History Main / AndroidsArePeopleToo

22nd Sep '17 8:33:24 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' uses this trope sometimes, though not always. In the far future, androids are more or less equal to humans. [[RobotDog K-9]] is the Doctor's beloved RobotBuddy. And in the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks Victory of the Daleks]]," [[spoiler:an English army scientist discovers, to his horror, that he's actually an android created by the Daleks, but he still helps save the day and demonstrates his personhood. When he decides to destroy himself because he's Dalek technology, Amy and the Doctor talk him out of it and persuade him to live his life to the fullest.]]

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' uses this trope sometimes, though not always.from time to time. In the far future, androids are more or less equal to humans. [[RobotDog K-9]] is the Doctor's beloved RobotBuddy. RobotBuddy and a vital part of the team. And in the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks Victory of the Daleks]]," [[spoiler:an English army military scientist discovers, discovers to his horror, horror that he's actually an android created by the Daleks, but he still helps save the day and demonstrates his personhood. When he decides to destroy himself because he's Dalek technology, Amy and the Doctor talk him out of it and persuade him to live his life to the fullest.]]
22nd Sep '17 8:32:31 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' uses this trope sometimes, though not too often. In the far future, androids are more or less equal to humans. And in the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks Victory of the Daleks]]," [[spoiler:an English army scientist discovers, to his horror, that he's actually an android created by the Daleks, but he still helps save the day and demonstrates his personhood. When he decides to destroy himself because he's Dalek technology, Amy and the Doctor talk him out of it and persuade him to live his life to the fullest.]]

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' uses this trope sometimes, though not too often.always. In the far future, androids are more or less equal to humans. [[RobotDog K-9]] is the Doctor's beloved RobotBuddy. And in the episode "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks Victory of the Daleks]]," [[spoiler:an English army scientist discovers, to his horror, that he's actually an android created by the Daleks, but he still helps save the day and demonstrates his personhood. When he decides to destroy himself because he's Dalek technology, Amy and the Doctor talk him out of it and persuade him to live his life to the fullest.]]
17th Jul '17 11:45:09 AM Fireblood
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** The regular androids aren't as self-aware as humans and aren't actually treated as "people". the [=DRNs=] are actually an ''earlier'' model that worked ''too well'': capable of near-genuine or genuine self-awareness, but this meant that they'd crack under the pressure just like a human put in the same circumstances (if a human police officer saw a little girl get shot dead, he'd have a mental breakdown too - the bureaucrats decided it was simply because the line was defective and "crazy" to begin with, so they shelved the whole line).

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** The regular androids aren't as self-aware as humans and aren't actually treated as "people". the The [=DRNs=] are actually an ''earlier'' model that worked ''too well'': capable of near-genuine or genuine self-awareness, but this meant that they'd crack under the pressure just like a human put in the same circumstances (if a human police officer saw a little girl get shot dead, he'd have a mental breakdown too - the bureaucrats decided it was simply because the line was defective and "crazy" to begin with, so they shelved the whole line).
13th Jun '17 7:02:16 AM Ea4g
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* DetroitBecomeHuman: Pretty much the main premise of every narrative in the game, as the Androids are just evolving sentience and the Humans still treat them like slaves. How it goes from there...well, that's up to you.
30th Apr '17 11:52:33 AM Tacitus
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** ...but by the time of the ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'' series, the carbons ({{Artificial Human}}s), are strictly controlled by the robots. At the same time, the last "pure" human is treated as a king, but since he died some time ago, and many ruins are now on minimal operational levels, the carbons are the dominant race, going underground from time to time to dig and steal...ehrrmmm...obtain treasures from the ruins.

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** ...but by the time of the ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'' series, the carbons ({{Artificial Human}}s), are strictly controlled by the robots. At the same time, the last "pure" human is treated as a king, but since he died some time ago, and many ruins are now on minimal operational levels, the carbons are the dominant race, going underground from time to time to dig and steal...ehrrmmm...obtain steal- ehrrmmm, ''obtain'' treasures from the ruins.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', a side quest involves tracking down a runaway android. The one looking for him seems to completely disregard the notion of this trope and [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential so can you, if you want.]]
* This is expanded upon in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''. The [[ReluctantMadScientist Institute]] created androids known as "Synths" to act as their eyes, ears, and hands, and consider them no more than tools. While the basic Synth is very clearly a robot with a gun, and it's an open question whether they have the faculties to actually qualify as people; advanced synths are [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot indistinguishable from humans]], and actually do have those qualifications. Because the Synths, even many of the advanced kind are used for the Institute's dirty work, including many seemingly random abductions and killings, the common people regard Synths with [[FantasticRacism open hatred and paranoia]], particularly about [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse who may and may not]] have been [[KillAndReplace replaced by a synth]]. This especially extends to the [[KnightTemplar Brotherhood of Steel]]. This has caused the existence of [[UndergroundRailroad the Railroad]], a faction who are sympathetic to the Synths, though not the Institute, and treats the Synths as people and saves, protects and helps runaway Synths live normal lives.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', a side quest "The Replicated Man" sidequest involves tracking down a runaway android. The one looking android who has created a new identity for him seems to completely disregard himself in Rivet City. You can side with a scientist from the notion of this trope Boston Commonwealth out to reclaim his "property," or tell the memory-wiped android the truth about his past and [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential so can you, if you want.]]
agree to keep his secret.
* This is expanded upon in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''. The 4}}'', set ten years later in the Commonwealth proper, elaborates on this situation.
** "Synths" were created by the
[[ReluctantMadScientist Institute]] created androids known as "Synths" to act as their eyes, ears, the ultimate workers based on the human form, and hands, and consider them no more than tools. While while the basic Synth is very clearly a robot with a gun, and it's an open question whether they have original line were mere {{Skelebot}}s, the faculties to actually qualify as people; advanced synths current generation are [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot [[ArtificialHuman indistinguishable from humans]], humans]] by any means short of a full dissection. The Institute considers Synths no different from any {{Zeerust}} robot in the setting, and actually do have those qualifications. Because the if any disobey their creators and try to escape, well, obviously their programming was faulty. As such, they've set up a Synth Retention Bureau dedicated to tracking down, retrieving, and resetting wayward Synths, even many of as well as monitoring the rest for any signs of rebellion.
** To most people in the Boston Commonwealth, the Institute is the bogeyman and the Synths are its minions, which either attack any place suspected of holding
advanced kind technology, or more frighteningly, KillAndReplace citizens and infiltrate settlements. The paranoia and FantasticRacism has reached the point that friends and family members are used for the Institute's dirty work, including many seemingly random abductions and killings, the common people regard Synths with [[FantasticRacism open hatred and paranoia]], particularly about [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse who may and may not]] have killing each other over suspicions that they've been [[KillAndReplace replaced by a synth]]. This especially extends to the [[KnightTemplar Brotherhood Synths, and lynch mobs have attacked people suspected of Steel]]. This has caused the existence of being Synths in disguise.
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[[UndergroundRailroad the The Railroad]], a faction who are on the other hand, is an underground network of sympathetic citizens dedicated to helping Synths escape from the Institute and start new lives for themselves, often with the help of cosmetic surgery and memory wipes. But the group has their own internal debate over how far they should go - everyone wants to help the human-looking Gen 3 Synths, though not but some like Glory (a Gen 3 herself) also want to liberate the more machine-like earlier models, and Deacon worries where to draw the line before they're trying to rescue Protectron units and sentry turrets.
** [[WellIntentionedExtremist The Brotherhood of Steel]] considers Synths to be abominations, another sign of science advancing beyond the bounds of reason, and an existential threat to mankind greater than that of the atom bomb. As such, they've vowed to destroy
the Institute, its Synths, and treats the Synths as people and saves, protects and helps runaway Synths live normal lives.anyone who harbors them.



** The fic [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/992078 Gift of Clay]] is written from from [[spoiler:Luna]]'s perspective, and elaborates on this.

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** The fic [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/992078 Gift "Gift of Clay]] Clay"]] is written from from [[spoiler:Luna]]'s perspective, and elaborates on this.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'', one possible way to prevent an AI rebellion in the late-game is to simply give sentient AI full citizenship rights. This will make them no more troublesome than any of your other citizens, though if your citizens are Spiritualist, they may not be too thrilled with the idea. Also, it isn't 100% foolproof: if the rebellion is sufficiently strong and advanced enough, even your loyal AI citizens will start plotting a rebellion (and avoiding the rebellion starting in ''your'' state is only assured if you get an event in the run-up that allows you to lock down AI rights as constitutionally assured, making it impossible to change your mind and place them in servitude or dismantle them. Already having full citizenship rights makes the event more likely, [[AIISACrapshoot but not assured]]).

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'', one possible way to prevent an AI rebellion in if you work up the late-game is tech tree and upgrade your simple Robot workers from Droids to simply give sentient AI full citizenship rights. This will make self-aware Synths, you can grant them no more troublesome than any of your other citizens, though if your citizens are Spiritualist, (or they may not be too thrilled with the idea. Also, it isn't 100% foolproof: if the rebellion is sufficiently strong and advanced enough, even your loyal AI citizens will start plotting a rebellion (and avoiding the rebellion starting in ''your'' state is only assured if you get an event in the run-up that allows you to lock down AI rights as constitutionally assured, making it impossible to change your mind and place them in servitude or dismantle them. Already having demand) full citizenship rights makes and sign an AI Accord. This might cause some grumbling from Spiritualist citizens, but the event Synths won't become any more likely, [[AIISACrapshoot but not assured]]).troublesome than the rest of your population, and if the late-game [[AIIsACrapshoot "AI Rebellion"]] crisis hits, your Synth citizens will remain loyal... or not, if the wider rebellion is strong and advanced enough. That's the problem with free will, after all.



* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', when Penny reveals herself as a robot, she laments that she isn't real. Ruby assures her, "You think just because you have nuts and bolts instead of squishy guts makes you any less real than me?"

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', when Penny reveals herself as a robot, after Penny's RoboticReveal, she laments that she isn't real. Ruby assures her, "You she's "not a real girl." Her friend's having none of it.
-->'''Ruby:''' You
think just because you have nuts and bolts instead of squishy guts makes you any less real than me?"me?\\
'''Penny:''' I don't... um... you're... taking this extraordinarily well.
* Implied in ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', in which the Councillor investigating Project Freelancer assures its Director that he'll be the namesake of [[ObviousRulePatch new laws]] governing the treatment of Artificial Intelligences, meant to prevent such abuses from happening again. The Director's defense is that the AI he was subjecting to psychological torture was based on his own mind, and [[LoopholeAbuse "while the law has many penalties for the atrocities we inflict on others, there are no punishments for the terrors that we inflict on ourselves."]]
26th Apr '17 8:22:15 PM ultimomant
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* ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983'': In "Origin of the Socereress", Man-at-Arms constructs a sentient robot horse named Stridor. When Stridor seemingly sacrifices himself saving the day, He-Man becomes extremely upset, and after defeating the villain, he carries Stridor all the way home to get him repaired. Later, when they learn all Stridor wants is to be free, they comment that any being who would desire that is alive, and grant his wish.
27th Mar '17 2:42:30 PM Ccook1956
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* WesternAnimation/{{Robotboy}} is an atypical robot; a prototype for a transforming weapon. Yet under the watchful eye of young Tommy Turnbull, Robotboy is curious about the human condition, even as he speaks in stilted robot-speak.
23rd Mar '17 12:30:16 AM Ccook1956
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* In ''TabletopGame/HcSvntDracones'' [[MegaCorp Applied Sciences and Robotics]] has treated Cogs as people since their first creation, the same can't be said for the other AIs they make though.


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* In ''TabletopGame/HcSvntDracones'' [[MegaCorp Applied Sciences and Robotics]] has treated Cogs as people since their first creation, the same can't be said for the other AIs they make though.
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* From ''Radio/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'', the Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation (who defined a robot as "Your plastic pal who's fun to be with") developed robots with Genuine People Personalities. Marvin the Paranoid Android was a prototype, for which he holds a massive grudge. The Encyclopaedia Galactica was first very basic about defining a robot, but an edition that fell through a time warp from a thousand years henceforth handwaves the Guide's dismissal of the Sirius Cybernetics Marketing Division ("A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the Revolution came").
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