History MagnificentBastard / Other

30th May '16 5:18:01 PM FordPrefect
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* Wrestling/{{Raven}} during his ECW run was (And still is) considered to be one of the most [[GeniusBruiser intelligent]], [[DarkMessiah manipulative]] and [[LoveToHate charismatic]] wrestlers in the business. He's also an outright GeniusBruiser, having an [=IQ=] of 160.

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* Wrestling/{{Raven}} during his ECW run was (And (and still is) considered to be one of the most [[GeniusBruiser intelligent]], [[DarkMessiah manipulative]] and [[LoveToHate charismatic]] wrestlers in the business. He's also an outright GeniusBruiser, having an [=IQ=] of 160.
30th May '16 5:14:50 PM FordPrefect
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* Some tellings of "The Scorpion and the Frog" depict the scorpion as being this, in stark contrast to [[StupidEvil how the original story depicted him]]. After convincing the frog to let him ride him across the river, the scorpion stings and kills the frog because [[ILied he knew how to swim all along]]; he knew the frog was too much of a altruist to refuse help, so he lied in order to trick his hated enemy into making himself vulnerable.

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* Some tellings of "The Scorpion and the Frog" depict the scorpion as being this, in stark contrast to [[StupidEvil how the original story depicted him]]. After convincing the frog to let him ride him across the river, the scorpion stings and kills the frog because [[ILied he knew how to swim all along]]; he knew the frog was too much of a an altruist to refuse help, so he lied in order to trick his hated enemy into making himself vulnerable.
23rd May '16 6:07:11 AM USABobcat
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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well). [[note]]Rommel was going to die anyway, for his ties to the July 20th Plot to kill Hitler (Historical evidence is muddled on the issue, but the Nazis believed it enough to have Rommel killed). However, due to Rommel's massive popularity with the troops, German high command was worried that if they announced Rommel to be a traitor to the Reich, they would face a widespread uprising within the Wehrmacht. Simply put, Rommel was so popular that if the Nazi command called him a traitor, a large number of the army would wonder what had caused ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Rommel]]'' of all people to become a traitor, and would begin questioning their orders.[[/note]]

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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well). [[note]]Rommel was going to die anyway, for his ties to the July 20th Plot to kill Hitler (Historical (historical evidence is muddled on the issue, whether or not he was a conspirator, but the Nazis believed it enough to have Rommel killed). However, due to Rommel's massive popularity with the troops, German high command was worried that if they announced Rommel to be a traitor to the Reich, they would face a widespread uprising within the Wehrmacht. Simply put, Rommel was so popular that if the Nazi command called him a traitor, a large number of the army would wonder what had caused ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Rommel]]'' of all people to become a traitor, and would begin questioning their orders.[[/note]]
23rd May '16 6:06:40 AM USABobcat
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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well). [[note]]Rommel was going to die anyway, for his ''confusing'' ties to the July 20th Plot to kill Hitler. However, due to Rommel's massive popularity with the troops, German high command was worried that if they announced Rommel to be a traitor to the Reich, they would face a widespread uprising within the Wehrmacht. Simply put, Rommel was so popular that if the Nazi command called him a traitor, a large number of the army would wonder what had caused ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Rommel]]'' of all people to become a traitor, and would begin questioning their orders.[[/note]]

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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well). [[note]]Rommel was going to die anyway, for his ''confusing'' ties to the July 20th Plot to kill Hitler.Hitler (Historical evidence is muddled on the issue, but the Nazis believed it enough to have Rommel killed). However, due to Rommel's massive popularity with the troops, German high command was worried that if they announced Rommel to be a traitor to the Reich, they would face a widespread uprising within the Wehrmacht. Simply put, Rommel was so popular that if the Nazi command called him a traitor, a large number of the army would wonder what had caused ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Rommel]]'' of all people to become a traitor, and would begin questioning their orders.[[/note]]
23rd May '16 6:05:44 AM USABobcat
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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well).

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* Amazingly, UsefulNotes/ErwinRommel, the TropeNamer himself, is ''not'' an example. Rommel was an AntiVillain at worst, sparing or even rescuing enemy prisoners and refugees where his fellow commanders would've shot them personally. He was Magnificent not because he was a Bastard with style, but because he wasn't a Bastard at all. In fact, he was popular enough with both his rivals and his enemies that he was allowed to commit suicide rather than face trial and execution for treason (the difference being the latter would've had his family executed as well).
well). [[note]]Rommel was going to die anyway, for his ''confusing'' ties to the July 20th Plot to kill Hitler. However, due to Rommel's massive popularity with the troops, German high command was worried that if they announced Rommel to be a traitor to the Reich, they would face a widespread uprising within the Wehrmacht. Simply put, Rommel was so popular that if the Nazi command called him a traitor, a large number of the army would wonder what had caused ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Rommel]]'' of all people to become a traitor, and would begin questioning their orders.[[/note]]
2nd May '16 8:04:20 PM Whoa15
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* Music/Voltaires' "When You're Evil" is so gleeful as he recounts all his evil deeds.
** I'm the fear that keeps you awake/ I'm the shadows on the wall/ I'm the monster they become/ I'm the nightmare in your skull/ I'm the dagger in your back/ the extra turn upon the rack/ I'm the whimper of your heart/ a sudden pain a sudden start
14th Mar '16 4:44:41 AM thok
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* Menelik II, emperor of Ethiopia. Starting out as king of Shewa (then one of the kingdoms in which Ethiopia was divided), he skillfully manipulated his rivals until emperor Yohannes IV paid for his life his attempt at manipulating the Mahists, at which point he seized the throne with Italian help. Then he found out the Italians had scammed him, the international version of his treaty with them making Ethiopia a protectorate... So he allied with Mengesha Yohannes, ruler of Tigray and Yohannes IV's chosen successor, defeated the Italians after arming parts of his troops with ''rifles he bought from the Italians at credit'', and in the peace treaty he ''gave half of Tigray to the Italians'' to weaken the one man who could conceivably stop him from doing away with Ethiopia's heavy fragmentation.
6th Mar '16 4:37:29 PM GrammarNavi
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* Wrestling/{{WWE}} Chairman [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] could qualify as this, both on-screen and in RealLife. In the early 80s, he was the only promoter to really see the potential of cable television. Through a series of risky deals, he turned his father's World Wide Wrestling Federation into the largest professional wrestling promotion in North America that has held a monopoly on the sport ever since, bar a short period in the late 90s when {{WCW}} dethroned his company. He also managed to turn [[XPacHeat real-life fan hatred of him]] due to the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob into legitimate {{Heel}} heat, becoming the "Mr. [=McMahon=]" character, which was his own personality only ''more so''. Mr. [=McMahon=] even became one of WWE's most enduring characters and a huge draw in his own right. As well as a MagnificentBastard, despite, or perhaps because of, his ability to suffer extreme humiliation (remember that time Steve Austin attacked him in the hospital and hit him with a bedpan?) and in the long run stay on top of his company anyway.

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* Wrestling/{{WWE}} Chairman [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] could qualify as this, both on-screen and in RealLife. In the early 80s, he was the only promoter to really see the potential of cable television. Through a series of risky deals, he turned his father's World Wide Wrestling Federation into the largest professional wrestling promotion in North America that has held a monopoly on the sport ever since, bar a short period in the late 90s when {{WCW}} Wrestling/{{WCW}} dethroned his company. He also managed to turn [[XPacHeat real-life fan hatred of him]] due to the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob into legitimate {{Heel}} heat, becoming the "Mr. [=McMahon=]" character, which was his own personality only ''more so''. Mr. [=McMahon=] even became one of WWE's most enduring characters and a huge draw in his own right. As well as a MagnificentBastard, despite, or perhaps because of, his ability to suffer extreme humiliation (remember that time Steve Austin attacked him in the hospital and hit him with a bedpan?) and in the long run stay on top of his company anyway.
23rd Dec '15 11:04:51 PM SSJMagus
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* Wrestling/{{WWE}} Chairman [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince [=McMahon=]]] could qualify as this, both on-screen and in RealLife. In the early 80s, he was the only promoter to really see the potential of cable television. Through a series of risky deals, he turned his father's World Wide Wrestling Federation into the largest professional wrestling promotion in North America that has held a monopoly on the sport ever since, bar a short period in the late 90s when {{WCW}} dethroned his company. He also managed to turn [[XPacHeat real-life fan hatred of him]] due to the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob into legitimate {{Heel}} heat, becoming the "[=Mr. [=McMahon=]" character, which was his own personality only ''more so''. Mr. [=McMahon=] even became one of WWE's most enduring characters and a huge draw in his own right. As well as a MagnificentBastard, despite, or perhaps because of, his ability to suffer extreme humiliation (remember that time Steve Austin attacked him in the hospital and hit him with a bedpan?) and in the long run stay on top of his company anyway.

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* Wrestling/{{WWE}} Chairman [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince [=McMahon=]]] McMahon]] could qualify as this, both on-screen and in RealLife. In the early 80s, he was the only promoter to really see the potential of cable television. Through a series of risky deals, he turned his father's World Wide Wrestling Federation into the largest professional wrestling promotion in North America that has held a monopoly on the sport ever since, bar a short period in the late 90s when {{WCW}} dethroned his company. He also managed to turn [[XPacHeat real-life fan hatred of him]] due to the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob into legitimate {{Heel}} heat, becoming the "[=Mr."Mr. [=McMahon=]" character, which was his own personality only ''more so''. Mr. [=McMahon=] even became one of WWE's most enduring characters and a huge draw in his own right. As well as a MagnificentBastard, despite, or perhaps because of, his ability to suffer extreme humiliation (remember that time Steve Austin attacked him in the hospital and hit him with a bedpan?) and in the long run stay on top of his company anyway.
5th Sep '15 1:54:51 PM EDP
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* Menelik II, emperor of Ethiopia. Starting out as king of Shewa (then one of the kingdoms in which Ethiopia was divided), he skillfully manipulated his rivals until emperor Yohannes IV paid for his life his attempt at manipulating the Mahists, at which point he seized the throne with Italian help. Then he found out the Italians had scammed him, the international version of his treaty with them making Ethiopia a protectorate... So he allied with Mengesha Yohannes, ruler of Tigray and Yohannes IV's chosen successor, defeated the Italians after arming parts of his troops with ''rifles he bought from the Italians at credit'', and in the peace treaty he ''gave half of Tigray to the Italians'' to weaken the one man who could conceivably stop him from doing away with Ethiopia's heavy fragmentation.
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