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17th Jun '18 1:54:57 AM Yukianesa
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*** That said, some of the Vampire Counts have enough redeeming qualities to avoid this. For example, Vlad von Carstein's quest to take over the Empire was driven by a (rather accurate) belief that it was too weak and beset by petty infighting to oppose Chaos and was reportedly rather fair as a ruler, and he deeply loved his wife Isabella and she loved him back - she even threw herself from the walls of Altdorf and committed suicide when she received news that he had been killed.
13th May '18 8:10:01 PM oforiousmic
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** Also subverted in the same story with Freeza's species. Frost is to be a kind person who helps people in need and is a hero in U6. [[spoiler: This is infact a DoubleSubversion, as Frost really is a genocidal monster like all the rest of them. Vegeta even says they shouldn't have expected anything else from Frieza's race.]]
* In ''Manga/D.Gray-man'' the akumas are specifically created by the earl to be this. They are actually supposed to be more weapons than characters. The level 1 and 3 play this completely straight but the level 2 have shown to be able to develop other interactions with humans though their killing urge will eventually come back. Level 4 are an exagerated examples as they are sadistic bastards whose only defining trait is killing humans. Oh..and they also kill their own allies.

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** Also subverted in the same story with Freeza's species. Frost is to be a kind person who helps people in need and is a hero in U6. [[spoiler: This is infact in fact a DoubleSubversion, as Frost really is a genocidal monster like all the rest of them. Vegeta even says they shouldn't have expected anything else from Frieza's race.]]
* In ''Manga/D.Gray-man'' ''Manga/DGrayMan'' the akumas are specifically created by the earl to be this. They are actually supposed to be more weapons than characters. The level 1 and 3 play this completely straight but the level 2 have shown to be able to develop other interactions with humans though their killing urge will eventually come back. Level 4 are an exagerated examples as they are sadistic bastards whose only defining trait is killing humans. Oh..and they also kill their own allies.
10th May '18 1:09:44 PM DesignatedNPC
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** [[OmnicidalManiac The Nephandi]] from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' are this after [[NightmareFuel having their souls ripped inside out.]] Once you become Nephandi there is no going back.

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** [[OmnicidalManiac The Nephandi]] from ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' are this after [[NightmareFuel willingly having their souls ripped inside out.]] Once you become Nephandi there is no going back.
8th May '18 10:36:23 AM CaptainMar-Vell92
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* ''[[Film/GodsNotDead]]'' and [[GodsNotDead2 it's sequel]] got a lot of criticism for depicting people who don't share Christian beliefs this way. Pretty much every Atheist character in the films is characterized as a smug, angry, selfish, obnoxious, mustache twirling and unhappy person who wants to destroy christians because he hates their faith.

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* ''[[Film/GodsNotDead]]'' ''Film/GodsNotDead'' and [[GodsNotDead2 it's sequel]] got a lot of criticism for depicting people who don't share Christian beliefs this way. Pretty much every Atheist character in the films is characterized as a smug, angry, selfish, obnoxious, mustache twirling and unhappy person who wants to destroy christians because he hates their faith.
8th May '18 10:35:37 AM CaptainMar-Vell92
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* ''[[Film/GodsNotDead]]'' and [[GodsNotDead2 it's sequel]] got a lot of criticism for depicting people who don't share Christian beliefs this way. Pretty much every Atheist character in the films is characterized as a smug, angry, selfish, obnoxious, mustache twirling and unhappy person who wants to destroy christians because he hates their faith.
30th Apr '18 6:42:44 AM DarkHunter
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** The Batarians are seen as this by humans since they're most known for being pirates and slavers with a strong hatred for humanity. However, it should be noted that the Batarian government heavily regulates space travel, and only allows the worst of the worst out of its boarders, so these guys do not represent the average Batarian.

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** The Batarians batarians are seen as this by humans since they're most known for being pirates and slavers with a strong hatred for humanity. However, it should be noted that the Batarian batarian government heavily regulates space travel, and only allows the worst of the worst out of its boarders, borders, so these guys do not represent the average Batarian.batarian. When the player does meet batarian civilians in the third game (who have fled their home territory ''en masse'' to escape the Reaper advance), they are no more good or evil than any other random person, and there are a few that have formed friendships with humans.
29th Apr '18 10:41:17 PM jormis29
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* R.A. Salvatore plays with this trope in his TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt books]]. [[TheLegionsOfHell Denizens of the Abyssal planes]] fit the trope; drow mostly stay true, with one very notable exception (and a small group of Chaotic Good drow that end up dead); orcs were monolithically portrayed as such until Obould showed up and started civilizin' the lot.

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* R.A. Salvatore Creator/RASalvatore plays with this trope in his TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt books]]. [[TheLegionsOfHell Denizens of the Abyssal planes]] fit the trope; drow mostly stay true, with one very notable exception (and a small group of Chaotic Good drow that end up dead); orcs were monolithically portrayed as such until Obould showed up and started civilizin' the lot.
28th Apr '18 4:30:41 PM Discar
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* The voidspren from ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' are literally [[MadeOfEvil made out of hatred]], and are apparently fragments of Odium, [[spoiler:[[WasOnceAMan a former human (albeit an evil one)]]]], who is [[GodOfEvil divine]] [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]] separated from the virtues that give it context.

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* The voidspren from ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' are literally [[MadeOfEvil made out of hatred]], and are apparently fragments of Odium, [[spoiler:[[WasOnceAMan a former human (albeit an evil one)]]]], who is [[GodOfEvil divine]] [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]] separated from the virtues that give it context. The Voidbringers themselves, on the other hand, are a subversion. The parsh are a species who chose to side with Odium thousands of years ago because [[spoiler:the humans (who the parsh had allowed to live on their planet as refugees after the humans destroyed their own world) were attacking the parsh]]. The modern Voidbringers are split between the unpowered parsh (referred to as singers), the Regals who are empowered by nonsentient voidspren, and the Fused, who are [[spoiler:the souls of the original parsh who were betrayed by humanity, and now possess the bodies of contemporary parsh (killing the host in the process)]]. The Fused are old, angry, and at varying levels of sanity, but have a good reason to fight. The Regals have their negative emotions boosted by their voidspren, twisting their minds into a state that Odium finds more useful. And the singers are just scared peasants, little different from the humans. It's made clear that the singers would have been willing to make peace despite their centuries of slavery (in fact, the [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Azish singers]] were successfully ''suing the government for back pay and damages''), but the Fused forced them to fight for Odium.
16th Apr '18 6:20:48 PM Discar
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* The vampires/aberrations from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' conveniently sidestep any UnfortunateImplications that could be associated with this trope. Every one of them is a former human who willingly chose to become a monster in a bid for eternal life. They have to kill humans to survive, which could potentially be tragic if not for the fact that every one of them chose this, and the process of becoming a vampire destroys all conscience, or capacity for empathy, meaning that even if someone did stupidly decide to become a vampire for good reasons (say to continue pursuing a dangerous enemy past the end of their natural lifetime), they would very quickly lose that good motivation. While the comic's attitude mostly favors mercy, killing a vampire, even in cold blood, is always portrayed as a positive act. Mercy is pointless, as they cannot be redeemed, and leaving them alive only gives them opportunity to kill again.

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* The vampires/aberrations from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' conveniently sidestep any UnfortunateImplications that could be associated with this trope. Every one of them is a former human who willingly chose to become a monster in a bid for eternal life. They have to kill humans to survive, which could potentially be tragic if not for the fact that every one of them chose this, and the process of becoming a vampire destroys all conscience, or capacity for empathy, meaning that even if someone did stupidly decide to become a vampire for good reasons (say to continue pursuing a dangerous enemy past the end of their natural lifetime), they would very quickly lose that good motivation. While the comic's attitude mostly favors mercy, killing a vampire, even in cold blood, is always portrayed as a positive act. Mercy is pointless, as they cannot be redeemed, curing them [[NoOntologicalInertia automatically kills them]], and leaving them alive only gives them opportunity to kill again.
16th Apr '18 6:19:36 PM Discar
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*** Explored in more detail with vampires; a storyline shows [[MagicAIsMagicA how]] and [[JustifiedTrope why]] they are always evil. When you become a vampire, you magically become Evil (presumably ChaoticEvil) by default. However, a certain vampire character who used to be Good seems to be able to control his bloodlust and remain a reasonable person who can cooperate with Good characters. [[spoiler: But that's an act on his part, and what really happens when you become a vampire is that you're taken over by an evil spirit formed from your worst moments, so you're not the same person at all. Besides, at least in this case, the spirit is beholden directly to an evil god.]]

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*** Explored in more detail with vampires; a storyline shows [[MagicAIsMagicA how]] and [[JustifiedTrope why]] they are always evil. When you become a vampire, you magically become Evil (presumably ChaoticEvil) by default. However, a certain vampire character who used to be Good seems to be able to control his bloodlust and remain a reasonable person who can cooperate with Good characters. [[spoiler: But that's an act on his part, and what really happens when you become a vampire is that you're taken over by an evil spirit formed from your worst moments, so you're not the same person at all. Besides, at least in this case, the spirit is beholden directly to an evil god.]]
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