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3rd May '16 8:26:03 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Lampshaded in ''LightNovel/KyoKaraMaoh!'' After it is revealed to the main character that he is [[MosesInTheBullrushes really a demon lord]] and must seek out his [[OnlyTheChosenMayWield ultimate weapon]]:

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* Lampshaded in ''LightNovel/KyoKaraMaoh!'' After it is revealed to the main character that he is [[MosesInTheBullrushes [[MosesInTheBulrushes really a demon lord]] and must seek out his [[OnlyTheChosenMayWield ultimate weapon]]:
30th Apr '16 9:01:19 AM RobTan
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** One story set before Elric turend on his people does show a couple of Melniboneans who weren't dyed-in-the-wool monsters, but even so weren't what we would call "good" either. Essentially, Melniboneans were a race of sociopaths, all literally born without a conscience. The "nice" ones weren't particularly moral, they just weren't interested in sadism and brutality, in much the same way that a person might be disinterested in music. Elric himself had a vague understanding of good and evil, but only on an intellectual level after years of study.
22nd Apr '16 3:02:04 AM Shadowgazer
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'''Note that the race can also be LawfulEvil or NeutralEvil. In fact, 99% of the time, it will be a race that simply is evil to the core, with some individual differences in their stances on OrderVersusChaos'''. The orcs in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' are a perfect example: they are arguably a LawfulEvil race overall, even if [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder individual members are not.]] Just because there's an army of LawfulGood humans, doesn't mean that the evil army that opposes them can't also be lawful.

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'''Note that the race can also be LawfulEvil or NeutralEvil. In fact, 99% of the time, it will be a race that simply is evil to the core, with some individual differences in their stances on OrderVersusChaos'''. The orcs in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' are a perfect example: they are arguably a LawfulEvil race overall, even if [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder individual members are not.]] Just because there's an army of LawfulGood humans, doesn't mean that the evil army that opposes them can't also be lawful.
lawful. It must be said that merely showing a evil, conquering army is not enough to prove this trope, so long as a doubt that everyone of the same nationality or race approves, remains. They are part of the same group after all, of course they would share the same beliefs. Nor does showing a few evil members of a species proves that this species qualifies. It must be beyond the shadow of a doubt, that this holds true for every single individual and in the well-done cases even justified. Also a variation playing with this trope, is of creatures having basically the same background, but some choosing evil and [[WasOnceAMan transforming into something different]].



In addition, many of the "evil" Humans of Middle-earth had legitimately suffered abuse by the Númenóreans in the late Second Age, who ruled over them as tyrants, taxed them heavily, often enslaved them and destroyed their livelihoods (e.g., by clear-cutting their forest homes), and abducted people for HumanSacrifice. Between that and Sauron's various propaganda and lies, they believed the folk of Gondor and Rohan to be evil and cruel.\\

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In addition, many of the "evil" Humans of Middle-earth had legitimately suffered abuse by the Númenóreans in the late Second Age, who ruled over them as tyrants, taxed them heavily, often enslaved them and destroyed their livelihoods (e.g., by clear-cutting their forest homes), and abducted people for HumanSacrifice. Between that and Sauron's various propaganda and lies, they believed the folk of Gondor and Rohan to be evil and cruel. In truth the folk of Gondor where actually the descendants of the Numenoreans who opposed all of this.\\



* Dementors from ''Literature/HarryPotter''. This is a race that cares for nothing except [[EmotionEater sucking up human happiness]]. The only way to get them on your side is to give them a bunch of human souls to suck on. Even if you can do that, they'll turn on you the second someone else shows up with a better deal. To make it even scarier, they're apparently capable of breeding ''and'' immortal. This is averted, however, with some races which are normally given this treatment. For example, goblins are TrueNeutral {{Loan Shark}}s, but they're not considered inherently evil.

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* Dementors from ''Literature/HarryPotter''. This is a race that cares for nothing except [[EmotionEater sucking up human happiness]]. The only way to get them on your side is to give them a bunch of human souls to suck on. Even if you can do that, they'll turn on you the second someone else shows up with a better deal. To make it even scarier, they're apparently capable of breeding ''and'' immortal. This is an unusually justified example because they are [[MadeOfEvil supernatural forms of negative emotions]] given sapience more or less. This is averted, however, with some races which are normally given this treatment. For example, goblins are TrueNeutral {{Loan Shark}}s, but they're not considered inherently evil.
21st Apr '16 10:13:27 PM Dee_Dee
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** ''TabletopGames/VampireTheRequiem'' has The Strix in its second edition. To an owl they hate the both vampires and the living simply because they live (or at least have a corporeal body). They delight in murder in chaos and are one of few things out there that [[{{NightmareFuel}} scares vampires.]]

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** ''TabletopGames/VampireTheRequiem'' has The Strix in its second edition. To an owl they hate the both vampires and the living simply because they live (or at least have a corporeal body). They delight in murder in chaos and are one of few things out there that [[{{NightmareFuel}} scares scare vampires.]]
21st Apr '16 10:10:02 PM Dee_Dee
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** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact always ChaoticNeutral, the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ToServeMan}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].

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** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact always ChaoticNeutral, [[{{ChaoticNeutral}} Always Chaotic Neutral]] , the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ToServeMan}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].
19th Apr '16 4:51:13 PM LinTaylor
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*** ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' subverts this with Universe 6, which exists parallel to Universe 7, home to the mainline ''Dragon Ball'' series. U6 Saiyans are described as a race of noble warriors who sometimes take jobs to defeat villains and hunt down criminals. Rather than being a case of ForWantOfANail, it's implied that this is just how Universe 6's Saiyans are; they still have their homeworld, Planet Sadla, which in Universe 7 was destroyed by internal conflict.
15th Apr '16 6:43:20 PM Dee_Dee
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** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[{{FallFromGrace}} was caught in the Weaver's Webs.]]

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** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[{{FallFromGrace}} [[{{FaceHeelTurn}} was caught in the Weaver's Webs.]]
15th Apr '16 6:33:50 PM Dee_Dee
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** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact always ChaoticNeutral, the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ImAHumanitarian}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].

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** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact always ChaoticNeutral, the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ImAHumanitarian}} [[{{ToServeMan}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].
15th Apr '16 6:04:09 PM Dee_Dee
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** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[Satan fell from grace]].

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** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[Satan fell [[{{FallFromGrace}} was caught in the Weaver's Webs.]]
*** Pretty much played straight with The Black Spiral Dancers. They were once Garou who decended into the Wyrm's very own home in an attempt to destroy it. They lost and were forced to "dance The Black Spiral." This had [[{{BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil}} severe]] [[{{GoMadFromTheRevelation}} consequences]] on their psyches. Any one who enters that monstrosity is doomed to a life of depravity and madness.
** [[{{OmnicidalManiac}} The Nephandi]]
from grace]].''TabletopGames/MageTheAscension'' are this after [[{{NightmareFuel}} haveing their souls ripped inside out.]] Once you become Nephandi there is no going back.



** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here.

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** The true Fae in ChangelingTheLost tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact always ChaoticNeutral, the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ImAHumanitarian}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].




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** ''TabletopGames/VampireTheRequiem'' has The Strix in its second edition. To an owl they hate the both vampires and the living simply because they live (or at least have a corporeal body). They delight in murder in chaos and are one of few things out there that [[{{NightmareFuel}} scares vampires.]]
14th Apr '16 11:42:57 PM Ghostninja109
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* Any Franchise/{{Digimon}} that's a Myotismon variant or has [[OurDemonsAreDifferent "devi"]] in their name is pretty much guaranteed to be a villain.
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