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4th Jul '17 3:32:21 PM Willbyr
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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'': There is the original 1974 series and it's 1977 movie compilation (of which are two endings; [[spoiler:One has the crew reach Iscandar and find out that Queen Starsha has died but left a recorded message]]. But either way, the Earth is still saved but one ending leaves no room for the events of New Voyage, Starsha's daughter Sasha, or Mamoru's later role). Then you have ''Arrivederci Yamato'' and it's 1978 TV expanded version with alternate ending (allowing a logical continuation). The ''Yamato III'' series may or may not have taken place in 2205, according to some printed sources. Either way, ''Final Yamato'' takes place in 2203 so that means that the ''Yamato III'' events have either been eliminated or, given that Galman and Bolar get a brief mention in ''Final'', the events of ''Yamato III'' might have happened in a condensed version. There are two continuations that are clearly alternate realities: the aborted Yamato 2520 and the later ''Yamato Ressurection''. We also have manga versions of the story soley by co-creator LeijiMatsumoto that are strictly Leijiverse; Yamato freely interacts with ''CaptainHarlock'' and ''GalaxyExpress999''. Matsumoto has rights to the name Yamato and all of the visual design elements while the Yoshinobu Nishizaki estate has rights to the name Yamato, established characters and established storylines. It's anyone's guess where the forgotten OVA ''Dai Yamato Zero'' lies in terms of continuity, given it's setting in the year 3199, but neither Matsumoto or Nishizaki did appear to have been involved in its production. Last but not least, we have reboot ''SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'', and as an honorary mention, it is worth counting the [[StarBlazers Westernized version of the original series.]]
* ''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.

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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'': ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'': There is the original 1974 series and it's 1977 movie compilation (of which are two endings; [[spoiler:One has the crew reach Iscandar and find out that Queen Starsha has died but left a recorded message]]. But either way, the Earth is still saved but one ending leaves no room for the events of New Voyage, Starsha's daughter Sasha, or Mamoru's later role). Then you have ''Arrivederci Yamato'' and it's 1978 TV expanded version with alternate ending (allowing a logical continuation). The ''Yamato III'' series may or may not have taken place in 2205, according to some printed sources. Either way, ''Final Yamato'' takes place in 2203 so that means that the ''Yamato III'' events have either been eliminated or, given that Galman and Bolar get a brief mention in ''Final'', the events of ''Yamato III'' might have happened in a condensed version. There are two continuations that are clearly alternate realities: the aborted Yamato 2520 and the later ''Yamato Ressurection''. We also have manga versions of the story soley by co-creator LeijiMatsumoto that are strictly Leijiverse; Yamato freely interacts with ''CaptainHarlock'' ''Anime/CaptainHarlock'' and ''GalaxyExpress999''.''Manga/GalaxyExpress999''. Matsumoto has rights to the name Yamato and all of the visual design elements while the Yoshinobu Nishizaki estate has rights to the name Yamato, established characters and established storylines. It's anyone's guess where the forgotten OVA ''Dai Yamato Zero'' lies in terms of continuity, given it's setting in the year 3199, but neither Matsumoto or Nishizaki did appear to have been involved in its production. Last but not least, we have reboot ''SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'', and as an honorary mention, it is worth counting the [[StarBlazers Westernized version of the original series.]]
* ''{{Robotech}}'' ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' ''Anime/SuperDimensionCalvarySouthernCross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). ''Anime/GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, video games, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' ''Anime/Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.
2nd Jul '17 2:39:44 AM Piterpicher
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* ''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.

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* ''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''RobotechTheShadowChronicles''.''WesternAnimation/RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.
23rd Jun '17 12:04:50 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''FanFic/FatalFrameVIVengeance'' serves as this to the main ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' series as of the release of ''Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water''; for starters, Miku Hinasaki married a man named Shuichiro Kobayashi and had two daughters, one of whom is Sumiko's friend Minako.
8th Jun '17 9:14:24 PM avon
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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'': There is the original 1974 series and it's 1977 movie compilation (of which are two endings; [[spoiler:One has the crew reach Iscandar and find out that Queen Starsha has died but left a recorded message]]). Then you have ''Arrivederci Yamato'' and it's 1978 expanded version with alternate ending (allowing a logical continuation). The ''Yamato III'' series may or may not have taken place in 2205, according to some printed sources. Either way, ''Final Yamato'' takes place in 2203 so that means that the ''Yamato III'' events have either been eliminated or, given that Galman and Bolar get a brief mention in ''Final'', the events of ''Yamato III'' might have happened in a condensed version. There are two continuations that are clearly alternate realities: the aborted Yamato 2520 and the later ''Yamato Ressurection''. We also have manga versions of the story soley by co-creator LeijiMatsumoto that are strictly Leijiverse; Yamato freely interacts with ''CaptainHarlock'' and ''GalaxyExpress999''. Matsumoto has rights to the name Yamato and all of the visual design elements while the Yoshinobu Nishizaki estate has rights to the name Yamato, established characters and established storylines. Last but not least, we have reboot ''SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'', and as an honorary mention, it is worth counting the [[StarBlazers Westernized version.]]
''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.

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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato'': There is the original 1974 series and it's 1977 movie compilation (of which are two endings; [[spoiler:One has the crew reach Iscandar and find out that Queen Starsha has died but left a recorded message]]). message]]. But either way, the Earth is still saved but one ending leaves no room for the events of New Voyage, Starsha's daughter Sasha, or Mamoru's later role). Then you have ''Arrivederci Yamato'' and it's 1978 TV expanded version with alternate ending (allowing a logical continuation). The ''Yamato III'' series may or may not have taken place in 2205, according to some printed sources. Either way, ''Final Yamato'' takes place in 2203 so that means that the ''Yamato III'' events have either been eliminated or, given that Galman and Bolar get a brief mention in ''Final'', the events of ''Yamato III'' might have happened in a condensed version. There are two continuations that are clearly alternate realities: the aborted Yamato 2520 and the later ''Yamato Ressurection''. We also have manga versions of the story soley by co-creator LeijiMatsumoto that are strictly Leijiverse; Yamato freely interacts with ''CaptainHarlock'' and ''GalaxyExpress999''. Matsumoto has rights to the name Yamato and all of the visual design elements while the Yoshinobu Nishizaki estate has rights to the name Yamato, established characters and established storylines. It's anyone's guess where the forgotten OVA ''Dai Yamato Zero'' lies in terms of continuity, given it's setting in the year 3199, but neither Matsumoto or Nishizaki did appear to have been involved in its production. Last but not least, we have reboot ''SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'', and as an honorary mention, it is worth counting the [[StarBlazers Westernized version.version of the original series.]]
* ''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.
8th Jun '17 8:24:26 AM PDL
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** First comes the games, which thanks to OneGameForThePriceOfTwo further consist of AlternateTimelines[[note]]The PlayableEpilogue from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]''[[/note]] and AlternateUniverses[[note]]The [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Entralink Entralink]] from ''Videogame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''[[/note]].

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** First comes the games, which thanks to OneGameForThePriceOfTwo further consist of AlternateTimelines[[note]]The {{Alternate Timeline}}s[[note]]The PlayableEpilogue from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]''[[/note]] and AlternateUniverses[[note]]The {{Alternate Universe}}s[[note]]The [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Entralink Entralink]] from ''Videogame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''[[/note]].



** Several spinoffs of the games exist, many of which have manga or anime adaptations of their own.

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** Several spinoffs spin-offs of the games exist, many of which have manga or anime adaptations of their own.
20th May '17 10:10:10 AM nombretomado
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* The ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'' manga feature new characters and settings inspired by the main games, along with different character interpretations and personalities.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}'' manga feature new characters and settings inspired by the main games, along with different character interpretations and personalities.



* The ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'' novels feature new characters and settings inspired by the main games, along with different character interpretations and personalities.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Ultima}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Ultima}}'' novels feature new characters and settings inspired by the main games, along with different character interpretations and personalities.
13th May '17 11:19:04 AM tropeminer
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** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', is probably it's own thing as it abandons the Myers storyline. The series was originally meant to be an AllHallowsEve-themed anthology and references some thematic elements seen in the first two movies, but has eternally been put into discontinuity from the other movies. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the first movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].

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** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', is probably really it's own thing and has eternally been put into discontinuity from the series as it abandons the Myers storyline. The series was originally meant to be an AllHallowsEve-themed anthology and ''H3'' was the merely the next episode and references some thematic elements seen in the first two movies, but has eternally been put into discontinuity from the other movies. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the first movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].
13th May '17 11:12:39 AM tropeminer
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This is different from an AlternateUniverse in that outside of [[{{CrossOver}} crossovers]] and WhatIf scenarios, they generally ''don't'' interact with the "main" universe. However, in some circumstances an AlternateContinuity can ''become'' an AlternateUniverse if the characters crossover.

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This is different from an AlternateUniverse in that outside of [[{{CrossOver}} crossovers]] and WhatIf scenarios, they generally ''don't'' interact with the "main" universe. However, in some circumstances an AlternateContinuity Alternate Continuity can ''become'' an AlternateUniverse if the characters crossover.



** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', is probably it's own thing as it abandons the Myers storyline. The series was originally meant to be an AllHallowsEve-themed anthology and references some thematic elements seen in the first two movies, but has now been put into discontinuity from the other movies. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the first movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].

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** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', is probably it's own thing as it abandons the Myers storyline. The series was originally meant to be an AllHallowsEve-themed anthology and references some thematic elements seen in the first two movies, but has now eternally been put into discontinuity from the other movies. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the first movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].
13th May '17 11:07:06 AM tropeminer
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* The ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' movies were rebooted two (or possibly three) times and taking the whole franchise into account, there are, at least, potentially 4 timelines.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Halloween}}'' movies were rebooted two (or possibly three) times and taking the whole franchise into account, there are, at least, potentially 4 3 timelines.



*** While they may be in Broad Strokes, certain aspects of ''Halloween H20'' such as Laurie's fake death and the photos of (presumably) Michael's killings in Loomis' office vaguely add credence to a connection between ''Halloween 6'' and ''H20''. The powers-that-be probably considered canonizing the last three films, but ultimately decided to drop them to restore the franchise to form. A draft of ''H20'' even featured a scene with Laurie vomiting after hearing the news of [[spoiler:her daughter, Jamie Llyod's death]]. One of the comics did actually attempt to bridge the events of ''The Curse of Michael Myers'' and ''H20'', but doing so would've have rendered what happened in ''Resurrection'' to be impossible.
** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', which abandons the Myers storyline, would probably be its own independent timeline as it references certain thematic elements seen in the first two movies despite being put into discontinuity from the rest of the series. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the second movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].

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*** While they may be in Broad Strokes, certain aspects of ''Halloween H20'' such as Laurie's fake death and the photos of (presumably) Michael's killings in Loomis' office vaguely add credence to a connection between ''Halloween ''Halloweens 4, 5 & 6'' and ''H20''. The powers-that-be probably TPTB considered canonizing the last three films, but ultimately decided to drop them to restore the franchise to form. A draft of ''H20'' even featured a scene with Laurie vomiting after hearing the news of [[spoiler:her daughter, Jamie Llyod's death]]. One of the comics did actually attempt to bridge the events of ''The Curse of Michael Myers'' and ''H20'', but doing so would've have rendered what happened in ''Resurrection'' to be impossible.
** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', which abandons the Myers storyline, would probably be its own independent timeline as it references certain thematic elements seen in the first two movies despite being put into discontinuity from the rest of the series. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the second movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].
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** ''Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch'', is probably it's own thing as it abandons the Myers storyline. The series was originally meant to be an AllHallowsEve-themed anthology and references some thematic elements seen in the first two movies, but has now been put into discontinuity from the other movies. Also, a ShoutOut briefly shows a TV commercial of the first movie playing ''within'' this one, making the first two movies as Type 2 [[FilmWithinAFilm films within a film]].
13th May '17 9:58:25 AM avon
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''{{Robotech}}'' began as an alternate continuity to the original Japanese ''{{Macross}}'' series (as well as ''Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross'' and ''GenesisClimberMospeada''). It spawned its own ExpandedUniverse of comics, novels, videogames, and aborted attempts at animated sequels before 2007 with the release of ''RobotechTheShadowChronicles''. As early as 1986, the little known disaster that was ''Robotech The Movie The Untold Story'' (a {{Macekre}} of ''Megazone23'' and ''Southern Cross'') was quickly declared by Macek himself that it was an alternate continuity. In 2006, prior to the release of ''Shadow Chronicles'', Harmony Gold declared that only the original 85 episode series was canon with everything else being secondary continuity. If the planned live action movie ever gets out of DevelopmentHell, this will definitely be an alternate continuity due to the ZeerustCanon nature of the original series where the majority of the action began in 2009.
** Eternity Comics' ''Invid War: Aftermath'' series would have been a different continuity from the Jack Mckinney novel ''End of The Circle''. And Wildstorm's prequel comics were alternate continuity to Eternity's ''Prelude to Macross'' as well as Comico's ''Robotech The Graphic Novel''.
**Other comics that clearly take place in Alternate Continuities
*** Antarctic Press (1997-98)
*** Dynamite Press (''Robotech''/''{{Voltron}}'' crossover) (2013-2015)
*** Titan Comics (2017-)
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