History LoopholeAbuse / VideoGames

11th Oct '17 9:17:41 AM Viira
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* Humans in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' under the Treaty of Farixen are only allowed to build one dreadnought per every five the Turians have. Instead they began [[TheBattlestar building carriers]] which were not subject to any restrictions. This was mostly because Humans were the ones to introduce the concept of Carriers to the Galaxy ''in the first place.''

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Humans in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' under the Treaty of Farixen are only allowed to build one dreadnought per every five the Turians have. Instead they began [[TheBattlestar building carriers]] which were not subject to any restrictions. This was mostly because Humans were the ones to introduce the concept of Carriers to the Galaxy ''in the first place.''



** In ''Mass Effect 2'', the krogan RiteOfPassage allows the young krogan undertaking it to bring a "krantt", a small group of one or two established warriors. When Grunt undergoes the trial, Shepard (and potentially another party member) come along as his krantt because nobody said that the warriors had to be human. The traditionalists are pissed, but the clan chieftain and the shaman administering the test allow it (especially if said chieftain is [[spoiler: Wrex]]).

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** In ''Mass Effect 2'', the krogan RiteOfPassage allows the young krogan undertaking it to bring a "krantt", a small group of one or two established warriors. When Grunt undergoes the trial, Shepard (and potentially and another party member) member come along as his krantt krantt, because nobody said that the warriors had have to be human.krogan. The traditionalists are pissed, but the clan chieftain and the shaman administering the test allow it (especially if said chieftain is [[spoiler: Wrex]]).
22nd Sep '17 7:40:57 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', [[spoiler:the only way for [[BigBad the fell dragon Grima]] to truly and permanently die is by his own hand. The mortal vessel used as a sacrifice to bring Grima into this world was [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]]. Obviously, Grima's not interested in offing himself, but since Grima travelled to a time before the sacrifice was made, [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]] could kill Grima, as they are the same person. There is a price for abusing this loophole, though: since their souls are tied to one another, Grima's death would also mean the Avatar's death...]]

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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', [[spoiler:the only way for [[BigBad the fell dragon Grima]] to truly and permanently die is by his own hand. The mortal vessel used as a sacrifice to bring Grima into this world was [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]]. Obviously, Grima's not interested in offing himself, but since Grima travelled to a time before the sacrifice was made, [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]] could kill Grima, as they are the same person. There is a price for abusing this loophole, though: since their souls are tied to one another, Grima's death would also mean the Avatar's death... but if the choice is taken, he or she ends up ''temporarily'' erased, but ultimately brings him/herself back.]]
14th Sep '17 3:05:52 PM Jgamer
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** In ''Mass Effect 2'', the krogan RiteOfPassage allows the young krogan undertaking it to bring a "krantt", a small group of one or two established warriors. When Grunt undergoes the trial, Shepard (and potentially another party member) come along as his krantt because nobody said that the warriors had to be human. The traditionalists are pissed, but the clan chieftain and the shaman administering the test allow it (especially if said chieftain is [[spoiler: Wrex]]).
5th Sep '17 11:43:57 AM Psyclone
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** To start with, this rule is from the school, not Monokuma's game: to get into Hope's Peak Academy, you need to be a high school student with an exceptional talent. Ain't no rule that the talent in question has to be academic or even productive, meaning that the class includes a talented "gamer", "yakuza" and "hall monitor". Ain't no rule that you have to be of high school ''age'' either, thus said class also include a 20 year old fortune teller who was held back several grades.

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** To start with, this rule is from the school, not Monokuma's game: to get into Hope's Peak Academy, you need to be a high school student with an exceptional talent. Ain't no rule that the talent in question has to be academic or even productive, meaning that the class includes a talented "gamer", "yakuza" and "hall monitor". Ain't no rule that you have to be of high school ''age'' either, thus said class also include includes a 20 year old fortune teller who was held back several grades.
2nd Sep '17 10:35:18 AM GigaHand
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** To get into Hope's Peak Academy, you need to be a high school student with an exceptional talent. Ain't no rule that the talent in question has to be academic or even productive, meaning that the class includes a talented "gamer", "yakuza" and "hall monitor". Ain't no rule that you have to be of high school ''age'' either, thus said class also include a 20 year old fortune teller who was held back several grades.

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** To start with, this rule is from the school, not Monokuma's game: to get into Hope's Peak Academy, you need to be a high school student with an exceptional talent. Ain't no rule that the talent in question has to be academic or even productive, meaning that the class includes a talented "gamer", "yakuza" and "hall monitor". Ain't no rule that you have to be of high school ''age'' either, thus said class also include a 20 year old fortune teller who was held back several grades.



** Any student who kills another and then is discovered at the trial faces execution, but [[spoiler:ain't no rule that they actually have to ''die''.]] Towards the end of the game, [[spoiler:Alter Ego and Kyoko Kirigiri manage to disrupt Naegi's execution and bring him back into the school]], causing [[spoiler:Monobear, who can't break the rules to execute Naegi again, to fly into a rage and allow ''himself'' to be tried, which sets up the ending of the game.]]

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** Any student who kills another and then is discovered at the trial faces execution, but [[spoiler:ain't no rule that they actually have to ''die''.]] Towards the end of the game, [[spoiler:Alter Ego and Kyoko Kirigiri manage to disrupt Naegi's execution and bring him back into the school]], causing [[spoiler:Monobear, who can't break the rules to execute Naegi again, to fly into a rage and allow ''himself'' to be tried, a "final trial", which sets up the ending of the game.]]



** In the second game, one rule is that Monokuma cannot kill a student unless they break a rule. What he ''can'' do is [[spoiler:lock them in an area without food and wait for them to starve, unless they fulfill the escape clause of any student dying (and the last challenge of the Final Dead Room requires the participant to risk their life in a game of RussianRoulette). Technically it's the ''students''' fault if they starve.]]
*** Speaking of the second game, the entire premise of that game can revolve around this. [[spoiler: Once Monokuma took the role as the teacher for the Neo World Program, Monokuma needed to find loopholes in order for his plan into reviving Junko Enoshima to work as the role of the teacher can not kill a student unless they break the rules. Because of that, he ended up creating the killing school trip as if a student committed murder, they would have broke the rule against violence at the island thus Monokuma has the right to execute the killer if they kill somebody.]]
*** Also from the second game, [[spoiler: Nagito ended up threatening to blow-up the entire island killing everybody inside it (which is actually a bluff, but Hajime doesn't know that yet). Hajime attempts to convince Monokuma to stop him as he would of broke the rule in which you can't kill more than two people. However, that rule does not take place until ''after'' it was broken thus Monokuma refuses to stop him.]]

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** There is a rule that says a participant may not kill more than two people. More than once has someone tried to bypass this using the exact same loophole: specifically, ''participants'' may not kill more than two people, but ''Monokuma'' can, and the person in question deliberately sets things up so that the students accuse the wrong person at the class trial, getting ''everyone'' but the murderer killed, thus killing more than two people. Yes, this means the one who tries to pull this dies too, but circumstances tend to mean they don't care.
** In the second game, one rule is that Monokuma cannot kill a student unless they break a rule. What he ''can'' do is [[spoiler:lock them in an area without food and wait for them to starve, unless they fulfill the escape clause of any student dying (and the last challenge of the Final Dead Room requires the participant to risk their life in a game of RussianRoulette).dying. Technically it's the ''students''' fault if they starve.]]
*** ** Speaking of the second game, the entire premise of that game can revolve around this. [[spoiler: Once Monokuma took the role as the teacher for the Neo World Program, Monokuma needed to find loopholes in order for his plan into reviving Junko Enoshima to work as the role of the teacher can not kill a student unless they break the rules. Because of that, he ended up creating the killing school trip as if a student committed murder, they would have broke the rule against violence at the island thus Monokuma has the right to execute the killer if they kill somebody.]]
*** ** Also from the second game, [[spoiler: Nagito ended up threatening to blow-up the entire island killing everybody inside it (which is actually a bluff, but Hajime doesn't know that yet). Hajime attempts to convince Monokuma to stop him as he would of broke the rule in which you can't kill more than two people. However, that rule does not take place until ''after'' it was broken thus Monokuma refuses to stop him.]]
17th Aug '17 12:42:29 AM Xlsfd
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** The students are forbidden from sleeping anywhere but the dorm rooms. However, the rule does not specify that students have to sleep in their assigned room, nor are they forbidden from sharing a room with another student. Also, it only covers deliberately sleeping, being knocked unconscious is not counted as a violation of the rule.
29th Jul '17 8:45:53 PM MummyGaGa
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*** Speaking of the second game, the entire premise of that game can revolve around this. [[spoiler: Once Monokuma took the role as the teacher for the Neo World Program, Monokuma needed to find loopholes in order for his plan into reviving Junko Enoshima to work as the role of the teacher can not kill a student unless they break the rules. Because of that, he ended up creating the killing school trip as if a student committed murder, they would of broke the rule against violence at the island thus Monokuma has the right to execute the killer if they kill somebody.]]
*** Also from the second game, [[spoiler: Nagito ended up threatening to blow-up the entire island killing everybody inside it(which is actually a bluff, but Hajime doesn't know that yet). Hajime attempts to convince Monokuma to stop him as he would of broke the rule in which you can't kill more than two people. However, that rule does not take place until ''after'' it was broken thus Monokuma refuses to stop him.]]

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*** Speaking of the second game, the entire premise of that game can revolve around this. [[spoiler: Once Monokuma took the role as the teacher for the Neo World Program, Monokuma needed to find loopholes in order for his plan into reviving Junko Enoshima to work as the role of the teacher can not kill a student unless they break the rules. Because of that, he ended up creating the killing school trip as if a student committed murder, they would of have broke the rule against violence at the island thus Monokuma has the right to execute the killer if they kill somebody.]]
*** Also from the second game, [[spoiler: Nagito ended up threatening to blow-up the entire island killing everybody inside it(which it (which is actually a bluff, but Hajime doesn't know that yet). Hajime attempts to convince Monokuma to stop him as he would of broke the rule in which you can't kill more than two people. However, that rule does not take place until ''after'' it was broken thus Monokuma refuses to stop him.]]
15th Jul '17 8:04:12 AM Tuuc
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* ''VideoGame/InTheGroove 2''[='=]s r21 update allows players to play their own songs, but the song must not be tagged as longer than 2 minutes. [[ExactWords Emphasis on "tagged"]]; the game reads the sound file's metadata to check for length, but it's possible to tinker with the metadata so that the game thinks a 5-minute song is actually only 1:30 long. The r23 update closes this loophole up by just cutting off songs after 2 minutes and 15 seconds.

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* ''VideoGame/InTheGroove 2''[='=]s r21 update allows players to play their own songs, but the song must not be tagged as longer than 2 minutes. [[ExactWords Emphasis on "tagged"]]; the game reads the sound file's metadata to check for length, but it's possible to tinker with the metadata so that the game thinks a 5-minute song is actually only 1:30 1:45 long. The r23 update closes this loophole up by just cutting off songs after 2 minutes and 15 seconds. The popular Simply Love theme for the freeware game ''VideoGame/{{Stepmania}}'' shows the most popular fake song length, 1:45, as "not 1:45".
9th Jul '17 10:48:57 AM nombretomado
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* Similar to Germany before WorldWarTwo (see RealLife example), USSR in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2'' manages to build up a large military partly through this trope. One of the restrictions is the limitation on military aircraft. So, the Soviets build thousands of armored zeppeling to act as bombers. Ain't No Rule about mind-controlling giant squids to sink Allied ships, right? Having powerful psychics under your command means you can have every Allied inspector come back saying exactly what you want him to say, even if he just saw a column of Apocalypse tanks roll by.

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* Similar to Germany before WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (see RealLife example), USSR in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2'' manages to build up a large military partly through this trope. One of the restrictions is the limitation on military aircraft. So, the Soviets build thousands of armored zeppeling to act as bombers. Ain't No Rule about mind-controlling giant squids to sink Allied ships, right? Having powerful psychics under your command means you can have every Allied inspector come back saying exactly what you want him to say, even if he just saw a column of Apocalypse tanks roll by.
12th May '17 7:54:10 AM BeerBaron
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** In the backstory, the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] were known to bend the "Earthbones" (essentially the laws of nature and physics) with their creations, allowing them to [[RagnarokProofing last for millennia]].

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** In the backstory, the [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]] were known to bend the "Earthbones" "Earth Bones" (essentially the laws of nature and physics) with their creations, allowing them to [[RagnarokProofing last for millennia]].millennia]]. Notably, the core of the Dwemer's magical technology involved machines and tools designed to manipulate "tonal architecture" or the sounds and vibrations created by the "Earth Bones." In effect, they completely bypassed "normal" magic (which involves using the magicka that flows into the world through the sun and the stars) and instead [[RealityWarper hijacked the fundamental laws of the world and used them for their own ends]].
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