History Main / AllGermansAreNazis

7th Feb '16 5:18:48 PM Gideoncrawle
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Wiki policy is that aversions are not noteworthy except for those very few tropes and genres where aversions are rare enough to stand out. If a series of related works plays a trope straight at first, aversions in later installments might be noteworthy. "Beautifully averted" is Word Cruft, and an editorial opinion into the bargain. "Played partly straight" is not valid wiki terminology; it implies the trope is being played with in some way, so identify the "playing with" type.
* Averted in ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' and ''Film/TheLifeAndDeathOfColonelBlimp'', two movies made during World War II, which have characters who are German refugees opposed to Nazism.

* Averted in ''Film/{{Watchmen}}''- German-born Adrian Veidt actually uses "practically a Nazi" as an insult toward another character. [[spoiler:But then again, Veidt's father ''was'' a Nazi, and this is why Veidt himself ends up committing mass murder on a grand scale - not because he absorbed his father's beliefs, but because he felt a great deal of family guilt due to his father's associations with the Nazi party and felt that he had to save the world himself to make up for it. And by his standards, saving the world meant killing enough people to scare the survivors out of nuclear war.]]

* Averted in ''Film/BeerFest'' where every conceivable German stereotype except Nazism is represented by the opposing team. Although the scenes where they take someone to the back, and we hear a gunshot without any of the Germans so much as looking in that direction, does kinda smell of Nazism (or Stalinism). * Notably averted in Creator/SamPeckinpah's 1977 movie ''Film/CrossOfIron''. Unlike most English-language WWII movies, this one actually depicts the war from the point of view of the German army, featuring German soldiers who are not particularly fond of either the war or the Nazi Party. Even though it's directed by Peckinpah and stars the American actor Creator/JamesCoburn (as a Wehrmacht corporal), ''Cross of Iron'' was an Anglo-German production based on a German novel, which might explain why its depiction of Wehrmacht soldiers goes far beyond two-dimensional Nazi stereotypes.

** Averted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''. Nazis/Hitler are only mentioned a few times and the main conflict is against the Red Skull and HYDRA, who broke off from the Nazis early on in the movie (although not that they are much better). Additionally, German-born scientist Dr. Erskine works with the Allies and develops the supersoldier serum. Later he tells Steve that a lot of people forget the first country to be invaded and fall victim to the Nazis was, in fact, Germany. ** Beautifully averted in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' when Loki stands before a crowd in Germany and attempts to [[KneelBeforeZod cow the humans there into submission]]. An older German man stands up to defy him, and [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler the parallels]] are pretty obvious. -->'''Loki:''' There are no men like me.\\ '''Old Man:''' There are ''always'' men like you. * Averted in ''Literature/TheReader'', where most of the characters are Germans born ''after'' the war and thus couldn't have been Nazis; in fact, as Schlink has Michael point out in the novel, the younger generation's willingness to come to terms with the past became a major cause of the generation gap in 1960s West Germany: -->[W]e explored it, subjected it to trial by daylight, and condemned it to shame ... We all condemned our parents to shame, even if the only charge we could bring was that after 1945 they had tolerated the perpetrators in their midst.

* Creator/MatthewReilly's books largely avert this. Plenty of German characters, few Nazis. ''Temple'' has Neo-Nazis, but it also has members of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesnachrichtendienst German's intelligence agency]] opposing the Nazis. * Played partly straight in Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''Literature/{{Worldwar}}'' series. Many non-German characters refer to Germans as Nazis or "Nazi bastards". Despite some Germans clearly having issues with the official policy of the Reich, they never try to explain that they're ''not'' Nazis. [[LizardFolk The Race]], who don't care one way or another, just call all Germans "Deutsche".
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* Creator/MatthewReilly's books largely avert this. Plenty of German characters, few Nazis. ''Temple'' has Neo-Nazis, but it also has members of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesnachrichtendienst German's intelligence agency]] opposing the Nazis. * Played partly straight {{Downplayed|Trope}} in Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''Literature/{{Worldwar}}'' series. Many non-German characters refer to Germans as Nazis or "Nazi bastards". Despite some Germans clearly having issues with the official policy of the Reich, they never try to explain that they're ''not'' Nazis. [[LizardFolk The Race]], who don't care one way or another, just call all Germans "Deutsche".

* ''[[Literature/TheCenturyTrilogy Winter of the World]]'' averts this. One of the main plot lines is the struggle of the [[TheVonTropeFamily von Ulrich family]] (whose political ideology of choice is social democracy) and their friends, living in Berlin during the times of UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. * Averted in Manning Coles' ''A Toast to Tomorrow'' in which post-Depression Germany as a whole is depicted as mostly ordinary joes just trying to get along.

* Averted in ''Series/HogansHeroes'', which actually takes place in Nazi Germany. Many members of the Underground are Germans, or at least more sympathetic to Hogan's crew than they are to the Nazis and the Gestapo. Schultz doesn't particularly care who wins the war, as long as he doesn't get shot or sent to the Eastern Front, and several of the actual officers are portrayed as sympathetic characters stuck in bad positions.

* Averted in ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein|2009}}''. While the rest of the games are primarily about eradicating Hitler and his many minions, the 2009 release finally shows you another side. You do kill tons of Nazis in the game, but most of your allies are German resistance fighters.
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* Averted in ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein|2009}}''.''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein|2009}}'', after having been played straight in previous incarnations. While the rest of the games are primarily about eradicating Hitler and his many minions, the 2009 release finally shows you another side. You do kill tons of Nazis in the game, but most of your allies are German resistance fighters.

* Averted in ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Though the Medic is a bloodthirsty, sadistic [[HerrDoktor German doctor]] from just the right time period, he has been confirmed to not be [[EvenEvilHasStandards a Nazi]].

* Unlike many HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct stories, ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' completely averts this -- removing Hitler in 1924 ''works'', and is enough to save Germany from the worst excesses of expansionism, militarism and racism. By the time of the second Great War[[note]]Some time in the early 50s/late 40s, probably. The game doesn't really say when it takes place, although the weight of evidence points to the war being later than ''our'' World War II[[/note]], they are a staunch and leading member of the western alliance system.

* ''Webcomic/ScandinaviaAndTheWorld'' averts this trope in an interesting way. Nazi Germany and Modern Germany seem to be two separate entities (as opposed to the latter being simply the former after a very thorough makeover), evidenced by the fact that they both can appear in the [[http://satwcomic.com/bully-fail same comic]]. (Wherein Modern Germany is outright terrified of his fascist counterpart.)
3rd Feb '16 2:44:07 PM Luigifan
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Even if the JustFollowingOrders excuse might not excuse people of the acts of stealing from, torturing, (sexually) assaulting, and/or murdering other people whilst working for the Nazis that does not mean that those people ''were'' Nazis and agreed with their entire political agenda. The costs of opposing or even just refusing to support them were ''very'' high, not just because you could be killed on the spot (in 1944-45) but also because you could be imprisoned or fired or passed-over for promotion (1933-45). One must also remember the handful of heroic figures like [[Film/SchindlersList Oskar Schindler]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Plagge Karl Plagge]] who ''were members of'' the Nazi party and publicly supported it, but worked against it in secret. There is also the bizarre case of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe John Rabe]] and the Nanjing Nazis under his leadership, who saved tens of thousands of Chinese people during the [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Rape of Nanjing]] ''in the name of Hitler and the Nazi Party''. Rabe had no authority from Hitler to do this. He was acting on his own initiative, his correct belief that this was expected of a decent person, and his mistaken belief that Hitler was a decent person.
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Even if the JustFollowingOrders excuse might not excuse people of the acts of stealing from, torturing, (sexually) assaulting, and/or murdering other people whilst working for the Nazis Nazis, that does not mean that those people ''were'' Nazis and agreed with their entire political agenda. The costs of opposing or even just refusing to support them were ''very'' high, not just because you could be killed on the spot (in 1944-45) 1944-45), but also because you could be imprisoned or fired or passed-over for promotion (1933-45). One must also remember the handful of heroic figures like [[Film/SchindlersList Oskar Schindler]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Plagge Karl Plagge]] who ''were members of'' the Nazi party and publicly supported it, but worked against it in secret. There is also the bizarre case of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe John Rabe]] and the Nanjing Nazis under his leadership, who saved tens of thousands of Chinese people during the [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Rape of Nanjing]] ''in the name of Hitler and the Nazi Party''. Rabe had no authority from Hitler to do this. He was acting on his own initiative, his correct belief that this was expected of a decent person, and his mistaken belief that Hitler was a decent person.

It is especially prevalent in Eastern Europe, since the last time German soldiers did pay the place a visit they tried to kill off a quarter of them (under the ''Hungerplan'') as the prelude to replacing them all with Germans (''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost Generalplan Ost]]'' and various other schemes) - and very nearly fulfilled the former goal (35+m killed of a target of 40+). In fact, one may even find that what a native of Eastern Europe would sooner find questionable, is a deliberate aversion or inversion -- the notion that Germans weren't Nazis could be ([[AmericansHateTingle and has been]]) taken as an attempt to shift the blame, whether onto non-German allies, or even (on the logic that Germans were themselves victims) the Nazis themselves. As if the basic trope wasn't bad enough.
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It is especially prevalent in Eastern Europe, since the last time German soldiers did pay the place a visit visit, they tried to kill off a quarter of them (under the ''Hungerplan'') as the prelude to replacing them all with Germans (''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost Generalplan Ost]]'' and various other schemes) - and very nearly fulfilled the former goal (35+m killed of a target of 40+). In fact, one may even find that what a native of Eastern Europe would sooner find questionable, is a deliberate aversion or inversion -- the notion that Germans weren't Nazis could be ([[AmericansHateTingle and has been]]) taken as an attempt to shift the blame, whether onto non-German allies, or even (on the logic that Germans were themselves victims) the Nazis themselves. As if the basic trope wasn't bad enough.
13th Jan '16 12:53:35 AM MarqFJA
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It is especially prevalent in Eastern Europe, since the last time German soldiers did pay the place a visit they tried to kill off a quarter of them (under the ''Hungerplan'') as the prelude to replacing them all with Germans (''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost Generalplan Ost]]'' and various other schemes) - and very nearly fulfilled the former goal (35+mkilled of a target of 40+). In fact, one may even find that what a native of Eastern Europe would sooner find questionable, is a deliberate aversion or inversion -- the notion that Germans weren't Nazis could be ([[AmericansHateTingle and has been]]) taken as an attempt to shift the blame, whether onto non-German allies, or even (on the logic that Germans were themselves victims) the Nazis themselves. As if the basic trope wasn't bad enough.
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It is especially prevalent in Eastern Europe, since the last time German soldiers did pay the place a visit they tried to kill off a quarter of them (under the ''Hungerplan'') as the prelude to replacing them all with Germans (''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost Generalplan Ost]]'' and various other schemes) - and very nearly fulfilled the former goal (35+mkilled (35+m killed of a target of 40+). In fact, one may even find that what a native of Eastern Europe would sooner find questionable, is a deliberate aversion or inversion -- the notion that Germans weren't Nazis could be ([[AmericansHateTingle and has been]]) taken as an attempt to shift the blame, whether onto non-German allies, or even (on the logic that Germans were themselves victims) the Nazis themselves. As if the basic trope wasn't bad enough.
11th Dec '15 9:39:25 AM merotoker
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}'' with Greta Gravity. She is a villain, and she is German [[note]]Well, actually German-Brazilian, but she shows of her German heritage quite proudly by playing up the {{Oktoberfest}} stereotype.[[/note]], but she is ''not'' a Nazi, which becomes evident when she and Dr. Universe have to interact with the NaziGrandpa Kugelblitz and TheDragon/{{Elite Mook|s}} Maus, who plan to [[YouClonedHitler clone Hitler]] in order to establish the Fourth Reich. Dr. Universe even points out this trope's fallacy in the end:
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}'' with Greta Gravity. She is a villain, and she is German [[note]]Well, actually German-Brazilian, but she shows of her German heritage quite proudly by playing up the {{Oktoberfest}} stereotype.[[/note]], but she is ''not'' a Nazi, which becomes evident when she and Dr. Universe have to interact with the NaziGrandpa Kugelblitz and TheDragon/{{Elite TheDragon[=/=]{{Elite Mook|s}} Maus, who plan to [[YouClonedHitler clone Hitler]] in order to establish the Fourth Reich. Dr. Universe even points out this trope's fallacy in the end:
11th Dec '15 9:36:49 AM merotoker
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* A ZigZagged trope in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi]]. But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people]]. However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]] * Johann Schmidt, AKA ComicBook/RedSkull, served as a former member of the Nazi Party during World War II in the Captain America comics and also pretty much every single medium (except the 1990 movie, where he was an Italian fascist whose only involvement with the German Nazis is his partaking in the Ubermensch project.) ** Subverted in the 2011 movie CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger. Johann Schmidt was never a Nazi but served Hitler in exchange for resources to fund his research. When Hitler became impatient with Schmidt's apparent lack of progress and cut off his funding, Schmidt instantly turned against Hitler and murdered his Nazi superiors; in fact, he was all along planning to destroy Berlin alongside other "hostile" capitals.
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* A ZigZagged trope ZigZaggingTrope in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi]]. But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people]]. However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]] refuses]]. * Johann Schmidt, AKA ComicBook/RedSkull, served as a former member of the Nazi Party during World War II in the Captain America Comicbook/CaptainAmerica comics and also pretty much every single medium (except the 1990 movie, where he was an Italian fascist whose only involvement with the German Nazis is his partaking in the Ubermensch project.) ** ) Subverted in the 2011 movie CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger.''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger''. Johann Schmidt was never a Nazi but served Hitler in exchange for resources to fund his research. When Hitler became impatient with Schmidt's apparent lack of progress and cut off his funding, Schmidt instantly turned against Hitler and murdered his Nazi superiors; in fact, he was all along planning to destroy Berlin alongside other "hostile" capitals.

* ''Film/TopSecret'': PlayedForLaughs, with [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] in EastGermany fighting the [[LaResistance French resistance]].
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* ''Film/TopSecret'': PlayedForLaughs, with [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] in EastGermany UsefulNotes/EastGermany fighting the [[LaResistance French resistance]].

* Spoofed in ''Film/TheBigLebowski'', where the evil German {{Ni|etzscheWannabe}}hilists have many aspects of ThoseWackyNazis, but as the Dude points out, aren't Nazis.
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* Spoofed in ''Film/TheBigLebowski'', where the evil German {{Ni|etzscheWannabe}}hilists [[StrawNihilist Nihilists]] have many aspects of ThoseWackyNazis, but as the Dude points out, aren't Nazis.

* Averted in ''Film/BeerFest'' where every conceivable German stereotype except Nazism is represented by the opposing team. ** The scenes where they take someone to the back, and we hear a gunshot without any of the Germans so much as looking in that direction, does kinda smell of Nazism (or Stalinism).
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* Averted in ''Film/BeerFest'' where every conceivable German stereotype except Nazism is represented by the opposing team. ** The team. Although the scenes where they take someone to the back, and we hear a gunshot without any of the Germans so much as looking in that direction, does kinda smell of Nazism (or Stalinism).

* The Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures feature a character called Fitz Kreiner, who, being half-German on his ExtremeDoormat father's side, had an especially shitty childhood even by the standards of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the era he grew up in]]. In what may be an example which tries to disprove the rule, he's forced to impersonate a Nazi at one point and it's an especially bad day for him in [[TheChewToy a lifetime of mostly bad days]]. There's also one book, ''The Year of Intelligent Tigers'', which takes place on a future Earth colony whose dominant culture is a mixture of German and Middle Eastern. It's a nice place... [[spoiler:if you ignore the oppressed {{t|alkingAnimal}}igers. Also, the [[BewareTheNiceOnes surprisingly frightening]] OneShotCharacter, because a mass-murdering German/Iranian bloke is ''[[UnfortunateImplications certainly]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications not potentially offensive at all]].]]
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* The Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures feature a character called Fitz Kreiner, who, being half-German on his ExtremeDoormat father's side, had an especially shitty childhood even by the standards of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the era he grew up in]]. In what may be an example which tries to disprove the rule, he's forced to impersonate a Nazi at one point and it's an especially bad day for him in [[TheChewToy a lifetime of mostly bad days]]. There's also one book, ''The Year of Intelligent Tigers'', which takes place on a future Earth colony whose dominant culture is a mixture of German and Middle Eastern. It's a nice place... [[spoiler:if you ignore the oppressed {{t|alkingAnimal}}igers. Also, the [[BewareTheNiceOnes surprisingly frightening]] OneShotCharacter, because a mass-murdering German/Iranian bloke is ''[[UnfortunateImplications certainly]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications not potentially offensive at all]].]]all]]]].

* A pre-1945 example in ''Literature/TheKnightsOfTheCross'' - the villains are TheTeutonicKnights, who act very, very prussian and evil.
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* A pre-1945 example in ''Literature/TheKnightsOfTheCross'' - the villains are TheTeutonicKnights, UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights, who act very, very prussian and evil.

* In ''TheSaboteur'', one of the missions Sean does is rescue a spy for the people fighting against the Nazis. It later turns out said spy is a full blooded German who is using his skills to help take down the Nazis. Sean invokes this trope by asking why he is fighting against his people, which the man replies that they are not his people, finding their actions despicable, and is tired of everyone stereotyping every German as so.
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* In ''TheSaboteur'', ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur'', one of the missions Sean does is rescue a spy for the people fighting against the Nazis. It later turns out said spy is a full blooded German who is using his skills to help take down the Nazis. Sean invokes this trope by asking why he is fighting against his people, which the man replies that they are not his people, finding their actions despicable, and is tired of everyone stereotyping every German as so.

* A ZigZaggedTrope in the ''Webcomic/{{Polandball}}'' universe. Germany is the main source of Nazi-related jokes, yet he doesn't like being reminded of his past. [[http://i.imgur.com/era5tb9.png Constant Reminders]] is an great example of the ''other'' countryballs applying this trope to him, with NeverLiveItDown being invoked in full force.
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* A ZigZaggedTrope ZigZaggingTrope in the ''Webcomic/{{Polandball}}'' universe. Germany is the main source of Nazi-related jokes, yet he doesn't like being reminded of his past. [[http://i.imgur.com/era5tb9.png Constant Reminders]] is an great example of the ''other'' countryballs applying this trope to him, with NeverLiveItDown being invoked in full force.

* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}'' with Greta Gravity. She is a villain, and she is German [[note]]Well, actually German-Brazilian, but she shows of her German heritage quite proudly by playing up the {{Oktoberfest}} stereotype.[[/note]], but she is ''not'' a Nazi, which becomes evident when she and Dr. Universe have to interact with the NaziGrandpa Kugelblitz and TheDragon/EliteMook Maus, who plan to [[YouClonedHitler clone Hitler]] in order to establish the Fourth Reich. Dr. Universe even points out this trope's fallacy in the end:
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}'' with Greta Gravity. She is a villain, and she is German [[note]]Well, actually German-Brazilian, but she shows of her German heritage quite proudly by playing up the {{Oktoberfest}} stereotype.[[/note]], but she is ''not'' a Nazi, which becomes evident when she and Dr. Universe have to interact with the NaziGrandpa Kugelblitz and TheDragon/EliteMook TheDragon/{{Elite Mook|s}} Maus, who plan to [[YouClonedHitler clone Hitler]] in order to establish the Fourth Reich. Dr. Universe even points out this trope's fallacy in the end:

* Used as a joke on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''. At an international food festival, the German booth takes over the Polish booth and starts eying the Czech one (of course, it should've been the other way around). Also, when Stewie and Brian tour Munich: -->'''Tour Guide:''' Besides its beautiful historic architecture, Munich was the home of many great writers, such as Thomas Mann. You will find more on Germany's contribution to the arts in the pamphlets we have provided. -->'''Brian:''' Yeah, uh, about the pamphlets, I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945. There's just a big gap. -->'''Tour Guide:'''(after some arguing about with Brian he shouts:) [[http://odanad.blogspot.com/2005/03/family-guy-hahaha.html EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!]] On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15--
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* Used as a joke on ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''. ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''. ** At an international food festival, the German booth takes over the Polish booth and starts eying the Czech one (of course, it should've been the other way around). Also, when around). ** When Stewie and Brian tour Munich: -->'''Tour --->'''Tour Guide:''' Besides its beautiful historic architecture, Munich was the home of many great writers, such as Thomas Mann. You will find more on Germany's contribution to the arts in the pamphlets we have provided. -->'''Brian:''' --->'''Brian:''' Yeah, uh, about the pamphlets, I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945. There's just a big gap. -->'''Tour Guide:'''(after --->'''Tour Guide:''' (after some arguing about with Brian he shouts:) [[http://odanad.blogspot.com/2005/03/family-guy-hahaha.html EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!]] On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15--

** Inverted in the Cape Feare episode when Sideshow Bob is questioned by the parole board about the tattoo on his chest [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkzdn2TDuI]]
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** Inverted in the Cape Feare episode when Sideshow Bob is questioned by the parole board about the tattoo on his chest [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkzdn2TDuI]]chest.

** In "Treehouse Of Horror XI" Kaiser Wilhelm is described as being "the most evil German of them all." *** This is something of a GeniusBonus - after all, Hitler wasn't German.
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** In "Treehouse Of Horror XI" Kaiser Wilhelm is described as being "the most evil German of them all." *** " This is something of a GeniusBonus - after all, Hitler wasn't German.

* In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' TimeTravel episode "The Savage Time", Wonder Woman (who has been sent back to 1942 with most of the remaining league) helps an American secret agent rescue an undercover spy and crypto agent from a nazi prison. The spy turns out to be a native German working against the nazi regime.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' TimeTravel episode "The "[[Recap/JusticeLeagueS1E24To26TheSavageTime The Savage Time", Time]]", Wonder Woman (who has been sent back to 1942 with most of the remaining league) helps an American secret agent rescue an undercover spy and crypto agent from a nazi Nazi prison. The spy turns out to be a native German working against the nazi regime.Nazi regime. -->'''Wonder Woman''': You're German? -->'''Spy''': Believe me, we're not ''all'' like that.

* [[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nazi-ss-cemetery-desecrated-by-prosemitic-graffiti,520/ This]] Website/TheOnion article.
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* [[http://www.theonion.com/articles/nazi-ss-cemetery-desecrated-by-prosemitic-graffiti,520/ This]] Website/TheOnion article.article from Website/TheOnion.

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5th Dec '15 8:33:33 PM Angeldeb82
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What happens when ThoseWackyNazis is [[NeverLiveItDown too good a stereotype to be confined to period settings.]] Even though UsefulNotes/WorldWarII is long past, the ugly shadow of Nazism endures, and inevitably colors perceptions of the German people. So, in many post-1945 settings (and {{Fantasy Counterpart Culture}}s), German characters will display gratuitous Nazi traits like goose-stepping or greeting their leader with a Roman salute, sometimes when they otherwise have nothing to do with UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. Note that much of this is actually [[NoSwastikas banned]] in RealLife modern Germany.
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What happens when ThoseWackyNazis is [[NeverLiveItDown too good a stereotype to be confined to period settings.]] settings]]. Even though UsefulNotes/WorldWarII is long past, the ugly shadow of Nazism endures, and inevitably colors perceptions of the German people. So, in many post-1945 settings (and {{Fantasy Counterpart Culture}}s), German characters will display gratuitous Nazi traits like goose-stepping or greeting their leader with a Roman salute, sometimes when they otherwise have nothing to do with UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. Note that much of this is actually [[NoSwastikas banned]] in RealLife modern Germany.

* Subverted in the board game ''Tannhäuser''. Even though "The Reich" is [[PuttingOnTheReich based on the Nazis stylistically]] (tons of leather, a blond-haired/blue-eyed, whip-toting ''FemmeFatale'' as one of the playable characters, and [[{{Ghostapo}} an obsession with the occult]]), the game actually takes place in an alternate history where UsefulNotes/{{WWI}} has been going strong for 35 years, UsefulNotes/{{WWII}} never took place and the Nazis never existed.
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* Subverted in the board game ''Tannhäuser''. Even though "The Reich" is [[PuttingOnTheReich based on the Nazis stylistically]] (tons of leather, a blond-haired/blue-eyed, whip-toting ''FemmeFatale'' as one of the playable characters, and [[{{Ghostapo}} an obsession with the occult]]), the game actually takes place in an alternate history where UsefulNotes/{{WWI}} UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarI}}WI has been going strong for 35 years, UsefulNotes/{{WWII}} UsefulNotes/{{W|orldWarII}}WII never took place and the Nazis never existed.

* A ZigZagged trope in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi.]] But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people.]] However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]]
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* A ZigZagged trope in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi.]] Nazi]]. But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people.]] people]]. However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]]

* Spoofed in ''Film/TheBigLebowski'', where the evil German [[NietzscheWannabe Nihilists]] have many aspects of ThoseWackyNazis, but as the Dude points out, aren't Nazis.
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* Spoofed in ''Film/TheBigLebowski'', where the evil German [[NietzscheWannabe Nihilists]] {{Ni|etzscheWannabe}}hilists have many aspects of ThoseWackyNazis, but as the Dude points out, aren't Nazis.

* The Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures feature a character called Fitz Kreiner, who, being half-German on his ExtremeDoormat father's side, had an especially shitty childhood even by the standards of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the era he grew up in]]. In what may be an example which tries to disprove the rule, he's forced to impersonate a Nazi at one point and it's an especially bad day for him in [[TheChewToy a lifetime of mostly bad days]]. There's also one book, ''The Year of Intelligent Tigers'', which takes place on a future Earth colony whose dominant culture is a mixture of German and Middle Eastern. It's a nice place... [[spoiler:if you ignore the oppressed [[TalkingAnimal tigers]]. Also, the [[BewareTheNiceOnes surprisingly frightening]] OneShotCharacter, because a mass-murdering German/Iranian bloke is [[UnfortunateImplications ''certainly'' not potentially offensive at all]].]]
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* The Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures feature a character called Fitz Kreiner, who, being half-German on his ExtremeDoormat father's side, had an especially shitty childhood even by the standards of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the era he grew up in]]. In what may be an example which tries to disprove the rule, he's forced to impersonate a Nazi at one point and it's an especially bad day for him in [[TheChewToy a lifetime of mostly bad days]]. There's also one book, ''The Year of Intelligent Tigers'', which takes place on a future Earth colony whose dominant culture is a mixture of German and Middle Eastern. It's a nice place... [[spoiler:if you ignore the oppressed [[TalkingAnimal tigers]]. {{t|alkingAnimal}}igers. Also, the [[BewareTheNiceOnes surprisingly frightening]] OneShotCharacter, because a mass-murdering German/Iranian bloke is ''[[UnfortunateImplications certainly]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications ''certainly'' not potentially offensive at all]].]]

* Dwight Schrute from ''[[Series/TheOfficeUS The Office]]'' is clearly from a German background (possibly by way of Amish or some other German group from rural Pennsylvania). As a result, there's the occasional joke about a grandfather in [[ArgentinaIsNaziland Argentina]] he can't visit without protests from the Shoah Foundation.
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* Dwight Schrute from ''[[Series/TheOfficeUS The Office]]'' ''Series/{{The Office|US}}'' is clearly from a German background (possibly by way of Amish or some other German group from rural Pennsylvania). As a result, there's the occasional joke about a grandfather in [[ArgentinaIsNaziland Argentina]] {{Argentina|IsNaziland}} he can't visit without protests from the Shoah Foundation.

** A review of their album "Mutter" is the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] of the subtrope MusicToInvadePolandTo.
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** A review of their album "Mutter" is the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] {{Trope Namer|s}} of the subtrope MusicToInvadePolandTo.

* In ''Radio/TheUnbelievableTruth'', German comedian Henning Wehn is resigned to the fact that this will come up ''at least'' OnceAnEpisode, and occasionally times how long it takes.
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* In ''Radio/TheUnbelievableTruth'', German comedian Henning Wehn is resigned to the fact that this will come up ''at least'' OnceAnEpisode, OncePerEpisode, and occasionally times how long it takes.

* A localization-induced example in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series: the perfection-obsessed, [[AmoralAttorney corrupt]] von Karma family are German in the English translation. In the original Japanese script they were American. [[EagleLand Which is an entirely different stereotype]], but whatever.
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* A localization-induced example in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series: the perfection-obsessed, [[AmoralAttorney corrupt]] von Karma family are German in the English translation. In the original Japanese script they were American. [[EagleLand [[{{Eagleland}} Which is an entirely different stereotype]], but whatever.

** In ''[[{{VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder}} The New Order]]'', one of the resistance fighters is a German [[DefectorFromDecadence ex-Nazi mook]] who joined the good guys after the Nazis killed his son for being born with a club foot. He still has Nazi tattoos all over him, but he plans to get them removed after the Nazis are brought down.
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** In ''[[{{VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder}} ''[[VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder The New Order]]'', one of the resistance fighters is a German [[DefectorFromDecadence ex-Nazi mook]] who joined the good guys after the Nazis killed his son for being born with a club foot. He still has Nazi tattoos all over him, but he plans to get them removed after the Nazis are brought down.

-->'''Tour Guide:'''(after some arguing about with Brian he shouts:) [[http://odanad.blogspot.com/2005/03/family-guy-hahaha.html "EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!]] On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15-- ** And of course a later episode had the old man who befriended Chris turn out to be a Nazi. It counts as an example because [[{{Shotacon}} Herbert the Pervert]] accused "Franz [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Gutentag]]" of being a Nazi, seemingly just to get Chris to stay away from him-- [[TheCloudcuckoolanderWasRight and of course, he turns out to be right.]]
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-->'''Tour Guide:'''(after some arguing about with Brian he shouts:) [[http://odanad.blogspot.com/2005/03/family-guy-hahaha.html "EVERYONE EVERYONE WAS ON VACATION!]] On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15-- ** And of course a later episode had the old man who befriended Chris turn out to be a Nazi. It counts as an example because [[{{Shotacon}} [[{{Lolicon}} Herbert the Pervert]] accused "Franz [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Gutentag]]" of being a Nazi, seemingly just to get Chris to stay away from him-- [[TheCloudcuckoolanderWasRight [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight and of course, he turns out to be right.]]right]].

* ''TheSimpsons'' assumes this at times, too and even makes it appear as if Germans are evil by nature. In a Halloween episode, "Treehouse Of Horror XVII", Homer is turned into a giant insatiable blob and starts eating people. He eats some (clearly 40-something, American) Germans at a German festival ({{Oktoberfest}}):
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* ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' assumes this at times, too and even makes it appear as if Germans are evil by nature. In a Halloween episode, "Treehouse Of Horror XVII", Homer is turned into a giant insatiable blob and starts eating people. He eats some (clearly 40-something, American) Germans at a German festival ({{Oktoberfest}}):

--> '''Hottenhoffer''': UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo? I wasn't born yet.
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--> '''Hottenhoffer''': UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo? UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? I wasn't born yet.

** In "Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk" German industrials buy Mr. Burns' nuclear power plant. At first the workers are suspicious, but they change their mind. Lenny even says: "Sure they made mistakes in the past, but that is why pencils have erasers." Finally the Germans deem the power plant to be unsafe and sell it back to Mr. Burns, who demands a large sum. They reluctantly give in to his offer, but warn him with a sinister stare that "We Germans aren't all smile and sunshine", as threatening music starts playing.
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** In "Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk" German industrials buy Mr. Burns' nuclear power plant. At first the workers are suspicious, but they change their mind. Lenny even says: "Sure "Sure, they made mistakes in the past, but that is why pencils have erasers." Finally the Germans deem the power plant to be unsafe and sell it back to Mr. Burns, who demands a large sum. They reluctantly give in to his offer, but warn him with a sinister stare that "We Germans aren't all smile and sunshine", as threatening music starts playing.
3rd Nov '15 2:22:39 PM Wintercyan
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** Subverted in the 2011 movie CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger. Johann Schmidt was never a Nazi but served Hitler in exchange for resources to fund his research. When Hitler became impatient with Schmidt's apparent lack of progress and cut off his funding, Schmidt instantly turned against Hitler and murdered his Nazi superiors; in fact, he was all along planning to destroy Berlin alongside other "hostile" capitals.
18th Oct '15 5:16:00 PM nombretomado
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* A ZigZagged trope in ''{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi.]] But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people.]] However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]] * Johann Schmidt, AKA RedSkull, served as a former member of the Nazi Party during World War II in the Captain America comics and also pretty much every single medium (except the 1990 movie, where he was an Italian fascist whose only involvement with the German Nazis is his partaking in the Ubermensch project.)
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* A ZigZagged trope in ''{{Preacher}}'': ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer, the protagonist, befriends an old German WWII veteran. Initially it looks like [[spoiler:this trope is averted: the old man tells Jesse he merely did his duty during a time of war and was never a Nazi.]] But then we find out [[spoiler:he's lying: he actually was a member of the SS and killed many innocent people.]] However, the old man [[spoiler:now repents his actions and asks Jesse to absolve him, but Jesse refuses.]] * Johann Schmidt, AKA RedSkull, ComicBook/RedSkull, served as a former member of the Nazi Party during World War II in the Captain America comics and also pretty much every single medium (except the 1990 movie, where he was an Italian fascist whose only involvement with the German Nazis is his partaking in the Ubermensch project.)
17th Oct '15 4:08:23 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Billy Wilder comedy ''OneTwoThree'' features a Coca Cola executive in West Germany during 1961 who has a former S.S. member as his assistant; one scene shows his employees acting like complete robots when issued orders.
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* The Billy Wilder comedy ''OneTwoThree'' ''Film/OneTwoThree'' features a Coca Cola executive in West Germany during 1961 who has a former S.S. member as his assistant; one scene shows his employees acting like complete robots when issued orders.
18th Sep '15 10:06:55 AM herpderpded1
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** Worst yet, it actually added fuel to the fire. Dr. Joseph Goebbels held it up as what would happen to Germany if they lost. It was a propaganda coup that stiffened German resistance even harder.
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