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18th May '17 3:02:53 AM JakesBrain
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* ''Series/TwinPeaks'' has FBI forensic analyst Albert Rosenfield. His [[GoodIsNotNice cynicism and inability to suffer fools gladly]] mainly stem from the fact that he finds violence in all its forms to be a moral outrage; he cites Gandhi and King as the examples he lives by.
-->'''Albert:''' The ''only'' foundation for such a method is love. I love you, Sheriff Truman.
23rd Apr '17 10:08:50 AM nombretomado
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* The Liir from ''SwordOfTheStars'' are nearly an ''entire race'' of actual pacifists. They consider being willing to harm another creature a form of dangerous -- if sadly sometimes necessary -- insanity. The few Liir willing to take the step to hurt and kill to protect other Liir, meanwhile, take things to the opposite end. They've already broken the greatest taboo by harming another, [[TheUnfettered so at that point any question of 'scale' and 'methodology' becomes a purely symbolic distinction]].

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* The Liir from ''SwordOfTheStars'' ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'' are nearly an ''entire race'' of actual pacifists. They consider being willing to harm another creature a form of dangerous -- if sadly sometimes necessary -- insanity. The few Liir willing to take the step to hurt and kill to protect other Liir, meanwhile, take things to the opposite end. They've already broken the greatest taboo by harming another, [[TheUnfettered so at that point any question of 'scale' and 'methodology' becomes a purely symbolic distinction]].
6th Apr '17 6:53:22 AM Madrugada
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** Same applies for Annabel Drake (Alice Greczyn) in ''Exit Speed''. She is a "New Age" archer who refuses to shoot at the baddies until she realises her friend will otherwise die.

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** Same applies for * Annabel Drake (Alice Greczyn) in ''Exit Speed''. She is a "New Age" archer who refuses to shoot at the baddies until she realises her friend will otherwise die.
5th Apr '17 9:28:21 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': The Bandakar initially, who fall under the rule of the Imperial Order due to this. Most of them later abandon pacifism and kill them under Richard's guidance. It's rather {{anvilicious}} in proclaiming pacifism is stupid and wrong.

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* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': The Bandakar initially, who fall under the rule of the Imperial Order due to this. Most of them later abandon pacifism and kill them under fight with Richard's guidance. It's rather {{anvilicious}} in proclaiming pacifism is stupid and wrong.



* UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi has this reputation, but the reality is much more complicated. While he stopped the first Indo-Pakistan war by going on hunger-strike and successfully helped to end British imperialism in India non-violently, his non-violence was more of a tactic than an ethos. In the case of Britain, it was more that he was never capable of acquiring the weapons necessary for the revolution through force that he initially wanted, so a peaceful one was the next-best thing for him. Philosophically, he leaned towards the MartialPacifist, and considered violence preferable to passive acceptance.[[note]]Gandhi's philosophy of non-violent civil disobedience is frequently mistranslated as "passive resistance," but is more accurately rendered "militant non-violence."[[/note]]. His ''ahimsa'' demanded that its followers actively work to counteract violence, and espoused the use of force in the immediate defense of others.
* Martin Luther King, Jr, who took inspiration from Gandhi, also preached a message of non-violence. Like Gandhi, however, he did believe that sometimes violence was necessary.

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* UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi has this reputation, but the reality is much more complicated. While he stopped the first Indo-Pakistan war by going on hunger-strike and successfully helped to end British imperialism in India non-violently, his non-violence was more of a tactic than an ethos. In the case of Britain, it was more that he was never capable of acquiring the weapons necessary for the revolution through force that he initially wanted, so a peaceful one was the next-best thing for him. Philosophically, he leaned towards the MartialPacifist, and considered violence preferable to passive acceptance.[[note]]Gandhi's philosophy of non-violent civil disobedience is frequently mistranslated as "passive resistance," but is more accurately rendered "militant non-violence."[[/note]]. "[[/note]] His ''ahimsa'' demanded that its followers actively work to counteract violence, and espoused the use of force in the immediate defense of others.
* Martin Luther King, Jr, Jr., who took inspiration from Gandhi, also preached a message of non-violence. Like Gandhi, however, he did believe that sometimes violence was necessary.



* Christianity was originally innovative because, regardless of the reason violence is committed, it's thought of as an inherently bad thing for which one must atone. This was a radical concept a couple of millennia ago. Some sects of Christianity, typically ascetic ones such as the Quakers (Religious Society of Friends), are absolute pacifists, at in ideology.
* Taoism was all about living in harmony with everything and respecting the right of others to live the way they choose. For the more violent branch, it even has [[ToWinWithoutFighting the tactic for a pacifist]] to win a war.
* A impressive military actual pacifist was WWII veteran Desmond T. Doss, who refused to bear arms or drill on Saturday due to his Seventh-Day Adventist beliefs. Doss was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for single-handedly rescuing 75 of his fellow soldiers from an escarpment under fire from the Japanese on Okinawa. From his medal citation, "As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar and machine gun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying them 1 by 1 to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands." Truly a kick-behind pacifist.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa_in_Jainism Jains]]. Jainism includes the precept of "Ahiṃsā"; the absence of the desire to harm ''any'' life. How strictly this precept is adhered to varies, but all Jains observe it to some degree. The more fastidious Jains would only leave their house with a facemask (to make sure they do not breathe in any bugs) and a small broom (to gently sweep insects out of they way so they do not tread on them).

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* Christianity was originally innovative because, regardless of the reason violence is committed, it's thought of as an inherently bad thing for which one must atone. This was a radical concept a couple of millennia ago. Some sects of Christianity, typically ascetic ones such as the Quakers (Religious Society of Friends), are absolute pacifists, at in as an ideology.
* Taoism was is all about living in harmony with everything and respecting the right of others to live the way they choose. For the more violent branch, it even has [[ToWinWithoutFighting the tactic for a pacifist]] to win a war.
* A An impressive military actual pacifist was WWII veteran Desmond T. Doss, who refused to bear arms or drill on Saturday due to his Seventh-Day Adventist beliefs. Doss was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for single-handedly rescuing 75 of his fellow soldiers from an escarpment under fire from the Japanese on Okinawa. From his medal citation, "As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar and machine gun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying them 1 by 1 to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands." Truly a kick-behind pacifist.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa_in_Jainism Jains]]. Jainism includes the precept of "Ahiṃsā"; the absence of the desire to harm ''any'' life. How strictly this precept is adhered to varies, but all Jains observe it to some degree. The more fastidious Jains would only leave their house with a facemask face mask (to make sure they do not breathe in any bugs) and a small broom (to gently sweep insects out of they way so they do not tread on them).them). All are vegetarians, and some go so far as to eat only fruit, to not harm plants either.



* As the page quote implies, doctors are ideologically against harming others, but in modern medicine this is sometimes easier said than done. For example, chemotherapy (used to treat many cancers) is basically the use of poisons, chosen to kill cancer cells ''faster'' than they kill the rest of the patient. This is why cancer patients lose their hair (among other problems). So, doctors are sworn to do no harm, but in an effort to treat their patients' cancer, they must harm them with the chemo drugs. Applies with surgery and other practices as well obviously (the original Hippocratic Oath forbade surgery, probably because of this-in those days it was far more dangerous, before anesthetics and sanitation, with physicians being separate from surgeons).
** The idea of doctor-assisted suicide for terminal patients is one of the most controversial instances of this. Is helping someone die without pain under the definition of "do no harm?" Or is it still killing, and immoral?

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* As the page quote implies, doctors are ideologically against harming others, but in modern medicine this is sometimes easier said than done. For example, chemotherapy (used to treat many cancers) is basically the use of poisons, chosen to kill cancer cells ''faster'' than they kill the rest of the patient. This is why cancer patients lose their hair (among other problems). So, doctors are sworn to do no harm, but in an effort to treat their patients' cancer, they must harm them with the chemo drugs. Applies with surgery and other practices as well obviously (the original Hippocratic Oath forbade surgery, probably because of this-in those days it was far more dangerous, before anesthetics and sanitation, with physicians being separate from surgeons). \n** The idea of doctor-assisted suicide for terminal patients is one of the most controversial instances of this. Is helping someone die without pain under the definition of "do no harm?" Or is it still killing, harm, and immoral?immoral? By the original oath, it's forbidden, in addition to abortion (also a controversial instance of course).
5th Apr '17 9:16:44 PM Fireblood
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* Most Ithorians in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse tend towards this, holding to a Rule of Life that even applies to plants - if a plant is killed for food, two seeds of its species must be planted. [[Literature/TalesFromTheMosEisleyCantina Momaw Nadon]], forced into killing a human, creates two clones of him and raises them as his sons.

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* Most Ithorians in the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse tend towards this, holding to a Rule of Life that even applies to plants - if a plant is killed for food, two seeds of its species must be planted. [[Literature/TalesFromTheMosEisleyCantina Momaw Nadon]], forced into killing a human, when he accidentally gets an evil Imperial officer killed, creates two clones of him and raises them as his sons.




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* ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'': The Bandakar initially, who fall under the rule of the Imperial Order due to this. Most of them later abandon pacifism and kill them under Richard's guidance. It's rather {{anvilicious}} in proclaiming pacifism is stupid and wrong.
17th Mar '17 7:34:36 AM CelPrevXXVI
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** Relena Darlian-[[PropheticNames Peacecraft]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' (technically the [[FountainOfExpies source character]] for the aforementioned Marina), born to one family of pacifists and raised by another, struggles continuously with her wish to bring about total pacifism during a time of war. In the ''Endless Waltz'' movie/OVA she realizes that peace is [[ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself something you have to earn yourself]] and abandons the "passive" part of pacifism, urging the {{Muggles}} to stand up for themselves rather than just [[HoldingOutForAHero Holding Out For A Heero]].

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** Relena Darlian-[[PropheticNames Darlian / [[MeaningfulName Peacecraft]] from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' (technically the [[FountainOfExpies source character]] for the aforementioned Marina), born to one family of pacifists and raised by another, struggles continuously with her wish to bring about total pacifism during a time of war. In the ''Endless Waltz'' movie/OVA she realizes that peace is [[ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself something you have to earn yourself]] and abandons the "passive" part of pacifism, urging the {{Muggles}} to stand up for themselves rather than just [[HoldingOutForAHero Holding Out For A Heero]].
15th Mar '17 6:16:54 PM nombretomado
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* MSFHighForum:Both Alexis and Arella. (Or anyone else who has the pacifist disadvantage.)
5th Feb '17 7:35:55 PM sampacm
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* ''VideoGame/OneHundredPercentOrangeJuice'' has [=DLC=] characters Kyoko and Sweet Breaker, it's even reflected in gameplay:
** Kyoko has 5 HP and +3 Defense, but is unable to use the Evade command, and her Hyper Card, called "Crystal Barrier", allows her to skip any battle, drop panel or trap card, at the cost of 1 HP. So, your best chance is to focus efforts on star norma and keep her away from battle.
** Sweet Breaker has 6 HP (The average is 5) and neutral stats, which obviously allows her to survive for a little longer if things get rough; Her Hyper Card, called "Molten Memories", flips over all enemy cards, forcing them to play blind and actually preventing them from getting too excited to go into a fight; even the achievement for playing ten times with her is called "Champion Of Peace". [[spoiler:Although in her campaign, that doesn't stop her from fighting anyone she thinks is spreading conflict.]]
5th Feb '17 7:17:45 AM Doug86
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* Kintaro from ''GoldenBoy''. He's been beaten up several times without fighting back, except for one instance where he unleashed his [[TheSoCalledCoward Kenpo training]]. He berated himself angrily for it immediately afterwards.

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* Kintaro from ''GoldenBoy''.''Manga/GoldenBoy''. He's been beaten up several times without fighting back, except for one instance where he unleashed his [[TheSoCalledCoward Kenpo training]]. He berated himself angrily for it immediately afterwards.
30th Jan '17 1:33:26 PM kyojikasshu
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** In the episode "The Rebirth", Cerebros, has grown weary of fighting (after a few millennia of war who could blame him?). He eventually promises to fight just one last time, becoming a part of one of the most powerful Transformers ever created, on the condition that afterwards he is switched off... permanently.

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** In the episode "The Rebirth", Cerebros, has grown weary of fighting (after a few millennia of war who could blame him?). He eventually promises to fight just one last time, becoming a part of one of the most powerful Transformers ever created, on the condition that afterwards he is switched off... permanently. Optimus Prime and Spike later convince him to retire to Nebulos instead, to help the Nebulans rebuild their society and serve as their guardian, giving him something new to live for.
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