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24th Jun '16 7:56:03 AM Willbyr
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* In the original ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' series episode ''The Galileo Seven'', there were ''giant alien'' cavemen threatening a shuttlecraft.

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* In the original ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' Trek|TheOriginalSeries}}'' series episode ''The Galileo Seven'', there were ''giant alien'' cavemen threatening a shuttlecraft.



** Interesting in that modern humans would fill the Elves' role, being thin and (compared to Neanderthals) extremely gracile. We also exhibited a higher degree of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny neoteny,]] so perhaps we would have seemed creepily alluring. The fact that on occasion we killed (and maybe even butchered and ate) Neanderthals pushes us into TheFairFolk territory.

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** Interesting in that modern humans would fill the Elves' role, being thin and (compared to Neanderthals) extremely gracile. We also exhibited a higher degree of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny neoteny,]] neoteny]], so perhaps we would have seemed creepily alluring. The fact that on occasion we killed (and maybe even butchered and ate) Neanderthals pushes us into TheFairFolk territory.
24th Jun '16 7:49:54 AM Morgenthaler
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22nd Jun '16 5:33:53 AM Doug86
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* Mostly played straight in Creator/SMStirling's ''Literature/TheLordsOfCreation'' series. The Neanderthals on Venus are thuggish, violent, and have almost no regard for their own lives (although they do have recognizable family units and will protect their children and other vulnerable individuals). Played with in that the Neanderthals have had thousands of years of independent evolution on terraformed Venus, and [[spoiler: may have been genetically or otherwise manipulated along the way by the SufficientlyAdvancedAliens responsible for the setting.]]

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* Mostly played straight in Creator/SMStirling's ''Literature/TheLordsOfCreation'' series. The Neanderthals on Venus are thuggish, violent, and have almost no regard for their own lives (although they do have recognizable family units and will protect their children and other vulnerable individuals). Played with in that the Neanderthals have had thousands of years of independent evolution on terraformed Venus, and [[spoiler: may have been genetically or otherwise manipulated along the way by the SufficientlyAdvancedAliens {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s responsible for the setting.]]
4th Jun '16 12:07:21 PM Morgenthaler
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* Played straight in ''Eegah!'', with the titular caveman played by Richard Kiel.

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* Played straight in ''Eegah!'', ''Film/{{Eegah}}'', with the titular caveman played by Richard Kiel.
4th Jun '16 6:05:22 AM Morgenthaler
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This is usually a double case of artistic liberties most often, Neanderthal cavemen are depicted as nothing but simple, dumb brutes capable of barely a grunt. The various sciences researching them indicate that this is untrue, too in fact, they had ''larger'' brains than humans.[[note]] Although that extra brainpower was directed to different places than in a modern human; Neanderthals had a much larger Occipital Lobe, which processes visual information. This came at the expense of the Frontal Lobe (which in modern humans is disproportionately large), which governs higher functions. Neanderthals also lacked the ability to form complex societies (their groups were far smaller on average than a human tribe). It is also thought that Neanderthals had a longer gestation period and faster maturation rate, both of which hinder mental growth.[[/note]]

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This is usually a double case of artistic liberties -- most often, Neanderthal cavemen are depicted as nothing but simple, dumb brutes capable of barely a grunt. The various sciences researching them indicate that this is untrue, too -- in fact, they had ''larger'' brains than humans.[[note]] Although that extra brainpower was directed to different places than in a modern human; Neanderthals had a much larger Occipital Lobe, which processes visual information. This came at the expense of the Frontal Lobe (which in modern humans is disproportionately large), which governs higher functions. Neanderthals also lacked the ability to form complex societies (their groups were far smaller on average than a human tribe). It is also thought that Neanderthals had a longer gestation period and faster maturation rate, both of which hinder mental growth.[[/note]]



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* In ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', the Kromaggs were a menacing race that evolved from Neanderthals and liked to eat other humans!

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* In ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', the Kromaggs were a menacing race that evolved from Neanderthals and liked to eat other humans!



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4th Jun '16 5:44:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* Atlas/Seaboard Comics' ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brute3.jpg The Brute.]]''

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* Atlas/Seaboard Comics' ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brute3.jpg The ''The Brute.]]''''
4th Jun '16 2:44:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* In DavidZindell's ''Neverness'' and ''Requiem for Homo Sapiens'', the ancestors of the cave-dwelling Alaloi genetically reverse engineered themselves into Neanderthals.

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* In DavidZindell's Creator/DavidZindell's ''Neverness'' and ''Requiem for Homo Sapiens'', the ancestors of the cave-dwelling Alaloi genetically reverse engineered themselves into Neanderthals.



* Mostly played straight in Creator/SMStirling's ''TheLordsOfCreation'' series. The Neanderthals on Venus are thuggish, violent, and have almost no regard for their own lives (although they do have recognizable family units and will protect their children and other vulnerable individuals). Played with in that the Neanderthals have had thousands of years of independent evolution on terraformed Venus, and [[spoiler: may have been genetically or otherwise manipulated along the way by the SufficientlyAdvancedAliens responsible for the setting.]]

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* Mostly played straight in Creator/SMStirling's ''TheLordsOfCreation'' ''Literature/TheLordsOfCreation'' series. The Neanderthals on Venus are thuggish, violent, and have almost no regard for their own lives (although they do have recognizable family units and will protect their children and other vulnerable individuals). Played with in that the Neanderthals have had thousands of years of independent evolution on terraformed Venus, and [[spoiler: may have been genetically or otherwise manipulated along the way by the SufficientlyAdvancedAliens responsible for the setting.]]



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18th Jan '16 3:04:51 PM WillKeaton
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** Interesting in that modern humans would fill the Elves' role, being thin and (compared to Neanderthals) extremely gracile. We also exhibited a higher degree of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny neoteny]], so perhaps we would have seemed creepily alluring. The fact that on occasion we killed (and maybe even butchered and ate) Neanderthals pushes us into TheFairFolk territory.

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** Interesting in that modern humans would fill the Elves' role, being thin and (compared to Neanderthals) extremely gracile. We also exhibited a higher degree of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny neoteny]], neoteny,]] so perhaps we would have seemed creepily alluring. The fact that on occasion we killed (and maybe even butchered and ate) Neanderthals pushes us into TheFairFolk territory.
18th Jan '16 3:04:22 PM WillKeaton
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* TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons 3.5 Frostburn supplement featured Neanderthals as a race of throwbacks dwelling in cold regions. They are on average bigger (including taller), stronger, and more adapted to cold climates but have lower than average mental and social traits. This could be justified as game balance and shoehorning the creatures into the supplement. Odd in that, the orc is usually a fantastic stand in for primitive man.

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* TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' 3.5 Frostburn supplement featured Neanderthals as a race of throwbacks dwelling in cold regions. They are on average bigger (including taller), stronger, and more adapted to cold climates but have lower than average mental and social traits. This could be justified as game balance and shoehorning the creatures into the supplement. Odd in that, the orc is usually a fantastic stand in for primitive man.



* In 1992 game ''Ugh!'' the protagonist caveman is short and stocky. Smart enough to build a [[BambooTechnology pedal-driven wooden helicopter]], but strong enough to actually fly it. All to impress his NubileSavage girlfriend. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ugh_Computer_Game_Screenshot1.png Here they are]].

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* In 1992 game ''Ugh!'' the protagonist caveman is short and stocky. Smart enough to build a [[BambooTechnology pedal-driven wooden helicopter]], but strong enough to actually fly it. All to impress his NubileSavage girlfriend. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ugh_Computer_Game_Screenshot1.png Here they are]].are.]]
18th Jan '16 3:02:31 PM WillKeaton
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* The Advertising/{{GEICO}} [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEICO_Cavemen Cavemen]]. Played straight with their looks, but subverted in that the cavemen complain that they're being stereotyped as dumb brutes. Sadly being played straighter and straighter as of late, as the one remaining caveman is becoming portrayed more and more as TooDumbToLive, albeit in an UpperClassTwit sort of way.

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* The Advertising/{{GEICO}} [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEICO_Cavemen Cavemen]]. Cavemen.]] Played straight with their looks, but subverted in that the cavemen complain that they're being stereotyped as dumb brutes. Sadly being played straighter and straighter as of late, as the one remaining caveman is becoming portrayed more and more as TooDumbToLive, albeit in an UpperClassTwit sort of way.
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