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5th May '16 5:33:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Shakara}}'': When Eva Cropocio confronts Overlord [[spoiler:Cinnibar Breneka]] about how he could have gone [[FallenHero from the greatest force of good in the galaxy to the greatest force of evil]], he tells her that he has moved beyond such moral frameworks.
16th Apr '16 4:27:55 PM DarkHunter
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': King Kai describes Beerus, the God of Destruction, in these terms. When he tells Goku that Beerus tends to blow up a lot of planets, Goku immediately assumes that Beerus is a bad guy. King Kai responds that Goku's thinking about it the wrong way: Beerus's "job" and the whole reason for his existence is to destroy things, and his destruction of things is necessary for the upholding of cosmic balance across the universe.
9th Apr '16 9:38:44 PM LueyTheFighter
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* Yato of ''Anime/{{Noragami}}'' is a god, and therefore does not give a fuck and [[spoiler: has killed many people and shinki before.]]

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* Yato of ''Anime/{{Noragami}}'' is a god, and therefore does not give a fuck care at all and [[spoiler: has killed many people and shinki before.]]
4th Apr '16 8:33:08 PM 99-cells
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* ''Fanfic/MaimDeMaim'': Ryuko Kiryuin throughout the first half of the fiction was practically queen of this trope.
21st Mar '16 5:33:09 AM Paireon
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* Emperor Charles Zi Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' fancies himself as this. He calls the war between the Black Knights and Britannia, (to the rest of the characters the most important thing in the world) 'mundane matters'. [[spoiler: He sees his attempt at killing god (the collective human consciousness), to bring forth a world unified in stagnation, as beyond such worldly concerns.]]
* Yato of Noragami is a god, and therefore does not give a fuck and [[spoiler: has killed many people and shinki before.]]

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* Emperor Charles Zi Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' fancies himself as this. He calls the war between the Black Knights and Britannia, Britannia (to the rest of the characters the most important thing in the world) 'mundane matters'. [[spoiler: He sees his attempt at killing god (the collective human consciousness), to bring forth a world unified in stagnation, as beyond such worldly concerns.]]
* Yato of Noragami ''Anime/{{Noragami}}'' is a god, and therefore does not give a fuck and [[spoiler: has killed many people and shinki before.]]



** One more recent explanation is that there is an EldritchAbomination for which [[SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan he is the seal]], so if he doesn't get enough energy to keep the seal up, the entire ''multiverse'' gets destroyed - and the only great enough source of calories is planets.

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** One more recent explanation is that there is an OmnicidalManiac EldritchAbomination for which [[SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan he is the seal]], so if he doesn't get enough energy to keep the seal up, the entire ''multiverse'' gets destroyed - and the only great enough source of calories is planets.



* Dr. Manhattan from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'' expresses this attitude. He just did not care about humanity anymore, [[spoiler: until Laurie showed him that the complexity and drama of human existence.]]

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* Dr. Manhattan from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'' expresses this attitude. He just did not care about humanity anymore, [[spoiler: until Laurie showed him that the complexity and drama of human existence.]]



* Shockwave in the IDW continuity falls under the ForScience aspect. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' [[spoiler: he was one of the few good higher class mechs and scientists, who strove to improve the lives of everyone and stop the energy crisis. He then had his emotions removed and his body mutilated by an enemy, he lost all of his empathy with it.]] Now Shockwave doesn't believe in good, nor evil, just logic. As such he feels no altruism nor malice. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise'' he admits his goal is to create renewable energy and save the planet, all other mechs are raw materials or a means to an end. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMaximumDinobots'', Grimlock's cost him a few million years of his time, Scorponok's blown off a piece of his chest and the Humans have tried to blow him up, when he outmaneuvers all of them, he doesn't go for revenge or even kill anyone he just leaves because he just doesn't care. His actions in the present have him [[spoiler: creating an Ore which can resurrect cybertronians, and with it he turns life and death into mere data for him to manipulate.]]

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* Shockwave in the IDW continuity falls under the ForScience aspect. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' [[spoiler: he was one of the few good higher class mechs and scientists, who strove to improve the lives of everyone and stop the energy crisis. He then had his emotions removed and his body mutilated by an enemy, he lost all of his empathy with it.]] Now Shockwave doesn't believe in good, nor evil, just logic. As such he feels no altruism nor malice. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise'' he admits his goal is to create renewable energy and save the planet, all other mechs are raw materials or a means to an end. In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMaximumDinobots'', Grimlock's cost him a few million years of his time, Scorponok's blown off a piece of his chest and the Humans have tried to blow him up, up; when he outmaneuvers all of them, he doesn't go for revenge or even kill anyone anyone, he just leaves because he just doesn't care. His actions in the present have him [[spoiler: creating an Ore which can resurrect cybertronians, and with it he turns life and death into mere data for him to manipulate.]]



* In Creator/DorothyLSayers' ''Whose Body?'', LordPeterWimsey find this attitude a clue to the murderer.

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* In Creator/DorothyLSayers' ''Whose Body?'', LordPeterWimsey find finds this attitude a clue to the murderer.



* A member of the Cthulhu Cult in [[Creator/HPLovecraft Lovecraft's]] "The Call of Cthulhu" explains that the time of the return of the [[EldritchAbomination Great Old Ones]] will be when mankind has become as them, "free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and reveling in joy." It's no wonder only two of the dozens of members arrested for ritual murders were found sane enough to be hanged.

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* A member of the Cthulhu {{Cthulhu|Mythos}} Cult in [[Creator/HPLovecraft Lovecraft's]] "The Call of Cthulhu" explains that the time of the return of the [[EldritchAbomination Great Old Ones]] will be when mankind has become as them, "free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and reveling in joy." It's no wonder only two of the dozens of members arrested for ritual murders were found sane enough to be hanged.
20th Mar '16 8:33:16 PM Sanokal
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* ''Anime/YuGiOhARCV'': Jack Atlas doesn't give a rat's ass about the Tops vs. Commons conflict or the Academia war (though he doesn't know about the latter); nor does he care about Roget's schemes. All he cares about are good and true duelists.
20th Mar '16 1:38:41 PM hubakon1368
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* ''Fanfic/TheBridge'': Despite being an OmnicidalManiac who completely rejects concepts like love, friendship, and mercy, Bagan proclaims that he's not evil, he's extinction, and extinction is inevitable. This possibly the reason why he was able to [[BreakingTheBonds shatter a chain]] that grows stronger the more evil the prisoner is.

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* ''Fanfic/TheBridge'': Despite being an OmnicidalManiac who completely rejects concepts like love, friendship, and mercy, Bagan proclaims that he's not evil, he's extinction, and extinction is inevitable. This is possibly the reason why he was able to [[BreakingTheBonds shatter a chain]] that grows stronger the more evil the prisoner is.
27th Feb '16 5:58:54 PM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/TheBridge'': Despite being an OmnicidalManiac who completely rejects concepts like love, friendship, and mercy, Bagan proclaims that he's not evil, he's extinction, and extinction is inevitable. This possibly the reason why he was able to [[BreakingTheBonds shatter a chain]] that grows stronger the more evil the prisoner is.
* ''Fanfic/HarmonyTheory'': The murderer Charisma boasts to Rainbow Dash, "I'm not evil, hot stuff. And I'm not good, either. I'm just the best."
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13th Feb '16 12:10:23 PM ZimFan89
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* [[TheSwordThatSpeaks Nightblood]] from ''Literature/Warbreaker]] is either above good and evil or ''below'' it, depending on how you look at it. Completely amoral either way, which is a ''bit'' of a problem as it was created specifically to ''destroy'' evil. Being a sword and not a person, Nightblood has no idea what "evil" actually ''is'' (even its DetectEvil ability is flawed, as it mostly targets superficial destructive impulses and sufficiently clever bad guys don't seem to ping at all) and mostly just tries to goad its wielder to kill everyone in sight, just to be on the safe side. They might be evil - you never know! All in all, an object lesson in why trying to count on an inanimate object sharing human morality is unlikely to end well.

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* [[TheSwordThatSpeaks Nightblood]] from ''Literature/Warbreaker]] ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' is either above good and evil or ''below'' it, depending on how you look at it. Completely amoral either way, which is a ''bit'' of a problem as it was created specifically to ''destroy'' evil. Being a sword and not a person, Nightblood has no idea what "evil" actually ''is'' (even its DetectEvil ability is flawed, as it mostly targets superficial destructive impulses and sufficiently clever bad guys don't seem to ping at all) and mostly just tries to goad its wielder to kill everyone in sight, just to be on the safe side. They might be evil - you never know! All in all, an object lesson in why trying to count on an inanimate object sharing human morality is unlikely to end well.
19th Dec '15 2:31:36 PM nombretomado
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* In AdrianTchaikovsky's ''[[ShadowsOfTheApt Dragonfly Falling]]'', a Wasp slave justifies herself on the grounds there is no good or evil, just people doing things.

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* In AdrianTchaikovsky's ''[[ShadowsOfTheApt Creator/AdrianTchaikovsky's ''[[Literature/ShadowsOfTheApt Dragonfly Falling]]'', a Wasp slave justifies herself on the grounds there is no good or evil, just people doing things.
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