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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', the titular giant humanoids devour humans for no apparent reason other than because they [[ForTheEvulz enjoy it]]. They are incapable of digesting food, seem to draw their energy from the sun, and ignore animals completely. In fact, when their stomach becomes full from devouring victims, they vomit to make room for ''more'' tasty human treats. The unique variants that do display [[ItCanThink intelligence]] are even more dangerous, actively seeking to KillAllHumans while showing no interest in eating anyone themselves. [[spoiler: Only it turns out to be far more complicated than that. The Titan Shifters are all morally complex individuals, most of them traumatized {{Tyke Bomb}}s struggling with the terrible duties they've been assigned. The regular Titans are similarly not what they seem, but are transformed humans trapped in a LotusEaterMachine with no control over their actions. [[MadScientist Hange]] theorizes that their instinct to devour humans is because eating a Titan Shifter allows them to regain their humanity via CannibalismSuperpower]].

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', the titular giant humanoids devour humans for no apparent reason other than because they [[ForTheEvulz enjoy it]]. They are incapable of digesting food, seem to draw their energy from the sun, and ignore animals completely. In fact, when their stomach becomes full from devouring victims, they vomit to make room for ''more'' tasty human treats. The unique variants that do display [[ItCanThink intelligence]] are even more dangerous, actively seeking to KillAllHumans while showing no interest in eating anyone themselves. [[spoiler: Only it turns out to be far more complicated than that. The Titan Shifters are all morally complex individuals, most of them traumatized {{Tyke Bomb}}s struggling with the terrible duties they've been assigned. The regular Titans are similarly not what they seem, but are transformed humans trapped in a LotusEaterMachine with no control over their actions. [[MadScientist Hange]] theorizes that their instinct to devour humans is because eating a Titan Shifter allows them to regain their humanity via CannibalismSuperpower]]. CannibalismSuperpower.]]



*** However, they seem already to have a (harmless) tends to scare people, annoy or playing pranks.

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*** However, they seem already to have a (harmless) tends tendency to scare people, annoy or playing pranks.



** [[spoiler: The Wedding Arc makes a point about how the Changelings are ''not'' inherently evil. The Interviewers even say that every race has its saints and sinners]].
* This trope is {{discussed}} as a significant plot point in the ''Fanfic/ProjectDarkJade'' fic ''Fanfic/{{Webwork}}'' regarding whatever Oni (which is something [[TranshumanTreachery Jade becomes]]) and other demons are evil by default:

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** [[spoiler: The Wedding Arc makes a point about how the Changelings are ''not'' inherently evil. The Interviewers even say that every race has its saints and sinners]].
sinners.]]
* This trope is {{discussed}} {{discussed|Trope}} as a significant plot point in the ''Fanfic/ProjectDarkJade'' fic ''Fanfic/{{Webwork}}'' regarding whatever Oni (which is something [[TranshumanTreachery Jade becomes]]) and other demons are evil by default:



** Zizagged with the Shroud. The Shroud individually are [[NonMaliciousMonster animals simply following their natural instincts]]; however, the [[HiveMind Shroud Primes]] that control them are all ruthlessly intelligent {{Omnicidal Maniac}}.

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** Zizagged with the Shroud. The Shroud individually are [[NonMaliciousMonster animals simply following their natural instincts]]; however, the [[HiveMind Shroud Primes]] that control them are all ruthlessly intelligent {{Omnicidal Maniac}}.OmnicidalManiac.



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheTaleOfDespereaux'', even the narrator states that rats are always greedy, dirty, unheroic, and terrified of the light, with the exception of Rascuro [[spoiler:who falls to the dark side for a while after he tries ''not'' to be Always Chaotic Evil.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheTaleOfDespereaux'', even the narrator states that rats are always greedy, dirty, unheroic, and terrified of the light, with the exception of Rascuro [[spoiler:who falls to the dark side for a while after he tries ''not'' to be Always Chaotic Evil.]]Evil]].



* All hyenas seen in ''Disney/TheLionKing'' are the hungry, antagonistic pawns of Scar. In ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' this trope was {{Retcon}}ned away when Kion meets a good hyena who insists that most hyenas are good. It just so happens every hyena seen so far besides her has been evil. There is also another good hyena in a non-canon book for the first film that is probably the inspiration for this character. Two of Janja's (main hyena antagonist for the show) lackeys are shown not to be so bad after all, as they readily and genuinely agreed to behave when in the Pride Lands after he kicked them out of the group, and true to their word they did no harm. They are pretty much the animal equivalent of PunchClockVillains, only doing wrong because he's their boss.

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* All hyenas seen in ''Disney/TheLionKing'' are the hungry, antagonistic pawns of Scar. In ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' this trope was {{Retcon}}ned away when Kion meets a good hyena who insists that most hyenas are good. It just so happens every hyena seen so far besides her has been evil. There is also another good hyena in a non-canon book for the first film that is probably the inspiration for this character. Two of Janja's (main hyena antagonist for the show) lackeys are shown not to be so bad after all, as they readily and genuinely agreed to behave when in the Pride Lands after he kicked them out of the group, and true to their word they did no harm. They are pretty much the animal equivalent of PunchClockVillains, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, only doing wrong because he's their boss.



* The aliens from ''Film/IndependenceDay'' are kind enough to use a PeoplePuppet to let humanity know straight-out that there can be no possible peace with them and that the only thing they want humanity to do is "die."

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* The aliens from ''Film/IndependenceDay'' are kind enough to use a PeoplePuppet {{People Puppet|s}} to let humanity know straight-out that there can be no possible peace with them and that the only thing they want humanity to do is "die."



* The Witches in the film ''Film/TheWitches'', based on the RoaldDahl [[Literature/TheWitches book of the same name]], are shown to be like that; evil, ugly, hateful and despise all the children with murderous rage (with only one exception).
* All cars became this in ''Film/MaximumOverdrive'' after a comet make them sentient.

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* The Witches in the film ''Film/TheWitches'', based on the RoaldDahl Creator/RoaldDahl [[Literature/TheWitches book of the same name]], are shown to be like that; evil, ugly, hateful and despise all the children with murderous rage (with only one exception).
* All cars became this in ''Film/MaximumOverdrive'' after a comet make makes them sentient.



** The Howlers were a fascinating [[SubvertedTrope subvertion]]. They were created by the GodOfEvil / EldritchAbomination Crayak, and had spent at least thousands of years wiping out countless species across the galaxy for no apparent reason. Cassie, however, refused to believe they were Always Chaotic Evil if they were truly sentient. When Jake eventually morphs one and gets to experience its natural instincts, he finds out [[spoiler:that their minds are closest to ''dolphins''.[[note]]This book was written [[ScienceMarchesOn before we gained a better understanding of what dolphins are really like.]][[/note]] They're childlike and playful, and [[InnocentAliens honestly don't know that other species have sentience]] until the Animorphs infect their HiveMind with their own memories]]. They have no concept of death or suffering, since any Howler who experiences pain or injury is destroyed before its personal memories can enter the HiveMind. They basically think they're living in a giant game.

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** The Howlers were a fascinating [[SubvertedTrope subvertion]].{{subver|tedTrope}}sion. They were created by the GodOfEvil / EldritchAbomination Crayak, and had spent at least thousands of years wiping out countless species across the galaxy for no apparent reason. Cassie, however, refused to believe they were Always Chaotic Evil if they were truly sentient. When Jake eventually morphs one and gets to experience its natural instincts, he finds out [[spoiler:that their minds are closest to ''dolphins''.[[note]]This book was written [[ScienceMarchesOn before we gained a better understanding of what dolphins are really like.]][[/note]] They're childlike and playful, and [[InnocentAliens honestly don't know that other species have sentience]] until the Animorphs infect their HiveMind with their own memories]]. They have no concept of death or suffering, since any Howler who experiences pain or injury is destroyed before its personal memories can enter the HiveMind. They basically think they're living in a giant game.



* The good witches of Creator/LFrankBaum's ''[[Literature/LandOfOz Oz]]'' books were a subversion of witches as Always Chaotic Evil.
** As well, in TheFilmOfTheBook ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', the Wicked Witch's guards are expected to be the {{mook|s}} version of this trope, but once Dorothy defeats the Witch, the guards thank her and praise her. This doesn't happen in the book, as it was explicitly stated that the Wicked Witch had enslaved the Winkies (the people of Western Oz).

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* The good witches of Creator/LFrankBaum's ''[[Literature/LandOfOz Oz]]'' books were a subversion of witches as Always Chaotic Evil.
** As well,
Evil. Also, in TheFilmOfTheBook ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'', the Wicked Witch's guards are expected to be the {{mook|s}} version of this trope, but once Dorothy defeats the Witch, the guards thank her and praise her. This doesn't happen in the book, as it was explicitly stated that the Wicked Witch had enslaved the Winkies (the people of Western Oz).



** The Pantathians are snake-people who are described and shown to be [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent alien and destructive in their very natures, with no chance of redemption]] (even a Pantathian that's hatched from its egg minutes earlier will attack any non-Pantathian on sight). But they're justified by [[spoiler:having been created by an evil mistress as minions.]]

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** The Pantathians are snake-people who are described and shown to be [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent alien and destructive in their very natures, with no chance of redemption]] (even a Pantathian that's hatched from its egg minutes earlier will attack any non-Pantathian on sight). But they're justified by [[spoiler:having been created by an evil mistress as minions.]]minions]].



** Veil in ''[[Literature/{{Redwall}} The Outcast of Redwall]]'' [[spoiler:[[HeelFaceTurn turns good]] at the end of the book. However, he [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies from it]].]] Bryony's theory is that he turned bad precisely because it was expected of him; he was always accused of theft when something went missing and generally treated like a bomb about to go off by the rest of the Abbeydwellers, so he started living up to their expectations out of spite.

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** Veil in ''[[Literature/{{Redwall}} The Outcast of Redwall]]'' [[spoiler:[[HeelFaceTurn turns good]] at the end of the book. However, he [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies from it]].]] it]]]]. Bryony's theory is that he turned bad precisely because it was expected of him; he was always accused of theft when something went missing and generally treated like a bomb about to go off by the rest of the Abbeydwellers, so he started living up to their expectations out of spite.



* The Posleen from Creator/JohnRingo's ''Literature/LegacyOfTheAldenata'' series at first seem to be this - they are a voracious HordeOfAlienLocusts that loot worlds and eat the inhabitants. However, it is later revealed that they are genetically engineered SuperSoldiers created by a long-gone alien race, and are merely following their programming. Individual Posleen even show some level of nobility when they are viewpoint characters. Michael O'Neal, Jr even comments that he does not hate the Posleen, but if he ever runs into their creators, he'll ''really'' hate them.

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* The Posleen from Creator/JohnRingo's ''Literature/LegacyOfTheAldenata'' series at first seem to be this - they are a voracious HordeOfAlienLocusts that loot worlds and eat the inhabitants. However, it is later revealed that they are genetically engineered SuperSoldiers {{Super Soldier}}s created by a long-gone alien race, and are merely following their programming. Individual Posleen even show some level of nobility when they are viewpoint characters. Michael O'Neal, Jr even comments that he does not hate the Posleen, but if he ever runs into their creators, he'll ''really'' hate them.



*** Possibly subverted in the animated [[WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing The Return of the King]], where some [[VillainSong orcs sing]] they don't want to go to war but their officers and Sauron [[PunchClockVillain tell them to]].

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*** Possibly subverted in the animated [[WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing The Return of the King]], ''WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing'', where some [[VillainSong orcs sing]] they don't want to go to war but their officers and Sauron [[PunchClockVillain tell them to]].



* Subverted with the {{Dark|IsEdgy}} Court of TheFairFolk in ''Literature/WickedLovely''. They often seem to be Always Chaotic Evil, but as we learn more about them, it is increasingly revealed that this is not the case. They aren't evil, just cruel. They have to be, they feed off the darker emotions (rage, lust, fear, pain, etc).

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* Subverted with the {{Dark|IsEdgy}} Court of TheFairFolk in ''Literature/WickedLovely''. They often seem to be Always Chaotic Evil, but as we learn more about them, it is increasingly revealed that this is not the case. They aren't evil, just cruel. They have to be, since they feed off the darker emotions (rage, lust, fear, pain, etc).



* The Garuns in the ''Literature/GreatAltaSaga''.

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* %%* The Garuns in the ''Literature/GreatAltaSaga''.



* The trope plays straight with the demons in ''TheMortalInstruments''. Most of them do not seem to be very intelligent, and they have nothing else in mind than humans to attack and eat. But some of them also have a human-like intelligence. But these are actually worse because they rape humans to witness warlocks. Clary once said that the demons can only destroy, and descend only about why humans because warlocks are the only thing they can create.
** However, the warlocks invert this trope. They are just as moral as humans.

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* The trope plays straight with the demons in ''TheMortalInstruments''.''Literature/TheMortalInstruments''. Most of them do not seem to be very intelligent, and they have nothing else in mind than humans to attack and eat. But some of them also have a human-like intelligence. But these are actually worse because they rape humans to witness warlocks. Clary once said that the demons can only destroy, and descend only about why humans because warlocks are the only thing they can create.
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create. However, the warlocks invert this trope. They are just as moral as humans.



* [[StarfishAlien Zotl]] in A.A. Attanasio's ''The Last Legends of Earth'' are never shown with particularly noble or redeeming features - although to be fair, when your species literally feeds on the pain of other species, the ability to genuinely empathise with them would be something of a drawback.

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* [[StarfishAlien [[StarfishAliens Zotl]] in A.A. Attanasio's ''The Last Legends of Earth'' are never shown with particularly noble or redeeming features - although to be fair, when your species literally feeds on the pain of other species, the ability to genuinely empathise with them would be something of a drawback.



*** Played straight (with one exception) with the Kazon; they were featured almost constantly on the show's first two seasons, and yet never recieved any significant CharacterDevelopment or manifested any redeeming features whatsoever (not even in the form of [[DefectorFromDecadence defectors from decadence]]). The sole exception was the episode ''Initiations'' which gave the Kazon some motivation, and showed that the possibility of redemption existed in a few of them. Sadly, that was the show's only attempt to give the Kazon some depth.

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*** Played straight (with one exception) with the Kazon; they were featured almost constantly on the show's first two seasons, and yet never recieved received any significant CharacterDevelopment or manifested any redeeming features whatsoever (not even in the form of [[DefectorFromDecadence defectors from decadence]]). The sole exception was the episode ''Initiations'' which gave the Kazon some motivation, and showed that the possibility of redemption existed in a few of them. Sadly, that was the show's only attempt to give the Kazon some depth.



* In ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' the Magog are obligate carnivores who need to kill their prey themselves to start the digestive process, prefer sentient "food", and lay their eggs in the stomachs of other humanoids. Nietzscheans are genetically engineered superhumans who follow a themepark version of Creator/FriedrichNietzsche's philosophy mixed with a heavy dose of SocialDarwinism and overthrew the Systems Commonwealth causing the Long Night. But the Andromeda Ascendant's crew includes one of both species, Rev Bem is a Magog converted to a non-violent religion called Wayism while Tyr Anasazi was a Nietzschean mercenary who saw the Andromeda as a way to further his own interests.

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* In ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' the Magog are obligate carnivores who need to kill their prey themselves to start the digestive process, prefer sentient "food", and lay their eggs in the stomachs of other humanoids. Nietzscheans are genetically engineered superhumans who follow a themepark version of Creator/FriedrichNietzsche's philosophy mixed with a heavy dose of SocialDarwinism [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinism]] and overthrew the Systems Commonwealth causing the Long Night. But the Andromeda Ascendant's crew includes one of both species, Rev Bem is a Magog converted to a non-violent religion called Wayism while Tyr Anasazi was a Nietzschean mercenary who saw the Andromeda as a way to further his own interests.



** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[{{FaceHeelTurn}} was caught in the Weaver's Webs.]]
*** Pretty much played straight with The Black Spiral Dancers. They were once Garou who descended into the Wyrm's very own home in an attempt to destroy it. They lost and were forced to "dance The Black Spiral." This had [[{{BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil}} severe]] [[{{GoMadFromTheRevelation}} consequences]] on their psyches. Any one who enters that monstrosity is doomed to a life of depravity and madness.
** [[{{OmnicidalManiac}} The Nephandi]] from ''TabletopGames/MageTheAscension'' are this after [[{{NightmareFuel}} haveing their souls ripped inside out.]] Once you become Nephandi there is no going back.

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** Werewolves have the Wyrm, the supernatural force of death and corruption, which used to be the relatively balanced great spirit of destruction, serving a useful and necessary purpose, until it [[{{FaceHeelTurn}} [[FaceHeelTurn was caught in the Weaver's Webs.]]
*** Pretty much played straight with The Black Spiral Dancers. They were once Garou who descended into the Wyrm's very own home in an attempt to destroy it. They lost and were forced to "dance The Black Spiral." This had [[{{BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil}} [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil severe]] [[{{GoMadFromTheRevelation}} [[GoMadFromTheRevelation consequences]] on their psyches. Any one who enters that monstrosity is doomed to a life of depravity and madness.
** [[{{OmnicidalManiac}} [[OmnicidalManiac The Nephandi]] from ''TabletopGames/MageTheAscension'' ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' are this after [[{{NightmareFuel}} haveing [[NightmareFuel having their souls ripped inside out.]] Once you become Nephandi there is no going back.



** The true Fae in ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'' tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact [[{{ChaoticNeutral}} Always Chaotic Neutral]] , the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} do]] [[{{ToServeMan}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} people]].

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** The true Fae in ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'' tend to support themselves by draining human emotion out of the world at their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality most friendly]], and it goes downhill from here. While it could be argued that they are in fact [[{{ChaoticNeutral}} [[ChaoticNeutral Always Chaotic Neutral]] , Neutral]], the point is moot considering what they [[{{BodyHorror}} [[BodyHorror actually]] [[{{RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil}} [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil do]] [[{{ToServeMan}} to]] [[{{MindRape}} {{to|ServeMan}} [[MindRape people]].



** ''TabletopGames/VampireTheRequiem'' has The Strix in its second edition. To an owl they hate both vampires and the living simply because they live (or at least have a corporeal body). They delight in murder in chaos and are one of few things out there that [[{{NightmareFuel}} scare vampires.]]

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** ''TabletopGames/VampireTheRequiem'' has The Strix in its second edition. To an owl they hate both vampires and the living simply because they live (or at least have a corporeal body). They delight in murder in chaos and are one of few things out there that [[{{NightmareFuel}} [[NightmareFuel/VampireTheRequiem scare vampires.]]
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** The Brotherhood of Makuta themselves are a zig-zagged example, and mostly an InformedAttribute: they are generally antagonists, several of them are [[BloodKnight very]] [[AxCrazy nasty]], and their leader is the BigBad; but most Makuta who we see are more in vein of {{Mad Scientist}}s,indifferent to anything but their personal creations, which they dote on; or JustFollowingOrders. Several AlternateUniverse versions of [[BigBad Teridax]] and other Makuta are good, and even among the prime-Brotherhood there are a few decent members like Krika and Miserix.

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** The Brotherhood of Makuta themselves are a zig-zagged example, and mostly an InformedAttribute: they are generally antagonists, several of them are [[BloodKnight very]] [[AxCrazy nasty]], and their leader is the BigBad; but most Makuta who we see are more in vein of {{Mad Scientist}}s,indifferent Scientist}}s, indifferent to anything but their personal creations, which they dote on; or JustFollowingOrders. Several AlternateUniverse versions of [[BigBad Teridax]] and other Makuta are good, and even among the prime-Brotherhood there are a few decent members like Krika and Miserix.



** Also subverted in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', where the [[AnAesop Aesop]] was that [[DarkIsNotEvil not everything that looks evil necessarily is]]; the Bulblins certain seem to all be annoying little [[OurGoblinsAreDifferent goblins]] who kill you just for the heck of it, but you eventually find out that [[spoiler:King Bulblin, the RecurringBoss, is actually quite intelligent. After you beat him at Hyrule Castle, he defers to you as a WorthyOpponent.]]

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** Also subverted in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'', where the [[AnAesop Aesop]] was that [[DarkIsNotEvil not everything that looks evil necessarily is]]; the Bulblins certain seem to all be annoying little [[OurGoblinsAreDifferent goblins]] who kill you just for the heck of it, but you eventually find out that [[spoiler:King Bulblin, the RecurringBoss, is actually quite intelligent. After you beat him at Hyrule Castle, he defers to you as a WorthyOpponent.]]WorthyOpponent]].



* Kamal Re'x, the leader of the Hierarchy's invasion of Earth in ''UniverseAtWar'', gives this trope as an excuse for their actions -- it's "their nature". [[spoiler: Given that he's giving this excuse to a Hierarchy military commander who staged an ultimately unsuccessful rebellion after cynically tiring of its corruption and its constant senseless warfare, it doesn't exactly ring true.]]

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* Kamal Re'x, the leader of the Hierarchy's invasion of Earth in ''UniverseAtWar'', ''VideoGame/UniverseAtWar'', gives this trope as an excuse for their actions -- it's "their nature". [[spoiler: Given that he's giving this excuse to a Hierarchy military commander who staged an ultimately unsuccessful rebellion after cynically tiring of its corruption and its constant senseless warfare, it doesn't exactly ring true.]]



** Demons are not all evil either. Many types of demons are just mindless animals or (such as imps) don't do anything worse than petty thievery. The player can hire a demon to be their butler. Avernic demons (which are the ones that look like [[BigRedDevil Big Red Devils]]) are not pure evil, but are extremely warlike, and some have allied with the goddless faction because they want to no longer be enslaved by the [[MagicallyBindingContract contracts]] they made with the gods. Intelligent Cthonian demons (which are the ones that look like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]]) are not all evil either as they have BlueAndOrangeMorality and are capable of forming legitimate friendships (one Cthonian actually went insane with guilt after accidentally eating a human child he had befriended).

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** Demons are not all evil either. Many types of demons are just mindless animals or (such as imps) don't do anything worse than petty thievery. The player can hire a demon to be their butler. Avernic demons (which are the ones that look like [[BigRedDevil Big {{Big Red Devils]]) Devil}}s) are not pure evil, but are extremely warlike, and some have allied with the goddless faction because they want to no longer want to be enslaved by the [[MagicallyBindingContract contracts]] they made with the gods. Intelligent Cthonian demons (which are the ones that look like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]]) {{Eldritch Abomination}}s) are not all evil either as they have BlueAndOrangeMorality and are capable of forming legitimate friendships (one Cthonian actually went insane with guilt after accidentally eating a human child he had befriended).



** Played absolutely straight with the Collectors, though. According to Mordin, they have "no soul" and "must be destroyed". Again, this one fits the "artificially created" part, as they've been twisted by the Reapers and are mind-controlled by them. Furthering this point, in the From Ashes DLC for VideoGame/MassEffect3, Collectors are seen as nothing more than husks. It is possible that all communication is done by [[spoiler: the Eldritch Abomination Harbinger]].

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** Played absolutely straight with the Collectors, though. According to Mordin, they have "no soul" and "must be destroyed". Again, this one fits the "artificially created" part, as they've been twisted by the Reapers and are mind-controlled by them. Furthering this point, in the From Ashes DLC for VideoGame/MassEffect3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', Collectors are seen as nothing more than husks. It is possible that all communication is done by [[spoiler: the Eldritch Abomination Harbinger]].



** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' Plays with it in-universe in terms of Vampires. The [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple]]'s stance is that because it is easy to tell when you are becoming one, and because the condition is very easily cured within the first three days of the transformation, the only people who ''allow'' themselves to become night-stalking parasites are people who are already ChaoticEvil. Therefore, [[KnightTemplar the policy of killing all vampires on sight]] is {{Justified}} to them. As Galur Rithari's Papers (not to speak of a few incidents in later games) indicate, it's not always ''that'' simple...

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' Plays with it in-universe in terms of Vampires. The [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple]]'s stance is that because it is easy to tell when you are becoming one, and because the condition is very easily cured within the first three days of the transformation, the only people who ''allow'' themselves to become night-stalking parasites are people who are already ChaoticEvil. Therefore, [[KnightTemplar the policy of killing all vampires on sight]] is {{Justified}} {{justified|Trope}} to them. As Galur Rithari's Papers (not to speak of a few incidents in later games) indicate, it's not always ''that'' simple...



* ''VideoGame/EndlessSpace'' has the Cravers; a race of cybernetically augmented oversized insects. Engineered by the [[{{Precursors}} Virtual Endless]] as a biological weapon, the Endless did a [[NeglectfulPrecursors pretty shoddy job killing them off]] when they accomplished their task, leading to the HordeOfAlienLocusts to infest the galaxy. [[ForeverWar The Cravers can never be a peace]]; their only diplomatic actions are "Declare War". They must continuously expand lest they consume their own civilization. Most Cravers are not intelligent, being a race of BeePeople. However, Cravers can become augmented by contact with [[ImportedAlienPhlebotinum Dust]], which significantly [[UpliftedAnimal boosts their intelligence, and morality]]; rejected by their hives, they offer themselves as commanders and governors to other races or hives. ''VideoGame/EndlessLegend'' has the functionally similar Necrophages.

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* ''VideoGame/EndlessSpace'' has the Cravers; a race of cybernetically augmented oversized insects. Engineered by the [[{{Precursors}} Virtual Endless]] as a biological weapon, the Endless did a [[NeglectfulPrecursors pretty shoddy job killing them off]] when they accomplished their task, leading to the HordeOfAlienLocusts to infest the galaxy. [[ForeverWar The Cravers can never be a at peace]]; their only diplomatic actions are "Declare War". They must continuously expand lest they consume their own civilization. Most Cravers are not intelligent, being a race of BeePeople. However, Cravers can become augmented by contact with [[ImportedAlienPhlebotinum Dust]], which significantly [[UpliftedAnimal boosts their intelligence, and morality]]; rejected by their hives, they offer themselves as commanders and governors to other races or hives. ''VideoGame/EndlessLegend'' has the functionally similar Necrophages.



* The Grineer from ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'', are a {{Justified}} example: a genetically engineered SlaveRace with high strength, high obedience and low intelligence designed for hard labor (Strong enough to do the job, obedient enough to stay in line and dumb enough to not question the status quo) repurposed into soldiers, whom, after some serious case of MistreatmentInducedBetrayal, decided to takeover the solar system, became an army of [[CloneDegeneration degenerating clones]], strong enough to use heavy armor and weapons, obedient enough to follow orders without and dumb enough not question why they're doing that, and what few were smart enough to question the status quo either got executed, or found a way to join the Steel Meridian, a group of DefectorFromDecadence who [[WeHelpTheHelpless help the helpless]].
* Videogame/StarwarsTheOldRepublic averts this for the Sith. Most are irredeemably evil and those who aren't often defect to the Jedi, but especially later on you meet several who wholeheartedly embrace the sith code but reject the more AxCrazy traits of their fellows (it helps that the more crazy or evil have by that point killed themselves off). A Light Side Inquisitor or Warrior in particular can enthusiastically quote sith dogma while still being the more heroic character in their story.

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* The Grineer from ''VideoGame/{{Warframe}}'', are a {{Justified}} {{justified|Trope}} example: a genetically engineered SlaveRace with high strength, high obedience and low intelligence designed for hard labor (Strong enough to do the job, obedient enough to stay in line and dumb enough to not question the status quo) repurposed into soldiers, whom, after some serious case of MistreatmentInducedBetrayal, decided to takeover the solar system, became an army of [[CloneDegeneration degenerating clones]], strong enough to use heavy armor and weapons, obedient enough to follow orders without and dumb enough not question why they're doing that, and what few were smart enough to question the status quo either got executed, or found a way to join the Steel Meridian, a group of DefectorFromDecadence who [[WeHelpTheHelpless help the helpless]].
* Videogame/StarwarsTheOldRepublic ''Videogame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' averts this for the Sith. Most are irredeemably evil and those who aren't often defect to the Jedi, but especially later on you meet several who wholeheartedly embrace the sith code but reject the more AxCrazy traits of their fellows (it helps that the more crazy or evil have by that point killed themselves off). A Light Side Inquisitor or Warrior in particular can enthusiastically quote sith dogma while still being the more heroic character in their story.



* Rattata in ''A Petty Nuzlocke Challenge''.

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** Redcloak's entire character arc from ''[[{{Prequel}} Start Of Darkness]]'' can be seen as a {{Deconstruction}} of this trope: [[spoiler:the goblins are formally designated as Evil Cannon Fodder by the gods, which doesn't sit too well with him when his family is slaughtered by crusading paladins. His ultimate goal is to give his race equal standing among the other major species of the world, but he slowly takes more and more horrific actions pursuing his plan to do so -- thus becoming the very thing that he objects to being labeled as. Is he evil because goblins are inherently evil, or because he has been designated as such?]]

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** Redcloak's entire character arc from ''[[{{Prequel}} Start Of of Darkness]]'' can be seen as a {{Deconstruction}} of this trope: [[spoiler:the goblins are formally designated as Evil Cannon Fodder by the gods, which doesn't sit too well with him when his family is slaughtered by crusading paladins. His ultimate goal is to give his race equal standing among the other major species of the world, but he slowly takes more and more horrific actions pursuing his plan to do so -- thus becoming the very thing that he objects to being labeled as. Is he evil because goblins are inherently evil, or because he has been designated as such?]]



** What's more, two later comics show the full unpleasant ramifications of V's actions. [[spoiler:By casting that Familicide spell, V not only killed off 1/4 of the black dragon population, but many {{HalfHumanHybrid}}s that were actually ChaoticGood, as well as their (relatively) innocent full-human mothers. The comics are [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0842.html here]] and [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html here]].]]
** Played straight so far with demons and undead, however - but even then they're allowed to be much more rounded characters than you would normally expect from this trope. In the case of the BigBad Xykon, the prequel book ''StartOfDarkness'' portrays him as utterly, irredeemably evil even in life - and ''still'' manages to make his lichification look tragic: [[spoiler:the process removed his sense of taste, meaning [[ItMakesSenseInContext he can never taste a bad cup of coffee again]]. He proceeds to kill his minions on a whim and send them into certain death, and abuse the ones he doesn't kill, solely because it's the only way for him to feel any joy, or really much of ''anything'', anymore]]. Most of the other undead we see are his zombified minions, who pretty much just shamble about saying "braaains", unless you count ghosts who act pretty much the same as they were in life. Demons seem to be borderline AnthropomorphicPersonifications of their alignment, but even then the most prominent ones we see in the comic, the IFCC, are out to bring an end to the rivalry between the various demonic races and bring them together to fight for the greater evil. (And Sabine, a [[HornyDevils succubus]], may be evil, but she's also portrayed as being in a stable relationship with an also-evil human man.)

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** What's more, two later comics show the full unpleasant ramifications of V's actions. [[spoiler:By casting that Familicide spell, V not only killed off 1/4 of the black dragon population, but many {{HalfHumanHybrid}}s [[HalfHumanHybrid Half-Human Hybrids]] that were actually ChaoticGood, as well as their (relatively) innocent full-human mothers. The comics are [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0842.html here]] and [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html here]].]]
** Played straight so far with demons and undead, however - but even then they're allowed to be much more rounded characters than you would normally expect from this trope. In the case of the BigBad Xykon, the prequel book ''StartOfDarkness'' portrays him as utterly, irredeemably evil even in life - and ''still'' manages to make his lichification look tragic: [[spoiler:the process removed his sense of taste, meaning [[ItMakesSenseInContext he can never taste a bad cup of coffee again]]. He proceeds to kill his minions on a whim and send them into certain death, and abuse the ones he doesn't kill, solely because it's the only way for him to feel any joy, or really much of ''anything'', anymore]]. Most of the other undead we see are his zombified minions, who pretty much just shamble about saying "braaains", unless you count ghosts who act pretty much the same as they were in life. Demons seem to be borderline AnthropomorphicPersonifications {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of their alignment, but even then the most prominent ones we see in the comic, the IFCC, are out to bring an end to the rivalry between the various demonic races and bring them together to fight for the greater evil. (And Sabine, a [[HornyDevils succubus]], may be evil, but she's also portrayed as being in a stable relationship with an also-evil human man.)



* Webcomic/{{Runewriters}} has the aberrants, magical monster attack all living creatures that come anywhere near them.

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* Webcomic/{{Runewriters}} ''Webcomic/{{Runewriters}}'' has the aberrants, magical monster attack all living creatures that come anywhere near them.



* Both invoked and averted on ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. All races portrayed onscreen (humans, gargoyles, fae, and New Olympians) are shown to have both good and evil members, but [[BigBad Demona]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters views humanity this way]], and the Quarrymen portray gargoyles like this in their recruiting campaigns.
** Demona herself is one of very few evil gargoyles, the race as a whole is supposedly AlwaysLawfulGood, having a near biological drive to protect and safeguard the places that they live and those places' inhabitants. It is, however, up to the individual gargoyle clans how they choose to interpret these drives, ranging anywhere from "Stay the hell away from my caves, filthy human scum" to "Here I come to save the daaaaay!"

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* Both invoked and averted on ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. All races portrayed onscreen (humans, gargoyles, fae, and New Olympians) are shown to have both good and evil members, but [[BigBad Demona]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters views humanity this way]], and the Quarrymen portray gargoyles like this in their recruiting campaigns.
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campaigns. Demona herself is one of very few evil gargoyles, the race as a whole is supposedly AlwaysLawfulGood, having a near biological drive to protect and safeguard the places that they live and those places' inhabitants. It is, however, up to the individual gargoyle clans how they choose to interpret these drives, ranging anywhere from "Stay the hell away from my caves, filthy human scum" to "Here I come to save the daaaaay!"



* The Shadow Clan from ''WesternAnimation/{{Slugterra}}''. [[spoiler:Subverted, in that they are later revealed to be defenders of Slugterra, but also happen to be GoodIsNotNice]]. Also, the Dark Bane.

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* The Shadow Clan from ''WesternAnimation/{{Slugterra}}''. [[spoiler:Subverted, in that they are later revealed to be defenders of Slugterra, but also happen to be GoodIsNotNice]]. GoodIsNotNice.]] Also, the Dark Bane.



* Several races in ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'': the Ogres, the Trolls, the Carpies (vulture-like creatures) and the Troggles (dog-like creatures).
** Worth notice that Toady, the smarter of the Ogres, does have a Moral Compass and is capable of questioning the evil actions of Igthorn, but is extremely loyal to him. Itís possible that Ogres are just to dumb and are manipulated by Igthorn.

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* Several races in ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGummiBears'': the Ogres, the Trolls, the Carpies (vulture-like creatures) and the Troggles (dog-like creatures).
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creatures). Worth notice that Toady, the smarter of the Ogres, does have a Moral Compass and is capable of questioning the evil actions of Igthorn, but is extremely loyal to him. Itís possible that Ogres are just to dumb and are manipulated by Igthorn.
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* [[StarfishAlien Zotl]] in A.A. Attanasio's ''The Last Legends of Earth'' are never shown with particularly noble or redeeming features - although to be fair, when your species literally feeds on the pain of other species, the ability to genuinely empathise with them would be something of a drawback.
21st Feb '17 9:00:31 AM Bugfragged
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* ''VideoGame/NocturneRebirth'' has the Devil class of monsters, which seem to be obsessed with destroying any human settlements they can find to the point of considering it a mission. [[spoiler:This is because the AbusivePrecursors of the setting mentally programmed them to act as an army against an opposing country. Unfortunately, the Devils can't distinguish between sides and just target humans on instinct, resulting in the destruction of both countries. The only exceptions are the three vampiric Ancestors, who start as {{Blank Slate}}s.]]
21st Feb '17 8:20:21 AM BeerBaron
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' Plays with it in terms of Vampires. The [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple]]'s stance is that because it is easy to tell when you are becoming one, and because the condition is very easily cured within the first three days of the transformation, the only people who ''allow'' themselves to become night-stalking parasites are people who are already ChaoticEvil. Therefore, the policy of killing all vampires on sight is {{Justified}} to them. As Galur Rithari's Papers (not to speak of a few incidents in later games) indicate, it's not always ''that'' simple...

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' Plays with it in-universe in terms of Vampires. The [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple]]'s stance is that because it is easy to tell when you are becoming one, and because the condition is very easily cured within the first three days of the transformation, the only people who ''allow'' themselves to become night-stalking parasites are people who are already ChaoticEvil. Therefore, [[KnightTemplar the policy of killing all vampires on sight sight]] is {{Justified}} to them. As Galur Rithari's Papers (not to speak of a few incidents in later games) indicate, it's not always ''that'' simple...
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* In ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'' Valerie's underground-dwelling race of dark elves were regarded as this. As the plot of the book involves the forces of darkness being wiped out and heroic armies and warriors reigning supreme, their entire people wind up on the receiving end of genocide.
4th Feb '17 7:07:16 AM Doug86
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* All vehicles become this in StephenKing's short story ''Literature/{{Trucks}}'' adapted latter into the ''Film/MaximumOverdrive'' movie.

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* All vehicles become this in StephenKing's Creator/StephenKing's short story ''Literature/{{Trucks}}'' adapted latter later into the ''Film/MaximumOverdrive'' movie.
29th Jan '17 6:00:21 AM GrammarNavi
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* The Cragmites of ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction'' are shown to be this. Emperor Perceval Tachyon (the only one we see in the game [[spoiler: before he found the dimension that they were banished to and brought them back]]) wants to [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the galaxy]], and REALLY wants to pop Ratchet's head [[spoiler: because the Lombaxes banished the Cragmites, raised Tachyon as one of them regardless of his origins, and because Ractchet's father was the guardian of the Dimensionator (the machine which teleported the Cragmites away)]]; but still, there are no lifeforms who are neutral to Ratchet in the universe...

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* The Cragmites of ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction'' are shown to be this. Emperor Perceval Tachyon (the only one we see in the game [[spoiler: before he found the dimension that they were banished to and brought them back]]) wants to [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the galaxy]], and REALLY wants to pop Ratchet's head [[spoiler: because the Lombaxes banished the Cragmites, raised Tachyon as one of them regardless of his origins, and because Ractchet's Ratchet's father was the guardian of the Dimensionator (the machine which teleported the Cragmites away)]]; but still, there are no lifeforms who are neutral to Ratchet in the universe...



** The Blarg from [[VideoGame/RatchetAndClank the first game]] may also qualify, though they have sympathetic motives and are apparently being manipulated by their leader, Chairman Drek.

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** The Blarg from [[VideoGame/RatchetAndClank [[VideoGame/RatchetAndClank2002 the first game]] may also qualify, though they have sympathetic motives and are apparently being manipulated by their leader, Chairman Drek.
25th Jan '17 7:49:22 AM AgentKyles
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It's quite common for a fantasy BigBad to have an Always Chaotic Evil race at the ready to use as {{mooks}}. It's usually justified as an [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil arrangement]] among the various PowersThatBe. The heroes are likely to be from races where good and evil are possible, to [[AlikeAndAntitheticalAdversaries contrast their differences]].

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It's quite common for a fantasy BigBad to have an Always Chaotic Evil race at the ready to use as {{mooks}}.{{mooks}} ([[HenchmenRace possibly even engineered by them]]). It's usually justified as an [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil arrangement]] among the various PowersThatBe. The heroes are likely to be from races where good and evil are possible, to [[AlikeAndAntitheticalAdversaries contrast their differences]].
8th Jan '17 10:21:02 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Completely subverted in ''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos''. The [[TheLegionsOfHell Demon]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] seems like this at a glance, but it's actually a well-organized and [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure rational]] state that runs almost entirely on PragmaticVillainy. Even the Emirate of Mecca, probably the most evil faction of them all, has some gray spots and not all Muslims entirely agree with it (most notably [[DefectorFromDecadence Abduhl]])

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* Completely subverted Subverted in ''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos''. The [[TheLegionsOfHell Demon]] [[TheEmpire Demon Empire]] seems like this at a glance, but it's actually a well-organized and [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure rational]] state that runs almost entirely on PragmaticVillainy. Even the Emirate of Mecca, probably the most evil faction of them all, has some gray spots and not all Muslims entirely agree with it (most notably [[DefectorFromDecadence Abduhl]])



** Zizagged with the Shroud. The Shroud individually are [[NonMaliciousMonster animals simply following their natural instincts]]; however, the [[HiveMind Shroud Primes]] that control them are all ruthlessly intelligent [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]].
* The Tayhil in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''.

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** Zizagged with the Shroud. The Shroud individually are [[NonMaliciousMonster animals simply following their natural instincts]]; however, the [[HiveMind Shroud Primes]] that control them are all ruthlessly intelligent [[OmnicidalManiac Omnicidal Maniacs]].
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The Tayhil in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''.
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*The Tayhil in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''.
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