History MagnificentBastard / Film

8th Jan '17 9:55:57 PM FordPrefect
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** Helmut Zemo, from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. He [[spoiler:frames Bucky for an attack on the UN to start a manhunt against him, then after Bucky is captured, he impersonates a UN interrogator to activate Bucky's TriggerPhrase and cause him to remember the other Winter Soldiers. Finally, he leaks his ruse to the media, [[BatmanGambit counting on Tony Stark following Cap and Bucky to the Hydra compound in Siberia]] so he can accomplish his real plan: show Tony evidence that Bucky killed his parents, causing him to fly into a murderous rage and give Bucky and Cap a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown. By the end, in spite of being captured by T'Challa, [[TheBadGuyWins he has still succeeded in what he planned to do]]: tear the Avengers apart.]] Even more impressive is that Zemo is [[VillainousUnderdog a normal man with no powers]], relying on [[TheChessmaster his planning skills]] and ThePowerOfHate]].

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** Helmut Zemo, from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. He [[spoiler:frames Bucky for an attack on the UN to start a manhunt against him, then after Bucky is captured, he impersonates a UN interrogator to activate Bucky's TriggerPhrase and cause him to remember the other Winter Soldiers. Finally, he leaks his ruse to the media, [[BatmanGambit counting on Tony Stark following Cap and Bucky to the Hydra compound in Siberia]] so he can accomplish his real plan: show Tony evidence that Bucky killed his parents, causing him to fly into a murderous rage and give Bucky and Cap a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown. By the end, in spite of being captured by T'Challa, [[TheBadGuyWins he has still succeeded in what he planned to do]]: tear the Avengers apart.]] Even more impressive is that Zemo is [[VillainousUnderdog a normal man with no powers]], relying on [[TheChessmaster his planning skills]] and ThePowerOfHate]].ThePowerOfHate.
8th Jan '17 9:53:23 PM FordPrefect
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** Nick Fury is a rare heroic example; he constantly lies and manipulates everyone around him, and he's good enough at it that even when they don't like working with him, they still end up helping him in the way he wants them to. In fact, if it wasn't for him, [[spoiler: in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' [[BigBad Hydra]] would have successfully eradicated S.H.I.E.L.D. and launched [[KillThemAll Project Insight]].]] Although his tendencies to do this was Deconstructed as it showed that no one really trust him and sometimes outright refused to follow his plan... except that he also anticipates this and counteracts accordingly to adapt to their behavior or at least offers a [[TheExtremistWasRIght reasonable explanation]]. ''He is just that good''.

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** Nick Fury is a rare heroic example; he constantly lies and manipulates everyone around him, and he's good enough at it that even when they don't like working with him, they still end up helping him in the way he wants them to. In fact, if it wasn't for him, [[spoiler: in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' [[BigBad Hydra]] would have successfully eradicated S.H.I.E.L.D. and launched [[KillThemAll Project Insight]].]] Although his tendencies to do this was Deconstructed were deconstructed, as it showed that no one really trust trusted him and sometimes they outright refused to follow his plan... except that he also anticipates this and counteracts accordingly to adapt to their behavior behavior, or at least offers a [[TheExtremistWasRIght reasonable explanation]]. ''He is just that good''.
8th Jan '17 9:49:22 PM FordPrefect
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** ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'': Maleficent is perhaps the most formidable Disney villain overall, with a great sense of class and style. Offended by not being invited to Aurora's christening, she lures everyone into a false sense of hope, before cursing the infant Aurora to die by pricking her finger on the spindle. All before the sunset of her sixteenth birthday, causing a long period of despair among the kingdom. In order to protect Aurora, Merryweather uses her remaining gift to ensure Aurora doesn't die. Despite this, the three fairies had to think outside of the box, as Maleficent is wise to their attempts to save her. Even when the fairies managed to stay under the radar by raising Aurora in secret, without using magic, they still had to take extreme precautions. Because of ''one small moment of weakness'', Maleficent managed to undo their hard work. Maleficent proves to be quite cunning; even after King Stephan had every spindle in the kingdom burned, she created a new one, fulfilling her evil prophecy. She even captured Prince Phillip to cruelly yet ingeniously subvert the true love's kiss that would awaken Aurora, by keeping him until he is old and decrepit, while gloating to her prisoner. Having ultimately succeeding in her plans, Maleficent is the first Disney villain that required direct action for her defeat, as she was far too intelligent to be undone by her own hand. And being an immensely powerful fairy, it took the combined efforts of the three fairies, and Prince Phillip to even stand a chance.
* Jenner, from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''. He's FauxAffablyEvil, as well as very competent, being one of the most successful movie villains in history, seeing how he succeeds in killing Nicodemus by cutting one of the ropes used to carry Mrs. Brisby's home to another location and causing the house to drop, drag him with it, and crush him under its weight. And not only that, he makes it look like an accident so that no one suspects his evil deed. Now, had he focused his attention on Mrs. Brisby warning the other rats of NIMH about exterminators coming to kill them, as well as Sullivan telling Justin about his plans, he would've gotten away with his plan to prevent the rats from moving to Thorn Valley.

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** ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'': Maleficent is perhaps the most formidable Disney villain overall, with a great sense of class and style. Offended by not being invited to Aurora's christening, she lures everyone into a false sense of hope, before cursing the infant Aurora to die by pricking her finger on the spindle. All before the sunset of her sixteenth birthday, causing a long period of despair among the kingdom. In order to protect Aurora, Merryweather uses her remaining gift to ensure Aurora doesn't die. Despite this, the three fairies had to think outside of the box, as Maleficent is wise to their attempts to save her. Even when the fairies managed to stay under the radar by raising Aurora in secret, without using magic, they still had to take extreme precautions. Because of ''one small moment of weakness'', Maleficent managed to undo their hard work. Maleficent proves to be quite cunning; even after King Stephan had every spindle in the kingdom burned, she created a new one, fulfilling her evil prophecy. She even captured Prince Phillip to cruelly yet ingeniously subvert the true love's kiss that would awaken Aurora, by keeping him until he is old and decrepit, while gloating to her prisoner. Having ultimately succeeding in her plans, Maleficent is the first Disney villain that required direct action for her defeat, as she was far too intelligent to be undone by her own hand. And being an immensely powerful fairy, it took the combined efforts of the three fairies, fairies and Prince Phillip to even stand a chance.
* Jenner, from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''. He's FauxAffablyEvil, as well as very competent, being one of the most successful movie villains in history, seeing how he succeeds in killing Nicodemus by cutting one of the ropes used to carry Mrs. Brisby's home to another location and causing the house to drop, drag him with it, and crush him under its weight. And not only that, he [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident makes it look like an accident accident]] so that no one suspects his evil deed. Now, had he focused his attention on Mrs. Brisby warning the other rats of NIMH about exterminators coming to kill them, as well as Sullivan telling Justin about his plans, he would've gotten away with his plan to prevent the rats from moving to Thorn Valley.
8th Jan '17 9:48:29 PM FordPrefect
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** ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'': Maleficent is perhaps the most formidable Disney villain overall, with a great sense of class and style. Offended by not being invited to the Aurora's christening, she lures everyone into a false sense of hope, before cursing the infant Aurora to die by pricking her finger on the spindle. All before the sunset of her sixteenth birthday, causing a long period despair among the kingdom. In order to protect Aurora, Merryweather uses her remaining gift to ensure Aurora doesn't die. Despite this, the three fairies had to think outside of the box, as Maleficent is wise to their attempts to save her. Even when the fairies managed to stay under the radar by raising Aurora in secret, without using magic, they still had to take extreme precautions. Because of ''one small moment of weakness'', Maleficent managed to undo their hard work. Maleficent proves to be quite cunning; even after King Stephan had every spindle in the kingdom burned, she created a new one, fulfilling her evil prophecy. She even captured Prince Phillip to cruelly yet ingeniously subvert the true love's kiss that would awaken Aurora, by keeping him until he is old and decrepit, while gloating to her prisoner. Having ultimately succeeding in her plans, Maleficent is the first Disney villain that required direct action for her defeat, as she was far too intelligent to be undone by her own hand. And being an immensely powerful fairy, it took the combined efforts of the three fairies, and Prince Phillip to even stand a chance.

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** ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'': Maleficent is perhaps the most formidable Disney villain overall, with a great sense of class and style. Offended by not being invited to the Aurora's christening, she lures everyone into a false sense of hope, before cursing the infant Aurora to die by pricking her finger on the spindle. All before the sunset of her sixteenth birthday, causing a long period of despair among the kingdom. In order to protect Aurora, Merryweather uses her remaining gift to ensure Aurora doesn't die. Despite this, the three fairies had to think outside of the box, as Maleficent is wise to their attempts to save her. Even when the fairies managed to stay under the radar by raising Aurora in secret, without using magic, they still had to take extreme precautions. Because of ''one small moment of weakness'', Maleficent managed to undo their hard work. Maleficent proves to be quite cunning; even after King Stephan had every spindle in the kingdom burned, she created a new one, fulfilling her evil prophecy. She even captured Prince Phillip to cruelly yet ingeniously subvert the true love's kiss that would awaken Aurora, by keeping him until he is old and decrepit, while gloating to her prisoner. Having ultimately succeeding in her plans, Maleficent is the first Disney villain that required direct action for her defeat, as she was far too intelligent to be undone by her own hand. And being an immensely powerful fairy, it took the combined efforts of the three fairies, and Prince Phillip to even stand a chance.
8th Jan '17 9:47:41 PM FordPrefect
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** ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'': Jafar. While he was a SmugSnake ([[ScaledUp and a literal one]]) in the first movie, he learned of his mistakes and graduated to a MagnificentBastard in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar second movie]]. The first thing he did when he was freed by Abis Mal was to play on Mal's greed for gold, fear for his life and his hatred for Aladdin in order to make him at first waste two wishes at nothing and then convince him to help him with promises of large riches and revenge on Aladdin. Once he had Abis Mal around his finger, he decided to force his former ally Iago to work for him again and use the trust Aladdin had developed for Iago into fooling him and the Sultan away from Agrabah into a trap, while himself took care of Genie and Abu. When the trap proved successful, he made it look like Aladdin had killed Sultan simply by placing his hat, slashed, in Aladdin's room (although the Sultan was actually still alive and captured). Then he impersonated Jasmine and ordered Aladdin to be executed. If he had turned more attention on [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Iago's conflicting behavior]], then maybe [[TheBadGuyWins he would've been the one who won]].

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** ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'': Jafar. While he was a SmugSnake ([[ScaledUp and a literal one]]) in the first movie, he learned of his mistakes and graduated to a MagnificentBastard in the [[Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar second movie]]. The first thing he did when he was freed by Abis Mal was to play on Mal's greed for gold, fear for his life and his hatred for Aladdin in order to make him at first waste two wishes at nothing and then convince him to help him with promises of large riches and revenge on Aladdin. Once he had Abis Mal around his finger, he decided to force his former ally Iago to work for him again and use the trust Aladdin had developed for Iago into fooling him and the Sultan away from Agrabah into a trap, while himself he took care of Genie and Abu. When the trap proved successful, he made it look like Aladdin had killed Sultan simply by placing his hat, slashed, in Aladdin's room (although the Sultan was actually still alive and captured). Then he impersonated Jasmine and ordered Aladdin to be executed. If he had turned paid more attention on [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Iago's conflicting behavior]], then maybe [[TheBadGuyWins he would've been the one who won]].
24th Dec '16 2:16:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/JohnCarter'': Matai Shang is certainly a ManipulativeBastard of epic proportions. The guy plays his cards perfectly, and even comes out on top at the end of the film (even though his plans are temporarily smashed). Really, the only reason why things don't go his way is that the protagonist (and [[HypercompetentSidekick his dog]]) are such [[BadAss massive badasses]], and he couldn't forsee everything.

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* ''Film/JohnCarter'': Matai Shang is certainly a ManipulativeBastard of epic proportions. The guy plays his cards perfectly, and even comes out on top at the end of the film (even though his plans are temporarily smashed). Really, the only reason why things don't go his way is that the protagonist (and [[HypercompetentSidekick his dog]]) are such [[BadAss massive badasses]], badasses, and he couldn't forsee everything.
22nd Dec '16 12:13:31 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/ChildrenOfParadise'': Lacenaire, the poet, playwright and murderer from the French movie classic is an outstanding example of this trope. He's proudly evil ("I'll hold my head high, until it falls into the basket"), spends the second half of the movie manipulating events even when they don't go his own way and treating the other characters in the movie as if they are figures from his plays, is charming and foppish to the point of dandyism (in the original sense of the word, he lives during the era when the term was coined), he's witty and calm even when the lesser villain, the Count of Montray, has him bodily ejected from a theater and he gets even with the count with first a CrowningMomentOfAwesome and then a [[BadAss Crowning Moment Of Badass]] that must be seen to be believed. His real life namesake and counterpart was pretty salty himself, holding all Paris spellbound during his murder trial and inspiring writers like Baudelaire and Dostoevsky, who used him as one of his models for Raskolnikov in ''Crime and Punishment.''
* ''Franchise/TheChroniclesOfRiddick'': Richard B. Riddick, the series' titular AntiHero {{Badass}}. A GeniusBruiser, he's also a skilled planner who routinely makes it appear as if he planned each step. This is especially true when he is [[spoiler:fighting the Lord Marshal and is able to think fast enough to figure out where he's going to be moving next.]]

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* ''Film/ChildrenOfParadise'': Lacenaire, the poet, playwright and murderer from the French movie classic is an outstanding example of this trope. He's proudly evil ("I'll hold my head high, until it falls into the basket"), spends the second half of the movie manipulating events even when they don't go his own way and treating the other characters in the movie as if they are figures from his plays, is charming and foppish to the point of dandyism (in the original sense of the word, he lives during the era when the term was coined), he's witty and calm even when the lesser villain, the Count of Montray, has him bodily ejected from a theater and he gets even with the count with first a CrowningMomentOfAwesome and then a [[BadAss Crowning Moment Of Badass]] Badass that must be seen to be believed. His real life namesake and counterpart was pretty salty himself, holding all Paris spellbound during his murder trial and inspiring writers like Baudelaire and Dostoevsky, who used him as one of his models for Raskolnikov in ''Crime and Punishment.''
* ''Franchise/TheChroniclesOfRiddick'': Richard B. Riddick, the series' titular AntiHero {{Badass}}.badass. A GeniusBruiser, he's also a skilled planner who routinely makes it appear as if he planned each step. This is especially true when he is [[spoiler:fighting the Lord Marshal and is able to think fast enough to figure out where he's going to be moving next.]]
1st Dec '16 10:50:29 AM Tron80
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** LexLuthor, the BigBad of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', whose magnificence is only exceeded by his bastardry. A rich boy with a plethora of [[AbusiveParents daddy issues]], he spends the whole film effortlessly manipulating the titular heroes. Why? [[FreudianExcuse Because, when he was a boy, God never saved him from Daddy's "fists and abominations]]." Enter Superman, who challenges Lex's misotheoistic worldview just by ''being''. How does he do it? [[spoiler:He plays off of Batman's paranoia, getting him to want to fight Superman, which leads to Bats stealing Luthor's kryptonite, which can kill Supes.]] Then, he [[spoiler:kidnaps Martha Kent, and threatens to kill her unless Superman kills the Bat. If Lois hadn't intervened, Batman would have used his fancy kryptonite spear to murder the shit outta Supes.]] Then, even as his plan falls apart, [[spoiler:he unleashes Doomsday, the monster that ''[[TheBadGuyWins kills Superman]]'']].

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** LexLuthor, Comicbook/LexLuthor, the BigBad of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', whose magnificence is only exceeded by his bastardry. A rich boy with a plethora of [[AbusiveParents daddy issues]], he spends the whole film effortlessly manipulating the titular heroes. Why? [[FreudianExcuse Because, when he was a boy, God never saved him from Daddy's "fists and abominations]]." Enter Superman, who challenges Lex's misotheoistic worldview just by ''being''. How does he do it? [[spoiler:He plays off of Batman's paranoia, getting him to want to fight Superman, which leads to Bats stealing Luthor's kryptonite, which can kill Supes.]] Then, he [[spoiler:kidnaps Martha Kent, and threatens to kill her unless Superman kills the Bat. If Lois Comicbook/LoisLane hadn't intervened, Batman would have used his fancy kryptonite spear to murder the shit outta Supes.]] Then, even as his plan falls apart, [[spoiler:he unleashes Doomsday, the monster that ''[[TheBadGuyWins kills Superman]]'']].
6th Nov '16 2:16:44 PM CaptainClown
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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker shows off his skills at this in ''Suicide Squad'', while he's [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge getting Harley back from Waller]]. In short, he [[spoiler:finds out about the top-secret government blacksite Harley's held at,]] captures [[spoiler:and interrogates one of the guards at Belle Reve, gets into contact with Harley, busts into a weapons laboratory]], and [[spoiler:''steals a military helicopter, while it's in use'', [[JokerImmunity survives the helicopter crashing,]] and in the end [[spoiler:he breaks into Belle Reve itself--Belle Reve, the top-secret, maximum security government prison--dressed as a SWAT in a bulletproof vest ''emblazoned with his name'', and rescues Harley.]]
29th Oct '16 1:09:49 PM CaptainClown
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* ''Film/DialMForMurder'': Tony Wendice. After discovering his wife Margot is cheating on him, he creates a complex plan to kill her while arranging a perfect alibi for himself and mentally punishing the man who cuckolded him at the same time. When Margot proves more resilient than he expected and kills the man he blackmailed into doing the deed, he only needs a few minutes to come up with a new plan to make it appear that she committed the act in cold blood. Even when his scheme is in danger of being exposed, he is quickly able to come up with a new way to turn the situation to his advantage. And finally when against all odds his whole plot is exposed, he turns out to be one of the all time great {{Graceful Loser}}s, pouring wine for everyone who had a hand in finding him out (except a cop who he notes is still on duty).

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* ''Film/DialMForMurder'': ** Comicbook/AmandaWaller is this in ''Film/SuicideSquad''. After [[spoiler:Superman's death, America no longer has a superpowerful being around that's friendly to the nation.]] Waller's solution is to take the most feared criminals in the nation, release them from prison, and force/cajole them into becoming part of the titular Squad. These criminals include the world's best marksman, the Jokers girlfriend, and a ''six-thousand year old, god-like witch.'' And when something goes wrong, not only does she perfectly control and intimidate the Squad, but also ''gets away with [[spoiler:causing Enchantress to wreck Midway City]]'', by ''[[spoiler:shooting her entire support staff, and then keeping her career intact via a shadowy deal with Bruce Wayne]]''. She's also instrumental in creating the Film/JusticeLeague

*''Film/DialMForMurder'':
Tony Wendice. After discovering his wife Margot is cheating on him, he creates a complex plan to kill her while arranging a perfect alibi for himself and mentally punishing the man who cuckolded him at the same time. When Margot proves more resilient than he expected and kills the man he blackmailed into doing the deed, he only needs a few minutes to come up with a new plan to make it appear that she committed the act in cold blood. Even when his scheme is in danger of being exposed, he is quickly able to come up with a new way to turn the situation to his advantage. And finally when against all odds his whole plot is exposed, he turns out to be one of the all time great {{Graceful Loser}}s, pouring wine for everyone who had a hand in finding him out (except a cop who he notes is still on duty).
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