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5th Jul '16 7:09:35 PM TheNerfGuy
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Don't forget that with the update to 4th Edition his status went from merely a powerful archdevil that required a full team of high level epic characters to fight into a full god.\\
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** Asmodeus' first Starscream was Baalzebul, Lord of the Flies. Baalzebul was almost as magnificent as Asmodeus himself. He was a former angel who went to hell and did such a good job taking over that he completely removed all [[UnPerson knowledge of his predecessor's name and identity from existence]]. He managed to control ''two'' levels of Hell, one himself and one through a viceroy, Moloch. Add to that, he actually had Asmodeus' favor. Unfortunately for Baalzebul, during that civil war he led an insurrection that tried to take Asmodeus down. He was thwarted when Mephistopheles' troops turned on the insurrection, and then Asmodeus punished him by changing his form from that of an angel to that of a slug. Baalzebul's still the #3 guy in Hell (behind Asmodeus and Mephistopheles), but looking like a slug demotes him from MagnificentBastard to TheChessmaster.
** Another example is the Demon Lord Dagon. Like other Demons, he is ChaoticEvil. ''Unlike'' other Demons however, he is intelligent, rational, and above all, ''patient''. He is reported to be the first Demon Lord spawned from the Abyss, and uses his vast knowledge to manipulate the minds of mortals and demons alike. Oh, and his alliance with Demogorgon, which makes him seem like TheDragon? It's heavily implied that their alliance is [[DragonWithAnAgenda part of a greater scheme in Dagon's benefit]], and in fact he plays a big role in the continuing feud between Demogorgon's SplitPersonality issue. (He only speaks to one of Demogorgon's two minds when giving advice.). Finally, if you look at him, you become terrified of the sea. Did we forget to mention that Dagon lives at the bottom of an Abyssal ocean? ''His very existence insulates him from retribution.''
** Much like Dagon, Graz'zt has the same traits of intelligence and patience, which let him control not one, but ''three'' layers. He managed to trick a goddess of wealth and trapped her, and he continues to survive even after her subsequent escape. He also manages to manipulate other demon lords like Yeenoghu into fighting his battles for him without drawing attention to himself.

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** Asmodeus' first Starscream was Baalzebul, Lord of the Flies. Baalzebul was almost as magnificent as Asmodeus himself. He was a former angel who went to hell and did such a good job taking over that he completely removed all [[UnPerson knowledge of his predecessor's name and identity from existence]]. He managed to control ''two'' levels of Hell, one himself and one through a viceroy, Moloch. Add to that, he actually had Asmodeus' favor. Unfortunately for Baalzebul, during that civil war he led an insurrection that tried to take Asmodeus down. He was thwarted when Mephistopheles' troops turned on the insurrection, and then Asmodeus punished him by changing his form from that of an angel to that of a slug. Baalzebul's still the #3 guy in Hell (behind Asmodeus and Mephistopheles), but looking like a slug demotes him from MagnificentBastard to TheChessmaster.
** Another example is the The Demon Lord Lord, Dagon. Like other Demons, he is ChaoticEvil. ''Unlike'' other Demons however, he is intelligent, rational, and above all, ''patient''. He is reported to be the first Demon Lord spawned from the Abyss, and uses his vast knowledge to manipulate the minds of mortals and demons alike. Oh, and his alliance with Demogorgon, which makes him seem like TheDragon? It's heavily implied that their alliance is [[DragonWithAnAgenda part of a greater scheme in Dagon's benefit]], and in fact he plays a big role in the continuing feud between Demogorgon's SplitPersonality issue. (He only speaks to one of Demogorgon's two minds when giving advice.). Finally, if you look at him, you become terrified of the sea. Did we forget to mention that Dagon lives at the bottom of an Abyssal ocean? ''His very existence insulates him from retribution.''
** Much like Dagon, Graz'zt has about the same traits of intelligence and patience, patience as Dagon, which let him control not one, but ''three'' layers. He managed to trick a goddess of wealth and trapped her, and he continues to survive even after her subsequent escape. He also manages to manipulate other demon lords like Yeenoghu into fighting his battles for him without drawing attention to himself.



** Another Magnificent (in this case) Bitch would be Lolth. She may seem insane but like Tzeentch, she is either that or very sane. She favors chaos and looks out for too much cooperation between drow but at the same time, she makes certain that they do not cause too much chaos. She looks on those who cause chaos in normal drow society with favor [[spoiler: and she doesn't limit herself to evil ones, at that]]. She also orchestrated [[spoiler:the deaths of several of her own children, to ensure that she'd remain as the sole deity of the drow, also being one of the main factors that could have lead to the Spellplague]]. When she went silent to the drow prayers for a long time, she used this time to [[spoiler: reestablish herself as a new greater deity, moving the Demonweb Pits away from the Abyss and confirm it as its own plane of existence]].

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** Another Magnificent (in this case) Bitch would be Lolth. She may seem insane but like Tzeentch, she is either that or very sane. She favors chaos and looks out for too much cooperation between drow but at the same time, she makes certain that they do not cause too much chaos. She looks on those who cause chaos in normal drow society with favor [[spoiler: and she doesn't limit herself to evil ones, at that]]. She also orchestrated [[spoiler:the deaths of several of her own children, to ensure that she'd remain as the sole deity of the drow, also being one of the main factors that could have lead to the Spellplague]]. When she went silent to the drow prayers for a long time, she used this time to [[spoiler: reestablish [[spoiler:reestablish herself as a new greater deity, moving the Demonweb Pits away from the Abyss and confirm it as its own plane of existence]].
28th Jun '16 6:59:13 PM TheNerfGuy
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28th Jun '16 9:09:45 AM TheNerfGuy
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* Asmodeus, ruler of Nessus, Ninth Layer of Baator in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''. He is one of the oldest living things in the multiverse, controlling all of the Nine Hells and standing over every other devil. The gods fear him. He once instigated the Reckoning, an EnemyCivilWar, just to root out the more dangerous of his foes... only to promptly step forward and force all of Baator to submit once it stopped being useful to him. His only reaction to [[TheStarscream Mephistopheles]] threatening to take his throne was an amused silence.
** His most epic moment was likely when he first came to rule the Hells, when the Gods sent him to punish those who had sinned, signing a contract to say that Asmodeus could do as he wanted with those souls. Shortly thereafter, the Gods noticed that rather fewer mortals were coming to their planes when they died, and more were going to Hell. They soon found out Asmodeus was deliberately tempting mortals to sin, and confronted him, saying that the contract did not give him permission to tempt mortals. He simply smiled at the gods, and said "ReadTheFinePrint."
** Don't forget that with the update to 4th Edition his status went from merely a powerful archdevil that required a full team of high level epic characters to fight into a full god.
** Asmodeus' first Starscream was Baalzebul, Lord of the Flies. Baalzebul was almost as magnificent as Asmodeus himself. He was a former angel who went to hell and did such a good job taking over that he completely removed all [[UnPerson knowledge of his predecessor's name and identity from existence]]. He managed to control ''two'' levels of Hell, one himself and one through a viceroy, Moloch. Add to that, he actually had Asmodeus' favor. Unfortunately for Baalzebul, during that civil war he led an insurrection that tried to take Asmodeus down. He was thwarted when Mephistopheles' troops turned on the insurrection, and then Asmodeus punished him by changing his form from that of an angel to that of a slug. Baalzebul's still the #3 guy in Hell (behind Asmodeus and Mephistopheles), but looking like a slug pretty much demotes him from MagnificentBastard to TheChessmaster.
** To add to Asmodeus's levels of magnificence, he is one of the few gods in Pathfinder that came directly from D&D, holds the key to the cage of a world eating god, and has a contract with all the other gods stating that they won't attack him, and in return, he won't open the cage.
** An arguable example is the Demon Lord Dagon. Like other Demons, he is ChaoticEvil. ''Unlike'' other Demons however, he is intelligent, rational, and above all, ''patient''. He is reported to be the first Demon Lord spawned from the Abyss, and uses his vast knowledge to manipulate the minds of mortals and demons alike. Oh, and his alliance with Demogorgon, which makes him seem like TheDragon? It's heavily implied that their alliance is [[DragonWithAnAgenda part of a greater scheme in Dagon's benefit]], and in fact he plays a big role in the continuing feud between Demogorgon's SplitPersonality issue. (He only speaks to one of Demogorgon's two minds when giving advice.)
*** And if you look at him, you become terrified of the sea. Did we forget to mention that Dagon lives at the bottom of an Abyssal ocean? ''His very existence insulates him from retribution.''

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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAnddragons'':
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Asmodeus, ruler of Nessus, Ninth Layer of Baator in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''.Baator. He is one of the oldest living things in the multiverse, controlling all of the Nine Hells and standing over every other devil. The gods fear him. He once instigated the Reckoning, an EnemyCivilWar, just to root out the more dangerous of his foes... only to promptly step forward and force all of Baator to submit once it stopped being useful to him. His only reaction to [[TheStarscream Mephistopheles]] threatening to take his throne was an amused silence.
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His most epic moment was likely when he first came to rule the Hells, when the Gods sent him to punish those who had sinned, signing a contract to say that Asmodeus could do as he wanted with those souls. Shortly thereafter, the Gods noticed that rather fewer mortals were coming to their planes when they died, and more were going to Hell. They soon found out Asmodeus was deliberately tempting mortals to sin, and confronted him, saying that the contract did not give him permission to tempt mortals. He simply smiled at the gods, and said "ReadTheFinePrint."
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Don't forget that with the update to 4th Edition his status went from merely a powerful archdevil that required a full team of high level epic characters to fight into a full god.
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To add to Asmodeus's levels of magnificence, he is one of the few gods in Pathfinder that came directly from D&D, holds the key to the cage of a world eating god, and has a contract with all the other gods stating that they won't attack him, and in return, he won't open the cage.
** Asmodeus' first Starscream was Baalzebul, Lord of the Flies. Baalzebul was almost as magnificent as Asmodeus himself. He was a former angel who went to hell and did such a good job taking over that he completely removed all [[UnPerson knowledge of his predecessor's name and identity from existence]]. He managed to control ''two'' levels of Hell, one himself and one through a viceroy, Moloch. Add to that, he actually had Asmodeus' favor. Unfortunately for Baalzebul, during that civil war he led an insurrection that tried to take Asmodeus down. He was thwarted when Mephistopheles' troops turned on the insurrection, and then Asmodeus punished him by changing his form from that of an angel to that of a slug. Baalzebul's still the #3 guy in Hell (behind Asmodeus and Mephistopheles), but looking like a slug pretty much demotes him from MagnificentBastard to TheChessmaster.
** To add to Asmodeus's levels of magnificence, he is one of the few gods in Pathfinder that came directly from D&D, holds the key to the cage of a world eating god, and has a contract with all the other gods stating that they won't attack him, and in return, he won't open the cage.
** An arguable
Another example is the Demon Lord Dagon. Like other Demons, he is ChaoticEvil. ''Unlike'' other Demons however, he is intelligent, rational, and above all, ''patient''. He is reported to be the first Demon Lord spawned from the Abyss, and uses his vast knowledge to manipulate the minds of mortals and demons alike. Oh, and his alliance with Demogorgon, which makes him seem like TheDragon? It's heavily implied that their alliance is [[DragonWithAnAgenda part of a greater scheme in Dagon's benefit]], and in fact he plays a big role in the continuing feud between Demogorgon's SplitPersonality issue. (He only speaks to one of Demogorgon's two minds when giving advice.)
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). Finally, if you look at him, you become terrified of the sea. Did we forget to mention that Dagon lives at the bottom of an Abyssal ocean? ''His very existence insulates him from retribution.''



** The ''entire race'' of Yugoloths are would-be Magnificent Bastards. Not would-be as in smug snakes, would-be as in it's tough to be remarkably magnificent when everyone else thinks and plots just like you do. Less well known than the Devils and Demons, they're NeutralEvil as opposed to LawfulEvil like the Devils or ChaoticEvil like the Demons. The Yugoloths' main stronghold is The Crawling City, a city grafted onto legs that walks around the mountains of Gehenna. Prophecies say that the Blood War will only end once the Crawling City directly intervenes in it.
*** Spoiler, [[spoiler:the prophecies are wrong in this case. In the Forgotten Realms setting, Asomdeus ended the Blood War by pushing the Abyss to the bottom of the Elemental Chaos with no help from the Crawling City.]] He ''is'' a MagnificentBastard!
** Another possible Magnificent (in this case) Bitch would be Lolth. She may seem insane but like Tzeentch, she is either that or very sane. She favors chaos and looks out for too much cooperation between drow but at the same time, she makes certain that they do not cause too much chaos. She looks on those who cause chaos in normal drow society with favor [[spoiler: and she doesn't limit herself to evil ones, at that]]. She also orchestrated [[spoiler: the deaths of several of her own children, to ensure that she'd remain as the sole deity of the drow, also being one of the main factors that could have lead to the Spellplague]]. When she went silent to the drow prayers for a long time, she used this time to [[spoiler: reestablish herself as a new greater deity, moving the Demonweb Pits away from the Abyss and confirm it as its own plane of existence]]. YMMV on this one, but you have to admit Lolth is one ''hell'' of a player in her own.

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** The ''entire race'' of Yugoloths are would-be Magnificent Bastards. Not would-be as in smug snakes, {{Smug Snake}}s, would-be as in it's tough to be remarkably magnificent when everyone else thinks and plots just like you do. Less well known than the Devils and Demons, they're NeutralEvil as opposed to LawfulEvil like the Devils or ChaoticEvil like the Demons. The Yugoloths' main stronghold is The Crawling City, a city grafted onto legs that walks around the mountains of Gehenna. Prophecies say that the Blood War will only end once the Crawling City directly intervenes in it.
*** Spoiler, [[spoiler:the prophecies are wrong in this case.
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In the Forgotten Realms setting, Asomdeus however, [[spoiler:the prophecies are wrong. Asmodeus ended the Blood War by pushing the Abyss to the bottom of the Elemental Chaos with no help from the Crawling City.]] He ''is'' a MagnificentBastard!
** Another possible Magnificent (in this case) Bitch would be Lolth. She may seem insane but like Tzeentch, she is either that or very sane. She favors chaos and looks out for too much cooperation between drow but at the same time, she makes certain that they do not cause too much chaos. She looks on those who cause chaos in normal drow society with favor [[spoiler: and she doesn't limit herself to evil ones, at that]]. She also orchestrated [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the deaths of several of her own children, to ensure that she'd remain as the sole deity of the drow, also being one of the main factors that could have lead to the Spellplague]]. When she went silent to the drow prayers for a long time, she used this time to [[spoiler: reestablish herself as a new greater deity, moving the Demonweb Pits away from the Abyss and confirm it as its own plane of existence]]. YMMV on this one, but you have to admit Lolth is one ''hell'' of a player in her own.



* The Dark Powers of the ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting can be Magnificently Bastard-ish when tormenting their darklord captives, playing off weaknesses and hang-ups that the darklords won't even admit they have. Many fans of the setting remain convinced that the [=DPs=] are on the side of the angels, simply because it's ''villains'' whom they're hassling with such expertise. The fact that they work in secret rather than stepping onstage doesn't disqualify them from this trope, as their resulting mystique more than makes up for it.

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* The Dark Powers of the ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting setting:
** The Dark Powers
can be Magnificently Bastard-ish when tormenting their darklord captives, playing off weaknesses and hang-ups that the darklords won't even admit they have. Many fans of the setting remain convinced that the [=DPs=] are on the side of the angels, simply because it's ''villains'' whom they're hassling with such expertise. The fact that they work in secret rather than stepping onstage doesn't disqualify them from this trope, as their resulting mystique more than makes up for it.



*** Let's just say it. Being a MagnificentBastard is a ''minimum requirement'' for political success in the ''[=BattleTech=]'' universe.



** The TRUE MagnificentBastard regiment of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} is, as said above, the Alpha Legion. Contrary to the Thousand Sons' meticulous planning over the years (which gets screwed up anyway), Alpha Legionnaires are trained to think for themselves and to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise in the heat of battle.]] Their combat doctrines include multiple strikes at various enemy weak points at the same time, using cultist regiments that are well-trained instead of mere cannon fodder, and [[CombatPragmatist fighting dirty when push comes to shove.]] In an event following Literature/HorusHeresy, the Ultramarines clashed with the Alpha Legion and [[DidntSeeThatComing managed to catch them off-guard]] by deploying their best strike force directly to the Alpha Legion's command center. Despite managing to destroy the Alpha Legion's central command which included their Primarch, the Alpha Legion managed to keep their cool and coordination under the circumstances. Using various tactics such as ambush, traps and FalseFlagOperation, they managed to almost completely obliterate the remaining Ultramarine force, forcing the Ultramarines to retreat hastily and their Primarch remarking that he "has no interest in a righteous war against such a dishonorable foe"

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** The TRUE MagnificentBastard regiment of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} is, as said above, is the Alpha Legion. Contrary to the Thousand Sons' meticulous planning over the years (which gets screwed up anyway), Alpha Legionnaires are trained to think for themselves and to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise in the heat of battle.]] Their combat doctrines include multiple strikes at various enemy weak points at the same time, using cultist regiments that are well-trained instead of mere cannon fodder, and [[CombatPragmatist fighting dirty when push comes to shove.]] In an event following Literature/HorusHeresy, the Ultramarines clashed with the Alpha Legion and [[DidntSeeThatComing managed to catch them off-guard]] by deploying their best strike force directly to the Alpha Legion's command center. Despite managing to destroy the Alpha Legion's central command which included their Primarch, the Alpha Legion managed to keep their cool and coordination under the circumstances. Using various tactics such as ambush, traps and FalseFlagOperation, they managed to almost completely obliterate the remaining Ultramarine force, forcing the Ultramarines to retreat hastily and their Primarch remarking that he "has no interest in a righteous war against such a dishonorable foe"
30th May '16 5:19:52 PM FordPrefect
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** Also Sun-Tzu Liao. He turned his crippled state (Courtesy of Hanse Davion above) around in the space of a few years, abused his elected position as the new First Lord of the reborn Star League to allow his nation to legally annex a breakaway state, reclaimed more than half the territory his grandfather lost under the pretense of "Peacekeeping" operations and forged a three-way alliance amongst other dissafected nations. There's (circumstantial) evidence that he even nuked his own capitol to serve as a propaganda piece to provoke hatred of his enemies. In the end [[spoiler: he fakes his own death to ascend to the level of godhood in the eyes of his people]]. In many ways he acts like Hanse Davion, and he noted that he was using techniques he had learned from studying Davion.

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** Also Sun-Tzu Liao. He turned his crippled state (Courtesy (courtesy of Hanse Davion above) around in the space of a few years, abused his elected position as the new First Lord of the reborn Star League to allow his nation to legally annex a breakaway state, reclaimed more than half the territory his grandfather lost under the pretense of "Peacekeeping" operations and forged a three-way alliance amongst other dissafected nations. There's (circumstantial) evidence that he even nuked his own capitol to serve as a propaganda piece to provoke hatred of his enemies. In the end [[spoiler: he fakes his own death to ascend to the level of godhood in the eyes of his people]]. In many ways he acts like Hanse Davion, and he noted that he was using techniques he had learned from studying Davion.
4th Oct '15 11:31:00 PM Yalsaris63
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** While on the subject of ''[=BattleTech=]'', let us not forget Ulric Kerensky. Even when introduced as 'merely' the Khan of Clan Wolf, he already comes across as this; once voted into the position of ilKhan and forced to ''lead'' an invasion he's vehemently opposed to [[note]]the "Warden" clan philosophy, as opposed to the more militant "Crusader" philosophy[[/note]], he manages to ever-so-subtly sabotage it without ever committing an outright act of treason (most notably by playing on the fatuity of the other leaders and letting them get hoist by their own petards when they're too full of themselves to ask for advice or instructions), ultimately culminating in a fifteen-year truce -- and then, when later challenged over it, sets into motion a plan to cripple the Clan pushing the hardest to resume the invasion while making sure part of his ''own'' Clan survives to keep defending the Inner Sphere in the future, even though it will cost his own life among others. Throughout it all and even posthumously he's never depicted as being anything less than completely in control and on top of events.

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** While on the subject of ''[=BattleTech=]'', let us not forget Ulric Kerensky. Even when introduced as 'merely' the Khan of Clan Wolf, he already comes across as this; once voted into the position of ilKhan and forced to ''lead'' an invasion he's vehemently opposed to [[note]]the [[note]]he espoused the "Warden" clan philosophy, as opposed to the more militant "Crusader" philosophy[[/note]], he manages to ever-so-subtly sabotage it without ever committing an outright act of treason (most notably by playing on the fatuity of the other leaders and letting them get hoist by their own petards when they're too full of themselves to ask for advice or instructions), ultimately culminating in a fifteen-year truce -- and then, when later challenged over it, sets into motion a plan to cripple the Clan pushing the hardest to resume the invasion while making sure part of his ''own'' Clan survives to keep defending the Inner Sphere in the future, even though it will cost his own life among others. Throughout it all and even posthumously he's never depicted as being anything less than completely in control and on top of events.
15th Sep '15 1:18:02 PM Yalsaris63
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** While on the subject of ''[=BattleTech=]'', let us not forget Ulric Kerensky. Even when introduced as 'merely' the Khan of Clan Wolf, he already comes across as this; once voted into the position of ilKhan and forced to ''lead'' an invasion he's vehemently opposed to [[note]]the "Warden" clan philosophy, as opposed to the more militant "Crusader" philosophy[[/note]], he manages to ever-so-subtly sabotage it without ever committing an outright act of treason (most notably by playing on the vanity of the other leaders and letting them get hoist by their own petards when they're too full of themselves to ask for advice or instructions), ultimately culminating in a fifteen-year truce -- and then, when later challenged over it, sets into motion a plan to cripple the Clan pushing the hardest to resume the invasion while making sure part of his ''own'' Clan survives to keep defending the Inner Sphere in the future, even though it will cost his own life among others. Throughout it all and even posthumously he's never depicted as being anything less than completely in control and on top of events.

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** While on the subject of ''[=BattleTech=]'', let us not forget Ulric Kerensky. Even when introduced as 'merely' the Khan of Clan Wolf, he already comes across as this; once voted into the position of ilKhan and forced to ''lead'' an invasion he's vehemently opposed to [[note]]the "Warden" clan philosophy, as opposed to the more militant "Crusader" philosophy[[/note]], he manages to ever-so-subtly sabotage it without ever committing an outright act of treason (most notably by playing on the vanity fatuity of the other leaders and letting them get hoist by their own petards when they're too full of themselves to ask for advice or instructions), ultimately culminating in a fifteen-year truce -- and then, when later challenged over it, sets into motion a plan to cripple the Clan pushing the hardest to resume the invasion while making sure part of his ''own'' Clan survives to keep defending the Inner Sphere in the future, even though it will cost his own life among others. Throughout it all and even posthumously he's never depicted as being anything less than completely in control and on top of events.
15th Sep '15 1:07:17 PM Yalsaris63
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*** Let's just say it. Being a MagnificentBastard is a ''minimum requirement'' for politial success in the ''[=BattleTech=]'' universe.

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*** Let's just say it. Being a MagnificentBastard is a ''minimum requirement'' for politial political success in the ''[=BattleTech=]'' universe.
21st Jun '15 2:45:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* Khazrak the One-eye, a beastmen leader from ''WarhammerFantasy''. A ruthlessly efficient beastmen who uses simple yet effective ambushing tactics. He has a rather one-sided FriendlyEnemy relationship with the count of Middleland and really believes in an eye for an eye. Even though the count sends knights, soldiers and mercenaries his way, and has put a price of a whopping 10,000 gold pieces on his head, Khazrak keeps one-upping everyone he meets (and even if he somehow gets caught, he will escape and exact revenge on whoever caught him). The fact that he's from a race that's not too good when it comes to smarts is just icing on the cake.

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* Khazrak the One-eye, a beastmen leader from ''WarhammerFantasy''.''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy''. A ruthlessly efficient beastmen who uses simple yet effective ambushing tactics. He has a rather one-sided FriendlyEnemy relationship with the count of Middleland and really believes in an eye for an eye. Even though the count sends knights, soldiers and mercenaries his way, and has put a price of a whopping 10,000 gold pieces on his head, Khazrak keeps one-upping everyone he meets (and even if he somehow gets caught, he will escape and exact revenge on whoever caught him). The fact that he's from a race that's not too good when it comes to smarts is just icing on the cake.



* If you play ''{{Diplomacy}}'' and aren't a MagnificentBastard, you lose. End of story.
* Duke Rowan Darkwood, factol of the Fated in ''{{Planescape}}''. Where to begin? His backstory is that, after retiring from a successful career in adventuring, he successfully out-cheated a devil in a card game for the souls of his family, then spent the next decade being tortured in the pits of {{Hell}}, before being released on the grounds that he was too tough to be fun torturing anymore. Upon arrival in Sigil, he took over one of the city's most powerful factions in under a month, persuaded the leader of the [[KnightTemplar Mercykillers]] faction to team up with him, and immediately began plotting to conquer the entire city. After setting off the Faction War and eventually being defeated, he became one of only three known people in recorded history to escape from one of [[PowersThatBe the Lady of Pain's]] [[MobileMaze Mazes]].

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* If you play ''{{Diplomacy}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Diplomacy}}'' and aren't a MagnificentBastard, you lose. End of story.
* Duke Rowan Darkwood, factol of the Fated in ''{{Planescape}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}''. Where to begin? His backstory is that, after retiring from a successful career in adventuring, he successfully out-cheated a devil in a card game for the souls of his family, then spent the next decade being tortured in the pits of {{Hell}}, before being released on the grounds that he was too tough to be fun torturing anymore. Upon arrival in Sigil, he took over one of the city's most powerful factions in under a month, persuaded the leader of the [[KnightTemplar Mercykillers]] faction to team up with him, and immediately began plotting to conquer the entire city. After setting off the Faction War and eventually being defeated, he became one of only three known people in recorded history to escape from one of [[PowersThatBe the Lady of Pain's]] [[MobileMaze Mazes]].



* Nicol Bolas of ''MagicTheGathering'' is slowly becoming one. The oldest being in the multiverse, he successfully manipulated other planeswalkers into sacrificing themselves to fix universes, as well as having deceived [[CloserToEarth Sarkhan Vol]] into becoming his stooge and awaken the [[EldritchAbomination Eldrazi]] for a yet-to-be-revealed scheme. He's such a MagnificentBastard that he bullied, coaxed, or conned the designers to give him a card that, for raw power (though probably not game-breaking effectiveness like Jace), is probably stronger than any other Planeswalker yet printed.

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* Nicol Bolas of ''MagicTheGathering'' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' is slowly becoming one. The oldest being in the multiverse, he successfully manipulated other planeswalkers into sacrificing themselves to fix universes, as well as having deceived [[CloserToEarth Sarkhan Vol]] into becoming his stooge and awaken the [[EldritchAbomination Eldrazi]] for a yet-to-be-revealed scheme. He's such a MagnificentBastard that he bullied, coaxed, or conned the designers to give him a card that, for raw power (though probably not game-breaking effectiveness like Jace), is probably stronger than any other Planeswalker yet printed.



* Cyric in Forgotten Realms. [[ObfuscatingStupidity Pretends]] to hold the IdiotBall for almost ten years, but ends up getting exactly what he wanted and manipulates almost the entire pantheon of Greater Gods and ends the love of an Established Couple. He eventually KILLS one of the most powerful goddesses in the entire Realms through some XanatosSpeedChess between he and another Greater Evil God. He also convinces an EldritchAbomination to work for him and seals his loyalty so much that the thing is still loyal to him to this day. This guy puts the "bastard" in MagnificentBastard.

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* Cyric in Forgotten Realms.TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms. [[ObfuscatingStupidity Pretends]] to hold the IdiotBall for almost ten years, but ends up getting exactly what he wanted and manipulates almost the entire pantheon of Greater Gods and ends the love of an Established Couple. He eventually KILLS one of the most powerful goddesses in the entire Realms through some XanatosSpeedChess between he and another Greater Evil God. He also convinces an EldritchAbomination to work for him and seals his loyalty so much that the thing is still loyal to him to this day. This guy puts the "bastard" in MagnificentBastard.
19th Jun '15 1:56:17 PM justanid
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* The Dark Powers of the {{Ravenloft}} setting can be Magnificently Bastard-ish when tormenting their darklord captives, playing off weaknesses and hang-ups that the darklords won't even admit they have. Many fans of the setting remain convinced that the [=DPs=] are on the side of the angels, simply because it's ''villains'' whom they're hassling with such expertise. The fact that they work in secret rather than stepping onstage doesn't disqualify them from this trope, as their resulting mystique more than makes up for it.

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* The Dark Powers of the {{Ravenloft}} ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' setting can be Magnificently Bastard-ish when tormenting their darklord captives, playing off weaknesses and hang-ups that the darklords won't even admit they have. Many fans of the setting remain convinced that the [=DPs=] are on the side of the angels, simply because it's ''villains'' whom they're hassling with such expertise. The fact that they work in secret rather than stepping onstage doesn't disqualify them from this trope, as their resulting mystique more than makes up for it.



* Cleon Zhunastu, founder of the Third Imperium in ''{{Traveller}}''. He actually did better than Palpatine because his Empire lasted for more then a thousand years. He manipulated dozens of powerful men and thousands of planets into forming the Third Imperium.

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* Cleon Zhunastu, founder of the Third Imperium in ''{{Traveller}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}''. He actually did better than Palpatine because his Empire lasted for more then a thousand years. He manipulated dozens of powerful men and thousands of planets into forming the Third Imperium.



* ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'' has the Scorpion Clan, which basically trains every single member from birth to try to live up to this trope, with a frightening degree of success. However, while the Scorpion Clan might specialize in it (and get the most attention for it), just about every major organization in the setting has a good half-dozen or so examples that qualify. Of course, there's also the [[AncientConspiracy Kolat]], who tend to be as magnificently bastardy as the Scorpion Clan but for entirely different reasons. That is, until the Scorpion Clan found the Kolat's [[SupervillainLair secret hideout]] and, in a surprisingly unsubtle but extremely effective maneuver, sent in a crack team of killers to wipe out as many Kolat as possible and stole the Kolat's [[CrystalBall magic scrying device]] that they needed to remain the [[PalantirPloy super-secret all-knowing conspiracy]], thus giving the Scorpion Clan a monopoly on Magnificient Bastardry within the Empire.

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* ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'' ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings'' has the Scorpion Clan, which basically trains every single member from birth to try to live up to this trope, with a frightening degree of success. However, while the Scorpion Clan might specialize in it (and get the most attention for it), just about every major organization in the setting has a good half-dozen or so examples that qualify. Of course, there's also the [[AncientConspiracy Kolat]], who tend to be as magnificently bastardy as the Scorpion Clan but for entirely different reasons. That is, until the Scorpion Clan found the Kolat's [[SupervillainLair secret hideout]] and, in a surprisingly unsubtle but extremely effective maneuver, sent in a crack team of killers to wipe out as many Kolat as possible and stole the Kolat's [[CrystalBall magic scrying device]] that they needed to remain the [[PalantirPloy super-secret all-knowing conspiracy]], thus giving the Scorpion Clan a monopoly on Magnificient Bastardry within the Empire.



* The NewWorldOfDarkness sourcebook ''Mirrors'' includes the Merit "[[InvokedTrope Magnificent Bastard]]", which means that a character suffers from no situational penalties for attempts to Sway others (i.e. no matter how guarded a person is due to warning, previous betrayal, or catching the character in a compromising position, the character will always find a way to get in with them).

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* The NewWorldOfDarkness ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' sourcebook ''Mirrors'' includes the Merit "[[InvokedTrope Magnificent Bastard]]", which means that a character suffers from no situational penalties for attempts to Sway others (i.e. no matter how guarded a person is due to warning, previous betrayal, or catching the character in a compromising position, the character will always find a way to get in with them).



* The ''FreedomCity'' campaign setting for ''MutantsAndMasterminds'' has August Tiberius Roman, old-school mafioso-turned-supervillain and {{archenemy}} of The Centurion, the setting's analogue for Superman. An elder statesman of supervillainy, Roman got his start during the GoldenAge and remains a going concern in the ModernAge, having only semiretired despite being well into his nineties. He's never been convicted, and has easily made the transition from TheDon to supervillain backer to "Emperor of Crime", to propriotor of an underground fight club ring. He's never had a setback he couldn't recover from, and even in his old age, bereft of his criminal empire, he remains a potent force in the underworld. Couple that with his expert planning, skill as a manipulator, and sense of style, and the fact that for sixty years he managed to vex an immortal near PhysicalGod despite his own ever advancing age, and you have an archetypal MB.

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* The ''FreedomCity'' ''TabletopGame/FreedomCity'' campaign setting for ''MutantsAndMasterminds'' ''TabletopGame/MutantsAndMasterminds'' has August Tiberius Roman, old-school mafioso-turned-supervillain and {{archenemy}} of The Centurion, the setting's analogue for Superman. An elder statesman of supervillainy, Roman got his start during the GoldenAge and remains a going concern in the ModernAge, having only semiretired despite being well into his nineties. He's never been convicted, and has easily made the transition from TheDon to supervillain backer to "Emperor of Crime", to propriotor of an underground fight club ring. He's never had a setback he couldn't recover from, and even in his old age, bereft of his criminal empire, he remains a potent force in the underworld. Couple that with his expert planning, skill as a manipulator, and sense of style, and the fact that for sixty years he managed to vex an immortal near PhysicalGod despite his own ever advancing age, and you have an archetypal MB.
23rd May '15 8:38:45 PM nombretomado
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** The TRUE MagnificentBastard regiment of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} is, as said above, the Alpha Legion. Contrary to the Thousand Sons' meticulous planning over the years (which gets screwed up anyway), Alpha Legionnaires are trained to think for themselves and to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise in the heat of battle.]] Their combat doctrines include multiple strikes at various enemy weak points at the same time, using cultist regiments that are well-trained instead of mere cannon fodder, and [[CombatPragmatist fighting dirty when push comes to shove.]] In an event following HorusHeresy, the Ultramarines clashed with the Alpha Legion and [[DidntSeeThatComing managed to catch them off-guard]] by deploying their best strike force directly to the Alpha Legion's command center. Despite managing to destroy the Alpha Legion's central command which included their Primarch, the Alpha Legion managed to keep their cool and coordination under the circumstances. Using various tactics such as ambush, traps and FalseFlagOperation, they managed to almost completely obliterate the remaining Ultramarine force, forcing the Ultramarines to retreat hastily and their Primarch remarking that he "has no interest in a righteous war against such a dishonorable foe"

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** The TRUE MagnificentBastard regiment of TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} is, as said above, the Alpha Legion. Contrary to the Thousand Sons' meticulous planning over the years (which gets screwed up anyway), Alpha Legionnaires are trained to think for themselves and to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise in the heat of battle.]] Their combat doctrines include multiple strikes at various enemy weak points at the same time, using cultist regiments that are well-trained instead of mere cannon fodder, and [[CombatPragmatist fighting dirty when push comes to shove.]] In an event following HorusHeresy, Literature/HorusHeresy, the Ultramarines clashed with the Alpha Legion and [[DidntSeeThatComing managed to catch them off-guard]] by deploying their best strike force directly to the Alpha Legion's command center. Despite managing to destroy the Alpha Legion's central command which included their Primarch, the Alpha Legion managed to keep their cool and coordination under the circumstances. Using various tactics such as ambush, traps and FalseFlagOperation, they managed to almost completely obliterate the remaining Ultramarine force, forcing the Ultramarines to retreat hastily and their Primarch remarking that he "has no interest in a righteous war against such a dishonorable foe"
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