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5th Mar '18 6:55:14 AM TheKaizerreich
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* Career diplomats and intelligence officers often develop a version of this trope where good and evil fade into nothingness before ''[[MyCountryRightOrWrong nation.]]''
** And those are the good ones. The bad ones replace Nation with [[CorruptBureaucrat Promotion]].

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* Career Good career diplomats and intelligence officers often develop a version of this trope where good and evil fade into nothingness before ''[[MyCountryRightOrWrong [[MyCountryRightOrWrong nation.]]''
** And those are the good ones. The bad ones
]] ''Bad ones'' replace Nation with [[CorruptBureaucrat Promotion]].
9th Feb '18 6:40:04 AM MasterFuzzy
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*** Dooku might be considered another example of this in that he seems to want the Jedi to open themselves to the dark side and rule the Republic unhindered by the Senate or any other corrupt bureaucracy, believing that the dark side could be used to positive effect if one was just in one's heart, especially as depicted in the Dark Horse comics.

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*** Dooku might be considered another example of this in that he seems to want the Jedi to open themselves to the dark side and rule the Republic unhindered by the Senate or any other corrupt bureaucracy, believing that the dark side could be used to positive effect if one was just in one's heart, especially as depicted in the Dark Horse comics. Then again, given that he's a BadBoss and flat-out villain with very, very few PetTheDog moments, he's not exactly practicing what he preaches there.
** Many Sith, as a matter of fact, such as Dooku and Darth Caedus in ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' keep trying to use the Dark Side for good, but end up just becoming flat-out evil. Apparently, no one's gotten the memo yet, even after thousands of years. Go figure.
6th Feb '18 4:39:43 PM Heartlesswithaheart
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* [[spoiler:The evil wizard, Werdna,]] becomes this in the secret ending of ''[[VideoGame/{{Wizardry}} Wizardry IV: The Return of Werdna]]'' after walking the Tree of Life and achieving enlightenment, breaking free of all his worldly desires.
23rd Jan '18 7:05:50 AM SeptimusHeap
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* A repeating theme in the {{Manowar}} song "The Power".

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* A repeating theme in the {{Manowar}} Music/{{Manowar}} song "The Power".
1st Jan '18 8:58:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate The Doctor]] from ''Film/{{Amen}}''.

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* [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate The Doctor]] from ''Film/{{Amen}}''.''Film/{{Amen}}'' remarks after witnessing a gassing that it is "quite horrible", but believes it is necessary to subdue his conscience for the sake of the ideals of Nazism.
3rd Dec '17 1:04:08 PM nombretomado
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* Rhynn and Kwll are two elder gods in Creator/MichaelMoorcock's ''{{Corum}}'' series. They claim to be above the divine squabbling, and are actually unbound by the Cosmic Balance. [[spoiler:''By the end of the series, Corum gets Kwll to slaughter the entire pantheon of Chaos. Then, for good measure, Kwll decides to off all the Law gods too.'']]

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* Rhynn and Kwll are two elder gods in Creator/MichaelMoorcock's ''{{Corum}}'' ''Literature/{{Corum}}'' series. They claim to be above the divine squabbling, and are actually unbound by the Cosmic Balance. [[spoiler:''By the end of the series, Corum gets Kwll to slaughter the entire pantheon of Chaos. Then, for good measure, Kwll decides to off all the Law gods too.'']]
12th Nov '17 11:33:37 PM XenMon2
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* Judge Holden from ''Literature/BloodMeridian'' criticizes morality as being "an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak" and ultimately irrelevant next to "historical law." It's implied that this is why he survives the story (beyond the potential [[AmbiguouslyHuman supernatural reasons]]): His total lack of a moral compass allows him to devote himself to violence without compromising his sanity, while everyone around him snaps.
5th Nov '17 2:22:53 PM animenutcase
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the Anomaly. After all, the world of Undertale is fictional [[spoiler:and you aren't]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the Anomaly.Anomaly [[spoiler:AKA the player]]. After all, the world of Undertale is fictional [[spoiler:and you aren't]]. That being said, if you choose a No Mercy run, the game ''will'' attempt to say that no, the Anomaly isn't.
5th Nov '17 2:21:50 PM animenutcase
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has the Anomaly. After all, the world of Undertale is fictional [[spoiler:and you aren't]].
30th Oct '17 6:20:18 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Associated with TheUbermensch and the StrawNihilist, along with any other things Nietzsche-related. Other people who can claim this trope include particularly megalomaniacal [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] with [[AGodAmI delusions of godhood]], [[TheSociopath sociopaths]], [[ForScience scientists who do not let moral-societal opinions interfere with their quest for empirical knowledge]], [[BewareTheSuperman superpowerful beings corrupted by power]], or just someone with BlueAndOrangeMorality. Can be a sign of an EldritchAbomination and such creatures beyond standard human morality, thus very common in a CosmicHorrorStory and narratives where NatureIsNotNice.

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Associated with TheUbermensch and the StrawNihilist, along with any other things Nietzsche-related. Other people who can claim this trope include includes particularly megalomaniacal [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] with [[AGodAmI delusions of godhood]], [[TheSociopath sociopaths]], [[ForScience scientists who do not let moral-societal opinions interfere with their quest for empirical knowledge]], [[BewareTheSuperman superpowerful beings corrupted by power]], or just someone with BlueAndOrangeMorality. Can It can be a sign of an EldritchAbomination and such creatures beyond standard human morality, thus very common in a CosmicHorrorStory and narratives where NatureIsNotNice.



* Gilgamesh from ''LightNovel/FateZero'' describes himself as such. He is absolute. As a true king, justice is unnecessary to him. An interesting case as it is not necessarily considered an evil point of view, though Saber is disgusted. [[spoiler: It might even be taken literally as even all the world's evil is unable to corrupt such an "absolute existence."]]

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* Gilgamesh from ''LightNovel/FateZero'' describes himself as such. He is absolute. As a true king, justice is unnecessary to him. An It is an interesting case as it is not necessarily considered an evil point of view, though Saber is disgusted. [[spoiler: It might even be taken literally as even all the world's evil is unable to corrupt such an "absolute existence."]]


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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': Neuro declares that his patron deity, Lord Death, is this. Explicitly, "Death treats all the same. From his position above good and evil, above chaos and order, only Death is truly fair; only Death is truly just". When Lord Death appears in person, he is apathetic to the concerns of mortals. The {{psychopomp}}s and clerics that work for him are expected to emulate his example because they are not this by nature.
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