History Main / ALighterShadeOfBlack

9th Apr '17 12:43:37 AM infernape612
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** A lot of the victims the Predators kill in many of the films and video games are {{Asshole Victim}}s: either gang leaders, thugs, criminals, rapists, or child-abusers (this is evident in ''Film/{{Predator2}}'' where the Predator was killing a bunch of gang leaders and their henchmen). The Predators follow a strict code of honor and even helped develop some of the greatest civilizations in history (i.e. the Aztec Empire, Ancient Egyptians, and the Khmer Empire). The reason the Predators are considered antagonists is because many of the protagonists in such works are law enforcement officers or military personnel (which the Predators consider to be {{Worthy Opponent}}s since many of them are capable of fighting back).

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** A lot of the victims the Predators kill in many of the films and video games are {{Asshole Victim}}s: either gang leaders, thugs, criminals, rapists, or child-abusers (this is evident in ''Film/{{Predator2}}'' ''Film/{{Predator 2}}'' where the Predator was killing a bunch of gang leaders and their henchmen). The Predators follow a strict code of honor and even helped develop some of the greatest civilizations in history (i.e. the Aztec Empire, Ancient Egyptians, and the Khmer Empire). The reason the Predators are considered antagonists is because many of the protagonists in such works are law enforcement officers or military personnel (which the Predators consider to be {{Worthy Opponent}}s since many of them are capable of fighting back).
11th Mar '17 8:39:46 PM jormis29
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* ''Ezra's Gamble'' is about BountyHunter Bossk and StreetUrchin Ezra Bridger fighting a criminal and a corrupt and murderous Imperial officer in cahoots with him. Bossk himself only comes across as evil in other ''Franchise/StarWars'' stories, not in this one. [[spoiler:Until the reward he promised Ezra turns out to be significantly smaller than implied.]]

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* ''Ezra's Gamble'' ''Literature/EzrasGamble'' is about BountyHunter Bossk and StreetUrchin Ezra Bridger fighting a criminal and a corrupt and murderous Imperial officer in cahoots with him. Bossk himself only comes across as evil in other ''Franchise/StarWars'' stories, not in this one. [[spoiler:Until the reward he promised Ezra turns out to be significantly smaller than implied.]]
1st Mar '17 12:22:44 AM TheSinful
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* The entity possessing Naruto (implied to be the Kyuubi) in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12330403/1/Conquering-Eostia Conquering Eostia]]'' wants to rule Eostia, but more so wants to claims the seven Princess-Knights along with Dark Elf Queen Olga and her guard Chloe. On the other hand, he's also fighting against Volt and his Kuroinu Mercenaries who want to turn Eostia into a living hell where all women are considered sex slaves and public property. In the end, the main differences are the (possibly) Kyuubi takes care of his slaves, has no interest in anyone but the nine mentioned, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards actually has a few morals]].
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25th Feb '17 3:36:18 PM Tehrannotaur
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'': [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Rem]] [[LampshadeHanging agrees]], while Light Yagami may be a bastard he isn't as bad as [[spoiler:Kyosuke Higuchi]].

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* ''Manga/DeathNote'': [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Rem]] [[LampshadeHanging agrees]], while Light Yagami may be a bastard he isn't as bad as [[spoiler:Kyosuke Higuchi]].Higuchi]], though that's debatable as Light is genuinely evil and dangerous.
21st Feb '17 6:31:19 AM benda
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* Every character in ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'' is a Nazi and have enthusiastically engaged in war crimes, so they're all evil. Yet [[AntiVillain Dr. Wilhelm Kritzinger]], while still a proud servant of the Fuehrer who's glad to oppress the Jewish people, is the only one appalled by the concept of complete extermination. This is a HistoricalHeroUpgrade for him-- the movie is about the Wannsee Conference which discussed details of the Holocaust, but the records show that neither Kritzinger nor anybody else objected to the genocide at the time, not least because it was already well underway-- the point of the conference was not to start the Holocaust, but to make sure it happened efficiently.

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* Every character in ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'' is a Nazi and have enthusiastically engaged in war crimes, so they're all evil. Yet [[AntiVillain Dr. Wilhelm Kritzinger]], while still a proud servant of the Fuehrer who's glad to oppress the Jewish people, is the only one appalled by the concept of complete extermination. This is a HistoricalHeroUpgrade for him-- the movie is about the Wannsee Conference which discussed details of the Holocaust, but the records (admittedly compiled by those in charge of the proposed measures) show that neither Kritzinger nor anybody else nobody objected to the genocide at the time, not least because it was already well underway-- the point of the conference was not to start the Holocaust, but to make sure it happened efficiently.efficiently. Kritzinger ''did'' try to resign soon after, but whether and how it was related to the conference is anyone's guess. He was ashamed about the whole thing after the war though.
10th Jan '17 12:49:10 PM Prometheus117
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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'': The Jaegars can be very ruthless, but they are not barbarians. They don't indiscriminately kill the Empire's citizens unless they suspect them to working with LaResistance. Every member at least have their own share PetTheDog moments. This is very stark contrast to Wild Hunt where they are willing to kill the Empire's citizens for any reason ([[ForTheEvulz even for fun]]).

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* ''Manga/AkameGaKill'': The Jaegars can be very ruthless, but they are not barbarians. They don't indiscriminately kill the Empire's citizens unless they suspect them to working with LaResistance. Every member at least have their own share PetTheDog moments. This is very stark contrast to Wild Hunt where they are willing to kill the Empire's citizens for any reason ([[ForTheEvulz even for fun]]). In fact, considering the state of [[CorruptPolitician the Empire's government]], the Jaegars come across as the [[NobleTopEnforcer the best possible hope of protection for the Empire's citizens]].
23rd Dec '16 9:26:34 AM Valiona
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* Lampshaded in the ''Magazine/{{Mad}}'' parody of Film/TradingPlaces, after the main characters ruin the Duke brothers.
-->"I know those two old guys were ruthless... but compared to these two sharks, they were damn-near lovable!!"
2nd Nov '16 6:16:41 PM Ramidel
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** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' spoiler: [[spoiler:[[InvokedTrope Invoked]] by [[BigBad Haman Khan]] as she tries to [[EnemyMine convince Judau to ally with her]] against [[TheStarscream Glemmy Toto]]. Haman explains that she's just a conqueror who doesn't believe in the Zabi name she's using as a flag, but Glemmy does, and Glemmy will drown the Earth Sphere in blood because of it. [[ShutUpHannibal Judau doesn't buy it]]; as far as he can tell, Haman and Glemmy are exactly the same, and he's not going to pick one above the other.]]

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** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ'' spoiler: [[spoiler:[[InvokedTrope Invoked]] by [[BigBad Haman Khan]] as she tries to [[EnemyMine convince Judau to ally with her]] against [[TheStarscream Glemmy Toto]]. Haman explains that she's just a conqueror who doesn't believe in the Zabi name she's using as a flag, but Glemmy does, and Glemmy will drown the Earth Sphere in blood because of it. [[ShutUpHannibal Judau doesn't buy it]]; it; as far as he can tell, Haman and Glemmy are exactly the same, and he's not going to pick one above the other.]]
23rd Sep '16 3:58:28 PM Scorntex
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* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye:'' Mentioned in-universe. Sentinel Prime was, during his life, a violent, murderous, arrogant fascist who killed the guy before him to get the job. But, as Brainstorm notes, the last thing he did in life was fight the newly emergent [[BigBad Megatron]], so he gets to be remembered as a hero. Not so much with the readers, who're more likely to side with Megs, who at the time was trying to overthrow an oppressive regime with a fondness for [[KickTheDog kicking every dog they could find]].
6th Sep '16 4:34:29 AM HTD
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* This is what ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' has instead of Good versus Evil, and is presumably what fans of the Lighter Black factions (Tau, Eldar, the Imperium) see in playing on the side of such horrible people; they're fighting against the very incarnations of cruelty (Dark Eldar), death (Necrons), savagery (Orks), consumption (Tyranids) and, well, Chaos.

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* This is what ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' has instead of Good versus Evil, and is presumably what fans of the Lighter Black factions (Tau, Craftworld Eldar, the Imperium) Imperium, Necrons) see in playing on the side of such horrible people; they're fighting against the very incarnations of cruelty (Dark Eldar), death (Necrons), savagery (Orks), consumption (Tyranids) and, well, Chaos.



** Most (non-Dark) Eldar default to this. Like the Imperium, they consider all other races to be worthless compared to their own citizens; unlike the Imperium, they usually don't [[AbsoluteXenophobe actively try to exterminate outsiders]] that don't get in their way, and mostly just want to be left alone. The rare few Necron factions who aren't utterly psychotic {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s are similar in that regard.

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** Most (non-Dark) Eldar default to this. Like the Imperium, they consider all other races to be worthless compared to their own citizens; unlike the Imperium, they usually don't [[AbsoluteXenophobe actively try to exterminate outsiders]] that don't get in their way, and mostly just want to be left alone. The rare few Necron factions Necrons who aren't utterly psychotic {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s are similar in that regard.
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