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7th Feb '16 11:27:29 PM gophergiggles
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* The titular ''Film/MajorPayne'', while definitely a DrillSergeantNasty and (in the words of Emily) an "an insecure, overbearing, psychopathic, edictorial, ego maniacal, frigid lunatic asshole", but in his own warped way he definitely cares about his men. Be it by breaking a comrades finger to take his mind off the pain of being shot, shooting the closet to "terminate the Boogeyman with extreme prejudice" so the young Tiger can go to sleep, or [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming defending one of his students from their abusive and drunken step-father]]. [[spoiler:In fact, he becomes a ''literal'' example of this to one of his men in the end of the film where he marries Emily and adopts Tiger.]]
28th Jan '16 6:34:28 PM ANTMuddle
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Contrast SergeantRock who is also super-competent, but his leadership style is nasty; TheNeidermeyer who is nasty and incompetent; DrillSergeantNasty who is either competent or incompetent as the plot directs. The opposite of WeHaveReserves.
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Contrast SergeantRock who is also super-competent, but his leadership style is nasty; TheNeidermeyer who is nasty and incompetent; DrillSergeantNasty who is either competent or incompetent as the plot directs. The A WeHaveReserves commander works in the opposite of WeHaveReserves.way.
29th Dec '15 9:58:43 AM Anddrix
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* The love SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom feels for the people of Latveria is the '''one''' thing that is stronger than his hate for Reed Richards; he would gladly lay down his life or even (temporarily) ally with the Comicbook/FantasticFour to protect them.
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* The love SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom feels for the people of Latveria is the '''one''' thing that is stronger than his hate for Reed Richards; he would gladly lay down his life or even (temporarily) ally with the Comicbook/FantasticFour to protect them.
24th Dec '15 7:41:23 AM Doug86
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** Xavier, the founder, was a surrogate father to both Scott and Jean, as well as everyone else in the original five, he cares deeply about them and their safety, with one issue showing, in detail, every person Xavier let die and show how it effected him emotionally.
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** Xavier, the founder, was a surrogate father to both Scott and Jean, as well as everyone else in the original five, he cares deeply about them and their safety, with one issue showing, in detail, every person Xavier let die and show how it effected affected him emotionally.

* The love DoctorDoom feels for the people of Latveria is the '''one''' thing that is stronger than his hate for Reed Richards; he would gladly lay down his life or even (temporarily) ally with the Comicbook/FantasticFour to protect them.
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* The love DoctorDoom SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom feels for the people of Latveria is the '''one''' thing that is stronger than his hate for Reed Richards; he would gladly lay down his life or even (temporarily) ally with the Comicbook/FantasticFour to protect them.

* Fanfic/DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns has the dwarven noble protagonist during his brief time as Commander, before his [[spoiler:deliberate ZeroApprovalGambit]]. In fact, [[spoiler:even though said gambit is executed flawlessly, his men, or at least one very high-ranking military figure, never believe in his guilt, to the point where said high-ranking warrior threatens the Assembly with leaving for the surface, along with his whole house, unless they give the prince a trial, which they do, much to Bhelen's chagrin.]] What makes this even more interesting is that [[spoiler:they were all proven right when Trian, who is still very much alive, revealed himself.]]
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* Fanfic/DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns ''Fanfic/DragonAgeTheCrownOfThorns'' has the dwarven noble protagonist during his brief time as Commander, before his [[spoiler:deliberate ZeroApprovalGambit]]. In fact, [[spoiler:even though said gambit is executed flawlessly, his men, or at least one very high-ranking military figure, never believe in his guilt, to the point where said high-ranking warrior threatens the Assembly with leaving for the surface, along with his whole house, unless they give the prince a trial, which they do, much to Bhelen's chagrin.]] What makes this even more interesting is that [[spoiler:they were all proven right when Trian, who is still very much alive, revealed himself.]]

-->Those street Arabs were almost ''too'' loyal to their… oh, sod it, to their father. Maybe they weren’t too loyal, after all.
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-->Those street Arabs were almost ''too'' loyal to their… their... oh, sod it, to their father. Maybe they weren’t weren't too loyal, after all.

* In the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender and Manga/Naruto crossover [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8038098/1/Bodyguard-of-Azula Bodyguard of Azula]], Naruto is this to a huge part of the Fire Nation Army, to the point that they [[spoiler:beg not to fight him when he is buying time for Azula and Zuko to escape the capital, and try to let him out of the prison when he surrenders. He plays this trope again by ordering them not to do it, since all of them would be killed if it failed]] * In the ''StarTrek'' fanfic ''FanFic/{{Heroes}}'', Spock regrets that Surak will never see the side of Kirk that becomes upset whenever a crewman dies.
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* In the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' and Manga/Naruto ''Manga/Naruto'' crossover [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8038098/1/Bodyguard-of-Azula Bodyguard of Azula]], Naruto is this to a huge part of the Fire Nation Army, to the point that they [[spoiler:beg not to fight him when he is buying time for Azula and Zuko to escape the capital, and try to let him out of the prison when he surrenders. He plays this trope again by ordering them not to do it, since all of them would be killed if it failed]] * In the ''StarTrek'' ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' fanfic ''FanFic/{{Heroes}}'', Spock regrets that Surak will never see the side of Kirk that becomes upset whenever a crewman dies.

-->'''Eleya:''' I will personally blow ''any'' Kobali ship that pursues him clear back to the Celestial Temple if I have to; I don’t give a flying ''[[PardonMyKlingon phekk]]'' what the treaty says. He stays here of his own accord or not at all.\\
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-->'''Eleya:''' I will personally blow ''any'' Kobali ship that pursues him clear back to the Celestial Temple if I have to; I don’t don't give a flying ''[[PardonMyKlingon phekk]]'' what the treaty says. He stays here of his own accord or not at all.\\

'''Eleya:''' No, understand, after what your government pulled the word of a Kobali is worthless to me. I want your word as a ''sworn officer of the Federation Starfleet'' that you’ll respect his wishes.
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'''Eleya:''' No, understand, after what your government pulled the word of a Kobali is worthless to me. I want your word as a ''sworn officer of the Federation Starfleet'' that you’ll you'll respect his wishes.

* In ''Film/TheRock,'' the "being torn up about sacrifices" part leads Brigadier General Francis Hummel into the villainy. It's notable how everyone even remotely knowlegeable still talk all respect about him even after he initiates a hostage/terrorist plot. [[spoiler:Which he intended to be just a bluff.]]
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* In ''Film/TheRock,'' the "being torn up about sacrifices" part leads Brigadier General Francis Hummel into the villainy. It's notable how everyone even remotely knowlegeable knowledgeable still talk all respect about him even after he initiates a hostage/terrorist plot. [[spoiler:Which he intended to be just a bluff.]]

** As noted by CiaphasCain ('''HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!'''), very, very few commissars are this out of propaganda videos. However, those who rule exclusively through [[BoomHeadshot *BLAM*]]ings (outside of PenalLegions) tend to meet heroic deaths despite being nowhere near the front line at the time.
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** As noted by CiaphasCain Literature/CiaphasCain ('''HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!'''), very, very few commissars are this out of propaganda videos. However, those who rule exclusively through [[BoomHeadshot *BLAM*]]ings (outside of PenalLegions) Penal Legions) tend to meet heroic deaths despite being nowhere near the front line at the time.

* ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': This trope is Deconstructed by Carbon de Castel-Jaloux attitude(see the quote of Sun Tzu in literature above): He is the captain of the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Cadets of Gascony]], a nobleman who pays his own company, so he only is obliged to obey his superiors in military matters. He is troubled at the Siegue of Arras, because all his men (to whom he refers as his sons!) are starving. His superior, The Marshal of Gassion, Count De Guiche, asks him to punish his men for disrespecting a superior officer (himself). Using his prerogative, Carbon de Castel-Jaloux chooses not to. After that, De Guiche informs him that his company is the bait in a gambit that can win the battle. Carbon de Castel-Jaloux is completely willing with the plan to send all his company to death because that is what a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon soldier is supposed to do]]. Notice that if he has punished his men – soldiers in an army are supposed to respect a superior, no matter how despicable they found him - his company would not have been picked to fight a suicide mission.
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* ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': This trope is Deconstructed by Carbon de Castel-Jaloux attitude(see attitude (see the quote of Sun Tzu in literature above): He is the captain of the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Cadets of Gascony]], a nobleman who pays his own company, so he only is obliged to obey his superiors in military matters. He is troubled at the Siegue of Arras, because all his men (to whom he refers as his sons!) are starving. His superior, The Marshal of Gassion, Count De Guiche, asks him to punish his men for disrespecting a superior officer (himself). Using his prerogative, Carbon de Castel-Jaloux chooses not to. After that, De Guiche informs him that his company is the bait in a gambit that can win the battle. Carbon de Castel-Jaloux is completely willing with the plan to send all his company to death because that is what a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon soldier is supposed to do]]. Notice that if he has punished his men – soldiers in an army are supposed to respect a superior, no matter how despicable they found him - his company would not have been picked to fight a suicide mission.
17th Dec '15 3:21:00 AM 1Thunderfire
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* Captain Boomerang is seen as this by his fellow Boos in ''Fanfic/CanABooBeFriendsWithAHuman.'' [[SergeantDrillNasty Sergeant Kung Boo]] thinks to himself he wouldn't know what to do without him.
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* Captain Boomerang is seen as this by his fellow Boos in ''Fanfic/CanABooBeFriendsWithAHuman.'' [[SergeantDrillNasty [[DrillSergeantNasty Sergeant Kung Boo]] thinks to himself he wouldn't know what to do without him.
17th Dec '15 3:18:18 AM 1Thunderfire
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* Captain Boomerang is seen as this by his fellow Boos in ''Fanfic/CanABooBeFriendsWithAHuman.'' [[SergeantDrillNasty Sergeant Kung Boo]] thinks to himself he wouldn't know what to do without him.
16th Dec '15 11:23:29 PM Doug86
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* If you're a SuperVillain, it is a very, ''very'', '''''very''''' bad idea to hurt a member of the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica when {{Superman}}'s around. There's a reason he's the default leader of the team. * Just about every leader, or just high ranking member, of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} is this.
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* If you're a SuperVillain, it is a very, ''very'', '''''very''''' bad idea to hurt a member of the Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica when {{Superman}}'s Franchise/{{Superman}}'s around. There's a reason he's the default leader of the team. * Just about every leader, or just high ranking high-ranking member, of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen is this.

** [[{{Wolverine}} Logan]], while not a leader, is almost always a father figure to young, especially female, X-Men. When placed in charge of X-Force, he takes special care over the other members. (This is probably because two of the members are only in their late teens-early twenties, while the fourth is his own child/clone who is no older than 17.) There's a reason he has one sidekick per generation.
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** [[{{Wolverine}} [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} Logan]], while not a leader, is almost always a father figure to young, especially female, X-Men. When placed in charge of X-Force, he takes special care over the other members. (This is probably because two of the members are only in their late teens-early twenties, while the fourth is his own child/clone who is no older than 17.) There's a reason he has one sidekick per generation.
8th Dec '15 8:10:44 AM AtticusOmundson
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-->--'''Sun Tzu''', ''Literature/TheArtOfWar''
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-->--'''Sun -->-- '''Sun Tzu''', ''Literature/TheArtOfWar''
22nd Nov '15 5:49:42 PM nombretomado
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* When [[spoiler:Robert E. Lee]] turns out to be unfit for a combat command in TheSalvationWar, General Petraeus alludes to this in assigning him to head a convalescent home for traumatized [[spoiler:"Second Life," aka undead]] [[FishOutOfTemporalWater American soldiers from past wars]].
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* When [[spoiler:Robert E. Lee]] turns out to be unfit for a combat command in TheSalvationWar, ''Literature/TheSalvationWar'', General Petraeus alludes to this in assigning him to head a convalescent home for traumatized [[spoiler:"Second Life," aka undead]] [[FishOutOfTemporalWater American soldiers from past wars]].
29th Oct '15 2:20:38 PM VicGeorge2011
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* Papa Smurf is pretty much this to ''ComicBook/TheSmurfs''. In fact, in the English vocal track of [[Film/TheSmurfs the live-action movie]], Gargamel goes so far as to have Papa Smurf say he has 99 sons and one daughter. Papa Smurf himself says that they're his family.
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* Papa Smurf is pretty much this to ''ComicBook/TheSmurfs''. In fact, in the English vocal track of [[Film/TheSmurfs the live-action movie]], Gargamel goes so far as to have Papa Smurf say he has 99 sons and one daughter. Papa Smurf himself says that they're his family. In the film sequel ''Film/TheSmurfs2'', Papa Smurf treats Smurfette like his daughter.
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