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28th Jul '13 7:37:32 PM Sheora
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%% PLEASE NOTE: A) the purpose of this page is to 1) provide some reference to the widespread griping many %% Swedish Tolkien fans indulge in and at the same time 2) discuss the Blind Idiot Translation phenomenon. %% There is no real point in listing *all* the errors in the translation. Listed examples should also be %% comprehensible to non-Swedish readers: for instance hours -> horses works while lair -> thigh doesn't. %% ALSO NOTE: B) this page was cut in January 2012 for being too much about complaining and too little %% about Ohlmarks and his influence. Let's keep the hate level down, shall we? ┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the Literature/{{Edda}}, Creator/{{Shakespeare}}, the Literature/{{Quran}}, ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish. He is [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known,]] though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly? !Reasons why: * [[AC:He was unfamiliar with the fantasy genre:]] (In 1959, ''most'' people were.) Given that a work is more than the sum of its words, understanding the genre is fundamental to a successful translation. * [[AC:He just didn't like the book much:]] He complained about it to the publisher, calling it childish and boring. You probably can't do justice to a work if you don't appreciate it. * [[AC:He was careless and negligent:]] He didn't bother to read ahead or keep good track of names and concepts, and also didn't go back to fix errors later. This resulted in premature translations ("Lord Denethor" became "King Denethor" before it was made clear that Gondor had no king) and inconsistencies ("The Entwash" was first translated as "Loopy Creek", then as "Muddy River", and finally as "Entstream" when he had learned about Ents). No translator should work like this on a novel-sized work (of course, given a really inflated novel and a very tight deadline, it still happens; Ohlmarks seems to have had ample time, though). * [[AC:He had problems understanding English:]] No, really (he was better in other languages). He often mixed up simple words and was apparently unfamiliar with many common idioms. Given that Tolkien's text often goes beyond the simple and common, using carefully selected words and phrases to convey the nuances of culture and history, it's no wonder [[LostInTranslation Ohlmarks was stumped]]. His lack of command of the language led to a number of jarring homophone errors such as "lair" being translated as "thigh" ("lňr" in Swedish). It goes without saying that a translator needs to have sufficient knowledge of both the source and target languages to be able to translate well. Another problem, unrelated to the Blind Idiot-ness of the translation, was the total clash of style. Whereas Tolkien wrote in a sparse and unaffected style, meant to emulate Norse epics, Ohlmarks felt the need to [[SpiceUpTheSubtitles spice up the text]] with PurpleProse to make it look more exciting and readable. Ohlmarks' contributions, in all fairness, were usually of quite high quality... but the fact remains that they are in Ohlmark's style, not Tolkien's. It is said that on his bad days, Ohlmarks was an idiot and on his good days he was a genius. Unfortunately, ''Sagan om ringen'' (Swedish LOTR translation) has more than its fair share of his bad days. ---- !Examples: Here are a few examples of the errors, which are intended to show how even very small mistakes can transform a text's meaning completely: this is the very essence of BlindIdiotTranslation. His text has been back-translated to English as faithfully as possible, and we are indebted to Martin Andersson for his compilation of translation errors[[http://tolkiensarda.se/new/nummer/magsidor/arfett14.htm]] (in Swedish), from which we picked the following pearls (see also [[http://sswftapa.blogspot.com/2007/01/lord-of-errors-or-who-really-killed.html]] (in English) where he makes more or less the same points as in this article). !!Idiom idiocy ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||"Then you are going to fly," said Pippin. "You won't cut straight on foot anywhere in this country."||"Then you are fleeing," said Pippin. "You don't take shortcuts in this land otherwise."|| || ||You do not know your own skill in healing||Can't you use your own healing skill to complete the cure?||Theoden to Gandalf|| ||What's more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||What is it to you, [[TranslationTrainWreck if you pick a fresh leaf, and hold it in your hand]] -- Then I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||Sam to Smeagol|| ||An hour long prepared approaches||A whole hour I've investigated how to get there||Aragorn|| !!Simple reversal ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||Is Saruman the master or the Great Eye?||Is Saruman not the master of the Great Eye?|| || ||It is likely enough||It is not likely|| || ||Not in half a thousand years have they forgotten their grievance||In half a thousand years they have forgotten their grievance|| || ||Gandalf [made a pause,] getting the better of his mirth||Gandalf [paused to] give free rein to his mirth|| || ||I don't suppose we could give him the slip now anyway.||I don't think he'll be able to escape us now.|| || ||with her last strength [Eowyn] drove her sword between crown and mantle||with his last strength [Merry] drove his sword between crown and mantle||In Ohlmarks' translation, Merry killed the Witch-King, not Eowyn.|| ||[A Nazgul is] in charge at the Tower now.||[A Nazgul is] in the service of the Tower now.|| || !!Word confusion ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||"It comes from Mordor"||"I come from Mordor"|| || ||[An arrow] passed through Aragorn's hood||[An arrow] passed through Aragorn's hauberk|| || ||So old that almost I feel young again, as I have not felt since I journeyed with you children.||So old that almost I feel young again, as I have not felt since I journeyed with my children.|| || ||in which the Firstborn roamed while Men still slept||in which the Firstborn One mooed while the children of Men still slept|| || ||What's happened to your precious Nazgűl? Has he had another mount shot under him?||What's happened to your precious Nazgűl? Has he perched on another mountain?|| || ||''Seven stars and seven stones, and one white tree.''||''Three stars and seven stones, and the whitest tree you could see.''|| || ||Two hours swiftly passed, and now the king sat upon his white horse||Two swift horses passed, and then the king mounted his own horse|| || ||Stripped, eh?' said Gorbag. 'What, teeth, nails, hair, and all?'||Whipped, heh?' said Gorbag. 'What, with teeth, nails, hair and everything else?'|| || !Tolkien's reaction Creator/JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When ''Literature/{{The Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks. ----
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%% PLEASE NOTE: A) the purpose of this page is to 1) provide some reference to the widespread griping many %% Swedish Tolkien fans indulge in and at the same time 2) discuss the Blind Idiot Translation phenomenon. %% There is no real point in listing *all* the errors in the translation. Listed examples should also be %% comprehensible to non-Swedish readers: for instance hours -> horses works while lair -> thigh doesn't. %% ALSO NOTE: B) this page was cut in January 2012 for being too much about complaining and too little %% about Ohlmarks and his influence. Let's keep the hate level down, shall we? ┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the Literature/{{Edda}}, Creator/{{Shakespeare}}, the Literature/{{Quran}}, ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish. He is [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known,]] though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly? !Reasons why: * [[AC:He was unfamiliar with the fantasy genre:]] (In 1959, ''most'' people were.) Given that a work is more than the sum of its words, understanding the genre is fundamental to a successful translation. * [[AC:He just didn't like the book much:]] He complained about it to the publisher, calling it childish and boring. You probably can't do justice to a work if you don't appreciate it. * [[AC:He was careless and negligent:]] He didn't bother to read ahead or keep good track of names and concepts, and also didn't go back to fix errors later. This resulted in premature translations ("Lord Denethor" became "King Denethor" before it was made clear that Gondor had no king) and inconsistencies ("The Entwash" was first translated as "Loopy Creek", then as "Muddy River", and finally as "Entstream" when he had learned about Ents). No translator should work like this on a novel-sized work (of course, given a really inflated novel and a very tight deadline, it still happens; Ohlmarks seems to have had ample time, though). * [[AC:He had problems understanding English:]] No, really (he was better in other languages). He often mixed up simple words and was apparently unfamiliar with many common idioms. Given that Tolkien's text often goes beyond the simple and common, using carefully selected words and phrases to convey the nuances of culture and history, it's no wonder [[LostInTranslation Ohlmarks was stumped]]. His lack of command of the language led to a number of jarring homophone errors such as "lair" being translated as "thigh" ("lňr" in Swedish). It goes without saying that a translator needs to have sufficient knowledge of both the source and target languages to be able to translate well. Another problem, unrelated to the Blind Idiot-ness of the translation, was the total clash of style. Whereas Tolkien wrote in a sparse and unaffected style, meant to emulate Norse epics, Ohlmarks felt the need to [[SpiceUpTheSubtitles spice up the text]] with PurpleProse to make it look more exciting and readable. Ohlmarks' contributions, in all fairness, were usually of quite high quality... but the fact remains that they are in Ohlmark's style, not Tolkien's. It is said that on his bad days, Ohlmarks was an idiot and on his good days he was a genius. Unfortunately, ''Sagan om ringen'' (Swedish LOTR translation) has more than its fair share of his bad days. ---- !Examples: Here are a few examples of the errors, which are intended to show how even very small mistakes can transform a text's meaning completely: this is the very essence of BlindIdiotTranslation. His text has been back-translated to English as faithfully as possible, and we are indebted to Martin Andersson for his compilation of translation errors[[http://tolkiensarda.se/new/nummer/magsidor/arfett14.htm]] (in Swedish), from which we picked the following pearls (see also [[http://sswftapa.blogspot.com/2007/01/lord-of-errors-or-who-really-killed.html]] (in English) where he makes more or less the same points as in this article). !!Idiom idiocy ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||"Then you are going to fly," said Pippin. "You won't cut straight on foot anywhere in this country."||"Then you are fleeing," said Pippin. "You don't take shortcuts in this land otherwise."|| || ||You do not know your own skill in healing||Can't you use your own healing skill to complete the cure?||Theoden to Gandalf|| ||What's more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||What is it to you, [[TranslationTrainWreck if you pick a fresh leaf, and hold it in your hand]] -- Then I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||Sam to Smeagol|| ||An hour long prepared approaches||A whole hour I've investigated how to get there||Aragorn|| !!Simple reversal ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||Is Saruman the master or the Great Eye?||Is Saruman not the master of the Great Eye?|| || ||It is likely enough||It is not likely|| || ||Not in half a thousand years have they forgotten their grievance||In half a thousand years they have forgotten their grievance|| || ||Gandalf [made a pause,] getting the better of his mirth||Gandalf [paused to] give free rein to his mirth|| || ||I don't suppose we could give him the slip now anyway.||I don't think he'll be able to escape us now.|| || ||with her last strength [Eowyn] drove her sword between crown and mantle||with his last strength [Merry] drove his sword between crown and mantle||In Ohlmarks' translation, Merry killed the Witch-King, not Eowyn.|| ||[A Nazgul is] in charge at the Tower now.||[A Nazgul is] in the service of the Tower now.|| || !!Word confusion ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''||'''Comment'''|| ||"It comes from Mordor"||"I come from Mordor"|| || ||[An arrow] passed through Aragorn's hood||[An arrow] passed through Aragorn's hauberk|| || ||So old that almost I feel young again, as I have not felt since I journeyed with you children.||So old that almost I feel young again, as I have not felt since I journeyed with my children.|| || ||in which the Firstborn roamed while Men still slept||in which the Firstborn One mooed while the children of Men still slept|| || ||What's happened to your precious Nazgűl? Has he had another mount shot under him?||What's happened to your precious Nazgűl? Has he perched on another mountain?|| || ||''Seven stars and seven stones, and one white tree.''||''Three stars and seven stones, and the whitest tree you could see.''|| || ||Two hours swiftly passed, and now the king sat upon his white horse||Two swift horses passed, and then the king mounted his own horse|| || ||Stripped, eh?' said Gorbag. 'What, teeth, nails, hair, and all?'||Whipped, heh?' said Gorbag. 'What, with teeth, nails, hair and everything else?'|| || !Tolkien's reaction Creator/JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When ''Literature/{{The Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks. ----[[redirect:Creator/AkeOhlmarks]]
29th Apr '13 8:42:22 AM Samadhir
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He is mostly known, though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly?
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He is [[NeverLiveItDown mostly known, known,]] though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly?
16th Feb '13 7:19:23 AM PRH
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This needs to be rewritten. As of now, this paragraph contradicts itself.
!Say what? "'You forget to whom you speak,' said Aragorn sternly, and his eyes glinted." Aragorn continues: "'Did I not openly proclaim my title before the doors of Edoras? What do you fear that I should say to him?'" In Ohlmarks' translation, it's "'What do you fear that I should say to him? That I have an insubordinate rascal of a dwarf here, and would like to trade him for an obliging orc?'" It was "creativity" like this that made Swedish fans really loathe Ohlmarks and his translation. This example is especially glaring as it combines omission with Ohlmarks inserting his own inferior material, and derails Aragorn's character in the process -- ...except that it doesn't. Ohlmarks worked with the less well-known first edition of ''[=LoTR=]'', where Aragorn ''actually says this'': "'What do you fear that I should say: that I had a rascal of a rebel dwarf here that I would gladly exchange for a serviceable orc?'". When Swedish fans wanted to have a look at the original English text, they typically read the second edition (1966, quoted above) and didn't realize that the text had been "softened" in several places. While most of the problems with Ohlmarks' translation really are his own fault, in cases like this the [[MisBlamed perceived false note]] actually ''is'' true to the original.
3rd Sep '12 8:50:31 AM morane
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Another problem, unrelated to the Blind Idiot-ness of the translation, was the total clash of style. Whereas Tolkien wrote in a sparse and unaffected style, meant to emulate Norse epics, Ohlmarks felt the need to [[SpiceUpTheSubtitles spice up the text]] with PurpleProse to make it look more exciting and readable. Ohlmarks' contributions, in all fairness, were usually of quite high quality... but the fact remains that they are in Ohlmark's style, not Tolkien's.
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Another problem, unrelated to the Blind Idiot-ness of the translation, was the total clash of style. Whereas Tolkien wrote in a sparse and unaffected style, meant to emulate Norse epics, Ohlmarks felt the need to [[SpiceUpTheSubtitles spice up the text]] with PurpleProse to make it look more exciting and readable. Ohlmarks' contributions, in all fairness, were usually of quite high quality... but the fact remains that they are in Ohlmark's style, not Tolkien's. It is said that on his bad days, Ohlmarks was an idiot and on his good days he was a genius. Unfortunately, ''Sagan om ringen'' (Swedish LOTR translation) has more than its fair share of his bad days.
29th Jul '12 2:42:03 PM LordGro
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┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the [[NorseMythology Edda]], {{Shakespeare}}, [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} the Qur'an]], ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish.
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┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the [[NorseMythology Edda]], {{Shakespeare}}, [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Literature/{{Edda}}, Creator/{{Shakespeare}}, the Qur'an]], Literature/{{Quran}}, ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish.
8th May '12 7:41:00 PM Nightsky
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JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When ''Literature/{{The Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
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JRRTolkien Creator/JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When ''Literature/{{The Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
6th Apr '12 1:24:21 PM DoctorSerenitySquid
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┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the [[NorseMythology Edda]], {{Shakespeare}}, [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} the Qur'an]], ''TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish. He is mostly known, though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly?
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┼ke Ohlmarks (1911--1984) was a Swedish scholar and author[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/┼ke_Ohlmarks]]. He wrote several books, mostly about Norse culture and religion, and also translated the [[NorseMythology Edda]], {{Shakespeare}}, [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} the Qur'an]], ''TheDivineComedy'', ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'', and Nostradamus into Swedish. He is mostly known, though, for his BlindIdiotTranslation of ''TheLordOfTheRings''.''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. How is it that an experienced translator like Ohlmarks can fail so badly?

JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When the ''{{Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
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JRRTolkien was able to read Swedish with the help of a dictionary, and following the disappointing first (Dutch) translation he had asked the Swedish publisher for a list of translated names. He was unhappy with Ohlmarks' work and tried to reason with him, but Ohlmarks wouldn't budge. To avoid similar problems in the future, Tolkien wrote a translation guide which later translations to other languages profited from. When the ''{{Silmarillion}}'' ''Literature/{{The Silmarillion}}'' was published, Christopher Tolkien specifically asked for another translator, and the Tolkien estate and the Swedish Tolkien fandom carried on a low-key feud with Ohlmarks until his death. One of the lowlights of this was a screed Ohlmarks wrote wherein he accused Swedish Tolkien fans of being Satanists under the control of the Tolkien estate in Oxford. In 2004 a new translation of the books was finally made. Swedish ''[=LotR=]'' fans now need to decide whether to be relieved that the errors are, at long last, corrected or to feel that TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
13th Jan '12 11:15:43 AM hoodiecrow
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||You do not know your own skill in healing||Can't you use your own healing skill to complete the cure?||(Theoden to Gandalf)|| ||What's more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||What is it to you, [[TranslationTrainWreck if you pick a fresh leaf, and hold it in your hand]] -- Then I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||(Sam to Smeagol)|| ||An hour long prepared approaches||A whole hour I've investigated how to get there||(Aragorn)|| ||But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the D˙nedain were young.||But he would have liked to know the fate of the man who wrought it slowly and artfully long ago in the North-kingdom when the D˙nedain were young.|| ||
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||You do not know your own skill in healing||Can't you use your own healing skill to complete the cure?||(Theoden cure?||Theoden to Gandalf)|| Gandalf|| ||What's more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||What is it to you, [[TranslationTrainWreck if you pick a fresh leaf, and hold it in your hand]] -- Then I'll cook you some taters one of these days.||(Sam ||Sam to Smeagol)|| Smeagol|| ||An hour long prepared approaches||A whole hour I've investigated how to get there||(Aragorn)|| ||But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the D˙nedain were young.||But he would have liked to know the fate of the man who wrought it slowly and artfully long ago in the North-kingdom when the D˙nedain were young.|| || there||Aragorn||

||[Gandalf made a pause,] getting the better of his mirth||[Gandalf paused to] give free rein to his mirth|| ||
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||[Gandalf made ||Gandalf [made a pause,] getting the better of his mirth||[Gandalf paused mirth||Gandalf [paused to] give free rein to his mirth|| ||

||torment [of CelebrÝan] in the dens of the orcs||[CelebrÝan] tortured to death by the orcs|| ||

||Prisoners are to be stripped.||Prisoners are to be whipped... and are not to be harmed.|| ||

!!Location names ||border=1 ||'''Tolkien'''||'''Ohlmarks'''|| ||The Ford of Bruinen||The Bear-ford|| ||Esgaroth||Snail-leaf|| ||Rivendell||Waterdale|| ||Isengard||Isendor / Isendale / ''Isengňrd''|| ||Quickbeam||[[AccidentalInnuendo "Quickie"]]|| ||The Entwash||Loopy Creek / Muddy River / ''The Entstream''||
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