History MagnificentBastard / WebComics

16th Jul '16 7:20:39 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** On the one hand, he's often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He secretly perpetrated an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He had made major progress towards that goal, ruled over an entire empire through fear and an iron fist, and planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic describing his scheme, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]

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*** On the one hand, he's often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy GenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He secretly perpetrated an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He had made major progress towards that goal, ruled over an entire empire through fear and an iron fist, and planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic describing his scheme, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
30th May '16 7:47:19 AM Abadonian
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* Deus, also from ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'' is very much a Magnificent Bastard. He is a character that is entirely in for himself, believing that greed is the reason for life itself, and he has taken over a small African country by assassinating the warlord, and then convincing the warlord's son to ally with him.
5th May '16 5:25:29 PM Ninja857142
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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' has several notable examples: Vriska seems to be going for this, but is actually really bad at it: not only is she extremely NOT charismatic, but she can't actually manipulate anyone without resorting to using her PsychicPowers, is constantly OutGambitted, and never really accomplishes anything.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' has several notable examples: examples:
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Vriska seems to be going for this, but is actually really bad at it: not only is she extremely NOT charismatic, but she can't actually manipulate anyone without resorting to using her PsychicPowers, is constantly OutGambitted, and never really accomplishes anything.



** The ultimate example, however, would be [[spoiler: Doc Scratch]]. Not only is he a master manipulator responsible for [[TheChessmaster orchestrating nearly every event in the story]], he managed to set up an epic XanatosGambit spanning the entire history of no less than ''four universes''. And he does it all while remaining [[AffablyEvil cool, charismatic, and an excellent host]], or without ever actually lying (unless you count lies of omission, which he says do not exist).
*** An example: when he plays chess, he doesn't react to his opponent's moves. He gives his opponent all of his moves at the start of the game, and still wins.
** Some would contend that Hussie himself is the greatest of the Magnificent Bastards. All of his appearances lead into each other across massive swaths of the story, and every single thing he says becomes true anyways, and yet he is an actual living character within, AND YET writes the story. From within the story. He takes the paradoxical nature of Homestuck's timeline to another level entirely. Not to mention the fact that [[spoiler: his death is a major storyline point, and as he is creator of said storyline within the comic, his death is going to become infinitely more complex by the end.]]
*** Oh, and that he takes pleasure and pride in trolling the readers.

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** The ultimate example, however, would be [[spoiler: Doc Scratch]]. Not only is he a master manipulator responsible for [[TheChessmaster orchestrating nearly every event in the story]], he managed to set up an epic XanatosGambit spanning the entire history of no less than ''four universes''. And he does it all while remaining [[AffablyEvil cool, charismatic, and an excellent host]], or without ever actually lying (unless you count lies of omission, which he says do not exist).
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exist). An example: when he plays chess, he doesn't react to his opponent's moves. He gives his opponent all of his moves at the start of the game, and still wins.
** Some would contend that Hussie himself is the greatest of the Magnificent Bastards. All of his appearances lead into each other across massive swaths of the story, and every single thing he says becomes true anyways, and yet he is an actual living character within, AND YET writes the story. From within the story. He takes the paradoxical nature of Homestuck's timeline to another level entirely. Not to mention the fact that [[spoiler: his death is a major storyline point, and as he is creator of said storyline within the comic, his death is going to become infinitely more complex by the end.]]
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]] Oh, and that he takes pleasure and pride in trolling the readers.
24th Apr '16 5:01:45 PM DrNovakaine
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* Howlett Creager from the ''Webcomic/DailyGrind''.
6th Apr '16 12:37:02 PM Ninja857142
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*** On the one hand, he was often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was secretly perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He had made major progress towards that goal, and he planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in his team's mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0921.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like a story fanatic than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.

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*** On the one hand, he was he's often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was secretly perpetrating perpetrated an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He had made major progress towards that goal, ruled over an entire empire through fear and he an iron fist, and planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, describing his scheme, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is WrongGenreSavvy. He's convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees obsesses over this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly adapt, and he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] in his desperate and unhinged in his attempts futile attempt to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown.track. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in his team's mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0921.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like a story fanatic than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.
26th Feb '16 8:36:20 AM pablo360
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** Terezi, on the other hand, doesn't need any psychic powers, she can manipulate people into doing whatever she wants just by being skilled at pressing people's buttons, and she's frighteningly good at it. She even managed to trick ''an omniscient being'' into carrying out a revenge plot for her. Of course, being able to read minds probably helps.

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** Terezi, on the other hand, doesn't need any psychic powers, she can manipulate people into doing whatever she wants just by being skilled at pressing people's buttons, and she's frighteningly good at it. She even managed to trick ''an omniscient being'' into carrying out a revenge plot for her. Of course, being able to read minds probably helps.
25th Feb '16 8:55:34 PM Ninja857142
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*** On the one hand, he was often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in his team's mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0921.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.

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*** On the one hand, he was often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was secretly perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He had made major progress towards that goal, and he planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in his team's mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0921.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order a story fanatic than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.
22nd Dec '15 2:27:44 PM Ninja857142
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*** On the one hand, he was often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there...[[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in their mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.

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*** On the one hand, he was often on top of what happens, rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. He was perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there... [[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his own agency in their his team's mutual plan, and his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.com/comics/oots0921.html his adventuring buddies]], who treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.
10th Dec '15 8:19:26 PM Ninja857142
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** General Tarquin is always on top of what happens, never rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. What he's actually doing is perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He's got it all planned so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there...[[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]]
*** [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** [[SubvertedTrope Ultimately ends up subverted in Tarquin's case]]. He's not really a MagnificentBastard so much as a deluded egotist who presents himself as one. In truth, he's a [[PsychopathicManchild deranged psychopath]] who has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], and as the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], his tactical brilliance and role as a BigBad are all just exaggerated claims he made. All of this is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html his adventuring buddies]], and they treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be. Tarquin proves to be WrongGenreSavvy; he sees only one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. Instead, he becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown.

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** General Tarquin is always somewhere around the line between this trope and SmugSnake. Fans are [[BrokenBase very divided]] on how his characterization played out.
*** On the one hand, he was often
on top of what happens, never rarely rattled, and DangerouslyGenreSavvy to the point of subverting NarrativeCausality to his will. What he's actually doing is He was perpetrating an Illuminati-style conspiracy with his adventuring companions over the entire Western Continent, ensuring that rule of every nation will soon be in the hands of six people. He's got it all He planned it so that he'll get to play the villain for a few decades before a hero inevitably stops him -- getting to live as a king and then live on as a legend, since he's bound to make such an epic story and EvilIsCool. After he explains this to Elan, causing him to run away in terror, Tarquin just stands there...[[AGlassOfChianti and smoothly takes a drink.]]
***
]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0763.html Here's the specific comic described above where we really grasp just how magnificent Tarquin can be, aptly titled "Plotting Something".]]
*** [[SubvertedTrope Ultimately ends up subverted in Tarquin's case]]. He's not really a MagnificentBastard so much as a deluded egotist who presents himself as one. In truth, he's a [[PsychopathicManchild deranged psychopath]] who On the other hand, he has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], which makes him badly WrongGenreSavvy; he is convinced that the story revolves around him and Elan as the BigBad and TheHero, when it's really about Xykon and Roy, respectively. He only sees this one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. He becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown. As the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], he overstates his tactical brilliance own agency in their mutual plan, and role as a BigBad are all just exaggerated claims he made. All of this his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] alone could only get him so far. This is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html his adventuring buddies]], and they who treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be. Tarquin proves to be WrongGenreSavvy; he sees only one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. Instead, he becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown.be.
3rd Oct '15 4:48:36 PM Yendor
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*** [[SubvertedTrope Ultimately ends up subverted in Tarquin's case]]. He's not really a MagnificentBastard so much as a deluded egotist who presents himself as one. In truth, he's a [[PsychopathicManchild deranged psychopath]] who has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], and as the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], his tactical brilliance and role as a BigBad are all just exaggerated claims he made. All of this is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html his adventuring buddies]], and they treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be.

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*** [[SubvertedTrope Ultimately ends up subverted in Tarquin's case]]. He's not really a MagnificentBastard so much as a deluded egotist who presents himself as one. In truth, he's a [[PsychopathicManchild deranged psychopath]] who has an [[ItsAllAboutMe overinflated ego]], and as the Giant points out [[http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318550&page=4 in the forum]], his tactical brilliance and role as a BigBad are all just exaggerated claims he made. All of this is highlighted when we see [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0924.html his adventuring buddies]], and they treat him more like ''Elan'' is treated by the Order than the MagnificentBastard he claims to be. Tarquin proves to be WrongGenreSavvy; he sees only one vision for the story, and when things stop going according to his plan, he's unable to adapt. Instead, he becomes increasingly desperate and unhinged in his attempts to force things back on track, culminating in a full-on VillainousBreakdown.
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