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7th Jun '16 12:56:00 PM shokoshu
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* Somewhat bending this trope a bit: Three brothers go out to save the ill princess. The first two are the usual louts. The apples from their garden would have been useless anyway, but meeting the mysterious old lady who wants to know what's in their basket, and giving her a snippish "Penises!" (your bowdlerization may vary) was an especially bad move. One guess what's in their basket when they arrive at the castle and how [[{{Pun}} screwed]] they are afterwards. The third one is polite and says what he believes, apples which shall cure the princess. (Well, technically not a lie but wishful thinking.) The witch makes this real also, cue happily ever after.
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20th May '16 11:15:49 PM foxley
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* ''ComicStrip/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'': After the fifth Golden Ticket is found, Brian spreads a rumour that one of the Golden Tickets was a forgery so he can unload his stash of Hackerjacks. However, it turns out that one the reported Golden Tickets ''is'' actually a forgery.
2nd May '16 12:39:13 PM Mitis
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11669575/5/For-Love-of-Magic For Love of Magic]]'', Harry responds to Lockhart lying to the press to mooch off Harry's fame by writing an anonymous letter to both the Ministry of Magic and Daily Prophet about concerns he has that Lockhart might be extorting sexual favors from the older female students. Harry's rather surprised to later hear of Lockhart being sentenced to sixty odd years in prison for doing just that (among other things).



* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11669575/5/For-Love-of-Magic For Love of Magic]]'', Harry responds to Lockhart lying to the press to mooch off Harry's fame by writing an anonymous letter to both the Ministry of Magic and Daily Prophet about concerns he has that Lockhart might be extorting sexual favors from the older female students. Harry's rather surprised to later hear of Lockhart being sentenced to sixty odd years in prison for doing just that (among other things).

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* ''Fanfic/ThisBites'': In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11669575/5/For-Love-of-Magic For Love of Magic]]'', Harry responds Chapter 26, Tashigi tries to Lockhart lying to throw the press to mooch Marines off Harry's fame by writing an anonymous letter to both the Ministry of Magic and Daily Prophet about concerns he has that Lockhart might be extorting sexual favors from the older female students. Harry's rather surprised Strawhat Pirates' trail by sending them to later hear of Lockhart being sentenced to sixty odd years Jaya... which is, in prison for doing just that (among other things).fact, their current location.
24th Apr '16 1:45:55 PM Phrederic
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* This is a big deal in philosophy, specifically epistemology. They're called Gettier problems, and it's an argument against the justified true belief definition of knowledge. Very, very simply it's a person having good reason to think a certain thing, then it actually being something else, then it turns out the original way. You're still right, but explaining the double-switch is a problem.
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* This is a big deal in philosophy, specifically epistemology. They're called Gettier problems, and it's an argument against the justified true belief definition of knowledge. Very, very simply it's a person having good reason to think a certain thing, then it actually being something else, then it turns out the original way. You're still right, but explaining the double-switch is a problem.
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24th Apr '16 1:45:15 PM Phrederic
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* This is a big deal in philosophy, specifically epistemology. They're called Gettier problems, and it's an argument against the justified true belief definition of knowledge. Very, very simply it's a person having good reason to think a certain thing, then it actually being something else, then it turns out the original way. You're still right, but explaining the double-switch is a problem.
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1st Apr '16 1:24:13 AM TheSinful
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11669575/5/For-Love-of-Magic For Love of Magic]]'', Harry responds to Lockhart lying to the press to mooch off Harry's fame by writing an anonymous letter to both the Ministry of Magic and Daily Prophet about concerns he has that Lockhart might be extorting sexual favors from the older female students. Harry's rather surprised to later hear of Lockhart being sentenced to sixty odd years in prison for doing just that (among other things).
15th Mar '16 4:52:38 AM BNSF1995
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* ''FanFic/TheDayEverythingChanged'': One night, Konata has a nightmare in which Kagami is brutally beaten by another girl. The next day, ''it happens''.
12th Mar '16 2:41:37 PM GrammarNavi
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* In ''ATreeGrowsInBrooklyn'', Francie Nolan claims her name is Mary Frances in order to win a doll at a charity Christmas party. She feels guilty about lying, but reasons that she can take the name Mary when she makes her Confirmation. When she announces this intention, her mother tells her she can't because her real name is Mary Frances Nolan.

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* In ''ATreeGrowsInBrooklyn'', ''Literature/ATreeGrowsInBrooklyn'', Francie Nolan claims her name is Mary Frances in order to win a doll at a charity Christmas party. She feels guilty about lying, but reasons that she can take the name Mary when she makes her Confirmation. When she announces this intention, her mother tells her she can't because her real name is Mary Frances Nolan.
25th Feb '16 3:48:21 PM Eievie
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* In the first arc of ''Comicbook/SuperiorFoesOfSpiderMan'', Boomerang's narration tells us the story of how after Silvermane's death his head survived, and was found by the son of a junkyard owner, who made it a little robot body, and they became friends. He then says that's nonsense and that Silvermane's head is ''actually'' being held by the Owl, and his masterplan is to steal it. It's then revealed that this is just what he's telling the team, and actually he's after something else, and his narration says the whole story of Silvermane's head surviving is ridiculous ... at the same time as the Shocker is at the junkyard and sees the head in its little robot body.
* In the "I'll Take Manhattan" storyline in ''Comicbook/{{Catwoman}}'', Selina Kyle is standing for mayor of New York, and the Mob has offered a bounty to take her out of the running. The Trickster comes up with the brilliant idea of starting a rumour she's secretly Catwoman ... and can't understand why the ''real'' Catwoman is so mad about this.
* PhonyPsychic Robert Lees ''[[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane claims]]'' that this is what's going on with his prophecies in ''ComicBook/FromHell''. He makes things up as he goes...and they all come true anyway.

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* In the first arc of ''Comicbook/SuperiorFoesOfSpiderMan'', Boomerang's narration tells us the story of how after Silvermane's death his head survived, and was found by the son of a junkyard owner, who made it a little robot body, and they became friends. He then says that's nonsense and that Silvermane's head is ''actually'' being held by the Owl, and his masterplan is to steal it. It's then revealed that this is just what he's telling the team, and actually he's after something else, and his narration says the whole story of Silvermane's head surviving is ridiculous ... ridiculous… at the same time as the Shocker is at the junkyard and sees the head in its little robot body.
* In the "I'll Take Manhattan" storyline in ''Comicbook/{{Catwoman}}'', Selina Kyle is standing for mayor of New York, and the Mob has offered a bounty to take her out of the running. The Trickster comes up with the brilliant idea of starting a rumour she's secretly Catwoman ... Catwoman… and can't understand why the ''real'' Catwoman is so mad about this.
* PhonyPsychic Robert Lees ''[[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane claims]]'' that this is what's going on with his prophecies in ''ComicBook/FromHell''. He makes things up as he goes...goes… and they all come true anyway.



* In [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles The Incredibles]], Bob Parr, formerly the superhero Mr. Incredible, is hired to take out a robot called the Omnidroid whose advanced A.I. meant that it had (in Bob's words) "got smart enough to wonder why it had to take orders." [[spoiler: ''That'' Omnidroid was completely under the control of the villain Syndrome, and was part of his plan to create a situation for him to pretend to resolve. However, the Omnidroid in the plan got smart enough to wonder why it had to take orders- or, more specifically be controlled by Syndrome's remote. The Omnidroid targeted the remote and took Syndrome out, resulting in Mr. Incredible having to do the job that he was fake-hired to do for real.]]

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* In [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles The Incredibles]], Bob Parr, formerly the superhero Mr. Incredible, is hired to take out a robot called the Omnidroid whose advanced A.I. meant that it had (in Bob's words) "got smart enough to wonder why it had to take orders." [[spoiler: ''That'' Omnidroid was completely under the control of the villain Syndrome, and was part of his plan to create a situation for him to pretend to resolve. However, the Omnidroid in the plan got smart enough to wonder why it had to take orders- orders -- or, more specifically be controlled by Syndrome's remote. The Omnidroid targeted the remote and took Syndrome out, resulting in Mr. Incredible having to do the job that he was fake-hired to do for real.]]



* In ''Film/LiarLiar,'' Jim Carrey is occasionally surprised at what he's "allowed" to say while [[TruthSerums cursed to tell the truth]]. For instance, he asks for a toilet break...

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* In ''Film/LiarLiar,'' Jim Carrey is occasionally surprised at what he's "allowed" to say while [[TruthSerums cursed to tell the truth]]. For instance, he asks for a toilet break...break…



'''Fletcher''': (crestfallen) ''Yes'', it can. ...''but I've heard'' [emphasis added] that if you hold it you can damage the prostate gland, making it verrrry difficult to get an erection or ''even become aroused''!\\

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'''Fletcher''': (crestfallen) ''Yes'', it can. ...''but ''…but I've heard'' [emphasis added] that if you hold it you can damage the prostate gland, making it verrrry difficult to get an erection or ''even become aroused''!\\



'''Fletcher''': ...It ''has'' to be!\\
'''Stevens''': ...In that case, I'd better take a short break myself.

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'''Fletcher''': ...It '''Fletcher''': …it ''has'' to be!\\
'''Stevens''': ...In '''Stevens''': …in that case, I'd better take a short break myself.



* There's a pretty brutal version of it in ''The Wall'' by Jean Paul Sartre. A political prisoner is given the choice between execution or turning traitor and giving the location of a collaborator. At the last moment, he delays the execution by making up a location so that the army will look foolish, knowing full well that the collaborator is hiding far away from there. The army searches...and it turns out the collaborator had to switch hiding spots to that location. He is killed, and the man goes free.

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* There's a pretty brutal version of it in ''The Wall'' by Jean Paul Sartre. A political prisoner is given the choice between execution or turning traitor and giving the location of a collaborator. At the last moment, he delays the execution by making up a location so that the army will look foolish, knowing full well that the collaborator is hiding far away from there. The army searches...searches… and it turns out the collaborator had to switch hiding spots to that location. He is killed, and the man goes free.



** Another example is in Piper's novel ''The Cosmic Computer'', in which the protagonist travels to Earth to investigate local stories about an abandoned [[MasterComputer supercomputer]] left behind after a recent war. He concludes that the computer never existed, but backs off from attempts to convince people of that; instead, he organizes a search in order to stimulate the economy and improve morale. And then the supercomputer turns up....

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** Another example is in Piper's novel ''The Cosmic Computer'', in which the protagonist travels to Earth to investigate local stories about an abandoned [[MasterComputer supercomputer]] left behind after a recent war. He concludes that the computer never existed, but backs off from attempts to convince people of that; instead, he organizes a search in order to stimulate the economy and improve morale. And then the supercomputer turns up....up…



** Made interesting because one of the messages of the book is that people sometimes tell what's true but write what they wish was true. If (as a lot of people do) you start thinking of Francie as the author's avatar...

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** Made interesting because one of the messages of the book is that people sometimes tell what's true but write what they wish was true. If (as a lot of people do) you start thinking of Francie as the author's avatar...avatar…



* Played with in an episode of ''Series/BurnNotice''--Michael goes to a lot of trouble FramingTheGuiltyParty as being an undercover cop, only he hid the fake evidence a little too well, and the guy's boss almost doesn't find it. At the last moment, he finds... different evidence. Turns out the guy ''was'' an undercover cop; cue OhCrap moment.
* In Season 7, episode 9 of ''Series/TheAmazingRace'', [[TooCleverByHalf Rob Mariano]] decided to have some fun with Meredith & Gretchen and asked them if they had gotten on the earlier flight to Turkey in spite of there not being one...except that it turned out that there ''was'' in fact one, which Meredith & Gretchen and Uchenna & Joyce got on, leaving Rob & Amber and Ron & Kelly in the dust. Rob, not knowing this, kept on laughing at and trash-talking these two teams until he learned in Turkey that he and Amber were actually two hours behind them. LaserGuidedKarma at its finest.

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* Played with in an episode of ''Series/BurnNotice''--Michael goes to a lot of trouble FramingTheGuiltyParty as being an undercover cop, only he hid the fake evidence a little too well, and the guy's boss almost doesn't find it. At the last moment, he finds... finds… different evidence. Turns out the guy ''was'' an undercover cop; cue OhCrap moment.
* In Season 7, episode 9 of ''Series/TheAmazingRace'', [[TooCleverByHalf Rob Mariano]] decided to have some fun with Meredith & Gretchen and asked them if they had gotten on the earlier flight to Turkey in spite of there not being one...one… except that it turned out that there ''was'' in fact one, which Meredith & Gretchen and Uchenna & Joyce got on, leaving Rob & Amber and Ron & Kelly in the dust. Rob, not knowing this, kept on laughing at and trash-talking these two teams until he learned in Turkey that he and Amber were actually two hours behind them. LaserGuidedKarma at its finest.finest.
* ''Series/MagnificentCentury'': In the first season, Hürrem claims to be pregnant to avoid being sent away from the harem. She's lying, and everyone else is pretty sure of it too, so a doctor inspects her to find out. Turns out she actually ''was'' in the early stages of pregnancy and just didn't know yet.
2nd Feb '16 8:15:45 AM erforce
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* In ''JingleAllTheWay'', the postal worker bluffs the police by claiming a package he's holding is a mail bomb. To his own surprise, it is.

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* In ''JingleAllTheWay'', ''Film/JingleAllTheWay'', the postal worker bluffs the police by claiming a package he's holding is a mail bomb. To his own surprise, it is.
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