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22nd Nov '16 7:59:59 PM Fireblood
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* Averted by the Ma-non in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'', who are a truly anarchist society, with no ruling body or centralized decision-making process whatsoever. They have just come to the collective realization that action which benefit the whole ultimately advance themselves too, and highly value equivalent exchange in their dealings. There are a handful of Ma-Non who exploit their own system to get ahead, but they're also aware that every race has a few bad eggs.

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* Averted by the Ma-non in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'', who are a truly anarchist society, with no ruling body or centralized decision-making process whatsoever. They have just come to the collective realization that action actions which benefit the whole ultimately advance themselves too, and highly value equivalent exchange in their dealings. There are a handful of Ma-Non who exploit their own system to get ahead, but they're also aware that every race has a few bad eggs.
21st Nov '16 6:24:35 PM DarkHunter
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* Averted by the Ma-Non in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'', who are a truly anarchist society, with no ruling body or centralized decision-making process whatsoever. They have just come to the collective realization that action which benefit the whole ultimately advance themselves too, and highly value equivalent exchange in their dealings. There are a handful of Ma-Non who exploit their own system to get ahead, but they're also aware that every race has a few bad eggs.

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* Averted by the Ma-Non Ma-non in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'', who are a truly anarchist society, with no ruling body or centralized decision-making process whatsoever. They have just come to the collective realization that action which benefit the whole ultimately advance themselves too, and highly value equivalent exchange in their dealings. There are a handful of Ma-Non who exploit their own system to get ahead, but they're also aware that every race has a few bad eggs.eggs.
-->'''Ma-non''': So, he asked us to "TakeMeToYourLeader", right? Which was kind of hard considering we don't really have a leader? Even those three you spoke to when you first met us, they aren't our representatives or anything? They just happened to be the ones outside the ship at the time, you know?
17th Nov '16 8:27:26 AM 06tele
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This trope can be used as an [[BombThrowingAnarchists anti-anarchism propaganda tool]] when played together with ChaosIsEvil. That's pretty much where it came from: those late 19th/early 20th century anarchists who ''did'' advocate and use violence generally did so because they didn't see any prospect of the existing system changing unless it was shaken out of its complacency. The mass media of the time had no interest in what the anarchists actually wanted (social change on a large scale), and were only interested in registering the outrage felt by much of civil society at the actions of the anarchists, and so anarchism went from being a political philosophy like any other, to a synonym for meaningless violence.

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This trope can be used as an [[BombThrowingAnarchists anti-anarchism propaganda tool]] when played together with ChaosIsEvil. That's pretty much where it came from: those late 19th/early 20th century anarchists who ''did'' advocate and use violence generally did so because they didn't see any prospect of the existing system changing unless it was shaken out of its complacency. The mass media of the time had no interest in what the anarchists actually wanted (social change on a large scale), and were only interested in registering the outrage felt by much of civil society at the actions of the anarchists, and so anarchists. And so, anarchism went from being a political philosophy like any other, other to a synonym for meaningless violence.
violence, because the people who associated anarchy with chaos were unable to understand why the anarchists were doing what they were doing.[[note]]If you're unable to understand why the anarchists were doing what they were doing, we recommend you do some reading in late 19th century and early 20th century labour history, so that you can find out just how god-awful working conditions were for most people.[[/note]]
17th Nov '16 8:23:00 AM 06tele
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This trope can be used as an [[BombThrowingAnarchists anti-anarchism propaganda tool]] when played together with ChaosIsEvil.

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This trope can be used as an [[BombThrowingAnarchists anti-anarchism propaganda tool]] when played together with ChaosIsEvil.
ChaosIsEvil. That's pretty much where it came from: those late 19th/early 20th century anarchists who ''did'' advocate and use violence generally did so because they didn't see any prospect of the existing system changing unless it was shaken out of its complacency. The mass media of the time had no interest in what the anarchists actually wanted (social change on a large scale), and were only interested in registering the outrage felt by much of civil society at the actions of the anarchists, and so anarchism went from being a political philosophy like any other, to a synonym for meaningless violence.



In RealLife, this trope is usually averted. Some proponents of anarchy are actually quite high on the "idealistic" side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism; [[WideEyedIdealist they genuinely believe that humans are good, and so a society with no form of higher authority or official rules will become utopia, as all people will be able to communicate with and understand each other as individuals and will choose to be good]]. Most other anarchists are more cynical, and believe that anarchy is desirable ''because'' HumansAreFlawed - giving them power, these anarchists contend, simply makes matters ''more'' chaotic, and will inevitably lead to power abuse. This was the position of Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (the first person to declare himself an anarchist, incidentally), who penned the phrase "[[InvertedTrope Anarchy Is Order]]." This is, by the way, the meaning of the circle A symbol you may have seen graffiti'd here and there (it's actually an "A" inside an "O"). More information can be found in our UsefulNotes on [[UsefulNotes/{{Anarchism}} anarchism]].

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In RealLife, this trope is usually averted. Some Many proponents of anarchy are actually quite high on the "idealistic" side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism; [[WideEyedIdealist they genuinely believe that humans are good, and so a society with no form of higher authority or official rules will become utopia, as all people will be able to communicate with and understand each other as individuals and will choose to be good]]. Most other anarchists are more cynical, and believe that anarchy is desirable ''because'' HumansAreFlawed - giving them power, these anarchists contend, simply makes matters ''more'' chaotic, and will inevitably lead to power abuse. This was the position of Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (the first person to declare himself an anarchist, incidentally), who penned the phrase "[[InvertedTrope Anarchy Is Order]]." This is, by the way, the meaning of the circle A symbol you may have seen graffiti'd here and there (it's actually an "A" inside an "O"). More information can be found in our UsefulNotes on [[UsefulNotes/{{Anarchism}} anarchism]].
17th Nov '16 8:13:34 AM 06tele
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In short, the anarchist who promotes anarchy while actually believing that this will result in [[HumansAreBastards the natural savage instincts of humanity]] leading to a society where [[MightMakesRight the weak are fodder for the strong]], and yet continues to do so because they believe that either ''[[OriginalPositionFallacy they]]'' [[OriginalPositionFallacy will be among the "strong",]] or else such a dire scenario is still ''better'' than the existent system, or that the sooner humanity goes extinct the better off it will be -- is pretty much a creation of media. Basically, a person who actually thinks anarchy will lead to chaos will probably not become an anarchist in the first place (unless that person is a MisanthropeSupreme).

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In short, the anarchist who promotes anarchy while actually believing that this will result in real-life anarchists tend to be about cooperation and mutual respect, and very much tend ''not'' to be about unleashing [[HumansAreBastards the natural savage instincts of humanity]] leading to a society where so that [[MightMakesRight the weak are will become fodder for the strong]], and yet continues to do so because they believe strong]] (supposedly in the belief that either ''[[OriginalPositionFallacy they]]'' [[OriginalPositionFallacy will be among the "strong",]] or else such a dire scenario is that that'd still be ''better'' than the existent existing system, or that the sooner humanity goes extinct the better off it will be -- is pretty much a creation of media. Basically, a be). A person who actually thinks anarchy will lead to chaos like that will probably not become an anarchist in the first place (unless that person is a MisanthropeSupreme).
31st Aug '16 7:44:18 PM Saber15
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* ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' features star systems with different government classifications, one of which is Anarchy. Anarchic systems tend to be the most infested with SpacePirates out of all of them. These systems can be very profitable to bounty hunters, as most ships will be wanted ''somewhere'', and the Kill Warrant Scanner is built precisely to detect where.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' features star systems with different government classifications, one of which is Anarchy. Anarchic systems tend to be the most infested with SpacePirates out of all of them. These systems can be very profitable to bounty hunters, as most ships will be wanted ''somewhere'', and the Kill Warrant Scanner is built precisely to detect where. ''Videogame/EliteDangerous'' makes it clear that 'Anarchist' factions are more like mobs, cartels, and pirates than actual anarchists.
7th Jul '16 2:22:06 PM Saber15
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* ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' features star systems with different government classifications, one of which is Anarchy. Anarchic systems tend to be the most infested with SpacePirates out of all of them.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Elite}}'' features star systems with different government classifications, one of which is Anarchy. Anarchic systems tend to be the most infested with SpacePirates out of all of them. These systems can be very profitable to bounty hunters, as most ships will be wanted ''somewhere'', and the Kill Warrant Scanner is built precisely to detect where.
3rd Jun '16 1:42:25 AM Kazmahu
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* Averted by the Ma-Non in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'', who are a truly anarchist society, with no ruling body or centralized decision-making process whatsoever. They have just come to the collective realization that action which benefit the whole ultimately advance themselves too, and highly value equivalent exchange in their dealings. There are a handful of Ma-Non who exploit their own system to get ahead, but they're also aware that every race has a few bad eggs.
11th May '16 4:10:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Zigzagged}} in ''No God No Master'', centering around the investigation of the 1919 Anarchist Bombings, which ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin as the name implies]]) were the work of Luigi Galleani and his anarchist followers. On the other hand, it makes very clear that other anarchists did not advocate these actions. In the end, it did nothing for the anarchists but get many thousands of them (violent or not) deported.

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* {{Zigzagged}} in ''No God No Master'', ''Film/NoGodNoMaster'', centering around the investigation of the 1919 Anarchist Bombings, which ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin as the name implies]]) were the work of Luigi Galleani and his anarchist followers. On the other hand, it makes very clear that other anarchists did not advocate these actions. In the end, it did nothing for the anarchists but get many thousands of them (violent or not) deported.
10th Apr '16 7:19:05 PM Fireblood
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* Intentionally averted in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', where King Arthur comes across an anarcho-syndicalist commune of literal mud farmers. They are decidedly non-violent, particularly when compared to Arthur himself, but also extremely irritating, screaming [[PoliceBrutality "oppression"]] when Arthur grabs one of them in annoyance, yelling at him to shut up.

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* Intentionally averted in ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'', where King Arthur comes across an anarcho-syndicalist commune of literal mud farmers. They are decidedly non-violent, particularly when compared to Arthur himself, but also extremely irritating, screaming [[PoliceBrutality "oppression"]] "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"]] when Arthur grabs one of them in annoyance, yelling at him to shut up.



* As far back as the Book of Judges in Literature/TheBible, we have this quote: "There was no king in Israel those days. Everyone did as he pleased."

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* As far back as the Book of Judges in Literature/TheBible, we have this quote: "There was no king in "In those days Israel those days.had no king. Everyone did as he pleased."



* {{Averted}} in Creator/EricFrankRussell's short story "...And Then There Were None". In it, an anarchic-libertarian community of Gands (they derive the name from UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi) is pretty orderly, and also utterly pacifistic-they employ passive resistance when the Earth military tries to coerce them.

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* {{Averted}} in Creator/EricFrankRussell's short story "...And Then There Were None". In it, an anarchic-libertarian community of Gands (they derive the their name from UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi) is pretty orderly, and also utterly pacifistic-they employ passive resistance when the Earth military tries to coerce them.



* In ''Literature/ThePrideOfParahumans'' Vesta was intended as a peaceful anarchy after independence, but things broke down as the life support infrastructure began to fail and homicide rates skyrocketed until the Protectors' Guilds restored order. [[spoiler: Making it more like feudalism.]]

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* In ''Literature/ThePrideOfParahumans'' ''Literature/ThePrideOfParahumans'', Vesta was intended as a peaceful anarchy after independence, but things broke down as the life support infrastructure began to fail and homicide rates skyrocketed until the Protectors' Guilds restored order. [[spoiler: Making it more like feudalism.]]
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