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15th Apr '18 5:28:08 PM Nintendoman01
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** Vegeta himself serves as the lesser evil to Frieza during the Namek Saga. It gets to the point where Krillin agrees to use the Dragon Balls to make Vegeta immortal because as evil and nasty as Vegeta is, Frieza is even worse.



** In ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Frost from Universe 6 plays a similar role to Frieza. While Frost [[spoiler: may be a crime lord and con-artist who profiteers off war like Frieza used to do]], he isn't a sadist. He is motivated mostly by [[spoiler:money and respect]], which although hardly noble, is a very "human" desire and leads him [[spoiler:to cultivate a VillainWithGoodPublicity in order to get the most benefit out of his crimes and even when found out he keeps his head about himself]], unlike Frieza who gladly slaughters anyone he comes across [[ForTheEvulz for kicks]] and revels in being the most feared being in the universe. It's how Frost achieves it that makes him evil. To his credit, however, he could have easily strong-armed a city into giving him a new base of power once he lost everything and/or tried to wage an universal war using what was left of his empire, but he instead lives on the streets and tries not to harm anyone despite his great power, even hiding from patrolling police officers when he could easily obliterate them with a flick of a wrist. When caught by the assassin [[ConsummateProfessional Hit]] with no chance to escape [[spoiler:(though not realizing Hit came with a different purpose than killing him)]], he choses to [[FaceDeathWithDignity silently accept his fate]] after a brief battle instead of [[RageQuit blowing up the planet]] like Frieza whenever ''he'' is forced against the ropes.

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** In ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', Frost from Universe 6 plays a similar role to Frieza. While Frost [[spoiler: may be a crime lord and con-artist who profiteers off war like Frieza used to do]], he isn't a sadist. He is motivated mostly by [[spoiler:money and respect]], which although hardly noble, is a very "human" desire and leads him [[spoiler:to cultivate a VillainWithGoodPublicity in order to get the most benefit out of his crimes and even when found out he keeps his head about himself]], unlike Frieza who gladly slaughters anyone he comes across [[ForTheEvulz for kicks]] and revels in being the most feared being in the universe. It's how Frost achieves it that makes him evil. To his credit, however, he could have easily strong-armed a city into giving him a new base of power once he lost everything and/or tried to wage an universal war using what was left of his empire, but he instead lives on the streets and tries not to harm anyone despite his great power, even hiding from patrolling police officers when he could easily obliterate them with a flick of a wrist. When caught by the assassin [[ConsummateProfessional Hit]] with no chance to escape [[spoiler:(though not realizing Hit came with a different purpose than killing him)]], he choses chooses to [[FaceDeathWithDignity silently accept his fate]] after a brief battle instead of [[RageQuit blowing up the planet]] like Frieza whenever ''he'' is forced against the ropes.
6th Feb '18 9:28:55 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Sandor is brutal, but unlike Gregor has some sort of morals. This only becomes more pronounced over time as Sandor begins to develop more of a conscience and feel more remorse for his crimes, whereas Gregor remains as monstrous as ever.
14th Jan '18 9:44:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Raptors}}'': Drago and Camilla are remorseless predators, but their love for each other and reason for wanting revenge against the other vampires for killing their parents makes them just slightly more sympathetic. Unlike their arch-enemy Don Miguel, they also don't make a habit out of hunting children or orchestrating the wholesale purge of humanity.
12th Dec '17 8:49:10 AM Malady
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* ''{{Lackadaisy}}'' is about a gang war between two booze joints in the 20's USA. The eponyous Lackadaisy gang is mostly presented as a group of good friends and underdogs who got into organized crime due to circumstances or for some of them out of desperation, while the rival Marigold gang is a group of experienced and hardened criminals who seem to enjoy their job way too much and have very few (if any) redeeming qualities.

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* ''{{Lackadaisy}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Lackadaisy}}'' is about a gang war between two booze joints in the 20's USA. The eponyous Lackadaisy gang is mostly presented as a group of good friends and underdogs who got into organized crime due to circumstances or for some of them out of desperation, while the rival Marigold gang is a group of experienced and hardened criminals who seem to enjoy their job way too much and have very few (if any) redeeming qualities.
12th Dec '17 3:46:43 AM Hawaii_Knut
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** [[TokenEvilTeammate Viconia]] is a drow and a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch in that she's evil aligned, just not ''that'' evil. The typical drow, especially those you meet in the Underdark arc in ''Shadows of Amn'', are so evil that Viconia looks good aligned in comparison.
17th Nov '17 2:21:17 AM NNinja
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* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': The series as a whole chronicles the omniverse-spanning ForeverWar between the Forces of [[WorldOfSilence Law]], [[WorldOfChaos Chaos]] and [[StatusQuoIsGod Neutral]], [[GreyAndGrayMorality each side possessing their positives and negatives.]] Law and Chaos have genuinely noble intentions laden in extremism, and while Neutral is the most nuanced of the alignments, it also is never a permanent solution to the universe's problems, making it overall a decision of what's best for humanity. Due to the rampant subjectivity of the matter, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation it's possible to argue all three sides as the best choice.]]
16th Nov '17 8:59:44 AM WaterBlap
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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: people just ''do'' like having someone to cheer for; but, if both sides are equally reprehensible, then there's really no point to it.

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While EvilVersusEvil may be fun, it carries the risk of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: people just ''do'' like having someone to cheer for; but, for, but if both sides are equally reprehensible, then there's really no point to it.
9th Oct '17 2:03:41 AM FlashRebel
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* ''{{Lackadaisy}}'' is about a gang war between two booze joints in the 20's USA. The eponyous Lackadaisy gang is mostly presented as a group of good friends and underdogs who got into organized crime due to circumstances or for some of them out of desperation, while the rival Marigold gang is a group of experienced and hardened criminals who seem to enjoy their job way too much and have very few (if any) redeeming qualities.
24th Sep '17 9:19:08 AM nombretomado
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* In the ''[[BattleTechExpandedUniverse [=BattleTech=]]]'' novel ''Bred for War'', [[spoiler:the assassin responsible for the death of Melissa Steiner-Davion in an earlier book]] gets this treatment. When a new "revolutionary" government takes over the planet he'd been thinking about going into retirement on, it turns out to be sufficiently nasty that even his disregard for collateral damage in leading LaResistance and his [[spoiler:leaving his local girlfriend to be captured and killed]] as a distraction can't quite quench the admiration for his [[MagnificentBastard magnificent bastardry]]. (It helps that he only reveals his real identity at the end of the subplot -- even to the reader.)

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* In the ''[[BattleTechExpandedUniverse ''[[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse [=BattleTech=]]]'' novel ''Bred for War'', [[spoiler:the assassin responsible for the death of Melissa Steiner-Davion in an earlier book]] gets this treatment. When a new "revolutionary" government takes over the planet he'd been thinking about going into retirement on, it turns out to be sufficiently nasty that even his disregard for collateral damage in leading LaResistance and his [[spoiler:leaving his local girlfriend to be captured and killed]] as a distraction can't quite quench the admiration for his [[MagnificentBastard magnificent bastardry]]. (It helps that he only reveals his real identity at the end of the subplot -- even to the reader.)
22nd Sep '17 7:30:33 AM Joylock
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* In ''Film/FreddyVsJason,'' Jason is often read this way, since at least he's not a children-killing scumbag with pedophilic undertones who stretches out his victims' deaths out of sheer sadism. That and Freddy can go just about anywhere whereas Jason only sticks to his home place. On the flip side, Jason racks up a ''way'' bigger body count than Freddy does (which is actually Freddy's motive for fighting him-- he is killing kids Freddy has targeted), is clearly out of control, and is slaughtering teenagers by the dozen seemingly ForTheEvulz, so...

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* In ''Film/FreddyVsJason,'' Jason is often read this way, since at least he's not a children-killing scumbag with pedophilic undertones who stretches out his victims' deaths out of sheer sadism. That and Freddy can go just about anywhere whereas Jason only sticks to his home place. On the flip side, Jason racks up a ''way'' bigger body count than Freddy does (which is actually Freddy's motive for fighting him-- he is killing kids Freddy has targeted), is clearly out of control, and is slaughtering teenagers by the dozen seemingly ForTheEvulz, so... Also, on a metaphysical level, there's the fact Freddy explicitly steals the souls of his victims, whereas Jason just kills people.
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