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26th Jun '17 11:44:45 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' does this occasionally with Suzuya who was raised as a girl by his ghoul mom to the point of castration so he wouldn't grow up to be manly, and is androgynous enough that characters are confused as to which gender Suzuya is. In an omake Hanbee pictures Suzuya as wearing a wedding dress if they were to get married. ** A more confusing case is found with Mutsuki who wishes to be seen as a man (although the validity of that claim is brought to question when they do their CharacterTic that they do when they're under distress) and was born a female and so far as we know hasn't had a sex change operation. Also, Mutsuki thinks in chapter 13 "It's not that I think like a man but...I don't like the gaze of a male." While Mutsuki first refers to themselves with masculine pronouns and is revealed to use the men's restroom as well as wearing a binder with clips in chapter 3/4 all the way up to chapter 114 where it looks like they are still wearing one when they undress to do something intimate to Uta/Sasaki who they have mutilated and are sitting atop of while referring to themselves as being "almost embarrassingly female" due to their love for Sasaki/Kaneki. They also tell Saiko they are actually a girl in one chapter. Then there's how following chapter 114 when they meet Kaneki at re they are so deranged by Kaneki's refusal to return to the CCG to be with them they disassociate and switch rapidly back in forth between female and male pronouns. And then other characters start to refer to them as Mutsuki rather than he/she and they refer to themselves with gender neutral pronouns when talking to Urie in chapter 126.

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does this occasionally with Suzuya who was raised as a girl by his ghoul mom to the point of castration so he wouldn't grow up to be manly, and is androgynous enough that characters are confused as to which gender Suzuya is. In an omake Hanbee pictures Suzuya as wearing a wedding dress if they were to get married.
** A more confusing case is found with Mutsuki who wishes to be seen as a man (although the validity of that claim is brought to question when they do their CharacterTic that they do when they're under distress) and was born a female and so far as we know hasn't had a sex change operation. Also, Mutsuki thinks in chapter 13 "It's not that I think like a man but...I don't like the gaze of a male." While Mutsuki first refers to themselves with masculine pronouns and is revealed to use the men's restroom as well as wearing a binder with clips in chapter 3/4 all the way up to chapter 114 where it looks like they are still wearing one when they undress to do something intimate to Uta/Sasaki who they have mutilated and are sitting atop of while referring to themselves as being "almost embarrassingly female" due to their love for Sasaki/Kaneki. They also tell Saiko they are actually a girl in one chapter. Then there's how following chapter 114 when they meet Kaneki at re they are so deranged by Kaneki's refusal to return to the CCG to be with them they disassociate and switch rapidly back in forth between female and male pronouns. And then other characters start to refer to them as Mutsuki rather than he/she and they refer to themselves with gender neutral pronouns when talking to Urie in chapter 126.



* The protagonists of the "queer buddy movie" ''By Hook Or By Crook'' both have ambiguous gender identity: {{Bifauxnen}}, [[{{Transsexual}} trans guys]], or somewhere in between?



* In ''The Android's Dream'', Sam Wentworth is never referred to in gendered language. This was apparently unintentional on the author's part at first; later in writing, he noticed and decided to run with it. {{Word of God}} is that he himself doesn't know Sam's gender, or whether Sam has one.

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* In ''The Android's Dream'', Sam Wentworth is never referred to in gendered language. This was apparently unintentional on the author's part at first; later in writing, he noticed and decided to run with it. {{Word of God}} is that he himself doesn't know Sam's gender, [[AmbiguousGenderIdentity or whether Sam has one.one]].
24th Jun '17 10:30:08 AM nombretomado
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* A ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' episode featured a '50s "educational" short called ''Film/MrBNatural'', which had a woman in the title role. While "Mr. B" was (despite the name) pretty unambiguously female, Joel and the 'Bots had a lot of fun riffing over the character's presumed androgyny, and devoted a whole host-segment sketch to the question of exactly what (s)he was supposed to be. TheOtherWiki mentions that photo captions in C.G. Conn's magazine refer to the character as "he", adding to the confusion.

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* A ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' episode featured a '50s "educational" short called ''Film/MrBNatural'', which had a woman in the title role. While "Mr. B" was (despite the name) pretty unambiguously female, Joel and the 'Bots had a lot of fun riffing over the character's presumed androgyny, and devoted a whole host-segment sketch to the question of exactly what (s)he was supposed to be. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions that photo captions in C.G. Conn's magazine refer to the character as "he", adding to the confusion.
20th Jun '17 9:33:31 AM WriterGirl2015
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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' does this occasionally with Suzuya who was raised as a girl by his ghoul mom to the point of castration so he wouldn't grow up to be manly, and is androgynous enough that characters are confused as to which gender Suzuya is. In an omake Hanbee pictures Suzuya as wearing a wedding dress if they were to get married. ** A more confusing case is found with Mutsuki who wishes to be seen as a man (although the validity of that claim is brought to question when they do their CharacterTic that they do when they're under distress) and was born a female and so far as we know hasn't had a sex change operation. Also, Mutsuki thinks in chapter 13 "It's not that I think like a man but...I don't like the gaze of a male." While Mutsuki first refers to themselves with masculine pronouns and is revealed to use the men's restroom as well as wearing a binder with clips in chapter 3/4 all the way up to chapter 114 where it looks like they are still wearing one when they undress to do something intimate to Uta/Sasaki who they have mutilated and are sitting atop of while referring to themselves as being "almost embarrassingly female" due to their love for Sasaki/Kaneki. They also tell Saiko they are actually a girl in one chapter. Then there's how following chapter 114 when they meet Kaneki at re they are so deranged by Kaneki's refusal to return to the CCG to be with them they disassociate and switch rapidly back in forth between female and male pronouns. And then other characters start to refer to them as Mutsuki rather than he/she and they refer to themselves with gender neutral pronouns when talking to Urie in chapter 126.
20th Jun '17 8:36:11 AM Piterpicher
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* Revan in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is never referred to in the game as male or female because [[spoiler:Revan is the player character, which can be male or female depending on the player's selection at the beginning]]. There is one line of dialogue, spoken by Juahni, that refers to Revan as female, but this was an error in the coding that missed an if/then note earlier in the game. Other characters, particularly Canderous, use male pronouns to refer to Revan [[note]] A bit of brilliance in retrospect; Canderous's native language of Mando'a rarely uses gender specifiers. As for Juhani? She was fully intended as Bioware's first GayOption and much of her female-oriented dialogue stayed in during the first release, making her appear bisexual until the later patch fixed it and she was indeed confirmed lesbian. [[/note]] -- which is canon, as confirmed by ''The New Essential Chronology''. [[note]] This was a controversial call at the time, and so the Exile was canonized as female to placate the fanbase. BioWare later hung a big, fat lampshade on the whole thing by having the Revanites in VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic state that Revan's gender isn't clear in the old texts.[[/note]]

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* Revan in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is never referred to in the game as male or female because [[spoiler:Revan is the player character, which can be male or female depending on the player's selection at the beginning]]. There is one line of dialogue, spoken by Juahni, that refers to Revan as female, but this was an error in the coding that missed an if/then note earlier in the game. Other characters, particularly Canderous, use male pronouns to refer to Revan [[note]] A bit of brilliance in retrospect; Canderous's native language of Mando'a rarely uses gender specifiers. As for Juhani? She was fully intended as Bioware's first GayOption and much of her female-oriented dialogue stayed in during the first release, making her appear bisexual until the later patch fixed it and she was indeed confirmed lesbian. [[/note]] -- which is canon, as confirmed by ''The New Essential Chronology''. [[note]] This was a controversial call at the time, and so the Exile was canonized as female to placate the fanbase. BioWare Creator/BioWare later hung a big, fat lampshade on the whole thing by having the Revanites in VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic state that Revan's gender isn't clear in the old texts.[[/note]]
11th Jun '17 6:31:43 PM Fireblood
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11th Jun '17 6:30:04 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/AftermathLifeDebt'': The pirate Eleodie Maracavanya is referred to as male, female and the gender neutral "zhe" or "zher". It's unclear whether zhe just has another gender identity, or this reflects zher species' biological sex, which is possibly wholly different from male or female.
8th Jun '17 7:20:48 PM tlc2014
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' the protagonist's gender is unknown, and is referred to as "they" to preserve ambiguity; the same is true of ghosts (who seem to be genderless by default), Monster Kid, the Riverman/Riverwoman and [[spoiler:the fallen human]]. This is likely intended to enable players of any gender to relate to the player's avatar.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' the protagonist's gender is unknown, and is referred to as "they" to preserve ambiguity; the same is true of the ghosts (who seem to be genderless by default), Monster Kid, the Riverman/Riverwoman Riverperson and [[spoiler:the fallen human]]. First Fallen Human.]] This is likely intended to enable players of any gender to relate to the player's avatar.
8th Jun '17 4:12:37 AM Arivne
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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation''
** Agent Diogenes has been exposed to so many magical artifacts that everyone has lost track of his/her gender, and Diogenes refuses to tell anyone. Diogenes is comfortable living looking and being androgynous, also the only Agent to regularly pass psychological evaluations. Despite this, Diogenes' psychologist is still romantically interested in Diogenes [[SingleTargetSexuality regardless of Diogenes' gender]], which is why Diogenes is called in for so many psychological evaluations. Unfortunately, he CannotSpitItOut and Diogenes is ObliviousToLove.
** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1575 SCP-1575 ("Venus Statue")]]. When a male animal drinks water from SCP-1575 and changes into a human being, the result usually has an androgynous appearance and its genitalia are either nonfunctional or completely missing.
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* ''Wiki/SCPFoundation''
** Agent Diogenes has been exposed to so many magical artifacts that everyone has lost track of his/her gender, and Diogenes refuses to tell anyone. Diogenes is comfortable living looking and being androgynous, also the only Agent to regularly pass psychological evaluations. Despite this, Diogenes' psychologist is still romantically interested in Diogenes [[SingleTargetSexuality regardless of Diogenes' gender]], which is why Diogenes is called in for so many psychological evaluations. Unfortunately, he CannotSpitItOut and Diogenes is ObliviousToLove.
** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1575 SCP-1575 ("Venus Statue")]]. When a male animal drinks water from SCP-1575 and changes into a human being, the result usually has an androgynous appearance and its genitalia are either nonfunctional or completely missing.
21st May '17 6:27:03 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{Worm}} fanfic ASkitteringHeart The villain Circus is embodies this trope. The identification of Circus as male or female shifts depending on the character observing and no one, not even Circus, is definite about their gender. This is [[spoiler:implied to be one of his/her super powers, to be able to switch gender or pick anything in between during their interlude]].

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* In the {{Worm}} Literature/{{Worm}} fanfic ASkitteringHeart The villain Circus is embodies this trope. The identification of Circus as male or female shifts depending on the character observing and no one, not even Circus, is definite about their gender. This is [[spoiler:implied to be one of his/her super powers, to be able to switch gender or pick anything in between during their interlude]].
20th May '17 4:33:53 PM Pichu-kun
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* Simba and Nala's cub at the end of ''Disney/TheLionKing''. The gender of the cub is never stated however [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics the way they look]] highly suggests that they're male (only male cubs in the series have whiskers and ear markings). A series of books released after the film came out had the cub as a male named "Kopa". The sequel film, ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', however has the cub as a female named "Kiara". The film also noticeably changed the cubs design to look female, suggesting a GenderFlip {{retcon}}. In production Kiara (then called "Shani") had a twin brother named "Chaka", which could have handwaved the issue, however he was scrapped in production.

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* Simba and Nala's cub at the end of ''Disney/TheLionKing''. The gender of the cub is never stated however [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics the way they look]] highly suggests that they're male (only male cubs in the series have whiskers and ear markings). A [[Literature/TheLionKingSixNewAdventures series of books books]] released after the film came out had the cub as a male named "Kopa". The sequel film, ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', however has the cub as a female named "Kiara". The film also noticeably changed the cubs design to look female, suggesting a GenderFlip {{retcon}}. In production Kiara (then called "Shani") had a twin brother named "Chaka", which could have handwaved the issue, however he was scrapped in production.
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