History Main / AllCrimesAreEqual

23rd Jan '16 10:19:16 AM nombretomado
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* SteveMartin on the album "Comedy Is Not Pretty".
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* SteveMartin Creator/SteveMartin on the album "Comedy Is Not Pretty".
12th Jan '16 11:53:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* Similar to the ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' example below, a ComicBook/GreenArrow story arc had a demon summoned by an overzealous man trying to keep the peace in his city. The good news: It worked. The bad news: It worked by having the demon disable all technology more complicated than fire and also teleport out of nowhere to kill anyone who broke ''any'' law. Theft? Death! Assault? Death! Littering? Death! Green Arrow and sidekicks have to go to hilarious lengths when they arm the town's cops and mafioso (with bows and arrows, natch) and pit them as an army against the demon summoner. They get the bows by being let into stores by the owner of those stores, leaving enough money behind to cover everything they've taken, and they don't make a single move against the summoner until the entire army has been deputized by the sheriff and they've gotten a warrant. ''Then'' they go to... arrest him.
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* Similar to the ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' example below, a ComicBook/GreenArrow A ''ComicBook/GreenArrow'' story arc had a demon summoned by an overzealous man trying to keep the peace in his city. The good news: It worked. The bad news: It worked by having the demon disable all technology more complicated than fire and also teleport out of nowhere to kill anyone who broke ''any'' law. Theft? Death! Assault? Death! Littering? Death! Green Arrow and sidekicks have to go to hilarious lengths when they arm the town's cops and mafioso (with bows and arrows, natch) and pit them as an army against the demon summoner. They get the bows by being let into stores by the owner of those stores, leaving enough money behind to cover everything they've taken, and they don't make a single move against the summoner until the entire army has been deputized by the sheriff and they've gotten a warrant. ''Then'' they go to... arrest him.
3rd Jan '16 6:18:05 PM Fireblood
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*** According to Orthodox Christianity, yes. ALL sins can be forgiven by the Lord -- except you are only able to do it while alive, and the only unforgivable crime is an unrepentant sin, and suicide (as suicide is viewed as self-murder, and a person can't repent of it after that, as they have died.)

*** Islam also rejects the idea of an original sin, though most people will fall into temptation in life. Yet Allah forgives. In fact "Most Merciful" is one of the many Islamic names of God.
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*** ** According to Orthodox Christianity, ALL sins can be forgiven by the Lord -- except you are only able to do it while alive, and the only unforgivable crime is an unrepentant sin, and suicide (as suicide is viewed as self-murder, and a person can't repent of it after that, as they have died.) ** Islam also wholly rejects the idea of an original sin, though most people will fall into temptation in life. Yet Allah forgives. In fact "Most Merciful" is one of the many Islamic names of God.

* [[http://thosearentmuskets.com/sketches/batman.php Damn You, Batman!]] from ''Those Aren't Muskets!'' asks the question "What if Franchise/{{Batman}} acted like, well, [[TheCowl Batman]] even towards normal everyday crimes like loitering?"
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* [[http://thosearentmuskets.com/sketches/batman.php Damn You, Batman!]] from ''Those Aren't Muskets!'' asks the question "What if Franchise/{{Batman}} acted like, well, [[TheCowl Batman]] even towards toward normal everyday crimes like loitering?"

* Maricopa County Sheriff [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio Joe Arpaio]] deliberately makes a stay in his jail as horrible as he can for everybody who passes through it. (Prison terms that are shorter or for lesser crimes can be served in jail.) The trope applies because it doesn't matter to him whether you're in there because you've been accused of murder or because you didn't pay a parking ticket; everybody who enters is subjected to the same [[http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/judge-calls-maricopa-county-jail-conditions-unconstitutional awful conditions]]. Though he has admitted the reason he does this is to make it so they never want to come back to jail.
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* Maricopa County Sheriff [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio Joe Arpaio]] deliberately makes a stay in his jail as horrible as he can for everybody who passes through it. (Prison it (prison terms that are shorter or for lesser crimes can be served in jail.) jail). The trope applies because it doesn't matter to him whether you're in there because you've been accused of murder or because you didn't pay a parking ticket; everybody who enters is subjected to the same [[http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/judge-calls-maricopa-county-jail-conditions-unconstitutional awful conditions]]. Though he has admitted the reason he does this is to make it so they never want to come back to jail.

** This leads to such ridiculous situations as middle schoolers receiving suspension for fighting back against bullies who receive suspensions for the same or even lesser amount of time.
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** This leads to such ridiculous situations as middle schoolers receiving suspension for fighting back against bullies who receive suspensions for the same or even lesser amount amounts of time.

** Another reason for so many capital crimes was that until the 1820s Britain didn't have a police force, meaning that the chances of catching a criminal were small, so the punishments for the few caught had to act as a deterrent.
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** Another reason for so many capital crimes was that until the 1820s Britain didn't have a formal police force, meaning that the chances of catching a criminal were small, so the punishments for the few caught had to act as a deterrent.

*** Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons.
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*** Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons. At times this happened simply to empty out their prisons, as they couldn't even hang people fast enough.

*** Actually [[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19301116&id=ZZAxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y00DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2394,5830971 applied]] by [[UsefulNotes/NoMoreEmperors Canton municipality]] in [[Main/TheRoaringTwenties the 20's]] for three time offenders.
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*** Actually [[http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19301116&id=ZZAxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y00DAAAAIBAJ&pg=2394,5830971 applied]] by the [[UsefulNotes/NoMoreEmperors Canton municipality]] in [[Main/TheRoaringTwenties the 20's]] for three time offenders.

* The Khmer Rouge government of Cambodia considered the ownership of money, the collection of fruit by yourself, owning Western clothing, criticizing the government and sleeping on the job to be all punishable by death. Almost anything that would appear to violate the ideology of the dictator Pol Pot would send someone to prison, where 99.9% of inmates were later killed. Even Khmer Rouge cadres themselves were arrested because of how corrupt the government was and how easy it was to commit a 'crime' accidentally. * This is exactly why [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Qin empire]] only lasted twenty years after UsefulNotes/QinShiHuangdi died. The laws were extremely draconian, with the death penalty being prescribed for minor crimes for reasons similar to Draco's (to terrorize the populace). However, one of these laws created a rather perverse incentive: the penalty for tardiness in arriving at one's post in the government and military was death. One company of soldiers managed to get stuck in the swamps of the southern provinces on its way to reinforce a northern fortress against barbarian attack, and realized they would not be able to report on time. It dawned on them that since the penalty for tardiness was death, and the penalty for mutiny was also death, they stood a better chance of living if they revolted (also, being killed in battle would be more honorable than summary execution). Thus they charged into a town, declared their captain Chen Sheng King of the Chu (Chu being one of the nation-states conquered by the Qin),[[note]]To this day, "Even Chen Sheng can be King" is a Chinese proverb meaning "even the lowliest man can achieve great power if he exerts himself"[[/note]] and attracted an army of xenophobes and disgruntled peasants (who had also found Qin rule distastefully foreign and oppressive), beginning [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daze_Village_Uprising a rebellion]] that ultimately led to the end of the Qin Dynasty and the establishment of the pan-Chinese Han Empire. * The list of capital offenses in the modern [[RedChina People's Republic of China]] goes from the "classical" - murder, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]], kidnapping, [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves treason, espionage]] - to offences such as aggravated assault, robbery, [[DrugsAreBad drug trafficking]] and economic crimes such as defrauding the Treasury, [[{{Ponzi}} mass fraud]], smuggling, forging VAT receipts, embezzlement, [[BribeBackfire bribing]], [[CounterfeitCash counterfeiting money]] and even ''aggravated theft''. ** Unless, of course, you can say ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections, such as the infamous (and [[MemeticMutation memetic]] "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Gang_incident My dad is Li Gang!]]", or in some cases, ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney where people have [[http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2012/08/china_s_wealthy_and_influential_sometimes_hire_body_doubles_to_serve_their_prison_sentences.html someone else serve their sentence]] for payment. * Parents often impress on their kids that no matter what you do you'll get in trouble if you're being bad. A common response along these lines when a single-digit-aged child steals something for the first time, no matter how cheap or minor, is to threaten to call (some actually go through with it) the police and ScareEmStraight. This can backfire terribly, however, if the police then arrest and jail them.
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* The Khmer Rouge government of Cambodia considered the ownership of money, the collection of fruit by yourself, owning Western clothing, criticizing the government and sleeping on the job to be all punishable by death. Almost anything that would appear to violate the ideology of the dictator Pol Pot would send someone to prison, where 99.9% of inmates were later killed. Even Khmer Rouge cadres themselves were arrested because of how corrupt the government was and how easy it was to commit a 'crime' "crime" accidentally. * This is exactly why [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Qin empire]] only lasted twenty years after UsefulNotes/QinShiHuangdi died. The laws were extremely draconian, with the death penalty being prescribed for minor crimes for reasons similar to Draco's (to terrorize the populace). However, one of these laws created a rather perverse incentive: the penalty for tardiness in arriving at one's post in the government and military was death. One company of soldiers managed to get stuck in the swamps of the southern provinces on its way to reinforce a northern fortress against barbarian attack, and realized they would not be able to report on time. It dawned on them that since the penalty for tardiness was death, and the penalty for mutiny was also death, they stood a better chance of living if they revolted (also, being killed in battle would be more honorable than summary execution). Thus they charged into a town, declared their captain Chen Sheng King of the Chu (Chu being one of the nation-states conquered by the Qin),[[note]]To this day, "Even Chen Sheng can be King" is a Chinese proverb meaning "even the lowliest man can achieve great power if he exerts himself"[[/note]] himself".[[/note]] and attracted an army of xenophobes and disgruntled peasants (who had also found Qin rule distastefully foreign and oppressive), beginning [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daze_Village_Uprising a rebellion]] that ultimately led to the end of the Qin Dynasty and the establishment of the pan-Chinese Han Empire. * The list of capital offenses in the modern [[RedChina People's Republic of China]] goes from the "classical" - murder, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]], kidnapping, [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves treason, espionage]] - to offences such as aggravated assault, robbery, [[DrugsAreBad drug trafficking]] trafficking]], and economic crimes such as defrauding the Treasury, [[{{Ponzi}} mass fraud]], smuggling, forging VAT receipts, embezzlement, [[BribeBackfire bribing]], [[CounterfeitCash counterfeiting money]] and even ''aggravated theft''. ** Unless, of course, you can say ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections, such as the infamous (and [[MemeticMutation memetic]] "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Gang_incident My dad is Li Gang!]]", or in some cases, ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney where people have bribed [[http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2012/08/china_s_wealthy_and_influential_sometimes_hire_body_doubles_to_serve_their_prison_sentences.html someone else to serve their sentence]] for payment. them. * Parents often impress on their kids that no matter what you do you'll get in trouble if you're being bad. A common response along these lines when a single-digit-aged child steals something for the first time, no matter how cheap or minor, is to threaten to call (some actually go through with it) the police and ScareEmStraight. This can backfire terribly, however, if the police then arrest and jail them.
3rd Jan '16 5:13:12 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Literature/LesMiserables'', Jean Valjean was originally sent to prison for having stolen a loaf of bread with an original sentence of five years. Several escape attempts later, his sentence has been extended to ''nineteen'' years, at the end of which he is released. He breaks parole and spends the next decade hunted by a [[InspectorJavert dedicated gendarme]], even while the June Rebellion is going on. Remember, all of this is over a loaf of bread. ** He didn't just steal a loaf of bread and attempt to escape; he vandalized, trespassed, evaded arrest, and assaulted a police officer during one of his escape attempts. By the end of the story he's guilty of parole violation, evading arrest again, living under a false identity, and participating in a revolution (it was just to save a friend, and he didn't actually kill anybody, but he did tend to the rebel wounded at the barricade which would be considered treason).
3rd Jan '16 5:01:56 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], [[WouldHurtAChild your own children]], [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family]] and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who had deliberately poisoned ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], [[WouldHurtAChild your own children]], [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family]] and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who had also deliberately poisoned ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
3rd Jan '16 5:01:21 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], [[WouldHurtAChild your own children]], [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family,]], and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who was trying to kill ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], [[WouldHurtAChild your own children]], [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family,]], family]] and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who was trying to kill had deliberately poisoned ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
3rd Jan '16 4:59:31 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], your own children, [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family,]], and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who was trying to kill ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
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* ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], [[WouldHurtAChild your own children, children]], [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family,]], and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who was trying to kill ''you'') all receive the same punishment in the afterlife.
3rd Jan '16 4:58:43 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', anything at all that might trigger any emotion is punishable with the death penalty.
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* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', anything at all that might trigger any an emotion (like paintings or poetry) is burned, and any experience of emotion punishable with the by death penalty.([[KillItWithFire also through burning]]).

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* In ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'', anything at ''Film/CruelAndUnusual'': Murdering [[SelfMadeOrphan both your parents]], your own children, [[SuicideForOthersHappiness killing yourself because you feel you're a burden upon your family,]], and [[AccidentalMurder accidentally killing your wife]] (who was trying to kill ''you'') all that might trigger any emotion is punishable with receive the death penalty.same punishment in the afterlife.
3rd Jan '16 4:43:41 PM Fireblood
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Certainly, this method of governance has a great tendency towards generating [[LaResistance rebels]], since a minor disagreement brands you with the traitors anyways; screwing you over forever, why not die fighting the power that so unjustly attacked you?
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Certainly, this method of governance has a great tendency towards generating [[LaResistance rebels]], since a minor disagreement brands you with the traitors anyways; anyways, screwing you over forever, forever; why not die fighting the power that so unjustly attacked you?
3rd Jan '16 10:41:20 AM WhosAsking
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* Another prison film, ''Brubaker'', featured the convict Bullen. Turns out he's a lifer due to "three strikes" laws (see Real Life below), and while his first two strikes (both Grand Theft Auto) could arguably be justified, the one that put him away was totally ridiculous. As he told Brubaker, he'd been picked up for a minor thing, he's in the holding cell with a bunch of others, there's a scuffle, the cell's toilet is broken in the process, and ''he'' got the rap for Destruction of City Property Over $50, which was in the books as a ''felony.'' He got Strike Three and was declared a "Habitual Offender".
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