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5th Jun '16 10:21:49 PM foxmccloud4387
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->''"I'm a bad guy who's paid to fuck up worse guys."''

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->''"I'm just a bad guy who's who gets paid to fuck up worse guys."''
15th May '16 9:27:49 AM nombretomado
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* In ''ComicBook/XMen'' while {{Magneto}} is often portrayed as a ruthless villain, he wanted to [[WellIntentionedExtremist create a better world for mutantkind free from]] [[FantasticRacism human discrimination and persecution]]. This is a stark contrast to many other X-Men villains such as Sebastian Shaw, William Stryker, and Apocalypse; where these villains have more selfish purposes (and in the case of Stryker, genocide against mutants). And of course there is Magneto's [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgust of the]] ComicBook/RedSkull [[note]]The fact that the Red Skull is a Nazi who participated in the Holocaust while Magneto is a Jewish Holocaust survivor makes Magneto even more sympathetic[[/note]].

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* In ''ComicBook/XMen'' while {{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} is often portrayed as a ruthless villain, he wanted to [[WellIntentionedExtremist create a better world for mutantkind free from]] [[FantasticRacism human discrimination and persecution]]. This is a stark contrast to many other X-Men villains such as Sebastian Shaw, William Stryker, and Apocalypse; where these villains have more selfish purposes (and in the case of Stryker, genocide against mutants). And of course there is Magneto's [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgust of the]] ComicBook/RedSkull [[note]]The fact that the Red Skull is a Nazi who participated in the Holocaust while Magneto is a Jewish Holocaust survivor makes Magneto even more sympathetic[[/note]].
11th May '16 9:40:45 AM TheGingerArtist
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** To a certain extent, Cooler to Frieza. They're both ruthless [[GalacticConquerors galactic conquerors]] that like pummeling their opponent, but Cooler's less sadistic and more focused on just finishing off his opponent. Plus [[BenevolentBoss he respects his men]] as opposed to [[BadBoss ruling them through fear]] like Frieza.

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** To a certain extent, Cooler to Frieza. They're both ruthless [[GalacticConquerors [[GalacticConqueror galactic conquerors]] that like pummeling their opponent, but Cooler's less sadistic and more focused on just finishing off his opponent. Plus [[BenevolentBoss he respects his men]] as opposed to [[BadBoss ruling them through fear]] like Frieza.
11th May '16 9:40:08 AM TheGingerArtist
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** To a certain extent, Cooler to Frieza. They're both ruthless [[GalacticConquerors galactic conquerors]] that like pummeling their opponent, but Cooler's less sadistic and more focused on just finishing off his opponent. Plus [[BenevolentBoss he respects his men]] as opposed to [[BadBoss ruling them through fear]] like Frieza.
8th May '16 8:52:35 PM foxmccloud4387
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** Beerus, the God of Destruction and BigBad of ''Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods'' stands out amongst the Z-Fighters' RoguesGallery. Most other ''Dragon Ball'' villains, especially Frieza and Cell, are utterly sadistic, depraved monsters who kill and destroy whoever and whenever they want ForTheEvulz. Beerus, on the other hand, only destroys [[PunchClockVillain because it's his job]] (though he is prone to destroying planets for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty reasons]]) and is quite sociable and friendly when off the clock.

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** Beerus, the God of Destruction and BigBad of ''Anime/DragonBallZBattleOfGods'' stands out amongst the Z-Fighters' RoguesGallery. Most other ''Dragon Ball'' villains, especially Frieza and Cell, are utterly sadistic, depraved monsters who kill and destroy whoever and whenever they want ForTheEvulz. Beerus, on the other hand, only destroys [[PunchClockVillain because it's his job]] (though he is prone to destroying planets for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty reasons]]) and is quite sociable and friendly when off the clock. He'll keep on delaying the clock, too, as long as you keep his stomach full of good food and keep him of the opinion that blowing up your planet will rob him of said food.
25th Apr '16 2:00:03 AM Galacton
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This can be done in many ways. Give your villain the SympatheticPOV. Have them PetTheDog, be a NobleDemon or invoke EvenEvilHasStandards. Perhaps they're simply a smaller threat to the world. Maybe their goals are, [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget or used to be]], [[AntiVillain somewhat sympathetic]]. Maybe they have many EvilVirtues. Or, when compared to the opposition, their cause still seems a little more "right" or their character "pure" than that of the enemy. Sometimes, Bob just needs to be stopped at any cost, and Alice happens to have that goal in mind, if only for selfish reasons. Since we want them to win, this may lead to a villainous version of RightMakesMight and PureIsNotGood.

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This can be done in many ways. Give your villain the SympatheticPOV. Have them PetTheDog, be a NobleDemon or invoke EvenEvilHasStandards. Perhaps they're simply a smaller threat to the world. Maybe their goals are, [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget [[FallenHero or used to be]], [[AntiVillain somewhat sympathetic]]. Maybe they have many EvilVirtues. Or, when compared to the opposition, their cause still seems a little more "right" or their character "pure" than that of the enemy. Sometimes, Bob just needs to be stopped at any cost, and Alice happens to have that goal in mind, if only for selfish reasons. Since we want them to win, this may lead to a villainous version of RightMakesMight and PureIsNotGood.
13th Apr '16 12:09:52 AM foxmccloud4387
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->''"I'm a bad guy who's paid to fuck up worse guys."''
-->--'''Wade Wilson''', ''Film/Deadpool2016''
30th Mar '16 10:13:35 AM igordebraga
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has plenty of it, given it's set in a CrapsackWorld where [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished good people suffer]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality seemingly good people are questionable, and bad people are total bastards]]. The Clegane brothers are both {{Blood Knight}}s, but while Gregor ("The Mountain") is an AxCrazy {{Sociopath|icSoldier}} who rapes and slaughters for pleasure, Sandor ("The Hound") is a ProfessionalKiller [[NobleDemon with some standards]]. Cersei Lannister is [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen a ruthless queen]], her [[{{Twincest}} brother\lover]] Jaime starts firmly black but after [[TraumaCongaLine suffering a lot]] [[TookALevelInIdealism turns out to be a better person than he seemed]], and younger brother Tyrion is a LoveableRogue.
23rd Mar '16 9:13:55 AM ObsidianFire
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', the triple-A MegaCorp Horizon (which appeared in 4th edition onwards) is a world-dominating mega corp that has a completely flat and transparent corporate structure, an extremely cheerful and public CEO, and focus on 'benign' industries like Public Relations and pharmaceuticals. Rather than make them the 'good guys' of the setting this has made them ParanoiaFuel; Shadowrunners are usually extremely GenreSavvy (the ones that aren't don't live long) and the concept of a Mega with no skeletons in the closet that actually ''cares'' is scarier than eight of the other open [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] on the Corporate Court combined (they still don't match [[TheDreaded Aztechnology]] though) because this only means they must be hiding something utterly depraved in there ''somewhere''... But nobody knows what it is.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', the triple-A MegaCorp Horizon (which appeared in 4th edition onwards) is a world-dominating mega corp that has a completely flat and transparent corporate structure, an extremely cheerful and public CEO, and focus on 'benign' industries like Public Relations and pharmaceuticals. Rather than make them the 'good guys' of the setting this has made them ParanoiaFuel; Shadowrunners are usually extremely GenreSavvy (the smart(the ones that aren't don't live long) and the concept of a Mega with no skeletons in the closet that actually ''cares'' is scarier than eight of the other open [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] on the Corporate Court combined (they still don't match [[TheDreaded Aztechnology]] though) because this only means they must be hiding something utterly depraved in there ''somewhere''... But nobody knows what it is.
24th Jan '16 6:44:53 PM Katsuhagi
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* Zala'ess Vel'Sharen in ''{{Webcomic/Drowtales}}'' is by no means a particularly nice person, since in the process of vying for the title of Empress among her sisters participates in {{Matricide}}, pulls a UriahGambit on an (adopted) child, politically manipulates several clans into helping her and deliberately and secretly sabotages a fight between one of her sisters that causes her to die. And yet compared to her eldest sister Snadhya'rune, who's an outright [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who views people as things and Sarv'swati, her [[TheCaligula brutal and tyrannical]] second eldest sister, she seems downright reasonable and displays some humanizing qualities like honest concern for her children.

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* Zala'ess Vel'Sharen in ''{{Webcomic/Drowtales}}'' is by no means a particularly nice person, since in the process of vying for the title of Empress among her sisters participates in {{Matricide}}, pulls a UriahGambit on an (adopted) child, politically manipulates several clans into helping her and deliberately and secretly sabotages a fight between duel that causes one of her sisters that causes her to die. And yet compared to her eldest sister Snadhya'rune, who's an outright [[TheSociopath sociopath]] who views people as things and Sarv'swati, her [[TheCaligula brutal and tyrannical]] second eldest sister, she seems downright reasonable and displays some humanizing qualities like honest concern for her children.
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