History Literature / Winnetou

12th Feb '17 2:02:42 PM Wyldchyld
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* FetishFuel: Have you read any of the many, ''many'' pages that lavishly, lovingly describe Winnetou lately? They usually start with his dainty, pearl-embroidered-moccasined feet and end up drowning in his infinite, velvety dark eyes. And that's not mentioning the dark, smooth RapunzelHair...
27th Jan '17 11:24:40 AM Xtifr
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'''''Winnetou''''' is one of the best known novels written by the German author Creator/KarlMay. His heroes Old Shatterhand and Winnetou are very famous literary characters in Europe and quintessential examples of IdealHero and HeterosexualLifePartners. Although May only travelled to America himself after his novels became successful, the novels are famed for their accuracy in geographic terms. All trips and journeys of the main character can be followed in an atlas. Accuracy of many other things is not to be taken for granted.

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'''''Winnetou''''' ''Winnetou'' is one of the best known novels written by the German author Creator/KarlMay. His heroes Old Shatterhand and Winnetou are very famous literary characters in Europe and quintessential examples of IdealHero and HeterosexualLifePartners. Although May only travelled to America himself after his novels became successful, the novels are famed for their accuracy in geographic terms. All trips and journeys of the main character can be followed in an atlas. Accuracy of many other things is not to be taken for granted.
20th Jan '17 12:07:14 PM marmota-b
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Often the case even between old friends. (E.g., we never learn what Hobble Frank's real name is, even though he moved back to Germany and clearly stayed in touch with Old Shatterhand there.)

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Often the case even between old friends. (E.g., we never learn what Hobble Frank's real name is, even though he moved back to Germany and clearly stayed in touch with Old Shatterhand there.)
15th Jan '17 10:19:15 AM Jhonny
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Several of the novels have film adaptations made in Germany in the sixties. ''Film/TheTreasureOfSilverLake'' was the first film of the series; it proved successful enough and spanned a film series. The movies were parodied in ''Film/DerSchuhDesManitu''.

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Several of the novels have film adaptations made in Germany in the sixties. ''Film/TheTreasureOfSilverLake'' was the first film of the series; it proved successful enough and spanned spawned a film series. The movies were parodied in ''Film/DerSchuhDesManitu''.
15th Jan '17 7:37:17 AM marmota-b
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Several of the novels have film adaptations made in Germany in the sixties. ''Film/TheTreasureOfSilverLake'' was the first film of the series; it proved successful enough and span a film series. The movies were parodied in ''Film/DerSchuhDesManitu''.

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Several of the novels have film adaptations made in Germany in the sixties. ''Film/TheTreasureOfSilverLake'' was the first film of the series; it proved successful enough and span spanned a film series. The movies were parodied in ''Film/DerSchuhDesManitu''.



%%* ActionMom: Tahua.

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%%* * ActionMom: Tahua.Tahua, who could beat a chief in a duel, among many other accomplishments.



* AdaptationalComicRelief[=/=]AdaptationalWimp: Old Wabble in the novels ''Old Surehand I'' and ''III'' a badass frontiersman and Indian fighter; starting out as a companion to Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, he becomes their rival and and then an outright villain who tries to kill them, making him one of May's most interesting characters. In the films ''Old Surehand'' and ''Der Ölprinz'' he is much younger and merely Old Surehand's [[BumblingSidekick clumsy comical sidekick]].

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* AdaptationalComicRelief[=/=]AdaptationalWimp: Old Wabble in the novels ''Old Surehand I'' and ''III'' is a badass frontiersman and Indian fighter; starting out as a companion to Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, he becomes their rival and and then an outright villain who tries to kill them, making him one of May's most interesting characters. In the films ''Old Surehand'' and ''Der Ölprinz'' he is much younger and merely Old Surehand's [[BumblingSidekick clumsy comical sidekick]].



%%* AlasPoorVillain: Old Wabble.
%%* TheAlcoholic: Rattler.

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%%* * AlasPoorVillain: Old Wabble.
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Wabble; his final fate is so horrific that you cannot help but share Old Shatterhand's feelings on it, and be relieved at his last-moment HeelFaceTurn.
*
TheAlcoholic: Rattler.Rattler isn't alone among the surveyors in his propensity to drink, but in his case, his irresponsible drunken behaviour leads to truly tragic consequences for other characters (and ultimately, him).



* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Charlie's colleagues from the rail-road building team. Mostly because he is young, hard-working, a non-drinker, and German.

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* AllOfTheOtherReindeer: Charlie's colleagues from the rail-road building team. Mostly because he is young, hard-working, a non-drinker, non-drinker[[note]]actually not above drinking beer, but emphatically above drinking himself into a stupor[[/note]], and German.



* AngerBornOfWorry: Both Mister Henry and Sam Hawkens get angry over Old Shatterhand (who they both see as a surogate son) putting himself into serious danger in what they see as a reckless manner.

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* AngerBornOfWorry: Both Mister Henry and Sam Hawkens get angry over Old Shatterhand (who they both see as a surogate surrogate son) putting himself into serious danger in what they see as a reckless manner.



* AuthorityInNameOnly: Mayors, sherrifs, policemen, military officers.

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* AuthorityInNameOnly: Mayors, sherrifs, sheriffs, policemen, military officers.



** Dick Hammerdull and Pitt Holbers in "Kapitän Kaiman/Der Corsar" (an earlier story with somewhat tentative connection to the rest of the canon; it does feature Winnetou, but not Old Shatterhand).



** Tahua, her BadassPreacher brother I-Khvesti-Pa,and her two famous sons.

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** Tahua, her BadassPreacher brother I-Khvesti-Pa,and I-Khvesti-Pa, and her two famous sons.



** Judging by Charlie's observation, when Ntscho-tschi is dressed exactly as Winnetou, it would be easy for the less observant ye to mistake her for Winnetou's younger brother. However, since Winnetou hiself is borderline androgynous...
* BigBrotherMentor: Winnetou to Old Shatterhand, at least at first. They both learn from the other one various skills, but Winnetou is in fact a couple of years older than Charlie.

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** Judging by Charlie's observation, when Ntscho-tschi Nscho-tschi is dressed exactly as Winnetou, it would be easy for the less observant ye to mistake her for Winnetou's younger brother. However, since Winnetou hiself himself is borderline androgynous...
* BigBrotherMentor: Winnetou to Old Shatterhand, at least at first. They both learn various skills from the other one various skills, other, but Winnetou is in fact a couple of years older than Charlie.



* BlaseBoast

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* BluffTheEavesdropper

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* BraggartBoss

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* ChineseLaborer
* ChocolateOfRomance: Hilariously subverted at the beginning of "Satan and Iscariot", involving Old Shatterhand incognito, a Mexican seniorita, and a beverage that is supposed to be hot (liquid) chocolate. He ends up refusing both the drink and (indirectly) the girl.

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* ChineseLaborer
ChineseLaborer: In the railroad camp in "Der schwarze Mustang".
* ChocolateOfRomance: Hilariously subverted at the beginning of "Satan and Iscariot", involving Old Shatterhand incognito, a Mexican seniorita, Señorita, and a beverage that is supposed to be hot (liquid) chocolate. He ends up refusing both the drink and (indirectly) the girl.



%%* ConvertingForLove: Winnetou, in a way.



* CostumeCopycat

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* DisneyVillainDeath: Averted with "the General", who does fall off a cliff, and a huge boulder falls on top of him, but who survives long enough to endure a horrible agony while the heroes are pretty much standing around helplessly, because they can not lift the rocks.

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* DisneyVillainDeath: Averted with "the General", who does fall off a cliff, and a huge boulder falls on top of him, but who survives long enough to endure a horrible agony while the heroes are pretty much standing around helplessly, because they can not cannot lift the rocks.rock.



* DudeLooksLikeALady: Borderline case with Winnetou.

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* DudeLooksLikeALady: "Aunt" Droll. Borderline case with Winnetou.



* EasilyCondemned
* EasilyForgiven

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* EnhancedInterrogationTechniques

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** He also gets one in the scope of one book for his first appearance in ''Der Schatz im Silbersee'' when he treats a wounded SnakeOilSalesman while fully aware the man's lying to him and is less benign than he is trying to make himself out to be. Because Winnetou can read the tracks and he is the ''good'' guy.



* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Old Shatterhand definitely used to think so -- or at least he thought they ''should'' be, but first Ntscho-tschi tears him a new one, and by the time he comes face to face with Judith Silberstein, he is under no such illusions.

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* FemalesAreMoreInnocent: Old Shatterhand definitely used to think so -- or at least he thought they ''should'' be, but first Ntscho-tschi Nscho-tschi tears him a new one, and by the time he comes face to face with Judith Silberstein, he is under no such illusions.



* FlatEarthAtheist: Old Wabble

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** Also from "Winnetou IV", Sacha Schneider's RealLife painting of Winnetou flying/ascending to Heavens is heavily featured as a plot turning point. (It often serves as a front cover for the novel as well.)
* FlowerMotifs: The Passiflora (Passion-flower) appears a lot in the Wild West stories, but the most significant instance happens in "Winnetou IV", where Old Shatterhand finds asecluded cave within Tattelah-Satah's "stone castle", overflowing with white and red Passiflora, planted there by Winnetou's own hand decades ago. The flowers form a giant white cross on a red background. The symbol of the cross, of course, was wide-spread well before Chrstianity was even a thing, and Native American tribes used it too, but Winnetou specifically chose it because it reminded him of Old Shatterhand, and he hoped to better understand his brother's faith "as the flowers grow". In Europe, the Passiflora is susually associated with "passion" (as in Christ-level of pain and suffering), "endurance" (again with the suffering, but also ''surviving'' it), the Cross, the Holy Grail, but also "strong emotion, desire" and "divine love". All these are strongly related to Winnetou, both as Charlie's dearest friend and as a demigod-like figure to his people.

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** Also from "Winnetou IV", Sacha Sascha Schneider's RealLife painting of Winnetou flying/ascending to Heavens is heavily featured as a plot turning point. (It often serves as a front cover for the novel as well.)
* FlowerMotifs: The Passiflora (Passion-flower) appears a lot in the Wild West stories, but the most significant instance happens in "Winnetou IV", where Old Shatterhand finds asecluded a secluded cave within Tattelah-Satah's "stone castle", overflowing with white and red Passiflora, planted there by Winnetou's own hand decades ago. The flowers form a giant white cross on a red background. The symbol of the cross, of course, was wide-spread well before Chrstianity was even a thing, and Native American tribes used it too, but Winnetou specifically chose it because it reminded him of Old Shatterhand, and he hoped to better understand his brother's faith "as the flowers grow". In Europe, the Passiflora is susually associated with "passion" (as in Christ-level of pain and suffering), "endurance" (again with the suffering, but also ''surviving'' it), the Cross, the Holy Grail, but also "strong emotion, desire" and "divine love". All these are strongly related to Winnetou, both as Charlie's dearest friend and as a demigod-like figure to his people.



** The oak (generally associated with Germany) makes an appearance as acorns are planted around Klekih-Petra's grave.

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** The oak (generally associated with Germany) makes an appearance as acorns are planted around Klekih-Petra's grave.the grave of Klekih-Petra (who was German).



* ForHappiness

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* FunctionalAddict; Old Death.

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* FunctionalAddict; FunctionalAddict: Old Death.



* GentlemanAdventurer: Lord Castlepool and Lord David Lindsay.

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* GentlemanAdventurer: Lord Castlepool and Lord Sir David Lindsay.



* GoldAndWhiteAreDivine
* GoodFeelsGood

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* GoodFeelsGoodGoodFeelsGood: Basically what the whole series runs on: our heroes help others for the sake of it and make many loyal friends along the way.



** Old Shatterhand has several (that are discussed in-story): the wound through the throat/tongue that Winnetou gave him in the first novel. It's the sort of scar that should make him instantly recognizable by anyone who knows the story (lots of people), but since it's in such a hard to spot place (practically under his jaw) and he often sports a beard, you'd have to already suspect who you're talking to in order to even think to check for it. There is apparently also a small one on his arm from the blood-brother ritual with Winnetou, but it only shows up once, in one of the latter stories, and Winnetou ''still'' doesn't seem to have one. (Also, the account of the ritual specifically mentions that the blood-letting came from an insignificant, superficial prick of the knife, that by all rights ''shouldn't'' leave any sort of scar, especially not one recognizable after so many years). A more classic example appears when Old Shatterhand meets Sans-Ear and has to prove who he is. Sans-Ear knew the story of Charklie's encounter with a particularly angry grizzly bear who had surprised him in his sleep and had wounded him pretty badly before getting killed. Charlie promptly does a half-striptease (he has to go through three layers of nice clothing to get to skin) to provide the evidence: a scar that goes pretty much diagonally across his torso, from shoulder to the opposite hip. (He is also quick to point out that Winnetou was the one responsible for neatly putting back together what appears to have been a pretty bloody mess.) He also takes a bullet to the thigh in "Old Surehand" which presumably ended up in a new scar, but we only see the wound while it's still new.
* GoodSmokingEvilSmoking

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** Old Shatterhand has several (that are discussed in-story): the wound through the throat/tongue that Winnetou gave him in the first novel. It's the sort of scar that should make him instantly recognizable by anyone who knows the story (lots of people), but since it's in such a hard to spot place (practically under his jaw) and he often sports a beard, you'd have to already suspect who you're talking to in order to even think to check for it. There is apparently also a small one on his arm from the blood-brother ritual with Winnetou, but it only shows up once, in one of the latter stories, and Winnetou ''still'' doesn't seem to have one. (Also, the account of the ritual specifically mentions that the blood-letting came from an insignificant, superficial prick of the knife, that by all rights ''shouldn't'' leave any sort of scar, especially not one recognizable after so many years). A more classic example appears when Old Shatterhand meets Sans-Ear and has to prove who he is. Sans-Ear knew the story of Charklie's Charlie's encounter with a particularly angry grizzly bear who had surprised him in his sleep and had wounded him pretty badly before getting killed. Charlie promptly does a half-striptease (he has to go through three layers of nice clothing to get to skin) to provide the evidence: a scar that goes pretty much diagonally across his torso, from shoulder to the opposite hip. (He is also quick to point out that Winnetou was the one responsible for neatly putting back together what appears to have been a pretty bloody mess.) He also takes a bullet to the thigh in "Old Surehand" which presumably ended up in a new scar, but we only see the wound while it's still new.
* %%* GoodSmokingEvilSmoking



* GoThroughMe
* GracefulInTheirElement

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* %%* GracefulInTheirElement



* GroinAttack

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* HeelFaithTurn

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* HeelFaithTurnHeelFaithTurn: Several characters, not very suprisingly under Charlie's influence.



* HorsebackHeroism: Surprisingly averted, considering how important the heroes' horses are to the story.

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* HorsebackHeroism: Surprisingly averted, considering how important the heroes' horses are to the story. Old Shatterhand and Winnetou usually ''plan'' their BigDamnHeroes moments thoroughly and thus tend towards more subtlety.



* HumbleGoal

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* HunterTrapper: What a lot Westmen are. However, there are differences between doing this long-term for money (Old Firehand, The Bear-Hunter), combining this with scouting (Sam Hawkens) or simply catching food for yourself (Old Shatterhand, who is a hunter, but not a trapper -- though he occasionally claims he is).

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* HunterTrapper: What a lot Westmen are. However, there are differences between doing this long-term for money (Old Firehand, The Bear-Hunter), combining this with scouting (Sam Hawkens) or simply catching food for yourself (Old Shatterhand, who is a hunter, but not a whose alleged trapper -- though he occasionally claims he is).activities happen off-page).



* IndianMaiden: Ntscho-tschi (Apache). Ribanna (Assiniboins). Kaho-o-oto (Kiowa). Tahua and Tocbela (Moqui). Ashta, both the original and her niece (Sioux).

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* IndianMaiden: Ntscho-tschi Nscho-tschi (Apache). Ribanna (Assiniboins). Kaho-o-oto (Kiowa). Tahua and Tocbela (Moqui). Ashta, both the original and her niece (Sioux).



* TheIngenue: Martha Vogel. Ingdscha. Subverted with Ntscho-tschi, who is shown to be very mature in her thinking, and knowing a lot about the world despite her relative young age and limited personal experience.

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* TheIngenue: Martha Vogel. Ingdscha. Subverted with Ntscho-tschi, Nscho-tschi, who is shown to be very mature in her thinking, and knowing a lot about the world despite her relative young age and limited personal experience.



* InsultFriendlyFire

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* JusticeWillPrevail

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* JusticeWillPrevailJusticeWillPrevail: In every book, although there are some bittersweet examples.



* LikeBrotherAndSister: Old Shatterhand and Ntscho-tschi, much to her chagrin. In fact, this seems to be Old Shatterhand's approach to most young, attractive women he meets. Their own feelings on the matter vary.
* LiteralAssKicking

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* LikeBrotherAndSister: Old Shatterhand and Ntscho-tschi, Nscho-tschi, much to her chagrin. In fact, this seems to be Old Shatterhand's approach to most young, attractive women he meets. Their own feelings on the matter vary.
* %%* LiteralAssKicking



* TheLoad

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* TheLoadTheLoad: Carpio. Bob constantly oscillates between this and TookALevelInBadass.



* TheLostLenore: Ribanna for Winnetou and Old Firehand. Ntscho-tschi is a much milder case for Old Shatterhand -- one that surprisingly comes up more often as he gets older, rather than immediately after her death.

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* TheLostLenore: Ribanna for Winnetou and Old Firehand. Ntscho-tschi Nscho-tschi is a much milder case for Old Shatterhand -- one that surprisingly comes up more often as he gets older, rather than immediately after her death.



* MadeOfIron: Both Winnetou and Old Shatterhand, but also Old Firehand and Old Surehand, Will Parker and a few others. Subverted with Old Wabble, who likes to think he is this, but is proved wrong by reality.

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* MadeOfIron: Both Winnetou and Old Shatterhand, but also Old Firehand and Old Surehand, Will Parker and a few others. Subverted with Old Wabble, who likes to think he is this, but is proved proven wrong by reality.



* ManInWhite

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* MilesGloriousus
* MysteriousAnimalSenses

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* %%* MysteriousAnimalSenses



** Old Firehand (German) and Ribana (Assiniboin) have a son (Harry) and daughter (killed while she was still a baby). Harry is very bright and talented, despite his young age (somewhere around 16-18 years-old). Old Shatterhand is quite taken with him. (Notably, an earlier version of the story featured a girl (Ellen) instead of Harry. In that story, she was just as capable as a warrior -- justified by her being Winnetou's niece, and Old Shatterhand ends up ''marrying'' her.)

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** Old Firehand (German) and Ribana Ribanna (Assiniboin) have a son (Harry) and daughter (killed while she was still a baby). Harry is very bright and talented, despite his young age (somewhere around 16-18 years-old). Old Shatterhand is quite taken with him. (Notably, an earlier version of the story featured a girl (Ellen) instead of Harry. In that story, she was just as capable as a warrior -- justified by her being Winnetou's niece, and Old Shatterhand ends up ''marrying'' her.)



*** It's 100% true, we have about 30 novels to back it up.



* MoralGuardians
* MountedCombat: Extremely rarely used, and then mostly on-on-one. And they never ''stay'' mounted for long. Horses are used for speedy chases, or for hunting. Realistically, trying to shoot someone while running at full horse-speed it's a bit on the difficult side. Even Old Shatterhand has to stop and aim first.

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* MountedCombat: Extremely rarely used, and then mostly on-on-one.one-on-one. And they never ''stay'' mounted for long. Horses are used for speedy chases, or for hunting. Realistically, trying to shoot someone while running at full horse-speed it's a bit on the difficult side. Even Old Shatterhand has to stop and aim first.



* TheOathBreaker

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* ObliviousToLove: Old Shatterhand to Ntscho-tschi, Martha Vogel, Ingdscha... (Though he ''does'' catch up eventually.)

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* ObliviousToLove: Old Shatterhand to Ntscho-tschi, Nscho-tschi, Martha Vogel, Ingdscha... (Though he ''does'' catch up eventually.)



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Often the case even between old friends.

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Often the case even between old friends. (E.g., we never learn what Hobble Frank's real name is, even though he moved back to Germany and clearly stayed in touch with Old Shatterhand there.)



* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions

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* PersonalEffectsReveal: Charlie going through Winnetou's rooms (from a secret location different from his native pueblo) in "Winnetou's Heirs".

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* PersonalEffectsReveal: Charlie going through Winnetou's rooms (from (in a secret location different from his native pueblo) in "Winnetou's Heirs".



* PoliceAreUseless: Most of the times, sadly, though Charlie does try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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* PoliceAreUseless: Most of the times, time, sadly, though Charlie does try to give them the benefit of the doubt. doubt.
** Averted with Treskow in ''Old Surehand''; he is (naturally) nowhere near as capable as our main heroes, but very diligent in his duties, pursuing a criminal all the way to the Rockies (from Missouri) with the protagonist group. He also shows knowledge of various relevant old criminal cases.



* ThePowerOfLove: See above, only with a small twist on the "friendship" part. A ''very'' small twist, mind you. Practically inexistant.

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* ThePowerOfLove: See above, only with a small twist on the "friendship" part. A ''very'' small twist, mind you. Practically inexistant.nonexistant.



* PreMortemOneLiner
* PrepareToDie

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* %%* PrepareToDie



8 PrideBeforeAFall

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* PublicExecution

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* ReadingTheEnemySMail

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* RightlySelfRighteous

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* RightlySelfRighteousRightlySelfRighteous: Old Shatterhand can come across as this. A lot.



* SettingAsACharacter

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* ShroudedInMyth: Kolma-Puschi, the Native warrior who belongs to no tribe and endlrssly wanders the mountains and the plains. He is so mysterious, most people believe he is a spirit.

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* ShroudedInMyth: Kolma-Puschi, the Native warrior who belongs to no tribe and endlrssly endlessly wanders the mountains and the plains. He is so mysterious, most people believe he is a spirit.



* SilkHidingSteel: Ntscho-tschi. Martha Vogel.

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* SilkHidingSteel: Ntscho-tschi.Nscho-tschi. Martha Vogel.



* SpitefulSpit
* StarCrossedLovers: Charlie and Ntscho-tschi, Charlie and Martha, Charlie and Kaho-oto... though these were mostly one-sided on the girls' side, even with Martha.

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* SpitefulSpit
SpitefulSpit: Delivered by several villains.
* StarCrossedLovers: Charlie and Ntscho-tschi, Nscho-tschi, Charlie and Martha, Charlie and Kaho-oto... though these were mostly one-sided on the girls' side, even with Martha.



* StealingTheCredit: Let's see: first, Charlie's lazy colleagues let him do almost all the work without giving him any credit for it and denigrating him in the process; then Rattler claims ''he'' killed the grizzly bear instead of the "greenhorn", and tries to pin the blame of one of the men getting killed by the bear on Charlie; in the later novel "Holy Night!" the Preacher steals (through a very complicated chain of events) one of Charlie's childhood poems from Germany and publishes it for his own profit; and there is at least one instance where someone else claims to be Old Shatterhand, but that incident happens off-page, and is quickly solved by the real Old Shatterhand, via unbeatable arguments. In his own words, "my fist to his head."

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* StealingTheCredit: Let's see: first, see:
** First,
Charlie's lazy colleagues let him do almost all the work without giving him any credit for it and denigrating him in the process; then process. And then, after having finished all the work after his co-workers' deaths, the railroad company pays him his previously agreed wage and not a cent more (it enrages Sam Hawkens more than it does Charlie who, by that point, has achieved a stoic disregard towards money).
** Then
Rattler claims ''he'' killed the grizzly bear instead of the "greenhorn", and tries to pin the blame of one of the men getting killed by the bear on Charlie; in Charlie.
** In
the later novel "Holy Night!" Night!", the Preacher steals (through a very complicated chain of events) one of Charlie's childhood poems from Germany and publishes it for his own profit; profit (HidingBehindReligion and fabricating a suitably "moving" story for the poem's origin, which is what particularly gets on Charlie's nerves.)
** And
there is at least one instance where someone else claims to be Old Shatterhand, but that incident happens off-page, and is quickly solved by the real Old Shatterhand, via unbeatable arguments. In his own words, "my fist to his head."



* TapOnTheHead

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** Old Wabble's gang of hired outlaws receive a similar punishment earlier for trying to kill the heroes(though it's carried out using thin young shoot branches instead of whips, the principle is the same).

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** Old Wabble's gang of hired outlaws receive a similar punishment earlier for trying to kill the heroes(though heroes (though it's carried out using thin young shoot branches instead of whips, the principle is the same).



* TeethClenchedTeamwork

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* ThreatBackfire

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* TontoTalk: Mostly subverted. There are some stereotypical ''words'', such as "iron horse", "fire water" and "hough", but otherwise most Native Americans speak English well-enough, or at least they speak the ''lingua franca'' of the Wild West (which is described as a mix of English, Spanish and various Indian dialects). Naturally, some of them also know the languages of neighboring tribes. Most Indians are noted as skilled orators (especially tribes' chiefs or certain "medicine men"). And then there's Winnetou, who is usually such a silent type, but turns out to be the most skilled speaker of ''all'' men, red or white or whatever color you may please. Old Shatterhand (who is no slouch in the talking department himself) is always awestruck whenever he gets to hear Winnetou speak for longer than 5 minutes. His descriptions of Winnetou's voice, vocabulary or rhetorical style can go a little overboard on occasion.
* TooCleverByHalf
* ToThePain

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* TontoTalk: Mostly subverted. There are some stereotypical ''words'', such as "iron horse", "fire water" and "hough", "howgh", but otherwise most Native Americans speak English well-enough, or at least they speak the ''lingua franca'' of the Wild West (which is described as a mix of English, Spanish and various Indian dialects). Naturally, some of them also know the languages of neighboring tribes. Most Indians are noted as skilled orators (especially tribes' chiefs or certain "medicine men"). And then there's Winnetou, who is usually such a silent type, but turns out to be the most skilled speaker of ''all'' men, red or white or whatever color you may please. Old Shatterhand (who is no slouch in the talking department himself) is always awestruck whenever he gets to hear Winnetou speak for longer than 5 minutes. His descriptions of Winnetou's voice, vocabulary or rhetorical style can go a little overboard on occasion.
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* %%* ToThePain



* TricksterArchetype: If you step back and take a ''really'' good look at Old Shatterhand, you realise he's this, especially after he grows up a bit. He's always much more clever than the people around him, he's a consummate liar with a frightfully innocent face, is a truly honest man who nevertheless is willing to occasionally use (somewhat) dishonest means to reach his goals (though usually only when lives are on the line), always favors cunningness and yes, trickery instead of brute strength, if it ''does'' come down to using brute strength he is always able to somehow defeat much more powerful adversaries, is using ObfuscatingStupidity as often as he can, mostly to obtain information, not admit to his true identity for various reasons, and sometimes just ForTheLulz. He is often accused of having made a deal with the Devil/Evil Spirit because of how things always go his way. Both friends and enemies have called him "as cunning as a fox". (On a meta level, author Karl May must have been well-acquainted to the tales of Reineke the Fox, and was something of a real-life Trickster figure himself.)

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* TricksterArchetype: If you step back and take a ''really'' good look at Old Shatterhand, you realise he's this, especially after he grows up a bit. He's always much more clever than the people around him, he's a consummate liar with a frightfully innocent face, is a truly honest man who nevertheless is willing to occasionally use (somewhat) dishonest means to reach his goals (though usually only when lives are on the line), always favors cunningness and yes, trickery instead of brute strength, if it ''does'' come down to using brute strength he is always able to somehow defeat much more powerful adversaries, is using ObfuscatingStupidity as often as he can, mostly to obtain information, does not admit to his true identity for various reasons, and sometimes just ForTheLulz. He is often accused of having made a deal with the Devil/Evil Spirit because of how things always go his way. Both friends and enemies have called him "as cunning as a fox". (On a meta level, author Karl May must have been well-acquainted to the tales of Reineke the Fox, and was something of a real-life Trickster figure himself.)



* UndignifiedDeath

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* UngratefulBastard
* UnsportsmanlikeGloating: Something most badguys are prone to, while Charlie and Winnetou strongly oppose. At one point in "Treasure of the Silver Lake", Winnetou is on the receiving end of one of these, from a particularly old and nasty enemy Indian chief.

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* UnsportsmanlikeGloating: Something most badguys bad guys are prone to, while Charlie and Winnetou strongly oppose. At one point in "Treasure of the Silver Lake", Winnetou is on the receiving end of one of these, from a particularly old and nasty enemy Indian chief.



* VillainousBSOD

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* VolleyingInsults

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* VolleyingInsultsVolleyingInsults: Ususal prelude to duels.



* WhatAnIdiot

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* WritersSuck
* YearsTooEarly
* YouAreFat

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* YourNormalIsOurTaboo

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* AbductionIsLove: Discussed as a courting tradition among many Native American tribes. It's pointed out that many times this happened with the girl's accord.


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* AngerBornOfWorry: Both Mister Henry and Sam Hawkens get angry over Old Shatterhand (who they both see as a surogate son) putting himself into serious danger in what they see as a reckless manner.


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* LoveEpiphany: Old Shatterhand has a rather painful one about Martha Vogel. Though he has a reasonably good chance with her, he eventually gives her up without a fight -- more than once.
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%%* BadassBookworm: Charlie is very much a badass, and very, very much a bookworm.

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%%* * BadassBookworm: Charlie is very much a badass, and very, very much a bookworm.


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* YourFavorite: After a hilarious fight with Old Shatterhand, Mister Henry the gunsmith makes a peace offering by inviting his former greenhorn to dinner:
--> "Well, I'll make you a beer soup in the coffee machine. Isn't that your favorite? Now get going!"
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* BefriendingTheEnemy: Old Shatterhand tends to acquire friends (or at least admirers) from among even his most determined enemies. See the case of Pida, son of Kiowa chief Tangua, the first and probably most bitter enemy Old Shatterhand managed to make in the Wild West. Pida, on the other hand, is treated with kindness and respect, and he returns both feelings, remaining good friends with the white man who crippled his father until they are ''both'' old and grey.



%%* BewareTheHonestOnes: Old Shatterhand.
%%* BewareTheNiceOnes: Old Shatterhand.
%%* BewareTheSillyOnes: Sam Hawkens, Dick Hammerdull, "Aunt" Droll, and most of all, Hobble-Frank.
%%* BewareTheQuietOnes: Winnetou.

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%%* * BewareTheHonestOnes: Old Shatterhand.
%%* * BewareTheNiceOnes: Old Shatterhand.
%%* * BewareTheSillyOnes: Sam Hawkens, Dick Hammerdull, "Aunt" Droll, and most of all, Hobble-Frank.
%%* * BewareTheQuietOnes: Winnetou.



%%* BigDamnHeroes: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, both to each other and to others.

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%%* * BigDamnHeroes: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, both to each other and to others.



%%* BigFancyHouse: Conrad Werner and Martha Vogel's house. Judith Silberstein also has several.

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%%* * BigFancyHouse: Conrad Werner and Martha Vogel's house. Judith Silberstein also has several.



%%* BigGood: Tatellah-Satah in "Winnetou IV".
%%* BirdsOfAFeather: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.
%%* {{Bishonen}}: Winnetou. Apanatschka, the young Comanche chief. Young Eagle, who is distantly related to Winnetou.
%%* BitchInSheepsClothing: Judith Silberstein. Not that Charlie falls for it.

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%%* * BigGood: Tatellah-Satah in "Winnetou IV".
%%* * BirdsOfAFeather: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.
%%* * {{Bishonen}}: Winnetou. Apanatschka, the young Comanche chief. Young Eagle, who is distantly related to Winnetou.
%%* * BitchInSheepsClothing: Judith Silberstein. Not that Charlie falls for it.



* BlitheSpirit: Old Shatterhand, as soon as he sets foot into the Wild West.



* DefeatMeansFriendship: One of Old Shatterhand's ways of making new friends.



* Forgiveness: Old Shatterhand's most annoying quality, hands down. Even Winnetou has to pretty much force him to listen to reason once (Old Wabble) or twice (Old Cursing-Dry).
* ForHappiness
* TheFourLoves: Winnetou and Old Shatterhand definitely share three out of the four (''storge'', ''philia'' and most of all ''agape''). As for the ''eros'' part... books have literally been written about whether it applies to them or not. No official conclusions have been reached yet, so we'll just be letting this one at each reader's discretion.



* GoodFeelsGood



* TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin: Yep. Even when one of them dies.



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* HardHeadHardHead: Occasionally, some of Old Shatterhand's opponents turn out to be more physically resilient than he initially expected, and either take more effort to knock out, or wake up much sooner than expected...
** Old Shatterhand himself, if one were to judge by the number of times ''he'' gets hit over the head with a heavy blunt object and only gets a fainting spell followed by a nasty headache, instead of serious brain trauma and possibly death.
* HardWorkFallacy: Part of Old Shatterhand's work ethic.


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* HopeSpringsEternal: Old Shatterhand's personal philosophy.


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* IncorruptiblePurePureness: Winnetou, most of all. Old Shatterhand is a close second, though it should be specified that, while he ''is'' completely immune to ''outside'' corruptible influences, his own mind is not exactly as innocent as his face would have you believe.


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* JusticeWillPrevail


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* LaserGuidedKarma: All the time.
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