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17th Jul '17 4:52:37 PM Carliro
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* An enforced policy in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'', to make death means something[[note]][[GamePlayAndStorySeggregation In spite of the fact that the game itself has plenty of resurrection spells]].[[/note]]. This is why characters like Yawgmoth and Urza aren't running around, and why each death in the modern era is all the more tragic. There is one possible exception in [[spoiler:Elspeth]], given the unique circumstances she is in, but even then Creative tells to hold no breath,
15th Jun '17 3:50:30 AM Ramidel
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* Despite ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' being a high-magic setting, there is no spell that can resurrect the dead so any companions who die are dead for good (the setting does have magic that binds the soul to the body in such a way that the person doesn't exactly die, but this has major [[HorrorHunger drawbacks]], and ultimately leads to being a mindless soul endlessly bound to a pile of bonedust, so it isn't exactly something you'd ''want'' to have done to you if you know the price). However, {{reincarnation}} happens naturally to everyone.

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* Despite ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' being a high-magic setting, there is no spell that can resurrect the dead so any companions who die are dead for good (the setting does have magic that binds the soul to the body in such a way that the person doesn't exactly die, but this has major [[HorrorHunger drawbacks]], and ultimately leads to being a mindless soul endlessly bound to a pile of bonedust, so it isn't exactly something you'd ''want'' to have done to you if you know the price).good. However, {{reincarnation}} happens naturally to everyone. There are ways to ''cheat'' this, but they tend to come with [[HorrorHunger drawbacks]] and usually end up with the soul being [[AndIMustScream trapped forever in a completely-decayed pile of bonedust]]. Other attempts to cheat or manipulate the system are heavily intertwined with the game's plot.
23rd May '17 7:05:31 AM darkabomination
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* In ''Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium'', this only applies to mortal creatures, in most cases Men, aka humans and Hobbits. Unlike most examples of the trope, this is actually seen as a good thing, well, to [[WhoWantsToLiveForever everyone who's not mortal]]. Specifically, Men are given the gift of death, the ability for their souls to depart from the circles of Arda to somewhere unknown, though the wise reassure us it's definitely to somewhere or something, and not oblivion. As for everyone else, they are sent to the Halls of Mandos where he judges them, and if found worthy can be reincarnated. The problem is that while Elves seem like they're getting the benefits while Men get the short end of the stick, they must stay in Arda until the world's end. Elves sometimes call Men the Guests for this reason, to be free of the burdens of a world in decline while Elves, Dwarves, and the Valar and Maia must remain where their fates are more uncertain. The exception is Luthien, who managed for the first and only time in existence to beg for her human love Beren not to depart without her. She was made mortal instead, and they died together. Their descendants, the Half-Elven have the choice to become mortal if they so choose. Tuer and Turin are also interesting cases, as Turin's soul is burdened with Morgoth's curse and the many sins in his life, he's doomed to stay in Arda until the end of time where he'll kill Morgoth for good, and Tuer, who sailed to the Undying Lands with his Elven wife Idril, the legends saying he was counted among them.
10th May '17 11:03:49 PM Exusia
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*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates The fourteenth game]] also has a one-use staff to revive a dead character, with the catch that you cannot select who to revive; whoever was the latest to die ''in the chapter you use it'' comes back.
22nd Apr '17 8:24:22 AM Darkfeather
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** Valkryie. She was actually revived by Thor, but got killed again by Loki right after her resurrection, so she got officially retgonned.
** Gwen Stacy. Her ''clone'' was created, with the DNA and all exact memories as the real Gwen Stacy, so she's kinda the real Gwen brought back to life. But the original Gwen is still dead, as her original persona was killed by Carnage and didn't actually come back, only a clone did.
** Doctor Doom, seemingly killed at the end of Ultimatum by The Thing, was later brought back for the series Ultimate FF, with the one killed in Ultimatum being retconned as an impostor.

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** *** Valkryie. She was actually revived by Thor, but got killed again by Loki right after her resurrection, so she got officially retgonned.
** *** Gwen Stacy. Her ''clone'' was created, with the DNA and all exact memories as the real Gwen Stacy, so she's kinda the real Gwen brought back to life. But the original Gwen is still dead, as her original persona was killed by Carnage and didn't actually come back, only a clone did.
** *** Doctor Doom, seemingly killed at the end of Ultimatum by The Thing, was later brought back for the series Ultimate FF, with the one killed in Ultimatum being retconned as an impostor.impostor.
**** Then again, given that it's [[CrazyPrepared Doctor Doom]], it's entirely possible that the writers planned for the other Doom to be an impostor from the start.
22nd Apr '17 12:52:47 AM kome360
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** Note that AutoRevive phylacteries do exist, which is what saved Voldemort when Lily Potter rigged his execution method to completely backfire, but (A) It EATS a piece of the user's soul, (B) it revives them as a unique form of ghost that CAN be resurrected, but needs serious help or they'll be stuck that way, and (C) to make another, you need all the previously created phylacteries intact and at the ritual site, so if someone kills / dispels even a single phylactery, you're fucked AND you're down one whole part of your soul, forever (which is not good for your afterlife). Not exactly something a tyrant wants to do to themselves, but it didn't stop Voldemort from being suicidally dull.
14th Feb '17 3:14:01 PM ILikeRobots
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*** The first game, ''Videogame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheSwordOfLight,'' and the remake give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.

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*** The first game, ''Videogame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheSwordOfLight,'' ''Videogame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight,'' and the remake give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.



*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemmGenealogyOfTheHolyWar The fourth game]] also has a one use staff (that can be repaired for a very hefty price) that revived the dead.

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*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemmGenealogyOfTheHolyWar [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar The fourth game]] also has a one use staff (that can be repaired for a very hefty price) that revived the dead.
14th Feb '17 3:13:35 PM ILikeRobots
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** Any character who has no plot importance (Except in [[AntiFrustrationFeatures Casual Mode]] or during ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Blade's]]'' [[ProlongedPrologue tutorial chapters]] or chapter 5x of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'') will die permanently if they fall in battles. Plot related characters simply retreat, but they still won't be usable for the rest of the game.

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** Any character who has no plot importance (Except in [[AntiFrustrationFeatures Casual Mode]] or during ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade Blazing Blade's]]'' [[ProlongedPrologue tutorial chapters]] or chapter 5x of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'') will die permanently if they fall in battles. Plot related characters simply retreat, but they still won't be usable for the rest of the game.



*** The first ''VideoGame/{{Fire Emblem|Archanea}}'' game and the remakes give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.
*** The second game was much more lax, having springs on the map that revived characters, but they had limited uses.
*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral The fourth game]] also has a one use staff (that can be repaired for a very hefty price) that revived the dead.
*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe The seventh game]] has a PlotlineDeath that is later reversed by the most powerful dark sorcerer in Elibe.

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*** The first ''VideoGame/{{Fire Emblem|Archanea}}'' game game, ''Videogame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheSwordOfLight,'' and the remakes remake give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.
*** The second game game, ''Videogame/FireEmblemGaiden,'' was much more lax, having springs on the map that revived characters, but they had limited uses.
*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral [[VideoGame/FireEmblemmGenealogyOfTheHolyWar The fourth game]] also has a one use staff (that can be repaired for a very hefty price) that revived the dead.
*** [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade The seventh game]] has a PlotlineDeath that is later reversed by the most powerful dark sorcerer in Elibe.
14th Feb '17 2:13:35 PM ILikeRobots
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** Any character who has no plot importance (Except in [[AntiFrustrationFeatures Casual Mode]] or during ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword's]]'' [[ProlongedPrologue tutorial chapters]] or chapter 5x of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'') will die permanently if they fall in battles. Plot related characters simply retreat, but they still won't be usable for the rest of the game.

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** Any character who has no plot importance (Except in [[AntiFrustrationFeatures Casual Mode]] or during ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Blazing Sword's]]'' Blade's]]'' [[ProlongedPrologue tutorial chapters]] or chapter 5x of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'') will die permanently if they fall in battles. Plot related characters simply retreat, but they still won't be usable for the rest of the game.



*** The first ''VideoGame/{{Fire Emblem|Akaneia}}'' game and the remakes give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.

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*** The first ''VideoGame/{{Fire Emblem|Akaneia}}'' Emblem|Archanea}}'' game and the remakes give you a staff that can bring back ''one'' slain party member. As of the remake, most players use it to perform the Tiki/Falchion Bonus Chapter trick.
6th Feb '17 12:14:18 PM IndustriousArc
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[[folder:Fan Works]]
* ''FanFic/ABrighterDark'': Being set in the VideoGame/FireEmblem universe, magic does certainly exist. However, the author makes it clear that healing magic can only accelerate what the body would have naturally healed over time, and thus death is irreversible. Making the series' AnyoneCanDie much more unnerving.
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