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28th Oct '17 11:51:14 AM OlmoJV
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* Near the ending of ''FanFic/TheVow'', the VillainousBSOD of [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 Lord Shen]] is given weight by having him skip the canon gloating he gives the [[BadassInDistress Furious Five]] about [[spoiler:Po's apparent death]] and his upcoming conquest. The fact that Shen himself acknowledges that he'd have relished in it otherwise shows how heartbroken he is after he [[spoiler:released his newlywed wife Lianne]].

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* Near the ending of ''FanFic/TheVow'', ''Fanfic/TheVow'', the VillainousBSOD of [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 Lord Shen]] is given weight by having him skip the canon gloating he gives the [[BadassInDistress Furious Five]] about [[spoiler:Po's apparent death]] and his upcoming conquest. The fact that Shen himself acknowledges that he'd have relished in it otherwise shows how heartbroken he is after he [[spoiler:released his newlywed wife Lianne]].
6th Oct '17 6:33:45 PM rosvicl
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* Used in several of the stories in the ''The Mammoth Book of Alternate Histories'': for instance Creator/FrederikPohl's "Waiting For The Olympians" in which a science-romance author in a world where [[UsefulNotes/AncientRome Rome]] never fell imagines what the world would be like if Tiberius had been Emperor; and Paul [=McAuley=]'s "A Very British History", in which a review of a book about the Britain-dominated space program criticises the historian for wasting a chapter speculating on what would have happened if the UK hadn't got all the [[HerrDoktor German rocket scientists]] after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.

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* Used in several of the stories in the ''The Mammoth Book of Alternate Histories'': for instance Creator/FrederikPohl's "Waiting For The Olympians" in which a science-romance author in a world where [[UsefulNotes/AncientRome Rome]] never fell imagines what the world would be like if Tiberius had been Emperor; and Paul [=McAuley=]'s "A Very British History", in which a review of a book about the Britain-dominated space program criticises the historian for wasting a chapter speculating on what would have happened if the UK hadn't got all the [[HerrDoktor German rocket scientists]] after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
6th Oct '17 2:42:47 PM LinTaylor
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** Later in the series, the CSA launches what is effectively UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, except specifically targeting African-Americans. The Joseph Goebbels analogue character remarks that had something like this happened in Europe, the victims would have been Jews like himself; the Hitler analogue character reassures him that that would never happen.
27th Aug '17 1:02:26 AM Doug86
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* In Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''Literature/{{Timeline 191}}'' series where the South wins the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar and the USA ends up in the Central Powers in UsefulNotes/WW1, characters have a run-in with [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler a certain German sergeant]] who just seems to ''hate'' the Jewish character for no obvious reason.

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* In Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''Literature/{{Timeline 191}}'' series where the South wins the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar and the USA ends up in the Central Powers in UsefulNotes/WW1, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, characters have a run-in with [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler a certain German sergeant]] who just seems to ''hate'' the Jewish character for no obvious reason.
2nd Aug '17 3:32:26 PM Mr.Bubbles
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* In ''Literature/ForAllTime'', A President Kennedy is assassinated in Texas by a sniper. Only here, it's President Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (JFK's older brother who was killed in World War II in OTL) and the assassin is Charles Whitman (responsible for the UT tower shooting in OTL).
18th Jun '17 10:32:31 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** Celebrating victory in Vietnam, the Comedian says that defeat would have "driven us crazy, y'know, as a country."

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** Celebrating victory in Vietnam, Vietnam (due to Dr. Manhattan), the Comedian says that defeat would have "driven us crazy, y'know, as a country."
8th May '17 6:47:02 AM Hossmeister
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* In ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'', the [[ShowWithinAShow novel-within-a-novel]] ''The Grasshopper Lies Heavy'' is alternate history about a world in which FDR wasn't assassinated. It turns out completely differently than in our timeline, but still with an Allied victory.

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* In ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'', the [[ShowWithinAShow novel-within-a-novel]] ''The Grasshopper Lies Heavy'' is alternate history about a world in which FDR wasn't assassinated. It turns out completely differently than in our timeline, but still with an Allied victory. There are references to our version of history within the novel, such as the Nazis landing on the moon, naming their airports after leaders within the German-American Bund, and commercializing Concorde jets (which hadn't even been completely built when Literature/PhilipKDick wrote the novel!).



* ''Series/TheManInTheHighCastle'', which depicts an alternate history where the Axis won World War II and conquered the US:
** Confronting a mole in his unit, Obergruppenführer Smith notes he was "just following orders" from the real villain before pushing him off a ledge.
** While facing the realization that his actions have made nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.

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* ''Series/TheManInTheHighCastle'', which depicts an alternate history where the Axis won World War II and conquered the US:
** Confronting a mole in his unit, Obergruppenführer Smith notes he was "just following orders" from
US. While keeping the real villain before pushing him off allusions of [[Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle the novel]], the show introduces a ledge.
few new ones:
** While facing the realization that his actions have made nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.
Nagasaki. [[spoiler: It turns out that his aide is from our timeline where [[UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed]], and he suffers from burns from the attacks. Later, the show introduces a Resistance member who suffered burns and scars from the Nazis having dropped an atomic bomb on Washington DC]].
** The show includes a reference to Operation Anthropoid, the successful plan to kill Reinhard Heydrich. Except, in our timeline, [[spoiler: the irony is that Heydrich ''orchestrates'' the assassination attempt, and the intended target is Obergruppenfuhrer Smith]].
30th Apr '17 7:56:02 AM OlmoJV
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* Near the ending of ''FanFic/TheVow'', the VillainousBSOD of [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 Lord Shen]] is given weight by having him skip the canon gloating he gives the [[BadassInDistress Furious Five]] about [[spoiler:Po's apparent death]] and his upcoming conquest. The fact that Shen himself acknowledges that he'd have relished in it otherwise shows how heartbroken he is after he [[spoiler:released his newlywed wife Lianne]].
13th Jan '17 10:43:36 PM BobSaget9
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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.

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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident [[http://bit.ly/2jP0pYA Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.
13th Jan '17 10:42:51 PM BobSaget9
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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/citroen_ds_incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.

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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/citroen_ds_incident php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.
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