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23rd Sep '15 12:33:20 AM Viira
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', it's noted by the heroes that the "Cosmic Cleansing Sphere" triggered through [[spoiler:Lilith crashing a ship into a temple made of Eridium]] does ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin by killing both [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]] and [[{{Mooks}} followers]] of the InsaneAdmiral Xytler. By turning their hearts into solid matter. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since they were heartless fascists]].

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', it's noted by the heroes that the "Cosmic Cleansing Sphere" triggered through [[spoiler:Lilith crashing a ship into a temple made of Eridium]] does ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin by killing both [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]] and [[{{Mooks}} followers]] of the InsaneAdmiral Xytler. By turning their hearts into solid matter. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since they were heartless fascists]].
18th Sep '15 10:01:21 PM nombretomado
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* In the MarvelComics ''EarthX'', the Cosmic Consciousness grants omniscience, but due to a strange form of observer effect will slowly make those who have even a fraction of it kinder people.

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* In the MarvelComics ''EarthX'', ''ComicBook/EarthX'', the Cosmic Consciousness grants omniscience, but due to a strange form of observer effect will slowly make those who have even a fraction of it kinder people.
14th Aug '15 7:41:38 PM wootzits
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* In ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' [[spoiler:the Strains are derived from research done on aliens that look exactly like [[{{Anvilicious}} little human girls]] and the research is supposed to continue ([[WhatHappenedToTheMouse though they don't really finish that plot thread]]) so they can achieve instantaneous communication and more with the further dissection and possible brain removal of said girls.]] [[DefectorFromDecadence Naturally, the bad guy didn't like this.]] [[FreakOut So]] [[FaceHeelTurn he decided]] [[OmnicidalManiac it would be best]] [[KillEmAll to punish humanity for this.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'', both Inuyasha's Tetsusaiga and Sesshomaru's Tenseiga were crafted specifically for them by their father to be aesoptinum. Tetsusaiga, the sword of destruction, has the power to kill one hundred demons with one swing, but only if it's wielded by a half-demon for the purpose of protecting humans. Tenseiga, the sword of healing, has the power to revive the dead but cannot harm anyone (except "minions of the underworld" which are basically a type of grim reaper like creatures). The swords are also [[EmpathicWeapon empathic weapons]], and have been known to guide their respective owners from time to time.

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* In ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' ''Anime/StrainStrategicArmoredInfantry'' [[spoiler:the Strains are derived from research done on aliens that look exactly like [[{{Anvilicious}} little human girls]] and the research is supposed to continue ([[WhatHappenedToTheMouse though they don't really finish that plot thread]]) so they can achieve instantaneous communication and more with the further dissection and possible brain removal of said girls.]] [[DefectorFromDecadence Naturally, the bad guy didn't like this.]] [[FreakOut So]] [[FaceHeelTurn he decided]] [[OmnicidalManiac it would be best]] [[KillEmAll to punish humanity for this.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'', ''Manga/InuYasha'', both Inuyasha's Tetsusaiga and Sesshomaru's Tenseiga were crafted specifically for them by their father to be aesoptinum. Tetsusaiga, the sword of destruction, has the power to kill one hundred demons with one swing, but only if it's wielded by a half-demon for the purpose of protecting humans. Tenseiga, the sword of healing, has the power to revive the dead but cannot harm anyone (except "minions of the underworld" which are basically a type of grim reaper like creatures). The swords are also [[EmpathicWeapon empathic weapons]], and have been known to guide their respective owners from time to time.
10th Aug '15 2:14:38 PM Llygodenfawr
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** In TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken, spirits are the source of all magical tools, gifts, and powers. However, spirits have their own sometimes-delicate ecosystem, and removing one (to bind it into a tool or simply destroying it because it's dangerous) can have disastrous consequences for other spirits in the area and the things they embody in the real world. Since this is a Green Aesop, sometimes _failing_ to hunt or destroy certain spirits can have similarly terrible effects.

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** In TabletopGame/WerewolfTheForsaken, spirits are the source of all magical tools, gifts, and powers. However, spirits have their own sometimes-delicate ecosystem, and removing one (to bind it into a tool or simply destroying it because it's dangerous) can have disastrous consequences for other spirits in the area and the things they embody in the real world. Since this is a Green Aesop, sometimes _failing_ ''failing'' to hunt or destroy certain spirits can have similarly terrible effects.



** The more-universal Humanity system makes morality itself a form of Phlebotenum. Each splat has a set of hierarchical sins, with things on the order of 'occasionally thinks unkind thoughts about others' at rank ten and 'genocide purely for the purposes of entertainment' at zero. Committing sins on the list below your current rank pulls you downward, while only abstaining and spending experience points can pull you up, so you tend to 'level out' at one rank above the sins your character abhors enough to avoid even when they're necessary... and, being a CrapsackWorld, staying above the rank of 'murder' is often near-impossible if you want to survive. Higher Humanity improves the natural reaction of things like spirits and muggles to your presence, and lower morality increases the chance of your splat's primary downside occurring.

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** The more-universal Humanity system makes morality itself a form of Phlebotenum.Phlebotinum. Each splat has a set of hierarchical sins, with things on the order of 'occasionally thinks unkind thoughts about others' at rank ten and 'genocide purely for the purposes of entertainment' at zero. Committing sins on the list below your current rank pulls you downward, while only abstaining and spending experience points can pull you up, so you tend to 'level out' at one rank above the sins your character abhors enough to avoid even when they're necessary... and, being a CrapsackWorld, staying above the rank of 'murder' is often near-impossible if you want to survive. Higher Humanity improves the natural reaction of things like spirits and muggles to your presence, and lower morality increases the chance of your splat's primary downside occurring.
7th Jul '15 8:18:39 AM Kalaong
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* Creator/LarryNiven openly admits to using this trope on occasion. A believer in science, high technology, and nuclear power in specific, in ''Literature/LucifersHammer'' he made the workers at a nuclear power plant heroes who were struggling to keep civilization together. They were fighting against environmental extremist, anti-technology (and very specifically, anti-''nuclear'' technology) cannibal raiders.

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* Creator/LarryNiven openly admits to regularly using this trope on occasion. A trope.
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believer in science, high technology, and nuclear power in specific, in ''Literature/LucifersHammer'' he made the workers at a nuclear power plant heroes who were struggling to keep civilization together. They were fighting against environmental extremist, anti-technology (and very specifically, anti-''nuclear'' technology) cannibal raiders.raiders.
** The organ banks in Known Space are a ''multi-tiered'' version of this; in the early 21st century of the timeline, technology was developed to indefinitely store human organs for transplant. This had three big effects; first, organ harvest became the only legal form of execution. As a result, people eventually voted for ''[[AllCrimesAreEqual every crime]]'' to merit the death penalty. As a result of ''that'', culling violence, deception and greed out of the human genome turned humanity into [[AntiIntellectualism stupid]] [[ActualPacifist wimps]] who [[ExtremeDoormat mindlessly obey the government]]. Anti-death penalty, [[DemocracyIsBad anti-mob rule]], and anti-[[TheEvilsOfFreeWill authoritarianism]] in one fell swoop.
27th Jun '15 7:11:58 PM Kid
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* A similar idea is posed as a philosophical question by Ivan to Alyosha in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov''

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* A similar idea is posed as a philosophical question by Ivan to Alyosha in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov''''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov''.
27th Jun '15 7:11:13 PM Kid
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* In ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'', both Inuyasha's Tessaiga and Sesshomaru's Tenseiga were crafted specifically for them by their father to be aesoptinum. Tessaiga, the sword of destruction, has the power to kill one hundred demons with one swing, but only if it's wielded by a half-demon for the purpose of protecting humans. Tenseiga, the sword of healing, has the power to revive the dead but cannot harm anyone (except "minions of the underworld" which are basically a type of grim reaper like creatures). The swords are also [[EmpathicWeapon empathic weapons]], and have been known to guide their respective owners from time to time.

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* In ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'', both Inuyasha's Tessaiga Tetsusaiga and Sesshomaru's Tenseiga were crafted specifically for them by their father to be aesoptinum. Tessaiga, Tetsusaiga, the sword of destruction, has the power to kill one hundred demons with one swing, but only if it's wielded by a half-demon for the purpose of protecting humans. Tenseiga, the sword of healing, has the power to revive the dead but cannot harm anyone (except "minions of the underworld" which are basically a type of grim reaper like creatures). The swords are also [[EmpathicWeapon empathic weapons]], and have been known to guide their respective owners from time to time.
27th Apr '15 7:10:47 PM SovereignGFC
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', it's noted by the heroes that the "Cosmic Cleansing Sphere" triggered through [[spoiler:Lilith crashing a ship into a temple made of Eridium]] does ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin by killing both [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]] and [[{{Mooks}} followers]] of the InsaneAdmiral Xytler. By turning their hearts into solid matter. [[DontExplainTheJoke Since they were heartless fascists]].
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28th Dec '14 3:08:03 PM Deblin
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** The more-universal Humanity system makes morality itself a form of Phlebotenum. Each splat has a set of hierarchical sins, with things on the order of 'occasionally thinks unkind thoughts about others' at rank ten and 'genocide purely for the purposes of entertainment' at zero. Committing sins on the list below your current rank pulls you downward, while only abstaining and spending experience points can pull you up, so you tend to 'level out' at one rank above the sins your character abhors enough to avoid even when they're necessary... and, being a CrapsackWorld, staying above the rank of 'murder' is often near-impossible if you want to survive. Higher Humanity improves the natural reaction of things like spirits and muggles to your presence, and lower morality increases the chance of your splat's primary downside occurring.
*** And then the downsides themselves can often lead to further sins, so the first step can lead to a bit of a vicious cycle: the downside for Mages, for instance is literal insanity, and for Werewolves it's turning into a gigantic out-of-control murder-beast whenever something provokes you. For Vampires, their humanity is almost visible, making it difficult to find food at low Humanity and thus more prone to hunger-induced killing of mortals, and Changelings can completely forget which world they are currently in.
*** Further complications arise from each splat having a different list or ranking of sins; Harmony (the Werewolf version) ranks disrespecting a pack elder or great spirit where the human version ranks multiple homicide, and the highest Wisdom (the Mage version) requires never using magic to do something that you could achieve through mundane means, essentially a 'don't use magic' rule since any magic that couldn't be done through mundane means breaks TheMasquerade.
21st Dec '14 11:01:12 AM IOwnTheSpire
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* In ''Film/{{Serenity}}'', the chemical "Pax" was created by the Alliance to sedate the populace. In case that wasn't objectionable enough to the audience, its first wide-spread test failed spectacularly, resulting in [[spoiler: nearly the entire population of a planet developing severe amotivational disorder and simply sitting quietly until they starved to death. The survivors were rendered insane and horrifically violent, becoming the Reavers.]]

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* In ''Film/{{Serenity}}'', the chemical "Pax" was created by the Alliance to sedate the populace.weed out aggression and pacify people. In case that wasn't objectionable enough to the audience, its first wide-spread test failed spectacularly, resulting in [[spoiler: nearly the entire population of a planet developing severe amotivational disorder and simply sitting quietly until they starved to death. The survivors were rendered insane and horrifically violent, becoming the Reavers.]]
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