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8th Jan '17 5:19:55 PM nombretomado
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* Exploration of this trope is pretty much the point of the Marvel characters TheVision and [[Creator/JackKirby Machine]] [[ComicBook/NextWave Man.]] Good guys treat them like people, while [[FantasticRacism bigots]] treat them like they're JustAMachine. In fairness, they are mistrusted for other reasons too: Vision was built by [[{{ComicBook/Ultron}} a villain]] to use as a [[MechaMooks minion,]] but he [[HeelFaceTurn revolted.]] Aaron Stack the Machine Man was the last of a line of experimental robots, all the others of whom went [[CrushKillDestroy homicidally insane;]] Aaron turned out okay because one scientist decided to [[MotherlyScientist raise him as a son.]]

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* Exploration of this trope is pretty much the point of the Marvel characters TheVision ComicBook/TheVision and [[Creator/JackKirby Machine]] [[ComicBook/NextWave Man.]] Good guys treat them like people, while [[FantasticRacism bigots]] treat them like they're JustAMachine. In fairness, they are mistrusted for other reasons too: Vision was built by [[{{ComicBook/Ultron}} a villain]] to use as a [[MechaMooks minion,]] but he [[HeelFaceTurn revolted.]] Aaron Stack the Machine Man was the last of a line of experimental robots, all the others of whom went [[CrushKillDestroy homicidally insane;]] Aaron turned out okay because one scientist decided to [[MotherlyScientist raise him as a son.]]
16th Dec '16 8:08:42 PM Doug86
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* The approach to this trope is one of the biggest differences between the comic and animated versions of ''TransformersGeneration1.'' In the animated series, it's immediately clear to all human eye witnesses that one faction of the alien robots is trying to defend them from the other faction, so the Autobots become well-respected allies almost right away. In the comic series (since Creator/MarvelComics would scarcely be Marvel Comics without FantasticRacism), the distinction between the two sides is much less clear to the humans, so all Transformers are treated with hostility. [[note]] The continual inability of the Autobots to communicate this fact to Earth's governments, and the inability of Earth's governments to recognize something that should have been fairly obvious, tended to make for a lot of [[IdiotBall Idiot Balls]] getting tossed back and forth. [[/note]]

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* The approach to this trope is one of the biggest differences between the comic and animated versions of ''TransformersGeneration1.'' ''Franchise/TransformersGeneration1''. In the animated series, it's immediately clear to all human eye witnesses that one faction of the alien robots is trying to defend them from the other faction, so the Autobots become well-respected allies almost right away. In the comic series (since Creator/MarvelComics would scarcely be Marvel Comics without FantasticRacism), the distinction between the two sides is much less clear to the humans, so all Transformers are treated with hostility. [[note]] The continual inability of the Autobots to communicate this fact to Earth's governments, and the inability of Earth's governments to recognize something that should have been fairly obvious, tended to make for a lot of [[IdiotBall Idiot Balls]] getting tossed back and forth. [[/note]]
26th Nov '16 8:13:19 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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As we all know, ClonesAreExpendable, ArtificialHumans are [[ScaleOfScientificSins abominations]] against nature, and [[RobotRollCall robots]] are a [[AIIsACrapshoot crapshoot]] and [[JustAMachine undeserving of a second thought]]. It seems as though artificial lifeforms just can't catch a break in the world of fiction, all because they're NotEvenHuman. After all, WhatMeasureIsANonHuman

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[[AsYouKnow As we all know, know]], ClonesAreExpendable, ArtificialHumans are [[ScaleOfScientificSins abominations]] against nature, and [[RobotRollCall robots]] are a [[AIIsACrapshoot crapshoot]] and [[JustAMachine undeserving of a second thought]]. It seems as though artificial lifeforms just can't catch a break in the world of fiction, all because they're NotEvenHuman. After all, WhatMeasureIsANonHuman


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* As ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' progresses through its seasons, the A.I. at the center of the plot, [[SinisterSurveillance The Machine]], is gradually humanized more and more; it is discussed as a purely abstract computer system in the pilot, and takes on more and more characterization to the point where in the GrandFinale, even though it's only in his imagination, its creator, Harold Finch, is envisioning The Machine [[AnthropomorphicPersonification personified as]] [[spoiler:its deceased MouthOfSauron, Root]]. Finch actually put measures in places to ''prevent'' The Machine from developing sentience, so that it would remain impartial (since its purpose was to act as a {{Big Brother|IsWatching}}), [[SpringtimeForHitler but this wound up forcing it to develop sentience to ensure its own survival instead]].
-->'''Arthur Claypool:''' Your child is a dancing star.\\
'''Finch:''' [[ThatThingIsNotMyChild It's not my child,]] ''[[JustAMachine it's a machine.]]''\\
'''Claypool:''' A {{false dichotomy}}; it's all electricity. Does it make you laugh? Does it make you weep?\\
'''Finch:''' ...''Yes''.\\
'''Claypool:''' What's more human?
26th Oct '16 5:06:24 PM ultimomant
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* In ''Fanfic/{{Marionettes}}'', the mane six debate this trope [[spoiler:about the [[TomatoInTheMirror fact the Trixie they just rescued from the]] [[MenInBlack Stallions in Black]] [[RoboticReveal is actually an android]]]] and are divided on the subject, but ultimately decide [[spoiler:that she's no different than anypony else who needs their help, and even if she isn't the Trixie they know, she still ''thinks'' she is]] after [[spoiler:a WhatTheHellHero from Fluttershy.]] Twilight Sparkle later says that by Equestrian law, constructs that display sapience are to be treated just like anypony else. [[spoiler:The Stallions' treatment of the Marionettes is seen as horrible, and ultimately one of the reasons the heroes resolve to destroy the organization.]]

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* In ''Fanfic/{{Marionettes}}'', the mane six debate this trope [[spoiler:about the [[TomatoInTheMirror fact the Trixie they just rescued from the]] [[MenInBlack [[TheMenInBlack Stallions in Black]] [[RoboticReveal is actually an android]]]] and are divided on the subject, but ultimately decide [[spoiler:that she's no different than anypony else who needs their help, and even if she isn't the Trixie they know, she still ''thinks'' she is]] after [[spoiler:a WhatTheHellHero from Fluttershy.]] Twilight Sparkle later says that by Equestrian law, constructs that display sapience are to be treated just like anypony else. [[spoiler:The Stallions' treatment of the Marionettes is seen as horrible, and ultimately one of the reasons the heroes resolve to destroy the organization.]]
5th Oct '16 1:44:27 AM Elfkaiser
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* Within the LLC faction of ''VideoGame/{{Battleborn}}'' in general, artificial intelligences known as "Magnuses" are accepted and recognized as equal members of society.
3rd Oct '16 7:14:19 PM Fireblood
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-->-- '''Capt. Jean-Luc Picard''', ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "[[Recap/StarTrekTNGS2E9TheMeasureOfAMan The Measure of a Man]]"

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-->-- '''Capt. Jean-Luc Picard''', ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "[[Recap/StarTrekTNGS2E9TheMeasureOfAMan "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E9TheMeasureOfAMan The Measure of a Man]]"
3rd Oct '16 7:13:40 PM Fireblood
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*** Data is unique and is treated as human by nearly everyone, but holograms are ubiquitous in the Federation and are treated as nonsentient, disposable toys, despite the existence of obvious exceptions like [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Vic Fontaine]] and the Doctor. This raises [[FridgeHorror uncomfortable questions]] that are never satisfactorily addressed.

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*** Data is unique and is treated as human by nearly everyone, but holograms are ubiquitous in the Federation and are treated as nonsentient, disposable toys, despite the existence of obvious exceptions like [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Vic Fontaine]] and the Doctor. This raises [[FridgeHorror uncomfortable questions]] that are never satisfactorily addressed. In some novels, it's stated the Doctor and other holograms are declared people by the Federation Supreme Court, free to leave service in Starfleet or elsewhere if they wish.
3rd Oct '16 7:11:18 PM Fireblood
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-->-- '''Capt. Jean-Luc Picard''', ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The Measure of a Man"

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-->-- '''Capt. Jean-Luc Picard''', ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', "The "[[Recap/StarTrekTNGS2E9TheMeasureOfAMan The Measure of a Man"
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* ''{{Series/Westworld}}'': This seems to be a theme of the series, as the androids are becoming self-aware and sentient. It's portrayed as wrong that people come to simulate killing, raping and torturing them for fun even when they aren't, indicating humans who do this possess violent impulses toward others they can get out legally this way.
1st Oct '16 7:29:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TotalRecall2070'': Detective Farve is an Alpha-Class android who is treated as human by his colleagues in the CPB, whereas Beta-Class androids are treated as machines since they lack true sapience. The question of exactly how human Farve is and who created him is one of the main mysteries of the show.
30th Sep '16 10:46:15 AM Appbeza
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* In ''Fanfic/MassEffectEndOfDays'', humans and Vision live in harmony. Vision govern the Alliance alongside the humans. They both are considered under the 'humanity' banner.
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