History Main / Ambadassador

21st Aug '16 10:34:05 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This essentially seems to be the function of the Imperial Overseers in ''{{Drowtales}}'', an [[LadyOfWar all female]] group of women who serve the Chelian Empress and visit clans on her behalf, as well as breaking out a can of whoopass when necessary.

to:

* This essentially seems to be the function of the Imperial Overseers in ''{{Drowtales}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', an [[LadyOfWar all female]] group of women who serve the Chelian Empress and visit clans on her behalf, as well as breaking out a can of whoopass when necessary.
14th Aug '16 7:47:54 PM PaulA
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Ghem-Colonel Benin is a contact of Miles' in Cetagandan Security, and he twice helps stop an interstellar crisis. At the end of ''Literature/{{ACivilCampaign'' he represents Cetaganda on Barrayar at the wedding of TheEmperor.

to:

** Ghem-Colonel Benin is a contact of Miles' in Cetagandan Security, and he twice helps stop an interstellar crisis. At the end of ''Literature/{{ACivilCampaign'' ''Literature/ACivilCampaign'' he represents Cetaganda on Barrayar at the wedding of TheEmperor.
14th Aug '16 7:47:23 PM PaulA
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga Miles Vorkosigan]] in several of the stories in the series, including ''Cetaganda'', and ''Diplomatic Immunity''.
** Ivan in a downplayed version in ''Cetaganda'', ''Brothers in Arms'', and the end of ''Captain Vorpatril's Alliance.'' At the end of the latter he is considering changing careers and going into diplomacy full time.
** Alys Vorpatril, though she seldom does much asskicking, is worthy of honorable mention for the sheer style with which she organizes diplomatic events at court, not to mention how she plays "baba" (matchmaker) for TheEmperor.
** Ghem-Colonel Benin is a contact of Miles' in Cetagandan Security, and he twice helps stop an interstellar crisis. At the end of ''A Civil Campaign'' he represents Cetaganda on Barrayar at the wedding of TheEmperor.
** In ''Memory'' Simon Illyan tells one old story of how negotiations were stalled until a foreign diplomat could be bribed. The bribe he wanted was not mundane sex, power, wealth, or revenge but an elephant, even though there was not a single elephant on Barrayar forcing them to scrounge it on a far away planet and transport it secretly. But if an elephant was what he wanted [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Imp Sec would get him an elephant]].
** Emperor Gregor himself played the Ambadassador in ''The Vor Game'', as did Aral.

to:

* [[Literature/VorkosiganSaga ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
**
Miles Vorkosigan]] Vorkosigan in several of the stories in the series, including ''Cetaganda'', ''Literature/{{Cetaganda}}'' and ''Diplomatic Immunity''.
** Ivan in a downplayed version in ''Cetaganda'', ''Brothers in Arms'', and the end of ''Captain Vorpatril's Alliance.'' At the end of the latter he is considering changing careers and going into diplomacy full time.
** Alys Vorpatril, though she seldom does much asskicking, is worthy of honorable mention for the sheer style with which she organizes diplomatic events at court, not to mention how she plays "baba" (matchmaker) for TheEmperor.
''Literature/DiplomaticImmunity''.
** Ghem-Colonel Benin is a contact of Miles' in Cetagandan Security, and he twice helps stop an interstellar crisis. At the end of ''A Civil Campaign'' ''Literature/{{ACivilCampaign'' he represents Cetaganda on Barrayar at the wedding of TheEmperor.
** In ''Memory'' Simon Illyan tells one old story of how negotiations were stalled until a foreign diplomat could be bribed. The bribe he wanted was not mundane sex, power, wealth, or revenge but an elephant, even though there was not a single elephant on Barrayar forcing them to scrounge it on a far away planet and transport it secretly. But if an elephant was what he wanted [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Imp Sec would get him an elephant]].
**
Emperor Gregor himself played the Ambadassador in ''The Vor Game'', ''Literature/TheVorGame'', as did Aral.
21st Jul '16 6:01:24 PM WaserWifle
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''VideoGame/TheBannerSaga'' : Ludin and Hakon are heirs to the kingdoms of men and varl respectively, and start the game on a diplomatic mission. Once the plot gets underway, both kick ass on the front lines as two of the many playable heroes. They lead their respective races in the caravan, including in to battle.
12th Jul '16 7:35:51 AM DoctorCooper
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Skips the "HiddenBadass" part by having Ambassador Varg be a 600-year-old, coal-black, heavily scarred, 8-foot-tall {{Wolfman}}. There is absolutely no doubt that this is one big {{Badass}}. Even by [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Canim]] standards.

to:

** Skips the "HiddenBadass" part by having Ambassador Varg be a 600-year-old, coal-black, heavily scarred, 8-foot-tall {{Wolfman}}. There is absolutely no doubt that this is one big {{Badass}}.badass. Even by [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Canim]] standards.



** [[TheHero Commander]] [[{{Badass}} Shepard]] is probably the best example, in practical terms. Especially the Paragon [[GoodIsNotNice path]], which involves a lot of patient, kind-hearted diplomacy. [[BerserkButton But push him/her too far]], [[GoodIsNotSoft and you'll ALL end up dead]], Mecha-Cthulhu or not.

to:

** [[TheHero Commander]] [[{{Badass}} Commander Shepard]] is probably the best example, in practical terms. Especially the Paragon [[GoodIsNotNice path]], which involves a lot of patient, kind-hearted diplomacy. [[BerserkButton But push him/her too far]], [[GoodIsNotSoft and you'll ALL end up dead]], Mecha-Cthulhu or not.
8th Jul '16 3:56:32 AM jormis29
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The unnamed main character of ''The Meteor, the Stone and a Long Glass of Sherbet''.

to:

* The unnamed main character of ''The Meteor, the Stone and a Long Glass of Sherbet''.''VideoGame/TheMeteorTheStoneAndALongGlassOfSherbet''.
4th Jun '16 3:26:01 PM Rebu
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* After helping to neutralize the Parliment Hill shooter, Sargeant-At-Arms and former RCMP Chief Superintendent Kevin Vickers was appointed the Canadian Ambassador to Canada in January 2015. In May 2016, he was at a ceremony honoring British soldiers killed in the Easter Rising when they were interrupted by a protestor. Vickers grabbed the protestor and dragged him away from the ceremony to hand him over to the police. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment While this proved controversial]] [[TheIrishQuestion for obvious]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/TheIrishRevolution historical reasons]], it should be noted that Vickers was a hair shy of 60 at the time, yet the protestor tried to get away when he saw the Ambassador bearing down on him.
2nd Jun '16 10:52:13 AM ChaoticNovelist
Is there an issue? Send a Message


They may be a HiddenBadass or someone that MinoredInAsskicking. A GuileHero outfoxes red tape is also possible. Contrast AssInAmbassador.

to:

They may be a HiddenBadass or someone that MinoredInAsskicking. A GuileHero who outfoxes red tape is also possible. Contrast AssInAmbassador.
24th May '16 12:25:31 PM ChaoticNovelist
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Basically, a character whose primary role is some sort of ambassador/diplomat, but when the [[PeaceConference peace talks]] fail whips out a can of [[BadAss badassery]]. May be a HiddenBadass. Contrast AssInAmbassador.

to:

Basically, a A character whose primary role is some sort of ambassador/diplomat, but when the [[PeaceConference peace talks]] fail whips out they advance their agenda with violence.

This is
a person skilled at AggressiveNegotiations and has experience with BloodOnTheDebateFloor. Any enemy leader or officer who thinks he can of [[BadAss badassery]]. May ShootTheMessenger will soon learn why this is a bad idea. In essence, this is a diplomat who does not need a diplomat's traditional immunity.

They may
be a HiddenBadass.HiddenBadass or someone that MinoredInAsskicking. A GuileHero outfoxes red tape is also possible. Contrast AssInAmbassador.



* An unnamed, Caucasian {{Ambadassador}} appears as a OneSceneWonder in the [[FrancoBelgianComics Franco-Belgian comic book]] ''ComicBook/BenoitBrisefer''. Benoit confronts the villainous Mrs. Daemonia, who tries to get away by taking the Ambassador hostage with a knife to his throat, but:

to:

* An unnamed, Caucasian {{Ambadassador}} Ambadassador appears as a OneSceneWonder in the [[FrancoBelgianComics Franco-Belgian comic book]] ''ComicBook/BenoitBrisefer''. Benoit confronts the villainous Mrs. Daemonia, who tries to get away by taking the Ambassador hostage with a knife to his throat, but:



** The Jedi are extremely adept warriors, but they are first and foremost diplomats and peacekeepers. Obi-Wan Kenobi in particular is arguably the most famous, being nicknamed 'The Negotiator' for his diplomatic skills and being a capable combatant himself.

to:

** The Jedi are extremely adept warriors, but they are first and foremost diplomats and peacekeepers. Obi-Wan Kenobi in particular is arguably one of the most famous, being nicknamed 'The Negotiator' for his diplomatic skills and being a capable combatant himself.



** Case in point: in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'', Vimes is given a diplomatic mission to {{Uberwald}}. He brings along Cheery Littlebottom (an [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses openly female dwarf]]) as well as Detritus (an [[FantasticRacism unlicensed troll]]) as his "[[RefugeInAudacity cultural attache]]", then introduces himself to a bunch of fundamentalist dwarves as a blackboard monitor. For reference, this is like bringing a transvestite and Mossad agent to Tehran and lighting a cigar with a flaming Koran (in fairness to Vimes, he wasn't ''aware'' of the negative connotations of being a blackboard monitor, which in any case the fundamentalist dwarves of that book don't quite agree with). In the same book Vimes solves a crime that could have plunged the region into war and kills several werewolves with his bare hands.

to:

** Case in point: in ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'', Vimes is given a diplomatic mission to {{Uberwald}}. He brings along Cheery Littlebottom (an [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses openly female dwarf]]) as well as Detritus (an [[FantasticRacism unlicensed troll]]) as his "[[RefugeInAudacity cultural attache]]", "cultural attache", then introduces himself to a bunch of fundamentalist dwarves as a blackboard monitor. For reference, this is like bringing a transvestite and Mossad agent to Tehran and lighting a cigar with a flaming Koran (in fairness to Vimes, he wasn't ''aware'' of the negative connotations of being a blackboard monitor, which in any case the fundamentalist dwarves of that book don't quite agree with). In the same book Vimes solves a crime that could have plunged the region into war and kills several werewolves with his bare hands.



* A prevalent theme in Creator/JamesHSchmitz's works is that [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking Authority]] = [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bastardry]] + Badassery.



* In Creator/DavidWeber's [[Literature/HonorHarrington ''Mission Of Honor'']], Honor gets to play peace ambassador to the Republic of Haven. Of course, she is also the single highest-ranking currently-serving officer in the RMN and the commander of the only fleet with the longest-possible-range [[MacrossMissileMassacre Manticoran Missile Massacre]] (read: unstoppable superweapon). Not to mention a eighth-dan in the hardest martial art in the galaxy. And an expert sword fighter. And gunfighter. And conducts the peace talks with said fleet hanging over the Havenite homeworld.
** Mind you, the Havenites are led by Eloise Pritchart, who before the war was a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized revolutionary]] against the Legislaturalists, and her right-hand-man is Admiral Thomas Theisman, who [[BoomHeadshot personally removed]] Haven's previous dictatorial regime from power. You don't stay on top in Havenite politics for very long unless you are very hard to kill.
*** At one point in the negotiations, Pritchart fantasizes about using Honor's badass abilities to eliminate a rather troublesome senator.
** Manticore likes to use former officers as diplomats. All the way back in ''The Honor of the Queen'', their ambassador to Grayson is a retired Marine, and the head of their treaty delegation, while technically wearing a business suit, is referred to by everyone -- on both sides -- as "Admiral".
** But not all of Manticore's Ambadassadors are military. Dame Estelle Matsuko, who appears in the first novel, ''On Basilisk Station'', and again in the ''Saganami Island'' Talbott Quadrant-centric sub-series, is a diminutive BadassBureaucrat who can scare the pants off ''Solarians''. In reflection of her badass, by the time she shows up in ''The Shadow of Saganami'', she's ''Lady'' Dame Estelle Matsuko, Baroness Medusa.

to:

* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'':
**
In Creator/DavidWeber's [[Literature/HonorHarrington Creator/DavidWeber's ''Mission Of Honor'']], Honor'', Honor gets to play peace ambassador to the Republic of Haven. Of course, she is also the single highest-ranking currently-serving officer in the RMN and the commander of the only fleet with the longest-possible-range [[MacrossMissileMassacre Manticoran Missile Massacre]] (read: unstoppable superweapon). Not to mention a eighth-dan in the hardest martial art in the galaxy. And an expert sword fighter. And gunfighter. And She conducts the peace talks with said fleet hanging over the Havenite homeworld.
** Mind you, the The Havenites are led by Eloise Pritchart, who before the war was a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized revolutionary]] against the Legislaturalists, and her right-hand-man is Admiral Thomas Theisman, who [[BoomHeadshot personally removed]] Haven's previous dictatorial regime from power. You don't stay on top in Havenite politics for very long unless you are very hard to kill.
***
kill. At one point in the negotiations, Pritchart fantasizes about using Honor's badass abilities to eliminate a rather troublesome senator.
** Manticore likes to use former officers as diplomats. All the way back in ''The Honor of the Queen'', their ambassador to Grayson is a retired Marine, and the head of their treaty delegation, while technically wearing a business suit, is referred to by everyone -- on both sides -- as "Admiral".
** But
"Admiral". However not all of Manticore's Ambadassadors are military. Dame Estelle Matsuko, who appears in the first novel, ''On Basilisk Station'', and again in the ''Saganami Island'' Talbott Quadrant-centric sub-series, is a diminutive BadassBureaucrat who can scare the pants off ''Solarians''. In reflection of her badass, by the time she shows up in ''The Shadow of Saganami'', she's ''Lady'' Dame Estelle Matsuko, Baroness Medusa.


Added DiffLines:

*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': Ponix Enaz is Dnnac Ledo's ambassador. His job is diplomacy but he can also kick ass if negotiations go south. The chapter where he suits up is named after Clausewitz's "War is politics by other means" quote.
8th Apr '16 3:01:31 PM margdean56
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Often TruthInTelevision, ambassadors are often retired military, making them [[RetiredBadAss Retired Badasses]]. And, sometimes, they're even chief diplomats. Right, former U.S. Secretary of State Collin Powell?

to:

* Often TruthInTelevision, ambassadors are often retired military, making them [[RetiredBadAss Retired Badasses]]. And, sometimes, they're even chief diplomats. Right, former U.S. Secretary of State Collin Colin Powell?



* It isn't much different today, except no U.S. President has commanded in battle personally since James Madison in the War of 1812. When the British reached the capital, he took command of a artillery battalion for a couple of hours. And let's not forget the number of former U.S. Presidents who were former officers in the military, many of general rank.

to:

* It isn't much different today, except no U.S. President has commanded in battle personally since James Madison in the War of 1812. When the British reached the capital, he took command of a an artillery battalion for a couple of hours. And let's not forget the number of former U.S. Presidents who were former officers in the military, many of general rank.
This list shows the last 10 events of 316. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.Ambadassador