History Literature / TheSundering

14th Feb '16 8:59:49 AM Satakieli
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* OrcusOnHisThrone: Justified, since Satoris has been wounded for millenniums and is not as powerful as he once was.

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* OrcusOnHisThrone: Justified, since Satoris has been wounded for millenniums millennia and is not as powerful as he once was.
22nd Jan '16 7:30:20 PM FF32
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* LeaveThePlotThreadsHanging
6th Jun '15 1:15:52 AM WillBGood
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[-(For the Creator/WalterJonWilliams novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/DreadEmpiresFall''.)-]

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[-(For the Creator/WalterJonWilliams novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/DreadEmpiresFall''.)-])-]\\
6th Jun '15 1:15:40 AM WillBGood
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-->[-(For the Creator/WalterJonWilliams novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/DreadEmpiresFall''.)-]
-->[-(For the Creator/RichardKnaak novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/TheWarOfTheAncients''.)-]

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-->[-(For [-(For the Creator/WalterJonWilliams novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/DreadEmpiresFall''.)-]
-->[-(For [-(For the Creator/RichardKnaak novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/TheWarOfTheAncients''.)-]
14th May '15 6:18:59 AM SeptimusHeap
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-->[-(For the RichardKnaak novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/TheWarOfTheAncients''.)-]

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-->[-(For the RichardKnaak Creator/RichardKnaak novel, ''The Sundering'', see ''Literature/TheWarOfTheAncients''.)-]
30th Jun '14 12:58:00 AM Fireblood
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Ushahin-who-walks-between-dusk-and-dawn
* "BigBad": Satoris
* "BigGood": Haomane
* BreakTheHaughty: Cerelinde

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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Ushahin-who-walks-between-dusk-and-dawn
Ushahin-who-walks-between-dusk-and-dawn.
* "BigBad": Satoris
Satoris.
* "BigGood": Haomane
Haomane.
* BreakTheHaughty: CerelindeCerelinde.



* CoDragons: Tanaros, Ushahin, and Vorax

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* CoDragons: Tanaros, Ushahin, and VoraxVorax.



* {{Deconstruction}}: of the EvilOverlord trope and Tolkienist fantasy as a whole

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* {{Deconstruction}}: of Of the EvilOverlord trope and Tolkienist Tolkienesque fantasy as a wholewhole.



* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:Lilias]]

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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:Lilias]][[spoiler:Lilias.]]



* FiveManBand: Malthus' Company
** MentorArchetype: Malthus
** TheLancer: Blaise Caveros
** TheBigGuy: Hobard
** TheSmartGuy: Peldras
** TheChick: Fianna
** SixthRanger: Dani, Thulu, and Carfax

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* FiveManBand: Malthus' Company
Company.
** MentorArchetype: Malthus
Malthus.
** TheLancer: Blaise Caveros
Caveros.
** TheBigGuy: Hobard
Hobard.
** TheSmartGuy: Peldras
Peldras.
** TheChick: Fianna
Fianna.
** SixthRanger: Dani, Thulu, and CarfaxCarfax.



** Fairies: Were
** High Men: Ellylon
** Stout: Fjelltroll
** Mundane: Men
** Cute: Dwarves

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** Fairies: Were
Were.
** High Men: Ellylon
Ellylon.
** Stout: Fjelltroll
Fjelltroll.
** Mundane: Men
Men.
** Cute: DwarvesDwarves.



* HalfHumanHybrid: Ushahin Dreamspinner is the result of a rape of an Ellyl woman by a human man.

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* HalfHumanHybrid: Ushahin Dreamspinner is the result of a the rape of an Ellyl woman by a human man.



* IfICantHaveYou: Tanaros to his unfaithful wife
* ImmortalProcreationClause: Justified for the Ellylon, since they have no sex drive. This trope could have been averted had Haomane, creator of the Ellylon, accepted the Gift of Satoris for his children.

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* IfICantHaveYou: Tanaros to his unfaithful wife
wife.
* ImmortalProcreationClause: Justified {{Justified}} for the Ellylon, since they have no sex drive. This trope could have been averted had Haomane, creator of the Ellylon, accepted the Gift of Satoris for his children.



* MurderTheHypotenuse: Tanaros succeeds the first time, but fails on the second
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Satoris Banewreaker the Sunderer

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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Tanaros succeeds the first time, but fails on the second
second.
* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Satoris Banewreaker the SundererSunderer.



** Actually averted on a couple of points; The Dwarves as mentioned above are an ActualPacifist race, and they are also more closely associated with orchards and fruit than the usual Dwarven mines.

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** Actually averted on a couple of points; The the Dwarves as mentioned above are an ActualPacifist race, and they are also more closely associated with orchards and fruit than the usual Dwarven mines.



* PoorCommunicationKills: Brutally justified, because the "heroes" think the "villains" are {{Consummate Liar}}s, and don't realize that if they just ignored the prophecy that the "villains" would just leave them alone.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: Brutally justified, because the "heroes" think the "villains" are {{Consummate Liar}}s, {{consummate liar}}s, and don't realize that if they just ignored the prophecy that the "villains" would just leave them alone.



* PropheciesAreAlwaysRight: Subverted. While all the conditions for the end result of the prophecy are fulfilled, [[spoiler:Ushahin stealing Godslayer prevents the actual end result from taking place]], meaning that the prophecy's end result was averted for a reason that had absolutely nothing to do with the necessary conditions the prophecy mentioned, and that all attempts to fulfill or avert those conditions was pointless.

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* PropheciesAreAlwaysRight: Subverted. {{Subverted}}. While all the conditions for the end result of the prophecy are fulfilled, [[spoiler:Ushahin stealing Godslayer prevents the actual end result from taking place]], meaning that the prophecy's end result was averted for a reason that had absolutely nothing to do with the necessary conditions the prophecy mentioned, and that all attempts to fulfill or avert those conditions was were pointless.



** TheEmperor: Satoris
** General: Tanaros Caveros
** Guard: Vorax
** Oddball: Ushahin

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** TheEmperor: Satoris
Satoris.
** General: Tanaros Caveros
Caveros.
** Guard: Vorax
Vorax.
** Oddball: UshahinUshahin.



** Haomane and Satoris -> Arahila (in this case a sibling version)
** Tanaros -> Callista -> Roscorus Altorus
** Meara -> Tanaros -> Cerelinde -> Aracus Altorus
** Carfax -> Fianna -> Blaise

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** Haomane and Satoris -> Arahila (in this case a sibling version)
version).
** Tanaros -> Callista -> Roscorus Altorus
Altorus.
** Meara -> Tanaros -> Cerelinde -> Aracus Altorus
Altorus.
** Carfax -> Fianna -> BlaiseBlaise.



* VainSorceress: Lilias, and she knows it

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* VainSorceress: Lilias, and she knows itit.



* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: and Ellyl life, and Fjeltroll life, and Were life

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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: and And Ellyl life, and Fjeltroll life, and Were lifelife.



* WomanScorned: Meara

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* WomanScorned: MearaMeara.



* YouWouldntBelieveMeIfIToldYou: Inverted. The "villains" never get very far in explaining their side of things to the "heroes" without being faced with disbelief or being called liars.

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* YouWouldntBelieveMeIfIToldYou: Inverted.{{Inverted}}. The "villains" never get very far in explaining their side of things to the "heroes" without being faced with disbelief or being called liars.
12th Nov '13 12:55:39 PM wrybread
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** Actually averted on a couple of points; The Dwarves as mentioned above are an ActualPacifist race, and they are also more closely associated with orchards and fruit than the usual Dwarven mines.
12th Nov '13 5:09:36 AM DocLoki
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* ColdSniper: Fianna is an archer, but otherwise plays the trope straight.
31st Jul '13 6:48:38 PM Umi
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''The Sundering'' is a fantasy duology by Creator/JacquelineCarey, better known for her series ''KushielsLegacy''. The two books are ''Banewreaker'' (2004) and ''Godslayer'' (2005).

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''The Sundering'' is a fantasy duology by Creator/JacquelineCarey, better known for her series ''KushielsLegacy''.''Literature/KushielsLegacy''. The two books are ''Banewreaker'' (2004) and ''Godslayer'' (2005).
18th Jun '13 4:40:27 PM shiro_okami
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* ActualPacifist: Contrary to their usual stereotype, the Dwarves. They eventually try their hand at war and are victorious in a skirmish, but are so horrified that they leave the battlefield and tend to the wounded for the rest of the battle.


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* DoomedMoralVictor: Satoris, sort of. After treating Cerelinde well as his "guest", he eventually lets her [[spoiler:kill him]] (for the sake of the prophecy) without provocation, thus robbing her and her side of their claim to a moral high ground. Only after this does she consider the possibility that Satoris might be telling the truth, but by then it's too late.


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* ShaggyDogStory: Even after all the effort Haomane's Allies put into fulfilling the prophecy they still don't get what they want, meaning that they basically [[spoiler:killed Satoris]] for nothing.


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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: and Ellyl life, and Fjeltroll life, and Were life
* [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Why Don't You Just Kill Her?]]: Both Ushahin and Vorax say this to Satoris, [[spoiler:and eventually try to do it themselves]]. According to Satoris, it would not matter anyways since supposedly she is not the only female descendant of Elterrion and therefore killing her would only delay the prophecy, not prevent it.
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