History Literature / VorkosiganSaga

22nd Aug '16 1:26:07 AM Morgenthaler
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** The clash between Progressive Vor and Conservative Vor mimics the ideological conflict between Europhiles and Slavophiles in RealLife ImperialRussia.

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** The clash between Progressive Vor and Conservative Vor mimics the ideological conflict between Europhiles and Slavophiles in RealLife ImperialRussia.UsefulNotes/ImperialRussia.
18th Aug '16 9:39:06 PM PaulA
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* "Mountains of Mourning"

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* "Mountains "The Mountains of Mourning"



* "Borders of Infinity"

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* "Borders "The Borders of Infinity"
11th Aug '16 1:11:03 AM PaulA
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** {{Lampshaded}} by Mark, who called Miles' girlfriends and love interests "terrifying Amazons" and "the harrowing harem". Miles tends to be attracted to tall, aggressive women.

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** Aral and Cordelia.
** Miles tends to be attracted to tall, aggressive women.
{{Lampshaded}} by Mark, who called Miles' girlfriends and love interests "terrifying Amazons" and "the harrowing harem". Miles tends to be attracted to tall, aggressive women. harem".


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** Roic and Taura.
8th Aug '16 5:46:16 AM longWriter
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* UnwantedAssistance: Duv to Miles [[spoiler: after Miles, having accidentally sabotages his chances with Laisa Toscane by introducing her to Gregor, offers to assist Duv in his courtship of Delia Koudelka.]]
1st Aug '16 7:25:54 AM Rday
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However, since his relatives include his wealthy mother who is the [[GrandDame Emperor's trusted social advisor]] (whom Tej estimates would be a Minor House in her own right if she were Jacksonian), two of the [[FourStarBadass greatest military leaders Barrayar has ever known]], the youngest Lord Auditor ever appointed (who was also a very important Military leader, in a slightly skewed way), a key behind-the-scenes political player in a triplanetary Empire, the former {{spymaster}} for said Empire, and ''The Emperor'' of said Empire, it's also true to say that "middling along" by their standards would be wholly exceptional by anyone else's.\\

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However, since his relatives include his wealthy mother who is the [[GrandDame Emperor's trusted social advisor]] (whom Tej estimates would be a Minor House in her own right if she were Jacksonian), two of the [[FourStarBadass greatest military leaders Barrayar has ever known]], the youngest Lord Auditor ever appointed (who was also a very important Military leader, in a slightly skewed way), a key behind-the-scenes political player in a triplanetary Empire, the former {{spymaster}} for said Empire, and ''The Emperor'' of said Empire, it's also true to say that "middling along" by their standards would be wholly exceptional by anyone else's.\\



*** Miles and Ekaterine have six children altogether. Though she wisely squashed his suggestion of having them all at once.
** In ''Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen'' there are ''nine'' of them! [[spoiler: All of which have Aral as the father courtesy of frozen sperm. Six are with Cordelia as the mother, three are with Aral's secret male partner Admiral Oliver Jole as the second father! This allows for both Cordelia and Oliver to gain closure after Aral's death]].

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*** ** Miles and Ekaterine have six children altogether. Though she wisely squashed his suggestion of having them all at once.
** In ''Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen'' there are ''nine'' of them! nine. [[spoiler: All of which have Aral as the father courtesy of frozen sperm. Six are with Cordelia as the mother, three are with Aral's secret male partner Admiral Oliver Jole as the second father! father. This allows for both Cordelia and Oliver to gain closure after Aral's death]].
1st Aug '16 6:36:47 AM AnotherGuy
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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: Played with in ''Ethan of Athos'', since it's not so much that Athos is silly for still being highly religious but instead silly for the rather misogynist and gynophobic theology that informed the colony's founders. Also averted from an unlikely source -- Cordelia, of highly progressive, scientific, sociologically and psychologically-minded Beta Colony, is rather calmly, quietly Christian. Her Christianity is only mentioned in passing by Miles a couple times, having been a minor influence in how she raised him. Everyone else seems blandly indifferent to the question of God, though occasionally willing to entreat or curse Him silently during moments of duress.

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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions:
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Played with in ''Ethan of Athos'', since it's not so much that Athos is silly for still being highly religious but instead silly for the rather misogynist and gynophobic theology that informed the colony's founders. founders.
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Also averted from an unlikely source -- Cordelia, of highly progressive, scientific, sociologically and psychologically-minded Beta Colony, is rather calmly, quietly Christian. Her Christianity is only mentioned in passing by Miles a couple times, having been a minor influence in how she raised him. Everyone else seems blandly indifferent to the question of God, though occasionally willing to entreat or curse Him silently during moments of duress.duress.
** Emperor Ezar says he's atheist, and it's given him great comfort in his final days. Cordelia says she envies him. Ezar tops her by commenting there's no one more ruthless than someone of faith when she says Aral shouldn't give up the "gift" of the challenge of being Imperial Regent.
31st Jul '16 7:48:44 AM Rday
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* BabiesEverAfter: ''Nine'' of them! [[spoiler: All of which have Aral as the father courtesy of frozen sperm. Six are with Cordelia as the mother, three are with Aral's secret male partner Admiral Oliver Jole as the second father! This allows for both Cordelia and Oliver to gain closure after Aral's death]].

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* BabiesEverAfter: ''Nine'' BabiesEverAfter:
*** Miles and Ekaterine have six children altogether. Though she wisely squashed his suggestion of having them all at once.
** In ''Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen'' there are ''nine''
of them! [[spoiler: All of which have Aral as the father courtesy of frozen sperm. Six are with Cordelia as the mother, three are with Aral's secret male partner Admiral Oliver Jole as the second father! This allows for both Cordelia and Oliver to gain closure after Aral's death]].
31st Jul '16 7:20:57 AM AnotherGuy
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It's safe to say that [[HypercompetentSidekick as a personal secretary]] of the frigging ''Chief Of Naval Opertations'' (Desplains' actual post), and thus a man who decides what Desplains would and what he wouldn't know and whom he would or wouldn't meet, Ivan is actually '''personally running the whole of Barrayar's military'''.
29th Jul '16 4:19:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ForgotToGagHim: Miles manages to HeelFaceTurn so many people with his sheer gift of the gab that one Admiral qualifies for 'DangerouslyGenreSavvy' solely by virtue of instructing his men to cut out his tongue if he tries to speak. It still doesn't save him from getting talked into turning sides later...

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* ForgotToGagHim: Miles manages to HeelFaceTurn so HeelFaceTurn many people with his sheer gift of the gab that one Admiral qualifies for 'DangerouslyGenreSavvy' solely by virtue of instructing instructed his men to cut out his tongue if he tries to speak. It still doesn't save him from getting talked into turning sides later...
21st Jul '16 8:12:28 PM AnotherGuy
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* WhoWatchesTheWatchmen: In ''Mirror Dance'', Mark wonders who psychoanalyzes Cordelia, who psychoanalyzes everyone, pondering "Who shaves the barber?" He later gets his answer: [[spoiler: Emperor Gregor]].

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* WhoWatchesTheWatchmen: WhoWatchesTheWatchmen:
** The Imperial Auditors are the Barrayarran answer to this question. They are handpicked by the Emperor to investigate any matter he thinks needs special attention, and are chosen for two qualities; incorruptibility and the ability to stand up to very dangerous people without flinching.
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In ''Mirror Dance'', Mark wonders who psychoanalyzes Cordelia, who psychoanalyzes everyone, pondering "Who shaves the barber?" He later gets his answer: [[spoiler: Emperor Gregor]].
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