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18th Jun '17 10:32:31 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** Celebrating victory in Vietnam, the Comedian says that defeat would have "driven us crazy, y'know, as a country."

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** Celebrating victory in Vietnam, Vietnam (due to Dr. Manhattan), the Comedian says that defeat would have "driven us crazy, y'know, as a country."
8th May '17 6:47:02 AM Hossmeister
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* In ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'', the [[ShowWithinAShow novel-within-a-novel]] ''The Grasshopper Lies Heavy'' is alternate history about a world in which FDR wasn't assassinated. It turns out completely differently than in our timeline, but still with an Allied victory.

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* In ''Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle'', the [[ShowWithinAShow novel-within-a-novel]] ''The Grasshopper Lies Heavy'' is alternate history about a world in which FDR wasn't assassinated. It turns out completely differently than in our timeline, but still with an Allied victory. There are references to our version of history within the novel, such as the Nazis landing on the moon, naming their airports after leaders within the German-American Bund, and commercializing Concorde jets (which hadn't even been completely built when Literature/PhilipKDick wrote the novel!).



* ''Series/TheManInTheHighCastle'', which depicts an alternate history where the Axis won World War II and conquered the US:
** Confronting a mole in his unit, Obergruppenführer Smith notes he was "just following orders" from the real villain before pushing him off a ledge.
** While facing the realization that his actions have made nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.

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* ''Series/TheManInTheHighCastle'', which depicts an alternate history where the Axis won World War II and conquered the US:
** Confronting a mole in his unit, Obergruppenführer Smith notes he was "just following orders" from
US. While keeping the real villain before pushing him off allusions of [[Literature/TheManInTheHighCastle the novel]], the show introduces a ledge.
few new ones:
** While facing the realization that his actions have made nuclear war between Germany and Japan more likely instead of less, Tagomi asks his aide where he's from and learns he's from Nagasaki.
Nagasaki. [[spoiler: It turns out that his aide is from our timeline where [[UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed]], and he suffers from burns from the attacks. Later, the show introduces a Resistance member who suffered burns and scars from the Nazis having dropped an atomic bomb on Washington DC]].
** The show includes a reference to Operation Anthropoid, the successful plan to kill Reinhard Heydrich. Except, in our timeline, [[spoiler: the irony is that Heydrich ''orchestrates'' the assassination attempt, and the intended target is Obergruppenfuhrer Smith]].
30th Apr '17 7:56:02 AM OlmoJV
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* Near the ending of ''FanFic/TheVow'', the VillainousBSOD of [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 Lord Shen]] is given weight by having him skip the canon gloating he gives the [[BadassInDistress Furious Five]] about [[spoiler:Po's apparent death]] and his upcoming conquest. The fact that Shen himself acknowledges that he'd have relished in it otherwise shows how heartbroken he is after he [[spoiler:released his newlywed wife Lianne]].
13th Jan '17 10:43:36 PM BobSaget9
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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.

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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident [[http://bit.ly/2jP0pYA Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.
13th Jan '17 10:42:51 PM BobSaget9
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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/citroen_ds_incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.

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** An AllohistoricalAllusion that goes far enough to hurt suspension of disbelief is referred to as a [[http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/citroen_ds_incident php?id=alternate_history:citroen_ds_incident&s[]=citro%C3%ABn&s[]=ds&s[]=incident Citroën DS incident]], in reference to said car appearing in ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''.
25th Dec '16 1:24:28 PM Xtifr
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Compare to FlashSideways, where there's an actual in-universe reason for the cross-universe knowledge.
27th Oct '16 2:02:11 PM Naram-Sin
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** Early in 1914, two white characters attend a black boxing match. After watching one of the fighters absolutely destroy his opponent, one of them ponders how the winner would fare against a white boxer, before dismissing the idea of a mixed boxing league as ridiculous, both in the CSA and the USA. It's a very subtle way to inform the reader that Jack Johnson (who probably wasn't even born in this timeline) never had the chance to win the heavyweight championship.
8th Aug '16 8:12:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In one Italian Disney comic, MickeyMouse ends up in a parallel world where the Roman Empire never fell, though a lot of other things look like the late 20th century. As this alternate Earth has a science fiction genre, Mickey sets himself up as an author by repeating basic real world history as AlternateHistory. His first story of Columbus discovering America is severely edited, because "that's too unrealistic! It could never have happened that way!"

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* In one Italian Disney comic, MickeyMouse ends up in a parallel world where the Roman Empire never fell, though a lot of other things look like the late 20th century. As this alternate Earth has a science fiction genre, Mickey sets himself up as an author by repeating basic real world history as AlternateHistory. His first story of Columbus discovering America is severely edited, because "that's too unrealistic! It could never have happened that way!"way!" In this timeline, the Native Americans developed an empire of their own and discovered Europe first.
2nd Aug '16 6:46:13 AM JamesAustin
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* One of the earlier AlternateHistory works, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill's "If Lee Had Not Won The Battle of Gettysburg" in J.C. Squire's AlternateHistory collection ''If It Had Happened Otherwise'' (1929), used this as a framing device. Among the results if the Union had won, [[Creator/BenjaminDisraeli Disraeli]] might have become a Conservative and [[UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone Gladstone]] a Liberal, Robert E. Lee might not have abolished slavery but [[ValuesDissonance prevented Negro enfranchisement]], and a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI world war involving all the great powers]] might not have been averted.

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* One of the earlier AlternateHistory works, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill's "If Lee Had Not Won The Battle of Gettysburg" in J.C. Squire's AlternateHistory collection ''If It Had Happened Otherwise'' (1929), used this as a framing device. Among the results if the Union had won, [[Creator/BenjaminDisraeli [[UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli Disraeli]] might have become a Conservative and [[UsefulNotes/WilliamGladstone Gladstone]] a Liberal, Robert E. Lee might not have abolished slavery but [[ValuesDissonance prevented Negro enfranchisement]], and a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI world war involving all the great powers]] might not have been averted.
17th Jul '16 8:54:38 AM nombretomado
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/RobertRedford running against the incumbent Richard Nixon for the Presidency is met with derision, "This is still America! People don't want [[ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid a cowboy actor]] for president!" In 1985 when it was written, the President was UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, who previously had a career as a cowboy actor. (This is actually set up beautifully, because the newspaper headline being discussed says "RR to run for President?" It's only towards the end of the conversation you find out that RR is Creator/RobertRedford and not a certain other ex-cowboy actor.)

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/RobertRedford running against the incumbent Richard Nixon for the Presidency is met with derision, "This is still America! People don't want [[ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid [[Film/ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid a cowboy actor]] for president!" In 1985 when it was written, the President was UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, who previously had a career as a cowboy actor. (This is actually set up beautifully, because the newspaper headline being discussed says "RR to run for President?" It's only towards the end of the conversation you find out that RR is Creator/RobertRedford and not a certain other ex-cowboy actor.)
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