History Main / AllohistoricalAllusion

8th Aug '16 8:12:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In one Italian Disney comic, MickeyMouse ends up in a parallel world where the Roman Empire never fell, though a lot of other things look like the late 20th century. As this alternate Earth has a science fiction genre, Mickey sets himself up as an author by repeating basic real world history as AlternateHistory. His first story of Columbus discovering America is severely edited, because "that's too unrealistic! It could never have happened that way!"

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* In one Italian Disney comic, MickeyMouse ends up in a parallel world where the Roman Empire never fell, though a lot of other things look like the late 20th century. As this alternate Earth has a science fiction genre, Mickey sets himself up as an author by repeating basic real world history as AlternateHistory. His first story of Columbus discovering America is severely edited, because "that's too unrealistic! It could never have happened that way!"way!" In this timeline, the Native Americans developed an empire of their own and discovered Europe first.
2nd Aug '16 6:46:13 AM JamesAustin
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* One of the earlier AlternateHistory works, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill's "If Lee Had Not Won The Battle of Gettysburg" in J.C. Squire's AlternateHistory collection ''If It Had Happened Otherwise'' (1929), used this as a framing device. Among the results if the Union had won, [[Creator/BenjaminDisraeli Disraeli]] might have become a Conservative and [[UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone Gladstone]] a Liberal, Robert E. Lee might not have abolished slavery but [[ValuesDissonance prevented Negro enfranchisement]], and a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI world war involving all the great powers]] might not have been averted.

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* One of the earlier AlternateHistory works, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill's "If Lee Had Not Won The Battle of Gettysburg" in J.C. Squire's AlternateHistory collection ''If It Had Happened Otherwise'' (1929), used this as a framing device. Among the results if the Union had won, [[Creator/BenjaminDisraeli [[UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli Disraeli]] might have become a Conservative and [[UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone Gladstone]] a Liberal, Robert E. Lee might not have abolished slavery but [[ValuesDissonance prevented Negro enfranchisement]], and a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI world war involving all the great powers]] might not have been averted.
17th Jul '16 8:54:38 AM nombretomado
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/RobertRedford running against the incumbent Richard Nixon for the Presidency is met with derision, "This is still America! People don't want [[ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid a cowboy actor]] for president!" In 1985 when it was written, the President was UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, who previously had a career as a cowboy actor. (This is actually set up beautifully, because the newspaper headline being discussed says "RR to run for President?" It's only towards the end of the conversation you find out that RR is Creator/RobertRedford and not a certain other ex-cowboy actor.)

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/RobertRedford running against the incumbent Richard Nixon for the Presidency is met with derision, "This is still America! People don't want [[ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid [[Film/ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid a cowboy actor]] for president!" In 1985 when it was written, the President was UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, who previously had a career as a cowboy actor. (This is actually set up beautifully, because the newspaper headline being discussed says "RR to run for President?" It's only towards the end of the conversation you find out that RR is Creator/RobertRedford and not a certain other ex-cowboy actor.)
22nd Jun '16 6:54:03 AM Schol-R-LEA
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** There are a number of minor changes in the timeline, as well, the most significant (so far as we know) being that after the failure of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw Operation Eagle Claw]], a mercenary unit led by Lord Paramount successfully extracted most of the hostages; this actually made things ''worse'' for Carter, though, as the Reagan election campaign slammed him for being unable to get the job done without the help of foreign mercs.
10th Jun '16 7:01:38 PM Doug86
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* In an episode from the first season of ''Anime/StrikeWitches'' (which is set in an alternate 1944 in which aliens invaded and conquered most of continental Europe in 1939), Minna comments how if the aliens hadn't invaded, their superiors (Europe's political and military leaders) would likely be [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo fighting among themselves]]. An episode from the second season (set in 1945) has the aircraft carrier Amagi supporting the Strike Witches in battle (in real life, the Amagi was a partially completed battle cruiser canceled under the conditions of the Washington Naval Treaty and was intended to be converted into a carrier, but was badly damaged in an earthquake and scrapped.)[[note]]This is all true, but there was another Amagi (Unryu class) built during World War II. It didn't have much of a war record, because the IJN was just about out of planes when it entered service.[[/note]]

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* In an episode from the first season of ''Anime/StrikeWitches'' (which is set in an alternate 1944 in which aliens invaded and conquered most of continental Europe in 1939), Minna comments how if the aliens hadn't invaded, their superiors (Europe's political and military leaders) would likely be [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII fighting among themselves]]. An episode from the second season (set in 1945) has the aircraft carrier Amagi supporting the Strike Witches in battle (in real life, the Amagi was a partially completed battle cruiser canceled under the conditions of the Washington Naval Treaty and was intended to be converted into a carrier, but was badly damaged in an earthquake and scrapped.)[[note]]This is all true, but there was another Amagi (Unryu class) built during World War II. It didn't have much of a war record, because the IJN was just about out of planes when it entered service.[[/note]]
17th May '16 7:48:36 PM Fireblood
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** While facing the realization that his actions have make nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.

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** While facing the realization that his actions have make made nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.
12th May '16 8:41:03 PM PaulA
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* There are several in Creator/KimNewman and Eugene Byrne's ''Back In The USSA'' series of short stories. Including one where a character comments that something was as strange as finding London Bridge in the Arizona desert.

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* There are several in Creator/KimNewman and Eugene Byrne's ''Back In The USSA'' ''Literature/BackInTheUSSA'' series of short stories. Including one where a character comments that something was as strange as finding London Bridge in the Arizona desert.
29th Apr '16 1:33:04 PM Doug86
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* Also very favorite in timelines from AlternateHistoryDotCom, like the Literature/ChaosTimeline and others.

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* Also very favorite in timelines from AlternateHistoryDotCom, Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom, like the Literature/ChaosTimeline and others.
22nd Feb '16 10:02:21 AM Plactus
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* ''Series/TheManInTheHighCastle'', which depicts an alternate history where the Axis won World War II and conquered the US:
** Confronting a mole in his unit, Obergruppenführer Smith notes he was "just following orders" from the real villain before pushing him off a ledge.
** While facing the realization that his actions have make nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.
7th Jan '16 11:12:21 AM thatother1dude
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', there are Troll versions of several actors like Creator/JohnCusack and Creator/WillSmith (star of ''[[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir The Thresh Prince of Bel-Air]]''), who are described are "universal constant".

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', there are Troll versions of several actors like Creator/JohnCusack and Creator/WillSmith (star of ''[[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir The Thresh Prince of Bel-Air]]''), who are described are as a "universal constant".
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