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14th Jan '18 3:09:24 PM nombretomado
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* In LiberalCrimeSquad, if death penalty laws go Arch-conservative, every crime is punished by death. From terrorism (causing a meltdown at the nuclear power plant) to loitering.

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* In LiberalCrimeSquad, ''VideoGame/LiberalCrimeSquad'', if death penalty laws go Arch-conservative, every crime is punished by death. From terrorism (causing a meltdown at the nuclear power plant) to loitering.
12th Jan '18 3:45:40 PM AHI-3000
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* ''WesternAnimation/MenInBlack'': In "The Worm-Guy Guy Syndrome", the LawfulStupid enforcers from planet Kalifadik come to Earth to teleport alien fugitives to life imprisonment for any violation, no matter [[MattressTagGag how minor]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MenInBlack'': ''WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries'': In "The Worm-Guy Guy Syndrome", the LawfulStupid enforcers from planet Kalifadik come to Earth to teleport alien fugitives to life imprisonment for any violation, [[FelonyMisdemeanor no matter matter]] [[MattressTagGag how minor]].
1st Jan '18 11:05:36 AM nombretomado
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23rd Dec '17 3:26:44 PM nombretomado
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** In practice, this may have led to more crimes as well as worse crimes: many judges and juries modified the charge, ignored evidence, or outright acquitted certain offenders so as to avoid having to hang them for some of the more ridiculous statutes. Thus, it led to legal corruption and disrespect for the very law they were tasked to enforce. Ironically, because of this, the period under which the Bloody Code occurred actually had fewer executions. Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons. At times, this happened simply to empty out their prisons, as they couldn't even hang people fast enough. Of course, this was far too often simply a slower death sentence. because a huge percentage of enlisted soldiers died of diseases without ever even getting to see a battle, and the mortality rates on the ships were horrible. Lots of people died in prison from "gaol fever" as well, before ever getting hanged. Therefore, even non-capital sentences could mean death functionally.

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** In practice, this may have led to more crimes as well as worse crimes: many judges and juries modified the charge, ignored evidence, or outright acquitted certain offenders so as to avoid having to hang them for some of the more ridiculous statutes. Thus, it led to legal corruption and disrespect for the very law they were tasked to enforce. Ironically, because of this, the period under which the Bloody Code occurred actually had fewer executions. Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons. At times, this happened simply to empty out their prisons, as they couldn't even hang people fast enough. Of course, this was far too often simply a slower death sentence. because a huge percentage of enlisted soldiers died of diseases without ever even getting to see a battle, and the mortality rates on the ships were horrible. Lots of people died in prison from "gaol fever" as well, before ever getting hanged. Therefore, even non-capital sentences could mean death functionally.
15th Dec '17 5:51:50 PM shawn_allen
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* In ''Film/KingsmanTheGoldenCircle'', Statesman Agent Whiskey's wife and child were killed by drug dealers, simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Because of this, he tries sabotaging Eggsy's and Harry's attempt to obtain the antidote to Poppy's poison, laced into all recreational drugs. In his eyes, the users are all scumbags, even his fellow Statesman, Tequila.
3rd Dec '17 12:55:21 PM nombretomado
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* Pretty much every infraction, whether major or minor, committed in the prison from ''CoolHandLuke'' is apparently punished with "a night in the box".

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* Pretty much every infraction, whether major or minor, committed in the prison from ''CoolHandLuke'' ''Film/CoolHandLuke'' is apparently punished with "a night in the box".
1st Dec '17 2:21:08 PM Kickisund
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** In practice, this may have led to more crimes as well as worse crimes: many judges and juries modified the charge, ignored evidence, or outright acquitted certain offenders so as to avoid having to hang them for some of the more ridiculous statutes. Thus, it led to legal corruption and disrespect for the very law they were tasked to enforce. Ironically, because of this, the period under which the Bloody Code occurred actually had fewer executions. Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons. At times, this happened simply to empty out their prisons, as they couldn't even hang people fast enough. Of course, this was far too often simply a slower death sentence. The mortality rates on the ships were horrible, and a huge percentage of enlisted soldiers died of diseases without ever even getting to see a battle. A lot of people died in prison from "gaol fever" as well, before ever getting hanged. Therefore, even non-capital sentences could mean death functionally.

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** In practice, this may have led to more crimes as well as worse crimes: many judges and juries modified the charge, ignored evidence, or outright acquitted certain offenders so as to avoid having to hang them for some of the more ridiculous statutes. Thus, it led to legal corruption and disrespect for the very law they were tasked to enforce. Ironically, because of this, the period under which the Bloody Code occurred actually had fewer executions. Moreover, death sentences were commonly commuted in more "ridiculous" cases and the offenders were [[TradingBarsForStripes sent to]] the [[BritsWithBattleships Army and the Navy]] or [[SentencedToDownUnder Australia]]. [[LoopholeAbuse Nothing in the law says]] you can't sentence someone to death and then reduce the sentence for "merciful" reasons. At times, this happened simply to empty out their prisons, as they couldn't even hang people fast enough. Of course, this was far too often simply a slower death sentence. The mortality rates on the ships were horrible, and because a huge percentage of enlisted soldiers died of diseases without ever even getting to see a battle. A lot battle, and the mortality rates on the ships were horrible. Lots of people died in prison from "gaol fever" as well, before ever getting hanged. Therefore, even non-capital sentences could mean death functionally.
30th Nov '17 10:03:20 PM Kickisund
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** This period also gave us the sayings "in for a penny, in for a pound" and "one may as well get hanged for a sheep as a lamb". Since even crimes that had lesser punishments than death tended to have fairly disproportionate punishments, criminals, realizing that how much they stole was irrelevant to the sentence, began to shoot for larger hauls. Why bother stealing a mere penny or lamb, when one could steal a sheep or a pound and the punishment was no worse if caught? And if there were any witnesses, they might kill them, too, to escape a death sentence that would come just as easily for theft as committing murder.

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** This period also gave us the sayings "in for a penny, in for a pound" and "one may as well get hanged for a sheep as a lamb". Since even crimes that had lesser punishments than death tended to have fairly disproportionate punishments, criminals, realizing that how much they stole was irrelevant to the sentence, began to shoot for larger hauls. Why bother stealing a mere penny or lamb, when one could steal a pound or a sheep or a pound and the punishment was no worse if caught? And if there were any witnesses, they might kill them, too, to escape a death sentence that would come just as easily for theft as committing murder.
30th Nov '17 9:28:31 PM Kickisund
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** In the ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'' novel/movie, this trope is utilized, not for an entire empire, but a school. Dolores Umbridge [[TyrantTakesTheHelm installs thousands of restrictive rules]] in the school, which prohibit not only meetings which could be used to fight her authority (or, in her mind, the Ministry) but also rules which prevent girls and boys walking together. Many of these rules were nonsensical and invented as needed any time the existing ones didn't cover a very narrow situation Umbridge wanted to shut down.

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** In the ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'' novel/movie, this trope is utilized, not for an entire empire, but a school. Dolores Umbridge [[TyrantTakesTheHelm installs thousands of restrictive rules]] in the school, which prohibit not only meetings including prohibiting any meeting which could be used to fight her authority (or, in her mind, the Ministry) but also rules which prevent girls and boys walking together.Ministry). Many of these rules were nonsensical and invented as needed any time the existing ones didn't cover a very narrow situation Umbridge wanted to shut down.



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio Joe Arpaio]], Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona (the county that contains Phoenix) 19932017, deliberately made it policy that a stay in his jail be as horrible as he can for everybody who passes through it (prison terms that are shorter or for lesser crimes can be served in jail). The trope applies because it would not matter to him whether you're in there because you've been accused of murder or because you didn't pay a parking ticket; everybody who enters is subjected to the same [[http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/judge-calls-maricopa-county-jail-conditions-unconstitutional awful conditions]]. Though he has admitted the reason he enacted this policy was to make it so they never want to come back to jail. This has drawn particular criticism because it failed to distinguish between inmates who have been convicted of a crime and those who have not yet been tried (or are on trial) and are merely being held because they cannot make bail (or are being held on remand). While humiliating convicted criminals might be to some degree legitimate, applying the same treatment to people who have not been convicted -- and are therefore still innocent in the eyes of the law -- is highly questionable. This, combined with his policies targeting undocumented immigrants, led to his defeat by Democrat Paul Penzone in the 2016 election; Penzone promised to reverse or revise these practices, and between those opposed to Arpaio's policies on principle and those who felt that the innumerable lawsuits and massive national opprobrium the policies were generating weren't worth whatever benefit they had, there were enough voters ready to finally kick Arpaio out.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio Joe Arpaio]], Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona (the county that contains Phoenix) 19932017, deliberately made it policy that a stay in his jail be as horrible as he can for everybody who passes through it (prison terms that are shorter or for lesser crimes can be served in jail). The trope applies because it would not matter to him whether you're in there because you've been accused of murder or because you didn't pay a parking ticket; everybody who enters is subjected to the same [[http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/judge-calls-maricopa-county-jail-conditions-unconstitutional awful conditions]]. Though he has admitted the reason he enacted this policy was to make it so they never want to come back to jail. This jail, this has drawn particular criticism because it failed to distinguish between inmates who have been convicted of a crime and those who have not yet been tried (or are on trial) and are merely being held because they cannot make bail (or are being held on remand). While humiliating convicted criminals might be to some degree legitimate, applying the same treatment to people who have not been convicted -- and are therefore still innocent in the eyes of the law -- is highly questionable. This, combined with his policies targeting undocumented immigrants, led to his defeat by Democrat Paul Penzone in the 2016 election; Penzone promised to reverse or revise these practices, and between those opposed to Arpaio's policies on principle and those who felt that the innumerable lawsuits and massive national opprobrium the policies were generating weren't worth whatever benefit they had, there were enough voters ready to finally kick Arpaio out.
24th Nov '17 1:33:57 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/ThePostman'': Among the Holnists' laws, one states "The only punishment is death", even for such "[[DisproportionateRetribution crimes]]" as failing to sit down when ordered to because there weren't enough chairs. We see this demonstrated when the poor fool who had failed to gets killed by General Bethlehem. This may seem short-sighted to kill useful men, but it does instill quite strong obedience through fear.
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