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1st Mar '17 9:36:00 AM monkeypizzasonic
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** Zen'o is this as well, something that Goku is warned about but ignores which leads into the Universal Destruction Tournament Arc.
14th Feb '17 1:55:08 AM Troperinik
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* Stumpy from ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}''. He relishes in destruction, does horrible things to his friends, has [[BigBadWannabe tried to be a villain]]... it's not quite clear whether he is an innocent child or not.
2nd Jan '17 1:10:10 PM PhantomRider
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* In J.M. Barrie's ''Literature/PeterPan'', the defining traits of children and fairies (and Peter Pan ''especially'') is that they are innocent ''and heartless''. Peter himself is an especially poignant case: being stuck in childhood means that he cannot learn from his experiences--or even remember them. At the ending of the traditional stage play, [[spoiler:when Wendy is starting to outgrow Neverland, she mentions that Tinkerbell is dead of old age (fairies don't live very long) and Peter asks, "Who's that?"]] Peter displays much [[AngstWhatAngst merriment and delight at killing pirates and Indians]], and it's also mentioned that when there are too many Lost Boys, or they started growing up, Peter "thinned them out".

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* In J.M. Barrie's ''Literature/PeterPan'', the defining traits of children and fairies (and Peter Pan ''especially'') is that they are innocent ''and heartless''. Peter himself is an especially poignant case: being stuck in childhood means that he cannot learn from his experiences--or even remember them. At the ending of the traditional stage play, [[spoiler:when Wendy is starting to outgrow Neverland, she mentions that Tinkerbell is dead of old age (fairies don't live very long) and Peter asks, "Who's that?"]] Peter displays much [[AngstWhatAngst merriment and delight at killing pirates and Indians]], and it's also mentioned that when there are too many Lost Boys, or they started growing up, Peter "thinned them out". He's also been known to change sides if a fight is too easy to be fun.
11th Dec '16 2:48:55 PM pinkdalek
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*** Davros's InsaneTrollLogic justification for his actions in "Genesis of the Daleks" is based around the idea that since the Daleks's only goal is to survive, their mass genocide is "the power not of evil, but of good". [[RuleOfSymbolism He considers himself a god for having created them, but refuses to give them knowledge of good and evil in order to keep them morally pure.]]
29th Oct '16 10:44:12 PM JapaneseTeeth
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* ''Manga/DailyLifeWithMonsterGirl'' is very vague on exactly how socially conscious and mature [[SlimeGirl Suu]] is, especially in regards to when she sexually assaults the other girls. On one hand, she's shown to learn from them mainly by imitation, is ignorant of many aspects of society, and her biology is so different from everyone else's that it's arguable whether she understands what sex even ''is''. On the other hand, it's also implied that [[ObfuscatingStupidity she's much smarter than she lets on]] and at least ''partially'' understands the situation. The fact that her mental state is heavily dependent on the materials she's absorbed makes it even harder to tell exactly how innocent she is.
17th Jul '16 5:29:39 AM Adept
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* The villain in the LordPeterWimsey novel ''Whose Body?'' is a sociopath who kills for the fun of it, and has a dream of returning people to the pre-Garden of Eden state by freeing them from guilt (and implicitly making them more like himself). Note, that [[Creator/DorothyLSayers Sayers]] was also a Christian writer.

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* The villain in the LordPeterWimsey Literature/LordPeterWimsey novel ''Whose Body?'' is a sociopath who kills for the fun of it, and has a dream of returning people to the pre-Garden of Eden state by freeing them from guilt (and implicitly making them more like himself). Note, that [[Creator/DorothyLSayers Sayers]] was also a Christian writer.
17th Jun '16 6:12:58 PM WillBGood
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-->''I shook hands with him; it seemed silly not to, for I felt suddenly as though [[AmbiguousInnocence I were talking to a child]]. [[ButForMeItWasTuesday Then he went into the jewelry store to buy a pearl necklace--or perhaps only a pair of cuff buttons]]--rid of my provincial squeamishness forever.''

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-->''I shook hands with him; it seemed silly not to, for I felt suddenly as though [[AmbiguousInnocence I were talking to a child]].child. [[ButForMeItWasTuesday Then he went into the jewelry store to buy a pearl necklace--or perhaps only a pair of cuff buttons]]--rid of my provincial squeamishness forever.''
14th Jun '16 9:44:59 AM TVRulezAgain
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* One possible interpretation of the [[{{Deconstruction}} character]] of [[PrincessClassic Lily]] from ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' is this. [[BigBad Darkness]] goes out of his way to tell everyone how innocent she is, but in the first few minutes of the movie, we witness her lie and steal. Later, she takes to manipulating [[TimCurry Darkness]] with terrifying ease.

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* One possible interpretation of the [[{{Deconstruction}} character]] of [[PrincessClassic Lily]] from ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' is this. [[BigBad Darkness]] goes out of his way to tell everyone how innocent she is, but in the first few minutes of the movie, we witness her lie and steal. Later, she takes to manipulating [[TimCurry [[Creator/TimCurry Darkness]] with terrifying ease.
28th May '16 8:50:50 PM WanderingBrowser
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* Speaking of Hansel and Gretel, if anyone in ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' qualifies for this trope, it's them. Orphans who were taken from Romanian orphanages after Ceausescu's dictatorship was overthrown, they were forced to participate in child pornography and {{snuff film}}s, where they were they learned to kill in order to survive. Needless to say, this ''broke'' them mentally, leaving them so screwed up that they really don't understand that people aren't ''supposed'' to rape, kill and mutilate each others. Indeed, they think that killing people ''keeps the universe running'', and that the ''purpose'' of humanity is to butcher each other.
27th May '16 10:01:25 AM Dame-Amaryllis
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* ''Virgin Ripper'': Nagi, a kitten who became a humanoid ''shinigami'' after he died but has since been traumatized into amnesia, still has his soul-reaping claws (sword-blades on his hands à la [[Manga/OnePiece Capt. Kuro]]). He loves his "mama" and won't hesitate to "make squishy" anyone who hurts her, including a pair of [[Manga/BlackLagoon Hansel and Gretel]] {{expy}}s.

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* ''Virgin Ripper'': ''Manga/VirginRipper'': Nagi, a kitten who became a humanoid ''shinigami'' after he died but has since been traumatized into amnesia, still has his soul-reaping claws (sword-blades on his hands à la [[Manga/OnePiece Capt. Kuro]]). He loves his "mama" and won't hesitate to "make squishy" anyone who hurts her, including a pair of [[Manga/BlackLagoon Hansel and Gretel]] {{expy}}s.
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