History Literature / ThursdayNext

15th Apr '17 6:43:27 PM Rebu
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* WeaponsThatSuck: Spike's special vacuum cleaner. Designed to suck up [=SEBs=] (Supreme Evil Beings), which Spike deals with on a near-weekly basis.

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* WeaponsThatSuck: Spike's special vacuum cleaner. Designed to suck up [=SEBs=] (Supreme Evil Beings), which Spike deals with on a near-weekly basis. It's also [[MundaneUtility a vacuum cleaner]], because everyone needs to clean their carpets.
15th Apr '17 6:40:50 PM Rebu
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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: The twenty-second subbasement of the Well of Lost Plots is described as "a haven for cutthroats, bounty hunters, murderers, thieves, cheats, shape-shifters, scene-stealers, brigands, and ''plagiarists.''
** although in-universe, given the nature of the Well, plagiarism is at least as bad as theft. And cheating.

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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: The twenty-second subbasement of the Well of Lost Plots is described as "a haven for cutthroats, bounty hunters, murderers, thieves, cheats, shape-shifters, scene-stealers, brigands, and ''plagiarists.''
** although in-universe, given
'' [[note]] Given the nature of the Well, plagiarism is at least as bad as theft.theft in-universe. And cheating.[[/note]]



* RealityIsUnrealistic: After ''The Eyre Affair'', Thursday's look becomes the in thing "How can I not have the Thursday Next look? I ''am'' Thursday Next!" (So says Thursday after being featured in a pop magazine and [[YouAreTheNewTrend inspiring a new fashion trend]].)

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* RealityIsUnrealistic: After ''The Eyre Affair'', Thursday's [[YouAreTheNewTrend look becomes the in thing thing]], and she learns that she doesn't quite have the Thursday Next look right.
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"How can I not have the Thursday Next look? I ''am'' Thursday Next!" (So says Thursday after being featured in a pop magazine and [[YouAreTheNewTrend inspiring a new fashion trend]].)



* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: Subverted in ''Lost in a Good Book'', where a demon hunter has captured countless beings, all believing themselves to be the ultimate incarnation of Evil on earth.
** Later, we find that all of those beings are kept in jars in the same room and argue about who is the supremest Supreme Evil Being.

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* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: Subverted in ''Lost in a Good Book'', where a demon hunter has captured countless beings, all believing themselves to be the ultimate incarnation of Evil on earth.
** Later, we find that all of those beings are
earth. They're kept in jars in the same room and argue about who is the supremest Supreme Evil Being.
6th Mar '17 7:05:35 PM mlsmithca
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* FanworkBan: [[invoked]] Subverted! In book six Thursday visits the island of {{fanfiction}}, and is surprised to find it a lively place that's one big party -- because it's a celebration of their source material. While the locations and character are described as flat, this is stated to be a side-effect of being copied, with varying degrees of severity depending on the quality of the writer. Plus it tangentially references [[SoCoolItsAwesome Thursday and the Doctor fighting Daleks]].
** As for ''Thursday Next'' fanfiction, Fforde has said that he doesn't mind, but would rather people spent the time inventing their own creations.

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* FanworkBan: [[invoked]] Subverted! In book six Thursday visits the island of {{fanfiction}}, and is surprised to find it a lively place that's one big party -- because it's a celebration of their source material. While the locations and character are described as flat, this is stated to be a side-effect of being copied, with varying degrees of severity depending on the quality of the writer. Plus it tangentially references [[SoCoolItsAwesome Thursday and the Doctor fighting Daleks]].
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Daleks. As for ''Thursday Next'' fanfiction, Fforde has said that he doesn't mind, but would rather people spent the time inventing their own creations.
25th Jan '17 12:34:47 AM PaulA
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* DrivesLikeCrazy: [[Literature/GreatExpectations Miss Havisham]] and [[TheWindInTheWillows Mr. Toad]].

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* DrivesLikeCrazy: [[Literature/GreatExpectations Miss Havisham]] and [[TheWindInTheWillows [[Literature/TheWindInTheWillows Mr. Toad]].
21st Dec '16 11:45:03 AM LBHills
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** Which is pretty ironic considering the Thursday Next series is about fifty percent crossover fanfiction.
** Even more ironic because the character in question is talking about how more people reading the book damages it (the character's job is to perform maintanance on books as they suffer routine wear and tear from being read). That's right, don't write fan fiction, ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor it causes more people to read the original work]]''.
** The extra "wear" isn't from more readers, but the closer trawling for detail to better establish and collate the {{canon}}, which SF and Fantasy fans do more than other genres.
*** But if you wear one out too much, you have to get a new copy, which ''authors'' should love.
*** But the BookWorld people hate it because they have to devote a disporportionate amount of manpower to repairing one book.
** In the sixth book, we actually get to see the Fanfiction area of the Bookworld -- and it's as clever as you'd think.

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%% This natter has been elided on behalf of the BookWorld Committee for Readable Tropes.
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** Which is pretty ironic considering the Thursday Next series is about fifty percent crossover fanfiction.
%% ** Even more ironic because the character in question is talking about how more people reading the book damages it (the character's job is to perform maintanance maintenance on books as they suffer routine wear and tear from being read). That's right, don't write fan fiction, ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor it causes more people to read the original work]]''.
%% ** The extra "wear" isn't from more readers, but the closer trawling for detail to better establish and collate the {{canon}}, which SF and Fantasy fans do more than other genres.
%% *** But if you wear one out too much, you have to get a new copy, which ''authors'' should love.
%% *** But the BookWorld people hate it because they have to devote a disporportionate disproportionate amount of manpower to repairing one book.
** In the sixth book, we actually get to see the Fanfiction area of the Bookworld theBookworld -- and it's as clever as you'd think.
21st Dec '16 11:39:30 AM LBHills
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* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Two of the Hades siblings, Acheron and Aornis, have unnatural powers. Acheron is invulnerable to [[SilverHasSpecialPowers any non-silver weapon]], knows exactly where his name is spoken (anywhere!), and can overwrite innocent peoples' minds into soulless slaves. Aornis has only the power to alter peoples' memories. ''[[MindRape Aornis is far more dangerous]].''

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* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Two of the Hades siblings, Acheron and Aornis, have unnatural powers. Acheron is invulnerable to [[SilverHasSpecialPowers any non-silver weapon]], nigh-invulnerable, knows exactly where his name is spoken (anywhere!), and can overwrite innocent peoples' minds into soulless slaves. Aornis has only the power to alter peoples' memories. ''[[MindRape Aornis is far more dangerous]].''
21st Dec '16 11:37:43 AM LBHills
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* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Two of the Hades siblings, Acheron and Aornis, have unnatural powers. Acheron is invulnerable to [[SilverHasSpecialPowers any non-silver weapon]], knows exactly where his name is spoken (anywhere!), and can overwrite innocent peoples' minds into soulless slaves. Aornis has only the power to alter peoples' memories. ''[[MindRape Aornis is far more dangerous]].''
21st Dec '16 11:07:03 AM LBHills
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...



In addition, there is an UnInstallment known as ''The Great Samuel Pepys Fiasco'' between the fourth and fifth/sixth books. The book doesn't exist (because of events in ''First Among Sequels'') but it's still listed in "other works by this author".

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In addition, there is an UnInstallment known as ''The Great Samuel Pepys Fiasco'' between the fourth and fifth/sixth books. [[RetGone The book doesn't exist (because of exist]] because events in ''First Among Sequels'') Sequels'' removed it from the timeline... [[MindScrew but it's still listed in "other works by this author".
author".]]
29th Oct '16 5:55:30 PM Theriocephalus
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* [[spoiler:AmnesiaLoop]]: In ''First Among Sequels'' with Thursday in regards to Jenny. (This [[spoiler:spreads to the rest of the family]] in ''The Woman Who Died a Lot.''

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* [[spoiler:AmnesiaLoop]]: AmnesiaLoop: In ''First Among Sequels'' with Thursday in regards to Jenny. (This [[spoiler:spreads to the rest of the family]] in ''The Woman Who Died a Lot.''



* FanworkBan: [[invoked]] Subverted! In book six Thursday visits the island of {{fanfiction}}, and is surprised to find it a lively place that's one big party - because it's a celebration of their source material. While the locations and character are described as flat, this is stated to be a side-effect of being copied, with varying degrees of severity depending on the quality of the writer. Plus it tangentially references [[SoCoolItsAwesome Thursday and the Doctor fighting Daleks]].
** (As for ''Thursday Next'' fanfiction, Fforde has said that he doesn't mind, but would rather people spent the time inventing their own creations.)

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* FanworkBan: [[invoked]] Subverted! In book six Thursday visits the island of {{fanfiction}}, and is surprised to find it a lively place that's one big party - -- because it's a celebration of their source material. While the locations and character are described as flat, this is stated to be a side-effect of being copied, with varying degrees of severity depending on the quality of the writer. Plus it tangentially references [[SoCoolItsAwesome Thursday and the Doctor fighting Daleks]].
** (As As for ''Thursday Next'' fanfiction, Fforde has said that he doesn't mind, but would rather people spent the time inventing their own creations.)






* GreatWhiteHunter / MightyWhitey : Commander Trafford Bradshaw is a safari adventurer from a series of boys' adventure novels. Since nobody reads such politically incorrect stuff any longer, he has lots of free time for his hobby (director of the [=BookWorld=]'s law enforcement.)



* MentorOccupationalHazard: [[spoiler:Miss Havisham]]
* [[MetafictionDemandedThisIndex Metafictional devices]]: Because so much of the plot revolves around dealing with events inside books and with fictional characters, nearly all devices get used to some extent, especially TrappedInTVLand, RefugeeFromTVLand, and MediumAwareness.

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* MentorOccupationalHazard: [[spoiler:Miss Havisham]]
Havisham]].
* [[MetafictionDemandedThisIndex Metafictional devices]]: Because so much MightyWhitey: Commander Trafford Bradshaw is a safari adventurer from a series of boys' adventure novels set in Africa. Since nobody reads such politically incorrect stuff any longer, he has lots of free time for his other job as director of the plot revolves around dealing with events inside books and with fictional characters, nearly all devices get used to some extent, especially TrappedInTVLand, RefugeeFromTVLand, and MediumAwareness.[=BookWorld=]'s law enforcement.



* [[OnceAnEpisode Once A Book]]: Thursday will have to help Spike Stoker out with a magical or supernatural mission, usually completely unrelated to the rest of the story - in fact Fforde once described the Spike segments as 'a breather' in the pell-mell plot. [[spoiler:The exception being in the first book - at the end, Thursday discovers that silver can hurt her NighInvulnerable foe, and remembers that she still has an anti-werewolf silver bullet in her pocket from the Spike mission]]. In the sixth book, Spike appears briefly, but there is no mission, and in the seventh he's only mentioned by Thursday's psychiatrist. And it's only a brief flashback in ''Well.''

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* [[OnceAnEpisode Once A Book]]: OnceAnEpisode: Thursday will have to help Spike Stoker out with a magical or supernatural mission, usually completely unrelated to the rest of the story - in fact Fforde once described the Spike segments as 'a breather' in the pell-mell plot. [[spoiler:The exception being in the first book - at the end, Thursday discovers that silver can hurt her NighInvulnerable foe, and remembers that she still has an anti-werewolf silver bullet in her pocket from the Spike mission]]. In the sixth book, Spike appears briefly, but there is no mission, and in the seventh he's only mentioned by Thursday's psychiatrist. And it's only a brief flashback in ''Well.''



* PowerPerversionPotential: In ''One of our Thursdays is Missing'', Professor Plum mentions that when it was still allowed, many BookWorlders visited the Real World for the sex.
* PropheticName / PunnyName / RedShirt: In ''Lost in a Good Book'', Thursday is "protected" by pairs of government agents with names like Kannon and Phodder, Deadman and Walken, etc... they don't last long.

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* PowerPerversionPotential: In ''One of our Thursdays is Missing'', Professor Plum mentions that when it was still allowed, many BookWorlders [=BookWorlders=] visited the Real World for the sex.
sex, since sex in literature tends to be too cursorily described to be any good.
* PropheticName / PunnyName / RedShirt: PropheticName: In ''Lost in a Good Book'', Thursday is "protected" by pairs of government agents with names like Kannon and Phodder, Deadman and Walken, etc... they don't last long.



** In the sixth book, we actually get to see the Fanfiction area of the Bookworld - and it's as clever as you'd think.

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** In the sixth book, we actually get to see the Fanfiction area of the Bookworld - -- and it's as clever as you'd think.



* WritersSuck / TakeThatUs: Due to the way fiction is in this world, the least important person involved in storytelling is the '''author''', the spark of inspiration is generated spontaneously by the universe itself, the [=BookWorld=] characters act out the story and maintain the infrastructure required to keep the story intact, while the reader supplies the imaginative potential required to power the whole system. The author is just a convenient pair of hands for typing the story out.
** Like [[WorldOfWeirdness most things in this universe]], though, this isn't always entirely consistent. Characters occasionally speak of their authors as though they were directing their actions (or in Emperor Zhark's case, [[CreatorBacklash threatening his existence]]) and the problems caused by Hamlet's absence from his play could only be solved by Shakespeare himself [[spoiler:(or his clone). This becomes even more odd when you remember that according to The Eyre Affair Shakespeare did not actually write the plays, they were just handed to him to be published.]].

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* WritersSuck / TakeThatUs: WritersSuck: Due to the way fiction is in this world, the least important person involved in storytelling is the '''author''', the '''author'''. The spark of inspiration is generated spontaneously by the universe itself, the [=BookWorld=] characters act out the story and maintain the infrastructure required to keep the story intact, while the reader supplies the imaginative potential required to power the whole system. The author is just a convenient pair of hands for typing the story out.
** Like [[WorldOfWeirdness most things in this universe]], though, this isn't always entirely consistent. Characters occasionally speak of their authors as though they were directing their actions (or in Emperor Zhark's case, [[CreatorBacklash threatening his existence]]) existence]]), and the problems caused by Hamlet's absence from his play could only be solved by Shakespeare himself [[spoiler:(or his clone). This becomes even more odd when you remember that according to The ''The Eyre Affair Affair'' Shakespeare did not actually write the plays, they were just handed to him to be published.]].
16th Jun '16 9:37:50 AM flightofthegodshawk
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*** This becomes a BrickJoke in ''One of Our Thursdays is Missing'' when written!Thursday visits the jurisfiction offices which now all have labels, including one labeled 'Old Jokes'.

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*** This becomes a BrickJoke in ''One of Our Thursdays is Missing'' when written!Thursday visits the jurisfiction Jurisfiction offices which are all now all have labels, labelled, including one labeled 'Old Jokes'.
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