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4th Jun '18 5:51:31 PM StarformDCX
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* Mother Gothel from ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' has curly black hair and her MyBelovedSmother and [[AbusiveParents emotionally abusive]] aspects have similarities to the JewishMother stereotype.
21st May '18 5:21:50 AM jormis29
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* The CorruptCorporateExecutive Melmotte in ''The Way We Live Now'' is a {{Fauxreigner}} who has likely altered his name to sound French. His wife is explicitly Jewish, and his name could be interpreted as a clever adaptation of the Jewish name Malamud, and there is a lot of prejudice by the author and characters which relies on the assumption that he is Jewish. David Suchet, who played him in the ''Masterpiece Theatre'' series, has Jewish ancestry. On the other hand, the author's notes during writing peg him at one point as an Irish-American originally named Malmedy. So, Melmotte's background basically depends on what Creator/AnthonyTrollope was thinking about at any given point while writing.

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* The CorruptCorporateExecutive Melmotte in ''The Way We Live Now'' is a {{Fauxreigner}} who has likely altered his name to sound French. His wife is explicitly Jewish, and his name could be interpreted as a clever adaptation of the Jewish name Malamud, and there is a lot of prejudice by the author and characters which relies on the assumption that he is Jewish. David Suchet, Creator/DavidSuchet who played him in the ''Masterpiece Theatre'' series, has Jewish ancestry. On the other hand, the author's notes during writing peg him at one point as an Irish-American originally named Malmedy. So, Melmotte's background basically depends on what Creator/AnthonyTrollope was thinking about at any given point while writing.
14th May '18 10:54:24 AM TheNerevarine
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* ''ComicBook/RequiemVampireKnight'': The vampire knight Lord Mortis mentions being an Holocaust survivor when he was alive and expresses an immense dislike towards NaziProtagonist Requiem. However, its never spelled out whether or not he is Jewish, since they were not the only group persecuted by the Nazis.
1st May '18 6:34:16 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* Bridgette Tenenbaum from ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' is presumably Jewish, as she has a Jewish name and was a prisoner at a Nazi prison camp.
** Ditto Sander Cohen.
*** Dr. Steinman has a rather Jewish sounding name. Andrew Ryan is [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed clearly based on]] Ayn Rand, who was Jewish (but atheist) in real life and also, like Ryan, a refugee from Communist Russia.
** The minor character Mariska Lutz refers to Big Daddies as "golems."
** WordOfGod [[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/04/09/faith-in-rapture-ken-levine-shares-thoughts-on-creating-authentic-diversity.aspx reveals that there are a lot of Jewish characters in BioShock.]]
* Hal "Otacon" Emmerich from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' is from a family [[AllThereInTheManual the Official Mission Handbook]] refers to as Jewish, has a German grandfather who had to flee the Nazis, and displays some knowledge of Yiddish in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4''. However, Otacon himself is certainly not practicing and he doesn't meet the matrilineal descent requirement. [[spoiler:There's nothing to suggest that his mother Strangelove was anything but Anglo-British.]]
** It's worth noting that the matrilineal descent rule isn't universal among different sects of Judaism, or even different congregations. Hal would be considered Jewish by most Reform and Reconstructionist congregations, and if he was a Karaite, Lemba, or Ethiopian Jew, he would be ''required'' to have a Jewish father and his mother would be irrelevant.

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* ''VideoGame/BioShock1'': WordOfGod states that there are lots of Jewish characters in the series, though little confirmation on who.
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Bridgette Tenenbaum from ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' is presumably Jewish, as she has a Jewish Jewish-sounding name and was a prisoner at a Nazi prison camp.
** Ditto Sander Cohen.
*** Dr. Steinman has
Cohen's name is specifically Jewish, and was also a rather Jewish sounding name. prisoner at a Nazi prison camp.
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Andrew Ryan is [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed clearly based on]] Ayn Rand, who was Jewish (but atheist) in real life and also, like Ryan, a refugee from Communist Russia.
** The minor character Mariska Lutz refers to Big Daddies as "golems."
** WordOfGod [[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/04/09/faith-in-rapture-ken-levine-shares-thoughts-on-creating-authentic-diversity.aspx reveals that there are a lot of Jewish characters in BioShock.]]
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* Hal "Otacon" Emmerich from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' is from a family [[AllThereInTheManual the Official Mission Handbook]] refers to as Jewish, has a German grandfather who had to flee the Nazis, and displays some knowledge of Yiddish in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4''. However, Otacon himself is certainly not practicing and he doesn't meet the matrilineal descent requirement. [[spoiler:There's nothing to suggest that his mother Strangelove was anything but Anglo-British.]]
** It's worth noting that the matrilineal descent rule isn't universal among different sects of Judaism, or even different congregations. Hal would be considered Jewish by most Reform and Reconstructionist congregations, and if he was a Karaite, Lemba, or Ethiopian Jew, he would be ''required'' to have a Jewish father and his mother would be irrelevant.
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* Though it's strictly WildMassGuessing, many fans speculate that the Medic from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' may be Jewish: he was alive in Germany at the time of WWII, but WordOfGod confirmed isn't a Nazi.
** A German [[JewishAndNerdy intellectual]] with Semitic features born in the 1920s or 30s with no Nazi affiliation? Three strikes, Doc.
** If you know from klezmer music, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHbP-kpxxY this might make you wonder a bit]].
* The Baron of Hollywood in ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines'' is named Isaac Abrams, and he both owns a jewelry store and is a major (albeit secret) player in the film industry.

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* Though it's strictly WildMassGuessing, many fans speculate that the ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'': The Medic from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' may be Jewish: he is [[JewishAndNerdy intellectual]], has vaguely Semitic features, and was alive in Germany at the time of WWII, WWII but WordOfGod confirmed isn't a Nazi.
** A German [[JewishAndNerdy intellectual]] with Semitic features born in the 1920s or 30s with no Nazi affiliation? Three strikes, Doc.
** If you know from klezmer music,
Nazi. The theme song of his bird Archimedes is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHbP-kpxxY this might make you wonder a bit]].
klezmer music]].
* ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines''
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The Baron of Hollywood in ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines'' is named Isaac Abrams, and he both owns a jewelry store and is a major (albeit secret) player in the film industry.
1st May '18 6:22:34 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** Inverted with Bev, who displays all the mannerisms of the stereotypical JewishMother, but is in fact Lutheran.
30th Apr '18 8:30:35 PM Fireblood
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* Aldo Raine in ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' is an interesting case. He's placed in charge of a unit of commandos who are all Jewish, but we never learn if he's Jewish himself. Nothing about his name or personality suggests that he's Jewish, and it's highly unlikely that a Jew would have such a thick Appalachian accent, but he does have a personal hatred for Nazis. According to WordOfGod, he spent years fighting TheKlan, who are also anti-Semites. He can also be seen as as Ambiguously Native American, as his enmity for the Klan (and the rope scar around his neck) could also suggest that he's part non-white. The Nazis do call him "the Apache" for his habit of scalping.
* Dr. King Schultz from ''Film/DjangoUnchained'' is a German immigrant in the mid-19th century, when the first Jews came to America from Germany. He clearly has a strong German identity due to his fascination with German folklore, but Jews were much more assimilated in Germany than any other European country (prior to Hitler, of course) and his concern and sympathy for Django suggests he's familiar with being part of a minority group.

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* Aldo Raine in ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' is an interesting case. He's placed in charge of a unit of commandos who are all Jewish, but we never learn if he's Jewish himself. Nothing about his name or personality suggests that he's Jewish, and it's highly unlikely that a Jew would have such a thick Appalachian accent, but he does have a personal hatred for Nazis. According to WordOfGod, he spent years fighting TheKlan, who are also anti-Semites. He can also claims to be seen as as Ambiguously Native American, as possibly part Apache, which might explain his enmity for the Klan (and the rope scar around his neck) could also suggest that he's part non-white.neck). The Nazis do call him "the Apache" for his habit of scalping.
* Dr. King Schultz from ''Film/DjangoUnchained'' is a German immigrant in the mid-19th century, when the first Jews came to America from Germany. He clearly has a strong German identity due to his fascination with German folklore, but Jews were much more assimilated in Germany than any other European country (prior to Hitler, of course) and his concern and sympathy for Django suggests he's familiar with being part of a minority group. It's possible he's a "'48er", one of the former German revolutionaries who emigrated after the 1848 revolution in the German states was crushed. They were known for anti-slavery views.
30th Apr '18 3:32:39 PM rjd1922
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A character who fits "Jewish" stereotypes, possibly played by an actor who is Jewish in real life, but who is never (or cryptically) actually stated to be a Jew on the show. In some cases, the show might present contradictory evidence on both sides. Often this is because it's difficult to establish a character as Jewish without depicting them as a walking stereotype, particularly when there's no omniscient narrator to simply [[InformedJudiasm say so]] or when they don't fit the stereotype.

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A character who fits "Jewish" stereotypes, possibly played by an actor who is Jewish in real life, but who is never (or cryptically) actually stated to be a Jew on the show. In some cases, the show might present contradictory evidence on both sides. Often this is because it's difficult to establish a character as Jewish without depicting them as a walking stereotype, particularly when there's no omniscient narrator to simply [[InformedJudiasm [[InformedJudaism say so]] or when they don't fit the stereotype.
30th Apr '18 3:32:29 PM rjd1922
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A character who fits "Jewish" stereotypes, possibly played by an actor who is Jewish in real life, but who is never (or cryptically) actually stated to be a Jew on the show. In some cases, the show might present contradictory evidence on both sides. Often this is because it's difficult to establish a character as Jewish without depicting them as a walking stereotype, particularly when there's no omniscient narrator to simply [[InformedAbility say so]] or when they don't fit the stereotype.

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A character who fits "Jewish" stereotypes, possibly played by an actor who is Jewish in real life, but who is never (or cryptically) actually stated to be a Jew on the show. In some cases, the show might present contradictory evidence on both sides. Often this is because it's difficult to establish a character as Jewish without depicting them as a walking stereotype, particularly when there's no omniscient narrator to simply [[InformedAbility [[InformedJudiasm say so]] or when they don't fit the stereotype.
30th Apr '18 3:32:04 PM rjd1922
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* It's shown in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' that Greg changed his surname from "De Mayo" to "Universe". "De Mayo" is a Sephardic Jewish surname. His son Steven also has curly black hair, though he seems to get his curls from his mother's side (with Rose having been a StarfishAlien in a humanoid form). Show creator Rebecca Sugar is half-Jewish and based the character of Steven on her own brother.

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* It's shown in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' that Greg changed his surname from "De Mayo" "[=DeMayo=]" to "Universe". "De Mayo" "[=DeMayo=]" is a Sephardic Jewish surname. His son Steven also has curly black dark hair, though he seems to get his curls from his mother's side (with Rose having been a StarfishAlien in a humanoid form). Show creator Rebecca Sugar is half-Jewish and based the character of Steven on her own brother.
30th Apr '18 3:30:33 PM rjd1922
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** The Pines family. Mabel uses the phrase "Mazel tov!" in one episode, Grunkle Stan acts like a typical [[AllJewsAreCheapskates cheapskate]], and their surname ([[WriteWhoYouKnow like the creator, Alex Hirsh's]]) is of Ashkenazic Jewish origin. After a bit of FanDumb about this during the holiday season, Hirsch [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/3b25ef523ae8d77f7df25993283b9c9c/tumblr_inline_nh0s0ltaTL1qm9usw.png stated]] that the Pines weren't confirmed to be Jewish or not, nor likely will be. "A Tale Of Two Stans" shows Stan's family has a [[http://36.media.tumblr.com/8c2c8d72557a7ee2f313264f7c572c65/tumblr_nrig1fXC6S1qjcd3co3_1280.png mezuzah]] on their door so it might not be ambiguous anymore. Despite Hirsch's statement that the Pines aren't canonically Jewish, Journal 3 mentions [[https://67.media.tumblr.com/16512e3d1ce6bb806df07fbb46b386e8/tumblr_oaxzl5mzIh1tqbpdto1_500.jpg Stan's Bar Mitvah]]. Later on, Alex Hirsch replied that [[https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/758547032554344448 Pines are ethnically Jewish, not religiously.]]

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** The Pines family. Mabel uses the phrase "Mazel tov!" in one episode, Grunkle Stan acts like a typical [[AllJewsAreCheapskates cheapskate]], and their surname ([[WriteWhoYouKnow like the creator, Alex Hirsh's]]) is of Ashkenazic Jewish origin. After a bit of FanDumb about this during the holiday season, Hirsch [[https://31.media.tumblr.com/3b25ef523ae8d77f7df25993283b9c9c/tumblr_inline_nh0s0ltaTL1qm9usw.png stated]] that the Pines weren't confirmed to be Jewish or not, nor likely will be. "A Tale Of of Two Stans" shows Stan's family has a [[http://36.media.tumblr.com/8c2c8d72557a7ee2f313264f7c572c65/tumblr_nrig1fXC6S1qjcd3co3_1280.png mezuzah]] on their door so it might not be ambiguous anymore. Despite Hirsch's statement that the Pines aren't canonically Jewish, Journal 3 mentions [[https://67.media.tumblr.com/16512e3d1ce6bb806df07fbb46b386e8/tumblr_oaxzl5mzIh1tqbpdto1_500.jpg Stan's Bar Mitvah]]. Later on, Alex Hirsch replied that [[https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/758547032554344448 Pines are ethnically Jewish, not religiously.]]
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