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9th Apr '18 10:11:59 PM SaintMnument
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* HeManWomanHater: Played straight with Athenian society, which was profoundly misogynistic (which is itself a Greek word). One of the very few famous Athenian women was Aspasia, the mistress of Pericles, Athens's most eminent statesman, and ''{{Creator/Socrates}}'' said that she taught him the art of rhetoric. Very little else about her is known for sure, because most of the men who said or wrote anything about her were repelled by the fact that she was both smart and opinionated.[[note]]Plenty of Athenian men noted that the aforementioned Aspasia was a great conversationalist, but none of them bothered to actually write down anything she said.[[/note]]

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* HeManWomanHater: Played straight with Athenian society, which was profoundly misogynistic (which is itself a Greek word). One of the very few famous Athenian women was Aspasia, the mistress of Pericles, Athens's most eminent statesman, and ''{{Creator/Socrates}}'' said that she taught him the art of rhetoric. Very little else about her is known for sure, because most of the men who said or wrote anything about her were repelled by the fact that she was both smart and opinionated.opinionated, to the point they can't bring themselves to write further about her.[[note]]Plenty of Athenian men noted that the aforementioned Aspasia was a great conversationalist, but none of them bothered to actually write down anything she said.[[/note]]


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* LoverandBeloved: Very much encouraged in the Ancient Greek society.
24th Jan '18 6:57:33 AM BeerBaron
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* The ''Wrath of Sparta'' expansion campaign to ''VideoGame/TotalWarRomeII'', which focuses on the Peloponnesian War.

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* ''VideoGame/TotalWar''
** Despite the title, ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'' is set in an era still very much dominated by Greek culture, and the Successor States of Alexander the Great constitute a large portion of playable factions.
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The ''Wrath of Sparta'' expansion campaign to ''VideoGame/TotalWarRomeII'', which focuses on the Peloponnesian War.
21st Nov '17 12:46:29 AM VutherA
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* HeManWomanHater: Played straight with Athenian society, which was profoundly misogynistic (which is itself a Greek word). One of the very few famous Athenian women was Aspasia, the mistress of Pericles, Athens's most eminent statesman. Very little about her is known for sure, because most of the men who said or wrote anything about her were repelled by the fact that she was both smart and opinionated.
** Averted, weirdly, with Spartan society, where (unlike in Athens) women were allowed to inherit property and taught to read and write. Spartan girls were also fed the same food as boys and, unlike Athenian girls who were typically married off at 12 or 13, Spartan girls weren't expected to take a husband until their late teens or early 20s, making them much healthier than their Athenian counterparts.[[note]]The practical reason was that Sparta needed to keep its birthrate up and not have women die in childbirth.[[/note]] Spartan girls exercised, just like Spartan boys. They had their own rites and rituals, and whereas Athenian women were dressed in heavy clothes and kept indoors, Spartan women wore light clothes and could walk around in public. They were also encouraged to develop the famous laconic wit. Plutarch published a collection of ''Sayings of Spartan Women''. There are next to no recorded sayings of Athenian women.[[note]]Plenty of Athenian men noted that the aforementioned Aspasia was a great conversationalist, but none of them bothered to actually write down anything she said.[[/note]]

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* HeManWomanHater: Played straight with Athenian society, which was profoundly misogynistic (which is itself a Greek word). One of the very few famous Athenian women was Aspasia, the mistress of Pericles, Athens's most eminent statesman. statesman, and ''{{Creator/Socrates}}'' said that she taught him the art of rhetoric. Very little else about her is known for sure, because most of the men who said or wrote anything about her were repelled by the fact that she was both smart and opinionated.
opinionated.[[note]]Plenty of Athenian men noted that the aforementioned Aspasia was a great conversationalist, but none of them bothered to actually write down anything she said.[[/note]]
** Averted, weirdly, with Spartan society, where (unlike in Athens) women were allowed to inherit property and taught to read and write. Spartan girls were also fed the same food as boys and, unlike Athenian girls who were typically married off at 12 or 13, Spartan girls weren't expected to take a husband until their late teens or early 20s, making them much healthier than their Athenian counterparts.[[note]]The practical reason was that Sparta needed to keep its birthrate up and not have women die in childbirth.[[/note]] Spartan girls exercised, just like Spartan boys. They had their own rites and rituals, and whereas Athenian women were dressed in heavy clothes and kept indoors, Spartan women wore light clothes and could walk around in public. They were also encouraged to develop the famous laconic wit. Plutarch published a collection of ''Sayings of Spartan Women''. There are next to no recorded sayings of Athenian women.[[note]]Plenty of Athenian men noted that the aforementioned Aspasia was a great conversationalist, but none of them bothered to actually write down anything she said.[[/note]]
21st Nov '17 12:38:09 AM VutherA
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live here too, and they're known for their [[TrainingFromHell brutal training methods]], stylish [[BulletTime slow-motion fighting techniques]] and for being manly enough to charge nearly naked into battle even when outnumbered 70 to 1. And they ''[[BlatantLies definitely]]'' [[HoYay aren't gay]]. Frequently [[AncientGrome confused]] with AncientRome by directors who just don't care.

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live here too, and they're known for their [[TrainingFromHell brutal training methods]], stylish [[BulletTime slow-motion fighting techniques]] and for [[Film/ThreeHundred being manly enough to charge nearly naked into battle even when outnumbered 70 to 1.1]]. And they ''[[BlatantLies definitely]]'' [[HoYay aren't gay]]. Frequently [[AncientGrome confused]] with AncientRome by directors who just don't care.



Ancient Greece has suffered more than usual cliche-making tendencies, because it was unfortuanately cast as the embodiment of Enlightenment in the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment contrast (with TheMiddleAges suffering the opposite fate as its {{foil}}).

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Ancient Greece has suffered more than usual cliche-making tendencies, because it was unfortuanately unfortunately cast as the embodiment of Enlightenment in the RomanticismVersusEnlightenment contrast (with TheMiddleAges suffering the opposite fate as its {{foil}}).
13th Nov '17 4:41:07 PM Conradus
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* MightyGlacier: Hoplites' phalanxes heavy armor and shields in tight formation with spears extended dominated their battlefields for years... until skirmisher tactics with ranged weapons made sure to stay away from the formation that necessarily had to move slowly to keep properly close together enforced a more combined-arms approach in warfare.

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* MightyGlacier: Hoplites' phalanxes heavy armor and shields in tight formation with spears extended dominated their battlefields for years... until skirmisher tactics with ranged weapons made sure to stay away from the formation that necessarily had to move slowly to keep properly close together enforced a more combined-arms approach in warfare. Rome's development of a faster, more flexible formation equipped with short swords that could get inside the spears' guard sealed the phalanx's fate.
7th Oct '17 8:12:11 AM Chabal2
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* ''VideoGame/ZeusMasterOfOlympus''
11th Sep '17 2:25:08 AM Carnel
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'' series when playing as Greece.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'' series when playing as Greece. This is most apparent in VI where Greece is uniquely [[DecompositeCharacter split]] between the Athenian and Spartan city states and Macedon, allowing a game to be played with nothing ''but'' Greeks.
28th Jun '17 6:33:29 PM Breakerchase
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* ''VideoGame/TitanQuest''
11th Jun '17 5:41:28 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Home of columned temples, chiton-wearing gods, slinkily dressed goddesses, amazons, and bearded philosophers. Also home to mythic thong-wearing[[note]]That's referring to thong sandals by the way, not [[BarelyThereSwimwear the ones]] [[HaveAGayOldTime you were probably thinking of]].[[/note]] heroes who ride winged horses and do great deeds (all without getting either chafed ''or'' sunburnt). The [[TheSpartanWay Spartans]]

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Home of columned temples, chiton-wearing gods, slinkily dressed goddesses, amazons, and bearded philosophers. Also home to mythic thong-wearing[[note]]That's [[SwordAndSandal thong-wearing]][[note]]That's referring to thong sandals by the way, not [[BarelyThereSwimwear the ones]] [[HaveAGayOldTime you were probably thinking of]].[[/note]] heroes who ride winged horses and do great deeds (all without getting either chafed ''or'' sunburnt). The [[TheSpartanWay Spartans]]
20th Apr '17 4:18:56 PM JulianLapostat
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-> ''"In short, I say that as a city we are the school of Hellas; while I doubt if the world can produce a man, who where he has only himself to depend upon, is equal to so many emergencies, and graced by so happy a versatility as the Athenian."''
-->-- '''Pericles''', ''[[Creator/{{Thucydides}} Funeral Oration]]''



The ancient Greeks were also great coloniser, founding cities across the Mediterranean from what is now Spain to the Black Sea. In fact after the 4th century BC the largest Greek-speaking cities were generally ''outside'' the territory of modern Greece, though only Alexandria in Egypt shows up much in popular fiction.

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The ancient Greeks were also great coloniser, colonisers, founding cities across the Mediterranean from what is now Spain to the Black Sea. In fact after the 4th century BC the largest Greek-speaking cities were generally ''outside'' the territory of modern Greece, though only Alexandria in Egypt shows up much in popular fiction. \n The classic Greek City State era ended with the conquests of UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat followed by UsefulNotes/MacedonianSuccessionWars, by which time Greek actually spread across the Balkans and across the Middle East, all the way to Bactria (Afghanistan) and India. The Mauryan Emperor Ashoka left behind pillars with inscriptions in Greece alongside Pali and other Indian languages, and Greek sculpture inspired Buddhist sculpture in India. Eventually these colonies became conquered by UsefulNotes/TheRomanRepublic where Hellenistic civilization nonetheless continued on unperturbed under the patronage of Romans who rather liked Greek culture. Indeed by the time the Western Roman Empire fell, TheRemnant of a truly Graeco-Roman culture became [[UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman Empire]].
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