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20th May '17 3:26:51 PM maxwellsilver
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->''"They're extremely close in an ambiguous way! They're [[TropeNamer ambiguously gay]]!"''

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->''"They're extremely close in an ambiguous way! They're [[TropeNamer ambiguously gay]]!"''gay!"''
7th May '17 6:57:30 PM Golondrina
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Because of less restrictive rules of media and acceptance of homosexuality becoming more common, modern media (unless it's aimed at children) will be more likely to open the sexuality of their characters, making it a [[TropeBreaker Broken Trope]]. Don't expect this type of character to ever be the hero of a children's production, though you'll notice plenty of villains--and sometimes sidekicks--who wear their ambiguous sexuality on their sleeves.

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Because of less restrictive rules of media and acceptance of homosexuality despition of gay people becoming more common, modern media (unless it's aimed at children) will be more likely to open the sexuality of their characters, making it a [[TropeBreaker Broken Trope]]. Don't expect this type of character to ever be the hero of a children's production, though you'll notice plenty of villains--and sometimes sidekicks--who wear their ambiguous sexuality on their sleeves.



* Wrestling/{{Goldust}} from the WWE, even though his homosexual overtones are primarily mind games he plays with his opponents. One notable example is his feud with [[Wrestling/ScottHall Razor Ramon]], where in one match he rubbed Ramon's chest and freaked him out.

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* Wrestling/{{Goldust}} from the WWE, even though his homosexual gay overtones are primarily mind games he plays with his opponents. One notable example is his feud with [[Wrestling/ScottHall Razor Ramon]], where in one match he rubbed Ramon's chest and freaked him out.



* ''Radio/RoundTheHorne'' has Julian and Sandy: a couple of out-of-work actors, though they could [[DoubleEntendre turn their hand to anything]]. In one episode they were lawyers, leading to the glorious line "We've got a criminal practice that takes up most of our time." (At the time, homosexuality was still technically illegal in the UK.)

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* ''Radio/RoundTheHorne'' has Julian and Sandy: a couple of out-of-work actors, though they could [[DoubleEntendre turn their hand to anything]]. In one episode they were lawyers, leading to the glorious line "We've got a criminal practice that takes up most of our time." (At the time, homosexuality bein gay was still technically illegal in the UK.)



*** It does seem to bother his father King Slately, who has passed over Trammennis for command. But after seeing Tramennis' skills Slately now comments that "So who cares [[VerbalBackspace if he's a]]–-If his Signamancy[[note]]innate magic by which your outer appearance matches your inner self[[/note]] is less...than manly." But this is the only time that homosexuality, or even the ''concept'' of sexual orientation is even described; most natives of Erf seem utterly oblivious of it.

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*** It does seem to bother his father King Slately, who has passed over Trammennis for command. But after seeing Tramennis' skills Slately now comments that "So who cares [[VerbalBackspace if he's a]]–-If his Signamancy[[note]]innate magic by which your outer appearance matches your inner self[[/note]] is less...than manly." But this is the only time that homosexuality, being gay, or even the ''concept'' of sexual orientation is even described; most natives of Erf seem utterly oblivious of it.
28th Mar '17 5:07:21 PM Golondrina
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14th Mar '17 5:11:10 PM Golondrina
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* Early in ''Fanfic/WithThisRing'', whether or not the SI was attracted to Superboy, or just over-protective, was a point of debate.



* Andro in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' falls under this trope. Although he has the gorgeous Gynora trailing after him all the time, he pays little attention to her; and when Paul describes his behavior during their one and only training session, it sure sounds like he might have some interest in Paul. However, either Paul doesn't think so or he's consciously rejecting the possibility, since he never mentions being made uncomfortable by the guy—not for ''those'' reasons, anyway.
* ''Fanfic/AMinorMiscalculation'' portrays [[Anime/KillLaKill Ryuko]] as this. She reacts mainly with disgust and derision toward the opposite sex, occasionally jokes about sexually dominating Satsuki ([[spoiler: whom she is unaware is [[BrotherSisterIncest her biological sister]]]]), and is so close with Mako that both Senketsu and ''her father'' automatically assume they are in a TransparentCloset. However, [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday she vehemently denies any of this every time someone even pokes at it]], and her inner thoughts shed little light on the matter.



* ''Fanfic/AMinorMiscalculation'' portrays [[Anime/KillLaKill Ryuko]] as this. She reacts mainly with disgust and derision toward the opposite sex, occasionally jokes about sexually dominating Satsuki ([[spoiler: whom she is unaware is [[BrotherSisterIncest her biological sister]]]]), and is so close with Mako that both Senketsu and ''her father'' automatically assume they are in a TransparentCloset. However, [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday she vehemently denies any of this every time someone even pokes at it]], and her inner thoughts shed little light on the matter.
* Andro in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' falls under this trope. Although he has the gorgeous Gynora trailing after him all the time, he pays little attention to her; and when Paul describes his behavior during their one and only training session, it sure sounds like he might have some interest in Paul. However, either Paul doesn't think so or he's consciously rejecting the possibility, since he never mentions being made uncomfortable by the guy—not for ''those'' reasons, anyway.

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* ''Fanfic/AMinorMiscalculation'' portrays [[Anime/KillLaKill Ryuko]] as this. She reacts mainly with disgust and derision toward Early in ''Fanfic/WithThisRing'', whether or not the opposite sex, occasionally jokes about sexually dominating Satsuki ([[spoiler: whom she is unaware is [[BrotherSisterIncest her biological sister]]]]), and is so close with Mako that both Senketsu and ''her father'' automatically assume they are in SI was attracted to Superboy, or just over-protective, was a TransparentCloset. However, [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday she vehemently denies any point of this every time someone even pokes at it]], and her inner thoughts shed little light on the matter.
* Andro in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' falls under this trope. Although he has the gorgeous Gynora trailing after him all the time, he pays little attention to her; and when Paul describes his behavior during their one and only training session, it sure sounds like he might have some interest in Paul. However, either Paul doesn't think so or he's consciously rejecting the possibility, since he never mentions being made uncomfortable by the guy—not for ''those'' reasons, anyway.
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* The Wrestling/{{WWE}} tag team Billy & Chuck were ambiguously ManlyGay, from being spotted backstage oiling each other up and doing bizarre stretches, to their shiny red trunks and matching personalized headbands, to their boy-band entrance theme. This became less ambiguous when they planned a gay wedding, on television -- and then became outright subverted when they stopped said gay wedding to declare that the whole thing was a publicity stunt, and they weren't really gay, just HeterosexualLifePartners.

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* The Wrestling/{{WWE}} tag team Billy ''Billy & Chuck Chuck'' were ambiguously ManlyGay, from being spotted backstage oiling each other up and doing bizarre stretches, to their shiny red trunks and matching personalized headbands, to their boy-band entrance theme. This became less ambiguous when they planned a gay wedding, on television -- and then became outright subverted when they stopped said gay wedding to declare that the whole thing was a publicity stunt, and they weren't really gay, just HeterosexualLifePartners.



* Long before Billy & Chuck, WCW had Lenny and Lodi, who were very ambiguous about their "very close relationship" - until Executive Meddling from AOL TIme Warner killed the angle, ending it with the revelation that they were brothers.
* While The Brooklyn Brawler's onscreen persona has always been a tough guy, an {{Urban Legend|s}} amongst longtime wrestling fans is that Wrestling/SteveLombardi is gay, rumored to be in a relationship with [[TransparentCloset Pat Patterson]].

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* Long before Billy & Chuck, WCW had Lenny and Lodi, who were very ambiguous about their "very close relationship" - until Executive Meddling from AOL TIme Warner killed the angle, ending it with the revelation that they were brothers.
* While The ''The Brooklyn Brawler's Brawler's'' onscreen persona has always been a tough guy, an {{Urban Legend|s}} amongst longtime wrestling fans is that Wrestling/SteveLombardi is gay, rumored to be in a relationship with [[TransparentCloset Pat Patterson]].Patterson]].
* Long before Billy & Chuck, WCW had ''Lenny and Lodi'', who were very ambiguous about their "very close relationship" - until Executive Meddling from AOL Time Warner killed the angle, ending it with the revelation that they were brothers.



* Theatre/ShrekTheMusical is full of this trope, from the sassy Donkey, to the prissy Farquaad, to the entire pride-anthem vibe of "Freak Flag".
--> '''Pinocchio:''' I'm wood. I'm good. Get used to it!



* ''Theatre/ShrekTheMusical'' is full of this trope, from the sassy Donkey, to the prissy Farquaad, to the entire pride-anthem vibe of "Freak Flag".
--> '''Pinocchio:''' I'm wood. I'm good. Get used to it!



* ''Webcomic/FlutteringFeelings'' in this Korean webcomic we have Baek Soel-A, who despite dating many, many, ''many'' men states that the feelings she is developing for her female friend Kim No-Rae are something she has never felt before. That added with the fact that she has never really cared for any of the men she has been with implies she may have always been gay and never knew it given that Seol-A has maybe two female friends her whole life.



* Dirk Strider from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is openly gay. His pre-[[ResetButton Scratch]] counterpart is a lifelong bachelor that makes his money off of [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal phallic puppet porn]], but never expressed romantic or sexual interest in other people.



* ''Webcomic/TheScumthorpeFiles'': Davina, the [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] alien girl. She's outright stated that she would date Nikki, even referring to her as "strangely pleasing to look at". This would make you think she's a lesbian, but Davina's love of Trolling people sort of leaves it unsure. The fact that [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer damn near everyone thinks Nikki is hot]] doesn't help.



* ''Webcomic/TheScumthorpeFiles'': Davina, the [[DeadpanSnarker snarky]] alien girl. She's outright stated that she would date Nikki, even referring to her as "strangely pleasing to look at". This would make you think she's a lesbian, but Davina's love of Trolling people sort of leaves it unsure. The fact that [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer damn near everyone thinks Nikki is hot]] doesn't help.
* ''Webcomic/FlutteringFeelings'' in this Korean webcomic we have Baek Soel-A, who despite dating many, many, ''many'' men states that the feelings she is developing for her female friend Kim No-Rae are something she has never felt before. That added with the fact that she has never really cared for any of the men she has been with implies she may have always been gay and never knew it given that Seol-A has maybe two female friends her whole life.
* Dirk Strider from ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' is openly gay. His pre-[[ResetButton Scratch]] counterpart is a lifelong bachelor that makes his money off of [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal phallic puppet porn]], but never expressed romantic or sexual interest in other people.



* Barry 'The Blender' Henderson and Thomas 'The Tanker' Smythe of ''I Am Fighter'' both fit to some extent; Thomas frequently takes it to Squick levels.



* Nick and Beck of Theatre of Life fame. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgY_rNQj-EU They do it on purpose.]]



* Barry 'The Blender' Henderson and Thomas 'The Tanker' Smythe of ''I Am Fighter'' both fit to some extent; Thomas frequently takes it to Squick levels.



* The ''WebVideo/MajorLeaguePony'' version of Twilight is this so far. Though she denies being gay, she secretly has dirty thoughts about Rarity, which she denies to herself, hinting that she may be in denile.
* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'': There's been a ton of examples among the ''unconfirmed'' characters, but one that comes to mind is the fact that Rachel brought Judith to prom. And Judith was wearing a ''tuxedo''. Woof.



* Nick and Beck of ''Theatre of Life'' fame. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgY_rNQj-EU They do it on purpose.]]
* The ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' version of Shinning Amour, is so camp, his sister Twilight is convinced he's gay and becomes suspicious, after hearing that he is marrying a girl. When confronted on this, he ''scolds her'' her for thinking he's gay just because he's somewhat effeminate.. but confesses to having gay sex with at least one stallion while ranting. "We said no homo!" In the end, much bigger problems arise and the issue is left unresolved.
** Twilight herself is this, to a lesser extent. There are hints of her returning Celestia's feelings for her in the season one finale and in TheMovie, she seems confused at suddenly having the desire to want a boyfriend, and in the end of the movie, decides to celebrate by renting a prostitute.
* The writer of faith-based LGBT pride blog We are the Rainbow, Bess, has hinted at being a lesbian, but a recent blog post Lampshaded her ambiguous sexuality and choice not to reveal whether or not she is a lesbian.



* The writer of faith-based LGBT pride blog We are the Rainbow, Bess, has hinted at being a lesbian, but a recent blog post Lampshaded her ambiguous sexuality and choice not to reveal whether or not she is a lesbian.
* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'': There's been a ton of examples among the ''unconfirmed'' characters, but one that comes to mind is the fact that Rachel brought Judith to prom. And Judith was wearing a ''tuxedo''. Woof.
* The ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' version of Shinning Amour, is so camp, his sister Twilight is convinced he's gay and becomes suspicious, after hearing that he is marrying a girl. When confronted on this, he ''scolds her'' her for thinking he's gay just because he's somewhat effeminate.. but confesses to having gay sex with at least one stallion while ranting. "We said no homo!" In the end, much bigger problems arise and the issue is left unresolved.
** Twilight herself is this, to a lesser extent. There are hints of her returning Celestia's feelings for her in the season one finale and in TheMovie, she seems confused at suddenly having the desire to want a boyfriend, and in the end of the movie, decides to celebrate by renting a prostitute.
* The ''WebVideo/MajorLeaguePony'' version of Twilight is this so far. Though she denies being gay, she secretly has dirty thoughts about Rarity, which she denies to herself, hinting that she may be in denile.
11th Mar '17 12:24:40 PM Fangusu
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A character may have no apparent interest in the opposite sex. They may live in a single-bedroom apartment with one of their "roommates". [[SensitiveGuy A male character may lisp more than someone missing two front teeth, have a limp wrist and an interest in fashion and musicals. He may be unusually fastidious in dress and grooming. He may even profess a great knowledge of modern dance]]. Conversely, a female character may [[Tomboy have a deep voice and an aggressive manner, dress in "unfeminine" clothes and play rough sports]]. However, nobody will ever discuss the character's sexual orientation.

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A character may have no apparent interest in the opposite sex. They may live in a single-bedroom apartment with one of their "roommates". [[SensitiveGuy A male character may lisp more than someone missing two front teeth, have a limp wrist and an interest in fashion and musicals. He may be unusually fastidious in dress and grooming. He may even profess a great knowledge of modern dance]]. Conversely, a female character may [[Tomboy [[{{Tomboy}} have a deep voice and an aggressive manner, dress in "unfeminine" clothes and play rough sports]]. However, nobody will ever discuss the character's sexual orientation.
11th Mar '17 12:21:42 PM Fangusu
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A character may have no apparent interest in the opposite sex. They may live in a single-bedroom apartment with one of their "roommates". If the character is male, he may lisp more than someone missing two front teeth, have a limp wrist and an interest in fashion and musicals. He may be [[TheDandy unusually fastidious]] in dress and grooming. He may even profess a great knowledge of modern dance. Conversely, a female character may [[TheLadette have a deep voice and an aggressive manner, dress in "unfeminine" clothes and play rough sports]]. But nobody will ever [[AccidentalPun come out]] and discuss the character's sexuality.

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A character may have no apparent interest in the opposite sex. They may live in a single-bedroom apartment with one of their "roommates". If the [[SensitiveGuy A male character is male, he may lisp more than someone missing two front teeth, have a limp wrist and an interest in fashion and musicals. He may be [[TheDandy unusually fastidious]] fastidious in dress and grooming. He may even profess a great knowledge of modern dance. dance]]. Conversely, a female character may [[TheLadette [[Tomboy have a deep voice and an aggressive manner, dress in "unfeminine" clothes and play rough sports]]. But However, nobody will ever [[AccidentalPun come out]] and discuss the character's sexuality.
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10th Mar '17 11:01:52 AM avon
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In many old films, characters are often given descriptions that may be perceived as code words for gay. Such words include eccentric, queer, confirmed (or lifelong) bachelor, or other words that can just as easily mean their conventional definitions without subtext.
8th Jan '17 10:05:21 AM MiddleEighth
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*Andro in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World'' falls under this trope. Although he has the gorgeous Gynora trailing after him all the time, he pays little attention to her; and when Paul describes his behavior during their one and only training session, it sure sounds like he might have some interest in Paul. However, either Paul doesn't think so or he's consciously rejecting the possibility, since he never mentions being made uncomfortable by the guy—not for ''those'' reasons, anyway.
7th Nov '16 12:19:19 PM mkmlp
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* The ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' version of Shinning Amour, is so camp, his sister Twilight is convinced he's gay and becomes suspicious, after hearing that he is marrying a girl. When confronted on this, he ''scolds her'' her for thinking he's gay just because he's somewhat effeminate.. but confesses to having gay sex with at least one stallion while ranting. "We said no homo!" In the end, much bigger problems arise and the issue is left unresolved.
** Twilight herself is this, to a lesser extent. There are hints of her returning Celestia's feelings for her in the season one finale and in TheMovie, she seems confused at suddenly having the desire to want a boyfriend, and in the end of the movie, decides to celebrate by renting a prostitute.
* The ''WebVideo/MajorLeaguePony'' version of Twilight is this so far. Though she denies being gay, she secretly has dirty thoughts about Rarity, which she denies to herself, hinting that she may be in denile.
6th Sep '16 6:25:31 PM MitchellProductions
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* [[{{WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic}} The Nostalgia Critic]]'s review of {{Film/Batman And Robin}} uses the jingle from [[{{Series/SaturdayNightLive}} The Ambiguously Gay Duo]] to lampshade this trope.
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