History Literature / Winnetou

26th Jul '16 8:44:38 AM LordGro
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* ActionMom: Tahua.

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* AlasPoorVillain: Old Wabble.
* TheAlcoholic: Rattler.

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* ApologisesALot

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* BadassBookworm: Charlie is very much a badass, and very, very much a bookworm.
* BadassFamily: Winnetou's family, made up of himself, his wise and brave father, his beautiful and resourceful sister, his kind teacher, and eventually his blood-brother.

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Winnetou's family, made up of himself, his wise and brave father, his beautiful and resourceful sister, his kind teacher, and eventually his blood-brother.



* BadassNative: Winnetou, of course. Several other secondary characters as well, with Colma Pushi standing out the most.

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* BadassNative: Winnetou, of course.Winnetou. Several other secondary characters as well, with Colma Pushi standing out the most.



* BewareTheHonestOnes: Old Shatterhand.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Old Shatterhand.
* BewareTheSillyOnes: Sam Hawkens, Dick Hammerdull, "Aunt" Droll, and most of all, Hobble-Frank.
* BewareTheQuietOnes: Winnetou.
* {{Bifauxnen}}: Colma-Puschi. Kah-o-oto. Amscha, the Beduin.

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* %%* BewareTheHonestOnes: Old Shatterhand.
* %%* BewareTheNiceOnes: Old Shatterhand.
* %%* BewareTheSillyOnes: Sam Hawkens, Dick Hammerdull, "Aunt" Droll, and most of all, Hobble-Frank.
* %%* BewareTheQuietOnes: Winnetou.
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Colma-Puschi. Kah-o-oto. Amscha, the Beduin.



* BigDamnHeroes: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, both to each other and to others.

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* BigFancyHouse: Conrad Werner and Martha Vogel's house. Judith Silberstein also has several.
* BigGood: Tatellah-Satah in "Winnetou IV".
* BirdsOfAFeather: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.

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* %%* BigFancyHouse: Conrad Werner and Martha Vogel's house. Judith Silberstein also has several.
* %%* BigGood: Tatellah-Satah in "Winnetou IV".
* %%* BirdsOfAFeather: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.



* BitchInSheepsClothing: Judith Silberstein. Not that Charlie falls for it.

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* %%* BitchInSheepsClothing: Judith Silberstein. Not that Charlie falls for it.



* ConvertingForLove: Winnetou, in a way.

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* %%* ConvertingForLove: Winnetou, in a way.
26th Jul '16 8:21:58 AM goldeneyes
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21st Jul '16 3:20:46 PM goldeneyes
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* BluffTheEavesdropper


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* GoThroughMe


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* IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer


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* PietàPlagiarism: Charlie holds Winnetou this way while he's dying. And all through the night that follows, without moving.


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* PoisonedWeapons


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* PreMortemOneLiner
* PrepareToDie


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* PublicExecution


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* ReadingTheEnemySMail


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* StopOrIWillShoot!


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* TakingTheBullet


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* TeamDad: Winnetou.
* TeamMom: Old Shatterhand. Killing grizzly bears one moment, then sewing an irresponsible teammate's damaged clothes (via grizzly bear ''cub'') all through the night.


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* ThereAreNoTherapists


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* ThreatBackfire
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* ToThePain
8th Jul '16 2:06:58 AM goldeneyes
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* SnowedIn
* TheSoulSaver

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* SnowedIn
SnowedIn: Due to heavy snowfall, the good guys have to spend part of the winter in the Shoshone's hide-spot at the end of "Holy Night!"
* TheSoulSaverSnowMeansDeath: In "Holy Night!", Carpio dies during a snowy Christmas night up in the Rockies.
* TheSoulSaver: Alternately, Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.
7th Jul '16 2:29:48 PM goldeneyes
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* EmpathicEnvironment: Done with heavy summer storms, several times.



* UndyingLoyalty: Winnetou and Old Shatterhand. Even when one of them ''does'' physically die, the loyalty does not.

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* UndyingLoyalty: Winnetou and Old Shatterhand. Even when one of them ''does'' physically die, the his loyalty does not.continues to act from beyond the grave.


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* WhenItRainsItPours: Justified, as this tends to happen in the arid landscapes of the Southern US.
26th Jun '16 3:23:02 PM marmota-b
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** Played straight with Bob in ''Der Sohn des Bärenjägers'' when the Bear-hunter's son's life is threatened.



* CoincidenceMagnet: Old Shatterhand. Mysteries that have lasted millenias, secrets that have been buried for decades, hidden identities, faked deaths, fugitives across two or three continents, he stumbles upon all of these and more, and he solves them without trying, because he happens to be at the right place at the right time, or do the right thing for the right person. Watching several coincidence trains-of-events converge upon him at the same time can be quite fascinating.

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* CoincidenceMagnet: Old Shatterhand. Mysteries that have lasted millenias, secrets that have been buried for decades, hidden identities, faked deaths, fugitives across two or three continents, he stumbles upon all of these and more, and he solves them (mostly) without trying, because he happens to be at the right place at the right time, or do the right thing for the right person. Watching several coincidence trains-of-events converge upon him at the same time can be quite fascinating.



* DangerousTerrain: The salt flats. Any cave they have to enter, on either continent. The hidden icy ravines in the short story featuring Eskimos. Canyons, due to the lack of both hiding places and the possibility to see your enemies coming.

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* DangerousTerrain: The salt flats. Any cave they have to enter, on either continent. The hidden icy ravines in the short story featuring Eskimos.the Sami. Canyons, due to the lack of both hiding places and the possibility to see your enemies coming.



* DeadlyDustStorm: In "The Spirit of Llano Estacado" one of these hits the part of the desert where Old Shatterhand was supposed to be. Winnetou, in a different location, sees the storm from afar and worries darkly about his friend.

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* DeadlyDustStorm: In "The ''The Spirit of Llano Estacado" Estacado'' one of these hits the part of the desert where Old Shatterhand was supposed to be. Winnetou, in a different location, sees the storm from afar and worries darkly about his friend.



* DistressedDude: Winnetou and Intschu-tschuna falling prisoners to the Kiowas. Old Shatterhand himself more times than it's worth remembering. And Winnetou himself a few times more.

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* DistressedDude: Winnetou and Intschu-tschuna falling prisoners to the Kiowas. Old Shatterhand himself more times than it's worth remembering. And Winnetou himself a few times more. The whole plot of ''Der Sohn des Bärenjägers'' is based around a long-distance rescue attempt, and more characters are captured and subsequently rescued along the way.



* EnemyMine: More common among individuals than groups, but the Apaches and Comanches have their moments. Winnetou and Old Shatterhand definitely make friends among the Comanches (Tevua-shohe, his son Schiba-bigc, and especially Apanatschka) the Osages (Matto-Schakko), and even the Kiowas (Tangua's own son, Pida).

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* EnemyMine: More common among individuals than groups, but the Apaches and Comanches have their moments. Winnetou and Old Shatterhand definitely make friends among the Comanches (Tevua-shohe, his son Schiba-bigc, and especially Apanatschka) Apanatschka), the Osages (Matto-Schakko), and even the Kiowas (Tangua's own son, Pida).



* EskimoLand: Setting of one short mystery story.

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* EskimoLand: Setting of one short mystery story. ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1pmi Lapland]], actually.)



* FatComicRelief: Dick Hammerdull, though he does ''not'' appreciate the fat part. Hobble-Frank as well.

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* FatComicRelief: Dick Hammerdull, though he does ''not'' appreciate the fat part. Hobble-Frank Occasionally "Fat Jemmy" as well.well, although he shows considerable competence and cunning of his own.



* {{Flanderization}}: In Karl May's early serialized stories Winnetou had a distinct darker, more savage side, but at the years passed the author idealized his hero more an more until he finally became a Christ-like figure and the ultimate NobleSavage. No, make that the ultimate Noble ''Man''

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* {{Flanderization}}: In Karl May's early serialized stories Winnetou had a distinct darker, more savage side, but at the years passed the author idealized his hero more an more until he finally became a Christ-like figure and the ultimate NobleSavage. No, make that the ultimate Noble ''Man''''Man''.



** In "Satan and Iscariot", Charlie tells Emery Bothwell about one of his and Winnetou's earlier adventures, which included them and a group of travellers suffer from thirst while crossing the Llano Estacado. While weakend, they are all captured by the Comanches. While there was no current conflict, the Comanches decide to burn them at the stake anyway. They start by killing the other travellers, while Winnetou and Charlie are forced to watch. Their fury at the sight gives them the needed impulse to not only escape in an extremely bold manner, but also that they come back to take ''revenge'' -- one rare exception to their usually "forgiving-your-enemies" policy. For his part, Emery is more creeped out by Charlie's calm and casual retelling of the events, which in themselves were unusually gory.

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** In "Satan and Iscariot", Charlie tells Emery Bothwell about one of his and Winnetou's earlier adventures, which included them and a group of travellers suffer from thirst while crossing the Llano Estacado. While weakend, weakened, they are all captured by the Comanches. While there was no current conflict, the Comanches decide to burn them at the stake anyway. They start by killing the other travellers, while Winnetou and Charlie are forced to watch. Their fury at the sight gives them the needed impulse to not only escape in an extremely bold manner, but also that they come back to take ''revenge'' -- one rare exception to their usually "forgiving-your-enemies" policy. For his part, Emery is more creeped out by Charlie's calm and casual retelling of the events, which in themselves were unusually gory.



* GentlemanAdventurer: Lord Castlepool.

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* GentlemanAdventurer: Lord Castlepool.Castlepool and Lord David Lindsay.



* GoodSamaritan: Winnetou and Old Shatterhand, but also a lot of their many friends as well.

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* GoodSamaritan: Winnetou and Old Shatterhand, but also a lot of their many friends as well. Winnetou gets to be a particularly literal example in "Der Schatz am Silbersee", when he treats a white man, seriously wounded by bandits, that he comes across along his way.



* IrrationalHatred: Old Wabble hate towards Old Shatterhand is as unexplainable as Old Shatterhand's continued mercy towards Old Wabble. The reason for all this debacle doesn't click until the very end.

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* IrrationalHatred: Old Wabble Wabble's hate towards Old Shatterhand is as unexplainable as Old Shatterhand's continued mercy towards Old Wabble. The reason for all this debacle doesn't click until the very end.



* KnowNothingKnowItAll: Hobble-Frank,at least when it comes to formal education. Carpio, when it comes to pretty much ''everything''.

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* KnowNothingKnowItAll: Hobble-Frank,at Hobble-Frank, at least when it comes to formal education. Carpio, when it comes to pretty much ''everything''.



* OldFriend: Carpio in "Holy Night!

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* OldFriend: Carpio in "Holy Night!Night!"



* QuintessentialBritishGentleman: Karl May lived at a time when wealthy British globetrotters were a common trope, so some characters of this type appear in his works. The Scotsman Lord Castlepool in ''Film/DerSchatzImSilbersee'' is obsessed with making wagers and travels through the Wild West in search of adventure, paying his guides 50 Dollars per adventure.
* RagtagBunchofMisfits: All groups that tend to form around Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.

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* QuintessentialBritishGentleman: Karl May lived at a time when wealthy British globetrotters were a common trope, so some characters of this type appear in his works. The Scotsman Lord Castlepool in ''Film/DerSchatzImSilbersee'' "Der Schatz Im Silbersee" is obsessed with making wagers and travels through the Wild West in search of adventure, paying his guides 50 Dollars per adventure.
adventure. (He can be pretty BadAss when it comes to it, but this aspect of his personalities was downplayed in TheFilmOfTheBook in favour of more PluckyComicRelief characterisation.)
* RagtagBunchofMisfits: All groups that tend to form around Old Shatterhand and Winnetou.
22nd Jun '16 10:16:00 PM PaulA
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* BlasphemousPraise

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* BlasphemousPraiseBlasphemousPraise: "Even Manitou couldn't ride a better horse than this."
* BlingBlingBang: Winnetou wields a double rifle richly ornated with silver studs.



* BottomlessMagazines: Invoked. Old Shatterhand's "Henry carbine" actually packs "only" twenty-five shots into a magazine that's apparently complex enough that few if any enemies who manage to get hold of the gun ever figure it out, but because that's still a lot of shots between reloads and he rarely needs to expend them all before topping it off again a number of his more superstitious adversaries -- especially those who only know him by reputation -- do end up convinced that the weapon is somehow magical and a straight example of the trope, and he in turn takes full advantage of that misconception quite a few times.



* {{Hypocrite:}} A lot of the bad guys, and bad women.

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* {{Hypocrite:}} {{Hypocrite}}: A lot of the bad guys, and bad women.



* InSeriesNickname: Most of the ''Westmänner'' (Westmen) go by their colourful nicknames, not their real ones, for instance Old Shatterhand, Old Surehand, Old Firehand, Old Death, Old Wabble, Gunstick-Uncle, Earless and Tante Droll.



* ThirstyDesert

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* ThirstyDesertThirstyDesert: The (really existing) Llano Estacado is described as this in the stories and usually comes complete with at least some miscreants planning to lead travelers astray explicitly so they can die of thirst and never be heard from again.
22nd Jun '16 9:36:02 PM PaulA
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* FairForItsDay: Most of Karl May's works were not only FairForItsDay, but actually so progressive for their era that they managed to offend a ''lot'' of very different types of people in his native Germany, from the trash papers to the clergy.



* FetishFuelStationAttendant: Winnetou is drop-dead gorgeous, and that's only his most superficial quality.



* HoYay: Between Charlie and Winnetou, aided e. g. by Karl May's delight in describing long, wavy hair, like that of the Apache chief. German writer Arno Schmidt tried to demonstrate a homoerotic subtext in the post-Freudian study Sitara (1963) which caused a bit of storm in a teacup, mainly because he tried to demonstrate often by Joycean word-association games that every canyon appearing in a Karl May story really is a reference to the crevice between the buttocks and every cave really stands for an anus. Pointless really, when Karl May spoke so openly in his books about his love for Winnetou (in the 'soul mate' sense, not the brotherly one), there are kisses and embraces and hand-holding whenever the mood occurs. None of which occur with Charlie's actual wife, Klara.



* IronWoobie: Old Shatterhand and Winnetou, if one thinks about their actual experiences and ignores the stoic attitudes.



* SignatureScene



* YouLookFamiliar: Karin Dor played the role of Ellen Patterson in ''Tas,he Treasure of Silver Lake''. In ''Last of the Renegades'', she played Winnetou's Love Interest, an Indian girl Ribanna. And in "Winnetou and Shatterhand in the Valley of Death" she plays Mabel, the daughter of major Kingsley.
22nd Jun '16 9:25:19 PM PaulA
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* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: As he only disposed of a small sample base of words from Amerindian languages in his reference books, May would sometimes mix up words from unrelated languages when giving his Indians names or having them speak. Most laughable: Apaches speaking among themselves calling a wife with Algonquian word "squaw" ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaw#Controversy which raised]] UnfortunateImplications in modern day). Apache language is not even related to Algonquian languages.



* BeautyIsNeverTarnished: Played straight with young women, partly subverted with older ones. So it's usually a case of aging, occasionally with the narration pointing out she used to be a beauty in her youth. One particular case is that of Tocbela in "Old Surehand". In her case, her great beauty was ruined early on by shock and madness, and she barely recovers a little sanity when she's in her forties and irrevocably changed physically. Her older sister Tahua, also a famous beauty, was also changed by the trials of her ActionGirl lifestyle.

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* BeautyIsNeverTarnished: Played straight with young women, partly subverted with older ones. So it's usually a case of aging, occasionally with the narration pointing out she used to be a beauty in her youth. youth.
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One particular case is that of Tocbela in "Old Surehand". In her case, her great beauty was ruined early on by shock and madness, and she barely recovers a little sanity when she's in her forties and irrevocably changed physically. Her older sister Tahua, also a famous beauty, was also changed by the trials of her ActionGirl lifestyle.lifestyle.
** [[ForTheLulz Comically]] [[InvertedTrope inverted]] in ''Winnetou III'' 5th chapter with Señora Eulalia and Señorita Alma, wife and daughter of a poor Mexican rancher [[ImpoverishedPatrician of Spanish aristocratic stock]]. Both are described and made fun of as dirty and disheveled.



* CoolGuns: Charlie's Bear-slayer and Henry Rifle paired with Winnetou's Silver Rifle.



* GermanPeculiarities: Karl May was a patriotic German and so some peculiarities of the day show up. For instance in a story where Winnetou visits Charlie at home in Germany, he arrives just in time for choir practice of the local male voice choir, which does an impromptu recital for him. Winnetou himself has been called "the most German of all Indians" by some people, probably in part due to his preferred drinknote . Here's a scene where he goes into a saloon:
"I'd like a glass of beer, German beer!" said the Indian with a melodious, sonorous voice and in beautiful, fluent English. (...) He received his beer, raised the glass to the light of the window, examined it with the glance of an expert, and drank. "Well!" he told the host, smacking his tongue, "Your beer is good. The Great Manitou of the white men has taught them many arts, and brewing beer is not the least among them."

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* GermanPeculiarities: UsefulNotes/GermanPeculiarities: Karl May was a patriotic German and so some peculiarities of the day show up. For instance in a story where Winnetou visits Charlie at home in Germany, he arrives just in time for choir practice of the local male voice choir, which does an impromptu recital for him. Winnetou himself has been called "the most German of all Indians" by some people, probably in part due to his preferred drinknote .drink[[note]]also an irony on the alleged [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_Native_Americans vulnerability of Native Americans to hard liquors]] brewed in the Anglophone world, showing the Germans as the more civilized of the White drinkers[[/note]]. Here's a scene where he goes into a saloon:
--> "I'd like a glass of beer, German beer!" said the Indian with a melodious, sonorous voice and in beautiful, fluent English. (...) He received his beer, raised the glass to the light of the window, examined it with the glance of an expert, and drank. "Well!" "[[GratuitousEnglish Well]]!" he told the host, smacking his tongue, "Your beer is good. The Great Manitou of the white men has taught them many arts, and brewing beer is not the least among them."



* NobleSavage: Winnetou and many other Native American characters tend to go in that direction, "Indsmen" antagonists tend to leave out the "noble" part.



* NumberedSequels: Karl May wrote four books entitled ''Winnetou I'' (full title: ''Winnetou. 1. Band'', i. e. "Winnetou. Volume 1") to ''Winnetou IV'' (full title: ''Winnetou. 4. Band'', i. e. "Winnetou. Volume 4"), as well as three called ''Old Surehand I'' to ''Old Surehand III''. As Winnetou is killed in ''Winnetou III'' and ''Winnetou IV'' is very different in tone and subject from the previous three volumes (it relates of how Old Shatterhand, now in his 60s, returns to the Wild West to help erect a monument to his old companion and to oversee what happens to his legacy), the publishers retitled the fourth volume ''Winnetous Erben'' ("Winnetou's heirs") in 1914.

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* NumberedSequels: Karl May wrote four books entitled ''Winnetou I'' (full title: ''Winnetou. 1. Band'', i. e. "Winnetou. Volume 1") to ''Winnetou IV'' (full title: ''Winnetou. 4. Band'', i. e. "Winnetou. Volume 4"), as well as three called ''Old Surehand I'' to ''Old Surehand III'' and three called ''Satan und Ischariot I'' to ''Satan und Ischariot III''. As Winnetou is killed in ''Winnetou III'' and ''Winnetou IV'' is very different in tone and subject from the previous three volumes (it relates of how Old Shatterhand, now in his 60s, returns to the Wild West to help erect a monument to his old companion and to oversee what happens to his legacy), the publishers retitled the fourth volume ''Winnetous Erben'' ("Winnetou's heirs") in 1914.



* QuintessentialBritishGentleman: Karl May lived at a time when wealthy British globetrotters were a common trope, so some characters of this type appear in his works. The Scotsman Lord Castlepool in Der Schatz im Silbersee is obsessed with making wagers and travels through the Wild West in search of adventure, paying his guides 50 Dollars per adventure.

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* QuintessentialBritishGentleman: Karl May lived at a time when wealthy British globetrotters were a common trope, so some characters of this type appear in his works. The Scotsman Lord Castlepool in Der Schatz im Silbersee ''Film/DerSchatzImSilbersee'' is obsessed with making wagers and travels through the Wild West in search of adventure, paying his guides 50 Dollars per adventure.


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* SelfInsertFic: One of the lies May tried to pass around was that he really went to America and experienced what Old Shatterhand did. Old Shatterhand is also called Charlie. Karl, Charles, Charlie -- get it? At some point in the early stories, before getting his nickname, the character admits to be a German immigrant.
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