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5th Sep '16 10:43:37 PM dotchan
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* In ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', Mary, James' wife, was quite demanding and her mood swings only made her even more demanding. [[spoiler: Mary dying from a terminal illness understandably made her become all take and no give towards James, which also took a tool on his emotional being. In her final moments, Mary writes a letter to James and confesses that she had been incredibly selfish and wished she had been more supportive of him during her final days.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', Mary, James' wife, was quite demanding and her mood swings only made her even more demanding. [[spoiler: Mary dying from a terminal illness understandably made her become all take and no give towards James, which also took a tool toll on his emotional being. In her final moments, Mary writes a letter to James and confesses that she had been incredibly selfish and wished she had been more supportive of him during her final days.]]
2nd Aug '16 8:08:48 AM AdelePotter
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* ''Fanfic/TheVerySecretDiary'': Tom and Ginny's relationship is this, portrayed in the most disturbing manner in possible. Tom is the Taker, taking all of Ginny's life force and draining her of any free will and almost all sense of self, and Ginny, desperate for a friend, gives and gives and ''gives'', not realizing Tom's true nature until it's too late. Tom, however, paints himself as the selfless Giver who patiently listens to all of Ginny's problems and is always there for her, making Ginny feel like the selfish, abusive Taker who takes advantage of his kindness, further manipulating her.
1st Jun '16 4:38:53 PM Steven
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* In ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', Mary, James' wife, was quite demanding and her mood swings only made her even more demanding. [[spoiler: Mary dying from a terminal illness understandably made her become all take and no give towards James, which also took a tool on his emotional being. In her final moments, Mary writes a letter to James and confesses that she had been incredibly selfish and wished she had been more supportive of him during her final days.]]
21st May '16 11:32:54 PM Anddrix
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* Harley Quinn is like this to her beloved, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. She helps him with all his plans, breaks him out of Arkham over and over again, and always come back to him. DependingOnTheWriter, The Joker may give her nothing more in return than tolerance, or a bullet to the heart.

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* Harley Quinn is like this to her beloved, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.ComicBook/TheJoker. She helps him with all his plans, breaks him out of Arkham over and over again, and always come back to him. DependingOnTheWriter, The Joker may give her nothing more in return than tolerance, or a bullet to the heart.



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': Any relationship with Harley Quinn, where she will be ''The Giver''. She invokes this trope being the lover of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker and Poison Ivy's friend. Justified because those two are {{The Sociopath}}s and can only be ''The takers''. The truly ''disturbing'' thing about Harley is that she looks for this type of relationship (The Joker and Poison Ivy maybe could ''like'' Harley, but as {{The Sociopath}}s, they cannot ''truly care'' about her. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' we see that Harley has this type of relationship with her granddaughters.

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': Any relationship with Harley Quinn, where she will be ''The Giver''. She invokes this trope being the lover of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker and Poison Ivy's friend. Justified because those two are {{The Sociopath}}s and can only be ''The takers''. The truly ''disturbing'' thing about Harley is that she looks for this type of relationship (The Joker and Poison Ivy maybe could ''like'' Harley, but as {{The Sociopath}}s, they cannot ''truly care'' about her. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' we see that Harley has this type of relationship with her granddaughters.
19th May '16 8:06:12 AM merotoker
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* In ''Anime/SpiritedAway'', we have a case of the second variant with No Face as the Giver and Chihiro as the Taker. In the beginning, No Face helped Chihiro out and Chihiro gratefully accepted his help. But once Chihiro refused to accept one of his gifts after seeing how the other bath patrons were greedily accepting his gifts of gold without question, No Face [[AxeCrazy went a little crazy]], [[ImAHumanitarian ate some people]] and demanded that Chihiro be brought to him so she could accept his gifts.

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* In ''Anime/SpiritedAway'', we have a case of the second variant with No Face as the Giver and Chihiro as the Taker. In the beginning, No Face helped Chihiro out and Chihiro gratefully accepted his help. But once Chihiro refused to accept one of his gifts after seeing how the other bath patrons were greedily accepting his gifts of gold without question, No Face [[AxeCrazy [[AxCrazy went a little crazy]], [[ImAHumanitarian ate some people]] and demanded that Chihiro be brought to him so she could accept his gifts.



* This is what BigBad [[spoiler:Ajimu]] of ''Manga/MedakaBox'' says is the true nature of [[spoiler:Medaka and Zenkichi]]'s relationship. [[spoiler:Even after Zenkichi's unfailing devotion to her, all out of his love for her, she takes it for granted. Ajimu bluntly states he was not born to serve Medaka.]] This ultimately proves to have some truth to it when [[spoiler:Medaka berates and attacks Zenkichi for not being able to pass the first part of her test given to her possible successors. When Zenkichi confronts her to prove his point, she beats the tar out of him and berates him further to solidify him becoming her enemy just so she wasn't wrong in her assumptions can continue to see value in him.]]
** This also makes her seem even more of a JerkAss since when [[spoiler:Akune decides to join Zenkichi against Medaka she praises him instead of giving him the same treatment.]]

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* This is what BigBad [[spoiler:Ajimu]] of ''Manga/MedakaBox'' says is the true nature of [[spoiler:Medaka and Zenkichi]]'s relationship. [[spoiler:Even after Zenkichi's unfailing devotion to her, all out of his love for her, she takes it for granted. Ajimu bluntly states he was not born to serve Medaka.]] Medaka]]. This ultimately proves to have some truth to it when [[spoiler:Medaka berates and attacks Zenkichi for not being able to pass the first part of her test given to her possible successors. When Zenkichi confronts her to prove his point, she beats the tar out of him and berates him further to solidify him becoming her enemy just so she wasn't wrong in her assumptions can continue to see value in him.]]
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** This also makes her seem even more of a JerkAss since when [[spoiler:Akune decides to join Zenkichi against Medaka she praises him instead of giving him the same treatment.]]treatment]].



* ''Fanfic/TheOneILoveIs'': One of the reasons that [[spoiler:Shinji chose Asuka and not Rei]] was he knew their relationship would become this: she would make him the only goal of her existence, she would make anything for him without asking for anything in return and he would take everything. And it would not be fair to [[spoiler:Rei.]]

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* ''Fanfic/TheOneILoveIs'': One of the reasons that [[spoiler:Shinji chose Asuka and not Rei]] was he knew their relationship would become this: she would make him the only goal of her existence, she would make anything for him without asking for anything in return and he would take everything. And it would not be fair to [[spoiler:Rei.]][[spoiler:Rei]].



* The ExpandedUniverse for ''Franchise/StarWars'' reveals this to be the case for the H'nemthe species, as covered in passing in ''Literature/TalesFromTheMosEisleyCantina''. Due to the fact that there are 20 males for every female of the species, males literally give their females everything. Up to and including ''their lives'': H'nemthe females have elongated, razor-sharp tongues that they use to eviscerate the males after sex, whereupon they devour the corpse. Virgin females are vegetarians up until they lose their virginity -- whereupon they also lose their "vegetarian virginity" as well.

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* The ExpandedUniverse for ''Franchise/StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' reveals this to be the case for the H'nemthe species, as covered in passing in ''Literature/TalesFromTheMosEisleyCantina''. Due to the fact that there are 20 males for every female of the species, males literally give their females everything. Up to and including ''their lives'': H'nemthe females have elongated, razor-sharp tongues that they use to eviscerate the males after sex, whereupon they devour the corpse. Virgin females are vegetarians up until they lose their virginity -- whereupon they also lose their "vegetarian virginity" as well.



* In the second season of ''TrueBlood'', the maenad Maryann functions as the giver to the alcoholic, emotionally fragile Tara. She invites Tara to live in her mansion where she's pampered around the clock, under the guise of trying to help the girl turn her life around. [[spoiler:In reality, Maryann is trying to drive a wedge between Tara and her abusive mother so that she can control Tara's life herself, [[EmotionEater feeding off her anguish and rage]].]]

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* In the second season of ''TrueBlood'', ''Series/TrueBlood'', the maenad Maryann functions as the giver to the alcoholic, emotionally fragile Tara. She invites Tara to live in her mansion where she's pampered around the clock, under the guise of trying to help the girl turn her life around. [[spoiler:In reality, Maryann is trying to drive a wedge between Tara and her abusive mother so that she can control Tara's life herself, [[EmotionEater feeding off her anguish and rage]].]]



* The title character from ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' and John in the initial stages of their friendship. John is extremely tolerant of Sherlock, who makes no effort to be either easy to live with or particularly accommodating, despite John being willing to kill criminals and put his life on the line for Sherlock's sake. Ultimately averted, however, when [[spoiler:Sherlock allows the world to believe he is "a fake genius" and [[UndyingLoyalty stages his own suicide to safeguard John's and their other friends' lives]].]] John himself doesn't seem to believe this of their relationship, as stated by him during his [[spoiler:graveyard spiel following Sherlock's supposed death]]: "I was so alone, and I owe you so much." Understandable, as the very first episode hints that John sorely misses the thrill and danger of war, and that helping Sherlock with his cases gives him a sense of purpose and allows him to experience the excitement he craves.

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* The title character from ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'' and John in the initial stages of their friendship. John is extremely tolerant of Sherlock, who makes no effort to be either easy to live with or particularly accommodating, despite John being willing to kill criminals and put his life on the line for Sherlock's sake. Ultimately averted, however, when [[spoiler:Sherlock allows the world to believe he is "a fake genius" and [[UndyingLoyalty stages his own suicide to safeguard John's and their other friends' lives]].]] lives]]]]. John himself doesn't seem to believe this of their relationship, as stated by him during his [[spoiler:graveyard spiel following Sherlock's supposed death]]: "I was so alone, and I owe you so much." Understandable, as the very first episode hints that John sorely misses the thrill and danger of war, and that helping Sherlock with his cases gives him a sense of purpose and allows him to experience the excitement he craves.



** Many fans have accused Nina and Fabian's relationship to be like this, with Fabian putting in much more of the effort AND doing many dangerous things for Nina and sometimes not even getting so much of a thank you in return. Eventually averted, however, with [[spoiler:Nina putting on the mask of Anubis, willing to go to the Egyptian afterlife to spare her friends and her Grandmother from being cursed any longer.]]

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** Many fans have accused Nina and Fabian's relationship to be like this, with Fabian putting in much more of the effort AND doing many dangerous things for Nina and sometimes not even getting so much of a thank you in return. Eventually averted, however, with [[spoiler:Nina putting on the mask of Anubis, willing to go to the Egyptian afterlife to spare her friends and her Grandmother from being cursed any longer.]]longer]].



* Defied ''hard'' in the OingoBoingo song "Not My Slave". The narrator tries to talk the girl he loves out of her submissive tendencies, insisting she's not his property and that he just wants her to be happy...and that just because she's free doesn't mean he's abandoning her.

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* Defied ''hard'' in the OingoBoingo Music/OingoBoingo song "Not My Slave". The narrator tries to talk the girl he loves out of her submissive tendencies, insisting she's not his property and that he just wants her to be happy...and that just because she's free doesn't mean he's abandoning her.



* Sekai and Setsuna of ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' have this type of relationship, with Setsuna as the Giver and Sekai as the Taker. It isn't bad-intentioned on Sekai's part and she truly does see Setsuna as her best friend, but she also completely fails to consider Setsuna's feelings regarding her actions (like [[spoiler: taking the guy she had a crush on]]). It's largely Setsuna's fault as well, though; her only concern in life seems to be Sekai's happiness, and she is willing to steamroll over anyone and anything she has to in order to achieve this. The best examples of this are the lengths she goes to to keep Kotonoha away from Makoto even after learning that Sekai had lied to her about them previously breaking up, and when [[spoiler: she offers Makoto the chance to have sex with her if he promises to stay faithful to Sekai afterwards.]]

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* Sekai and Setsuna of ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' have this type of relationship, with Setsuna as the Giver and Sekai as the Taker. It isn't bad-intentioned on Sekai's part and she truly does see Setsuna as her best friend, but she also completely fails to consider Setsuna's feelings regarding her actions (like [[spoiler: taking the guy she had a crush on]]). It's largely Setsuna's fault as well, though; her only concern in life seems to be Sekai's happiness, and she is willing to steamroll over anyone and anything she has to in order to achieve this. The best examples of this are the lengths she goes to to keep Kotonoha away from Makoto even after learning that Sekai had lied to her about them previously breaking up, and when [[spoiler: she offers Makoto the chance to have sex with her if he promises to stay faithful to Sekai afterwards.]]afterwards]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', this is the relationship Eric Cartman and his mother have.
** And it works both ways, according to "Tsst!" - Cartman gets spoiled rotten, while his mother has a ready-made companion to do stuff she enjoys. A fact that [[JerkAss Cartman]] twists to his advantage at every opportunity.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', this is the relationship Eric Cartman and his mother have.
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have. And it works both ways, according to "Tsst!" - Cartman gets spoiled rotten, while his mother has a ready-made companion to do stuff she enjoys. A fact that [[JerkAss Cartman]] twists to his advantage at every opportunity.



* Patrick from ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' does this concerning stealing Spongebob's money and the toy he paid for. When Spongebob tries to protest, Patrick just says meanly "Have you learning nothing from sharing?" His remark meant that he believed sharing meant that Spongebob pays for everything and Patrick takes everything.

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* Patrick from ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' does this concerning stealing Spongebob's [=SpongeBob=]'s money and the toy he paid for. When Spongebob [=SpongeBob=] tries to protest, Patrick just says meanly "Have you learning nothing from sharing?" His remark meant that he believed sharing meant that Spongebob [=SpongeBob=] pays for everything and Patrick takes everything.



* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Bill manages to talk Dipper into a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] by pointing out that he constantly sacrifices for Mabel and she never extends the same courtesy to him. Indeed, even after Bill [[spoiler: steals Dipper's body]], Mabel's still more concerned about putting on her puppet show then helping him. Fortunately, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Bill wasn't expecting]] Mabel to move past this.
** And she [[spoiler:still hasn't, as she suffered from a AesopAmnesia almost immediately afterwards, something that is actually beginning to be deconstructed in and of itself.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', Bill manages to talk Dipper into a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] by pointing out that he constantly sacrifices for Mabel and she never extends the same courtesy to him. Indeed, even after Bill [[spoiler: steals Dipper's body]], Mabel's still more concerned about putting on her puppet show then helping him. Fortunately, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Bill wasn't expecting]] Mabel to move past this.
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this. And she [[spoiler:still hasn't, as she suffered from a AesopAmnesia almost immediately afterwards, something that is actually beginning to be deconstructed in and of itself.]]itself]].
16th Apr '16 9:35:52 AM azul120
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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' has Lelouch masterfully manipulating Rolo into being a Giver. Poor Rolo thought someone actually liked him. Of course, being both a [[ReplacementGoldfish fake replacement sibling]] ''and'' an assassin ordered to kill Lelouch if he was shown to have his memories regained did not endear him. And once [[spoiler:Rolo killed Shirley in cold blood]], Lelouch pretty much tried to get rid of him as payback. Until, ironically enough, [[spoiler:Rolo saved his life [[RedemptionEqualsDeath at the cost of his own]]]].

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* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' has Lelouch masterfully manipulating Rolo into being a Giver. Poor Rolo thought someone actually liked him. Of course, being both a [[ReplacementGoldfish fake replacement sibling]] ''and'' an assassin ordered to kill Lelouch if he was shown to have his memories regained did not endear him. Also, Rolo had become the manipulative type of Giver, to the point he wanted Lelouch as his brother to the point where he would forget Nunnally. And once [[spoiler:Rolo killed Shirley in cold blood]], Lelouch pretty much tried to get rid of him as payback. Until, ironically enough, [[spoiler:Rolo saved his life [[RedemptionEqualsDeath at the cost of his own]]]].



* In ''Manga/DeathNote'', MagnificentBastard {{Light|IsNotGood}} [[SerialKiller Yagami]] and his girlfriend/co-conspirator [[MadLove Misa]] are like this; Light is a manipulative ConsummateLiar who takes advantage of Misa's mental instability and desperation for support to make her both his most dangerous pawn and his lover - in his defense, though, it wasn't as if she [[{{Yandere}} gave him much of a choice]]. This results in a relationship where Light plays with her life, like everyone else's, while she is gradually consumed by her obsession with him, despite his total lack of affection toward her. It culminates in [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide her death]]]].

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* In ''Manga/DeathNote'', MagnificentBastard {{Light|IsNotGood}} [[SerialKiller Yagami]] and his girlfriend/co-conspirator [[MadLove Misa]] are like this; Light is a manipulative ConsummateLiar who takes advantage of Misa's mental instability and desperation for support to make her both his most dangerous pawn and his lover - in his defense, though, it wasn't as if she [[{{Yandere}} gave him much of a choice]]. This results in a relationship where Light plays with her life, like everyone else's, while she is gradually consumed by her obsession with him, despite his total lack of affection toward her. It culminates in [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide [[spoiler:[[DrivenToSuicide her death]]]].
2nd Apr '16 10:21:49 PM GrammarNavi
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* The Barone family are a seemingly dysfunctional example of this dynamic in ''EverybodyLovesRaymond''. [[JewishMother Matriarch]] Marie Barone controls her adult family by seemingly eternal giving - of food, comforts, domestic help - which serves to keep her husband and sons as dependent man-children who are forever bound to her in a web of obligation. She also uses her giving streak to minimise and diminish her two daughters-in-law. But neither her husband nor her sons can resist taking.

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* The Barone family are a seemingly dysfunctional example of this dynamic in ''EverybodyLovesRaymond''.''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''. [[JewishMother Matriarch]] Marie Barone controls her adult family by seemingly eternal giving - of food, comforts, domestic help - which serves to keep her husband and sons as dependent man-children who are forever bound to her in a web of obligation. She also uses her giving streak to minimise and diminish her two daughters-in-law. But neither her husband nor her sons can resist taking.
19th Mar '16 3:55:03 AM Hossmeister
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2nd Feb '16 11:50:17 AM Spindriver
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The middle ground is akin to TheMasochismTango, both the Giver and the Taker are in a deeply co-dependent relationship they can't break out of. Maybe they're a Sugar Daddy and a shop happy floozy, a parent who can't stand to say "no" and an emotionally needy SpoiledBrat, or an indulgent monarch raising a RoyalBrat. In all variations, both participants will be unwilling or unable to leave, change or even identify the relationship.

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The middle ground is akin to TheMasochismTango, both the Giver and the Taker are in a deeply co-dependent relationship they can't break out of. Maybe they're a Sugar Daddy SugarDaddy and a shop happy floozy, [[GoldDigger shop-happy floozy]], a parent who can't stand to say "no" and an emotionally needy SpoiledBrat, or an indulgent monarch raising a RoyalBrat. In all variations, both participants will be unwilling or unable to leave, change or even identify the relationship.
29th Nov '15 10:34:52 PM jewishenjolras
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* Literature/TheSecretHistory provides a perfect example of the first variant, with Charles as the Taker and Francis as the Giver.

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* Literature/TheSecretHistory ''Literature/TheSecretHistory'' provides a perfect example of the first variant, with Charles as the Taker and Francis as the Giver.
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