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9th Oct '17 2:03:41 AM FlashRebel
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* ''{{Lackadaisy}}'' is about a gang war between two booze joints in the 20's USA. The eponyous Lackadaisy gang is mostly presented as a group of good friends and underdogs who got into organized crime due to circumstances or for some of them out of desperation, while the rival Marigold gang is a group of experienced and hardened criminals who seem to enjoy their job way too much and have very few (if any) redeeming qualities.
24th Sep '17 9:19:08 AM nombretomado
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* In the ''[[BattleTechExpandedUniverse [=BattleTech=]]]'' novel ''Bred for War'', [[spoiler:the assassin responsible for the death of Melissa Steiner-Davion in an earlier book]] gets this treatment. When a new "revolutionary" government takes over the planet he'd been thinking about going into retirement on, it turns out to be sufficiently nasty that even his disregard for collateral damage in leading LaResistance and his [[spoiler:leaving his local girlfriend to be captured and killed]] as a distraction can't quite quench the admiration for his [[MagnificentBastard magnificent bastardry]]. (It helps that he only reveals his real identity at the end of the subplot -- even to the reader.)

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* In the ''[[BattleTechExpandedUniverse ''[[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse [=BattleTech=]]]'' novel ''Bred for War'', [[spoiler:the assassin responsible for the death of Melissa Steiner-Davion in an earlier book]] gets this treatment. When a new "revolutionary" government takes over the planet he'd been thinking about going into retirement on, it turns out to be sufficiently nasty that even his disregard for collateral damage in leading LaResistance and his [[spoiler:leaving his local girlfriend to be captured and killed]] as a distraction can't quite quench the admiration for his [[MagnificentBastard magnificent bastardry]]. (It helps that he only reveals his real identity at the end of the subplot -- even to the reader.)
22nd Sep '17 7:30:33 AM Joylock
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* In ''Film/FreddyVsJason,'' Jason is often read this way, since at least he's not a children-killing scumbag with pedophilic undertones who stretches out his victims' deaths out of sheer sadism. That and Freddy can go just about anywhere whereas Jason only sticks to his home place. On the flip side, Jason racks up a ''way'' bigger body count than Freddy does (which is actually Freddy's motive for fighting him-- he is killing kids Freddy has targeted), is clearly out of control, and is slaughtering teenagers by the dozen seemingly ForTheEvulz, so...

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* In ''Film/FreddyVsJason,'' Jason is often read this way, since at least he's not a children-killing scumbag with pedophilic undertones who stretches out his victims' deaths out of sheer sadism. That and Freddy can go just about anywhere whereas Jason only sticks to his home place. On the flip side, Jason racks up a ''way'' bigger body count than Freddy does (which is actually Freddy's motive for fighting him-- he is killing kids Freddy has targeted), is clearly out of control, and is slaughtering teenagers by the dozen seemingly ForTheEvulz, so... Also, on a metaphysical level, there's the fact Freddy explicitly steals the souls of his victims, whereas Jason just kills people.
28th Aug '17 5:44:21 PM eroock
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-->--'''Wade Wilson''', ''Film/Deadpool2016''

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-->--'''Wade -->-- '''Wade Wilson''', ''Film/Deadpool2016''
8th Aug '17 9:10:28 AM dlchen145
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* In [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire]] you got two gangs competing with each other: Team Magma, who want to expand the landmass to further develop civilization and Team Aqua, who want to expand the oceans so Pokemon will have more places to live. One of the teams will will resort to kidnapping, robbery and awakening dangerous OlympusMons to further their ideals, while the other, while not really sympathetic towards you, will help you defeat them. Which team is the lighter shade of black depends on which version you're playing.

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* In [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire]] you got two gangs competing with each other: Team Magma, who want to expand the landmass to further develop civilization and Team Aqua, who want to expand the oceans so Pokemon will have more places to live. One of the teams will will resort to kidnapping, robbery and awakening dangerous OlympusMons to further their ideals, while the other, while not really sympathetic towards you, will help you defeat them. Which team is the lighter shade of black depends on which version you're playing.
3rd Aug '17 10:58:20 AM LavonPapillon1
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* Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold from ''Series/OnceUponATime'' fits this trope throughout the series. While most other villains in the series either die or become active heroes ([[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]] at worst), Rumpelstiltskin holds his ChaoticNeutral position all the way through. He usually [[LackOfEmpathy keeps out of the affairs of the savior and her friends and family unless he benefits from them in some way]] (either through a deal or a common goal) or if the villain they face threaten him or [[spoiler:Belle]] directly, flip-flopping between AntiHero, AntiVillain and straight up menace throughout.
29th Jul '17 7:07:12 PM Stitchlips
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* In the lore of {{VideoGame/Overwatch}}, Hanzo Shimada is the heir to a powerful yakuza clan, groomed to be such from the day he was born. He also killed his brother (or so he assumed), but it's heavily implied that Hanzo didn't want to go through with it and he spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. Hanzo is definitely an asshole and a morally ''dark'' gray character, but he also despises his family for what they made him do.

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* In the lore of {{VideoGame/Overwatch}}, Hanzo Shimada is the heir to a powerful yakuza clan, groomed to be such from the day he was born. He also killed his brother (or so he assumed), but it's heavily implied that Hanzo didn't want to go through with it and he spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. Hanzo is definitely an asshole a rude asshole, a ruthless assassin, and a morally ''dark'' gray character, but he also despises his family for what they made him do.
29th Jul '17 7:06:01 PM Stitchlips
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* In the lore of ''VideoGame/Overwatch'', Hanzo Shimada is the heir to a powerful yakuza clan, groomed to be such from the day he was born. He also killed his brother (or so he assumed), but it's heavily implied that Hanzo didn't want to go through with it and he spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. Hanzo is the 'Lighter' to the Shimada Clan's 'Darker', wherein he's definitely still an asshole and a morally gray character, but still went after his former family for forcing him to do what he did. He also denies joining up with [[BigBad Talon]], though whether this is based more on his morals or his pride is still up for debate.

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* In the lore of ''VideoGame/Overwatch'', {{VideoGame/Overwatch}}, Hanzo Shimada is the heir to a powerful yakuza clan, groomed to be such from the day he was born. He also killed his brother (or so he assumed), but it's heavily implied that Hanzo didn't want to go through with it and he spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. Hanzo is the 'Lighter' to the Shimada Clan's 'Darker', wherein he's definitely still an asshole and a morally ''dark'' gray character, but still went after he also despises his former family for forcing him to do what he did. they made him do.
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He also denies joining up with [[BigBad Talon]], though whether this is based more on his morals or his pride is still up for debate.
29th Jul '17 6:59:50 PM Stitchlips
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* In the lore of ''VideoGame/Overwatch'', Hanzo Shimada is the heir to a powerful yakuza clan, groomed to be such from the day he was born. He also killed his brother (or so he assumed), but it's heavily implied that Hanzo didn't want to go through with it and he spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. Hanzo is the 'Lighter' to the Shimada Clan's 'Darker', wherein he's definitely still an asshole and a morally gray character, but still went after his former family for forcing him to do what he did. He also denies joining up with [[BigBad Talon]], though whether this is based more on his morals or his pride is still up for debate.
7th Jul '17 11:05:40 AM Grudgeal
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** [[ArmsDealer Ares Macrotechnology]] is generally considered this trope in the shadows. It's not that Ares aren't doing shadowy, dirty business (they are) or that they give a hoot about making the world a better place (they don't), but Ares (perhaps due to their LovableRogue CEO or the fact that shadowrunners continuing to exist raises demand for their products) [[PragmaticVillainy tend to understand 'the game' between shadowrunners and corporations better than most]]. A run against Ares is a run [[ContractualGenreBlindness where they'll play by the rules if you play by them]], and if you get hired to do work on their behalf odds are better than average that the Johnson actually intends to pay you at the end.

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** [[ArmsDealer Ares Macrotechnology]] is generally considered this trope in the shadows. It's not that Ares aren't doing shadowy, dirty business (they are) or that they give a hoot about making the world a better place (they don't), but Ares (perhaps due to their LovableRogue CEO or the fact that shadowrunners continuing to exist raises demand for their products) [[PragmaticVillainy tend to understand 'the game' between shadowrunners and corporations better than most]]. A run against Ares is a run [[ContractualGenreBlindness [[FairPlayVillain where they'll play by the rules rules]] [[GentlemanThief if you play by them]], and if them]]. If you get hired to do work on their behalf behalf, odds are better than average that the Johnson actually intends to pay ''pay'' you at the end.end instead of backstabbing you.
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