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29th Dec '16 12:17:03 PM MaulMachine
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* StormingTheCastle: The Valarian siege of Utumno. They won, but at a very high cost.

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* StormingTheCastle: The Valarian siege of Utumno. They won, but at a very high cost. (What the cost ''was'' is not known, since there were no people present who couldn't simply reincarnate back in Mandos' halls.)
27th Nov '16 9:50:52 AM valar55
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* ''Ainulindalë'' (the Music of the Ainur): Eru Ilúvatar, the omnipotent and omniscient (i.e. [[Literature/TheBible biblical]]) {{God}},[[labelnote:*]]his names in Elvish mean "the One, the All-father"[[/labelnote]] inspires and directs the Ainur (angels) to sing a "Great Music", through which the universe is created, and history itself playing out as a manifestation of its meanings.

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* ''Ainulindalë'' (the Music of the Ainur): Eru Ilúvatar, the omnipotent and omniscient (i.e. [[Literature/TheBible biblical]]) {{God}},[[labelnote:*]]his {{God}},[[note]]his names in Elvish mean "the One, the All-father"[[/labelnote]] All-father"[[/note]] inspires and directs the Ainur (angels) to sing a "Great Music", through which the universe is created, and history itself playing out as a manifestation of its meanings.
27th Oct '16 5:44:42 PM dlchen145
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* {{Badass}}: Loads of them.
** Morgoth. Come on, he's the literal {{God of Evil}}, and was once stronger than the entirety of the Valar ''put together''. He got significantly weaker as time went on, but at the outset, he was a paragon rebel who wanted to bring what was basically Heaven under his control once he felt betrayed and outmatched by Eru.
** Húrin, when he was captured by Morgoth's forces, killed seventy trolls and chopped the hand off every Orc that tried to grab him. He was only captured after he got pinned down by the weight of his maimed enemies. When you're so much of a nuisance that the [[SatanicArchetype equivalent of Satan]] curses your family to go through horrible hardships and forces you to watch the whole thing, you know you're badass. In-universe, Húrin is considered the most powerful mortal warrior in all of Arda's history. Indeed, depending which version of the legendarium you favor, it's possible that his son Túrin is destined to actually [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu kill Morgoth]] in the Last Battle.
** Ungoliant the giant spider, who drank the life out of the sacred Two Trees, ''nearly ate'' the SatanicArchetype himself and was the mother of the other bane of arachnophobes' lives when reading (and, especially, watching) [=LotR=], Shelob.
** '''Fëanor'''. He engaged ''how'' many Balrogs during a single battle?[[labelnote:*]]between three and seven[[/labelnote]] And never mind his crafting the Silmarils... so valuable that Morgoth (the [[SatanicArchetype equivalent of Satan]]) wanted to steal them. He made the Silmarils basically out of pure willpower alone, after which not even he was sure how he did it. He engaged [[RoaringRampageofRevenge as many Balrogs as he could,]] including their lord Gothmog. And he did it alone because he literally [[SelfDestructiveCharge ran ahead of his army]], [[UnstoppableRage full of rage.]] And this was right after Morgoth's forces had attacked the Noldor in the night, almost immediately upon their arrival.
** Haleth, who held out against a massive army of Orcs without any food for a whole week, losing most of her family and a massive disadvantage in numbers. To top it all off she led her people through near lethal conditions with sheer willpower.
** [[spoiler:King Finrod Felagund]], who killed a werewolf with his bare hands and teeth, after having been in chains and starving in a dungeon for who-knows-how-many-weeks, and breaking his chains by raw strength.
** Fingolfin, who [[CombatByChampion challenged Morgoth himself to single combat]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome wounded him seriously]] before being killed, even stabbing him square in the foot so he always had a limp afterward. To put this in perspective, this is the same '''god''' of all evil, who is described as driving powerful spirits insane just by looking at his eyes. He also rode hundreds of miles into a land full of powerful enemies alone, and they all ran in fear because they mistook him for a god. He arrives at Angband, and challenges Morgoth, and Morgoth ''hesitates.'' Fingolfin literally faced [[SatanicArchetype the Satan of this world]] in single combat and Satan was actually '''''afraid of losing'''''. Fingolfin got knocked to the ground three times from Morgoth, a ''giant'' compared to him, but still kept getting up. He didn't hear no bell. Oh, and every time he got a hit on Morgoth? Morgoth screamed so loudly and so horribly that ''his entire army trembled in fear''.
** And just after this Thorondor, Lord Of Eagles, swooped down, raked Morgoth across the eyes and then stole Fingolfin's body before Morgoth could defile it. Music/BlindGuardian's HeavyMithril song "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=320Te91vWnY&feature=related Time Stands Still]]" is [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome devoted to that fight]].
** Sauron. Not the Lord of the Rings yet, but still quite the badass. Not only was he a Maiar that had magical abilities ''stronger'' than that of even some Valar, but he was also one of the most intelligent and persuasive fellows in the history of Arda. He could knock out the most powerful sorceress in Middle-earth ''just by the force of his hatred alone'', he could conjure up songs of power that were unmatched, and he could turn himself into a ''gigantic werewolf''. He also had a pretty badass {{Last Stand}} too during the War of the Last Alliance. His heavily-outnumbered force held off the combined army of the ''entire West'' for over a year, and when he did finally come out of his fortress himself, he singlehandedly destroyed the Alliance sieging force, drove them back to the slopes of Orodruin, killed ''both'' leaders of the Men and Elves in two-on-one combat.
** Húrin's son, Túrin, takes after his father in this regard. He kills the father of all dragons (Glaurung), becomes a living legend amongst Elves and Men, and handles one of the most powerful blades of Middle-Earth. Unfortunately, he has been BlessedWithSuck by Morgoth himself.
** Glaurung is a bit of a Badass in his own right: aside from apparently spawning every dragon after him, he sacks a town before he's supposed to, sacks at least one other along with a troup of Orcs from whom he then denies any pickings in gold or jewellery, plays hypnotic mindgames with Túrin and Niënor, causing (further) madness in the former and amnesia in the latter, poisons at least two rivers, kills Túrin's friend Hunthor without even meaning to, nearly, in dying, kills Túrin himself with his toxic blood and then is arguably instrumental in causing the man's suicide having unmistakably caused the suicide of his lover Niënor. Pure Evil Badassery!
** Beren and Lúthien. They set out to steal Morgoth's most treasured possession, which he keeps on his person, from the middle of his fortress [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom of doom]] and ''succeed''. Not even the sons of Feanor, some of the strongest elves to ever exist, who came from the Valinor, where the angels/gods live, could break in to the fortress of Angband. Beren and Lúthien (and Huan) do this by themselves. All over what amounts to a ''bet''.
-->''And Thingol answered: "What of your quest, and of your vow?"\\
But Beren said: "It is fulfilled. [[ExactWords Even now a Silmaril is in my hand.]]"''
** And, Thingol himself. While he's not seen doing much, he led the hunt for Carcharoth (the greatest wolf that ever lived, as said below) and led the First Battle of Beleriand. Tolkien said of Thingol: "mightiest of the Eldar save Fëanor only." You see Fingolfin up there? Thingol could kick his ASS. Oh, and he spent his free time boinking an angel. Not to mention that without Thingol, Beren & Lúthien's quest would never have begun.
** Gothmog, the first Balrog and the Marshal of Morgoth's armies. He was responsible for single-handedly slaying many of Arda's finest warriors in combat, and when he does finally meet his end at the hands of Ecthelion, considered one of the finest warriors of the Noldori, he smashes his arm to pieces, breaks his heraldic shield, and is only killed when Ecthelion suicide-rushes him with the spike of his helmet. He ''kills Ecthelion'' simultaneously.
** The House of Finwë in general.
** The Battle of ''[[LastStand Nírnaeth Arnoediad]]'', Unnumbered Tears, the scene of many acts of badassery as Maedhros' alliance fight Morgoth's forces. Húrin's fight with the trolls (mentioned above) was the last part of this. Also noteworthy is the Dwarf lord Azaghâl's going one-on-one with Glaurung.
** Nerdanel, for accomplishing the impossible: for a time, ''Fëanor listened to her.'' She also bore him seven sons; this is a very big deal if you're an elf -- few have more than four, as it is so draining for them, even more than for humans. And these are ''Fëanor's'' kids we're talking about. No elf ever had as many kids as them.
** Eärendil. [[HalfHumanHybrid Half-Human and half-Elf]], he is the ancestor of Elrond, Elros, Elladan, Elrohir and Aragorn, all serious Badasses. That and the fact that in least one version of the Silmarillion, he finds and casually slaughters Ungoliant, a creature which nearly '''ate''' Morgoth. He turns up in the final battle of the War of Wrath in a ''flying ship'', killing the greatest of the Dragons, Ancalagon the Black. He also wears on his brow a Silmaril which is the morning/evening star. The guy is a walking CrowningMomentOfAwesome!
** Ar-Pharazôn the Golden. The last king of Númenor, who wanted no less than the overlordship of the whole world, who vanguished Sauron the DarkLord, and who then declared war on the Valar--the ''gods themselves''. Well, he found out he'd bitten off more than he could chew with that one.
** Maedhros, who recovered from decades of torment by Morgoth to "wield his sword with his left hand more deadly than his right had been." During battle, the orcs fled from him in terror. He also managed to survive to the end of the First Age, which is pretty much a feat in itself. Plus, he's eight feet tall. Picking a fight with this guy certainly spells trouble.
** Dior, who managed to kill Celegorm, Caranthir, and Curufin during his last stand in Doriath.
** Ecthelion of the Fountain, a lord of Gondolin. In one version of the Silmarillion, he personally killed three ''Balrogs''. Oh, and he also killed Gothmog, the ''lord of the Balrogs'' (and was himself killed in that fight).



* BashBrothers: Túrin fights with a sword and has a cool dragon-topped helmet, and Beleg is pretty {{Badass}} with bow and arrow, hence his title "Cúthalion", meaning "Strongbow". Together they gain renown as the Two Captains and the land they hold becomes known as Dor-Cúarthol, meaning the Land of Helm and Bow.

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* BashBrothers: Túrin fights with a sword and has a cool dragon-topped helmet, and Beleg is pretty {{Badass}} badass with bow and arrow, hence his title "Cúthalion", meaning "Strongbow". Together they gain renown as the Two Captains and the land they hold becomes known as Dor-Cúarthol, meaning the Land of Helm and Bow.



*** Túrin Turambar, a {{Badass}} AntiHero DoomMagnet who was armed with a black sword and armor.

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*** Túrin Turambar, a {{Badass}} badass AntiHero DoomMagnet who was armed with a black sword and armor.



** Having been captured by Morgoth, Maedhros, the eldest son of Fëanor, was rescued from his torment on Thangorodrim [[LifeOrLimbDecision by having his right hand cut off]]. Once he got healed up, he became an even more BadAss sword-fighter with his left hand such that when Orcs had to face him in battle they would flee in terror (of course, this probably had to do with the fact that Maedhros was a BadAss who had made it OutOfTheInferno).
** Beren (Erchamion, meaning one-hand), also lost a hand; it was bitten off by the greatest (were)-wolf in the history of the world. He does some stuff afterwards, but admittedly most of his physical BadAss achievements were done before that happened, or after he literally came BackFromTheDead (presumably with two hands).

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** Having been captured by Morgoth, Maedhros, the eldest son of Fëanor, was rescued from his torment on Thangorodrim [[LifeOrLimbDecision by having his right hand cut off]]. Once he got healed up, he became an even more BadAss badass sword-fighter with his left hand such that when Orcs had to face him in battle they would flee in terror (of course, this probably had to do with the fact that Maedhros was a BadAss Badass who had made it OutOfTheInferno).
** Beren (Erchamion, meaning one-hand), also lost a hand; it was bitten off by the greatest (were)-wolf in the history of the world. He does some stuff afterwards, but admittedly most of his physical BadAss achievements were done before that happened, or after he literally came BackFromTheDead (presumably with two hands).



* HeroKiller: Though Tolkien writes plenty of {{Badass}} Heroes, a common theme throughout his literature is facing impossible odds, and often [[BittersweetEnding dying in the process]]. As such, there are Hero Killers a-plenty in The Silmarillion, on ''both'' sides of Good and Evil.

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* HeroKiller: Though Tolkien writes plenty of {{Badass}} badass Heroes, a common theme throughout his literature is facing impossible odds, and often [[BittersweetEnding dying in the process]]. As such, there are Hero Killers a-plenty in The Silmarillion, on ''both'' sides of Good and Evil.



* LastStand: [[YouShallNotPass Acting as the rearguard]] for Turgon and the companies of Gondolin who are trying to escape the Nírnaeth Arnoediad both safely and secretly, Húrin and his people hold the Fens of Serech again a monstrous onslaught of enemies for days on end, killing so many that eventually the Orcs bridge the river ''with their own dead''. The group, consisting of almost the entirety of the menfolk of the House of Hador do this knowing full well that they cannot survive but defying the heck out of Morgoth because that's just how BadAss they are; for further reference on Húrin's personal LastStand you may be directed to the entry on this page for Badass.

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* LastStand: [[YouShallNotPass Acting as the rearguard]] for Turgon and the companies of Gondolin who are trying to escape the Nírnaeth Arnoediad both safely and secretly, Húrin and his people hold the Fens of Serech again a monstrous onslaught of enemies for days on end, killing so many that eventually the Orcs bridge the river ''with their own dead''. The group, consisting of almost the entirety of the menfolk of the House of Hador do this knowing full well that they cannot survive but defying the heck out of Morgoth because that's just how BadAss badass they are; for further reference on Húrin's personal LastStand you may be directed to the entry on this page for Badass.are.



* NonActionGuy: Brandir, called "the Lame," because of a crippling childhood injury. He is shown in stark contrast to the martial and HotBlooded [[BadAss Túrin]].

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* NonActionGuy: Brandir, called "the Lame," because of a crippling childhood injury. He is shown in stark contrast to the martial and HotBlooded [[BadAss Túrin]].Túrin.
19th Oct '16 4:14:03 PM MasterGhandalf
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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven). ''Beren and L&uacute:thien'' is [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/19/jrr-tolkien-beren-and-luthien-2017 also to be released in book form in 2017]].

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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven). ''Beren and L&uacute:thien'' Lúthien'' is [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/19/jrr-tolkien-beren-and-luthien-2017 also to be released in book form in 2017]].
19th Oct '16 4:13:41 PM MasterGhandalf
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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven). ''Beren and Luthien'' is [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/19/jrr-tolkien-beren-and-luthien-2017 also to be released in book form in 2017]].

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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven). ''Beren and Luthien'' L&uacute:thien'' is [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/19/jrr-tolkien-beren-and-luthien-2017 also to be released in book form in 2017]].
19th Oct '16 2:10:44 PM MasterGhandalf
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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven)

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** The chapter "Of Túrin Turambar" is further elaborated in the book ''Literature/TheChildrenOfHurin'' (named ''Narn i-Chîn Húrin'' in Sindarin, or Grey Elven)Elven). ''Beren and Luthien'' is [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/19/jrr-tolkien-beren-and-luthien-2017 also to be released in book form in 2017]].
21st Sep '16 6:30:45 AM morane
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* HairTriggerTemper: Fëanor and his seven sons, with possible exception on Maglor.
16th Sep '16 10:34:41 AM Daethalion
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** Fingolfin, who [[CombatByChampion challenged Morgoth himself to single combat]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome wounded him seriously]] before being killed, even stabbing him square in the foot so he always had a limp afterward. To put this in perspective, this is the same '''god''' of all evil, who is described as driving powerful spirits insane just by looking at his eyes. He also rode hundreds of miles into a land full of powerful enemies alone, and they all ran in fear because they mistook him for a god. He arrives at Angband, and challenges Morgoth, and Morgoth ''hesitates.'' Fingolfin literally faced [[SatanicArchetype the Satan of this world]] in single combat and Satan was actually '''''afraid of losing'''''. Fingolfin got knocked to the ground three times from Morgoth, a ''giant'' compared to him, but still kept getting up. He didn't hear no bell.

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** Fingolfin, who [[CombatByChampion challenged Morgoth himself to single combat]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome wounded him seriously]] before being killed, even stabbing him square in the foot so he always had a limp afterward. To put this in perspective, this is the same '''god''' of all evil, who is described as driving powerful spirits insane just by looking at his eyes. He also rode hundreds of miles into a land full of powerful enemies alone, and they all ran in fear because they mistook him for a god. He arrives at Angband, and challenges Morgoth, and Morgoth ''hesitates.'' Fingolfin literally faced [[SatanicArchetype the Satan of this world]] in single combat and Satan was actually '''''afraid of losing'''''. Fingolfin got knocked to the ground three times from Morgoth, a ''giant'' compared to him, but still kept getting up. He didn't hear no bell. Oh, and every time he got a hit on Morgoth? Morgoth screamed so loudly and so horribly that ''his entire army trembled in fear''.
3rd Sep '16 3:26:46 AM HTD
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** Thanks to Morgoth's meddling, what the human race as a whole view their mortality as. They actively resist it where possible, and see themselves as "flawed" in some way. [[CursedWithAwesome It wasn't always so, as it's actually a Gift, not a curse from Eru (God)]], intrinsic to their design. Those who understand the gift best know it's meant to sunder their fates from Elves [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence for bigger and better things beyond imagination]].

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** Thanks to Morgoth's meddling, what the human Man race as a whole view their mortality as. They actively resist it where possible, and see themselves as "flawed" in some way. [[CursedWithAwesome It wasn't always so, as it's actually a Gift, not a curse from Eru (God)]], intrinsic to their design. Those who understand the gift best know it's meant to sunder their fates from Elves [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence for bigger and better things beyond imagination]].



** Everybody with means to do so delves one: Morgoth had Utumno and Angband, Thingol and Melian had Menegroth, Finrod had Nargothrond, the dwarves had Belegost and Nogrod, and even the Petty-Dwarves had Amon Rûdh. Only humans and wood-elves had the misfortune of lacking massive underground fortifications in which to hide when the enemy came calling.

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** Everybody with means to do so delves one: Morgoth had Utumno and Angband, Thingol and Melian had Menegroth, Finrod had Nargothrond, the dwarves had Belegost and Nogrod, and even the Petty-Dwarves had Amon Rûdh. Only humans Men and wood-elves had the misfortune of lacking massive underground fortifications in which to hide when the enemy came calling.



* EvilMakesYouUgly: It isn't a surefire thing, so don't assume BeautyEqualsGoodness or you might end up like Celebrimbor. But evil does tend to turn formerly handsome beings into freakish monsters. The orcs, bred from elves and/or humans, are apparently among the most hideous things alive (Morgoth probably made them deliberately ugly, to mock Eru). Dragons are even more repulsive, and smell gut-wrenchingly vile. Even Morgoth and Sauron, originally able to assume any shape they pleased, eventually suffered ShapeshifterModeLock as a result of their moral falls, and became stuck in shapes as outwardly horrible as their evil souls.

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* EvilMakesYouUgly: It isn't a surefire thing, so don't assume BeautyEqualsGoodness or you might end up like Celebrimbor. But evil does tend to turn formerly handsome beings into freakish monsters. The orcs, bred from elves and/or humans, Men, are apparently among the most hideous things alive (Morgoth probably made them deliberately ugly, to mock Eru). Dragons are even more repulsive, and smell gut-wrenchingly vile. Even Morgoth and Sauron, originally able to assume any shape they pleased, eventually suffered ShapeshifterModeLock as a result of their moral falls, and became stuck in shapes as outwardly horrible as their evil souls.



* FateWorseThanDeath: Ar-Pharazôn, the last king of Númenórë, and his army are ghosts buried forever under a landslide just outside Valinor, unable to rest in peace or leave the world, though human souls are designed to leave and remaining forever eventually becomes unbearable torment. One wonders if he'll have learned his lesson about immortality by the time the world ends.

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* FateWorseThanDeath: Ar-Pharazôn, the last king of Númenórë, and his army are ghosts buried forever under a landslide just outside Valinor, unable to rest in peace or leave the world, though human Man souls are designed to leave and remaining forever eventually becomes unbearable torment. One wonders if he'll have learned his lesson about immortality by the time the world ends.



* {{God}}: Eru Ilúvatar. It should be noted that despite being based on the Christian God, Eru is different in some ways -- he mediated the creation of the Universe through demiurges/angels (the Ainur), created two sentient races (Elves and Men), and intended for the human race to be mortal (rather than giving them mortality as punishment for the Fall). This is called the [[BlessedWithSuck Gift of Ilúvatar]]. Also, he generally avoids intervening in the Universe directly, allowing the Valar to run things.

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* {{God}}: Eru Ilúvatar. It should be noted that despite being based on the Christian God, Eru is different in some ways -- he mediated the creation of the Universe through demiurges/angels (the Ainur), created two sentient races (Elves and Men), and intended for the human Man race to be mortal (rather than giving them mortality as punishment for the Fall). This is called the [[BlessedWithSuck Gift of Ilúvatar]]. Also, he generally avoids intervening in the Universe directly, allowing the Valar to run things.



* HumanMomNonhumanDad: Inverted in all cases of mixed-race parentage: The father is always the more "mundane", the mother the more "exotic" parent (e.g. several human/elf and one elf/divine spirit couple).

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* HumanMomNonhumanDad: Inverted in all cases of mixed-race parentage: The father is always the more "mundane", the mother the more "exotic" parent (e.g. several human/elf Man/Elf and one elf/divine spirit Elf/Maia couple).



* HumansAreWarriors: An almost straight out version of this trope. When elves first meet humans, they are [[TheMigration refugees]] from Morgoth's land where they had to [[FightingForAHomeland fight to survive]] against [[EverythingIsTryingToKillYou everything]] in the region. Elves, on noticing how tough humans were and how quickly they breed are glad to have them as allies, and give them land in a [[TheAlliance treaty]]. Though a variation is that elves did not consider humans ''better'' warriors than elves or dwarves for that matter. They just considered humans tough enough and better breeders, thus increasing the depleted supply of [[WeHaveReserves reserves]]. It ''is'' possible for humans to be physically stronger than Elves, though. Túrin, when he is ambushed by [[{{Jerkass}} Saeros]], is described as "stronger than any Elf." Elves usually have the advantages of experience, endurance, and occasionally magic (in the case of Elves like Finrod Felagund or Lúthien), rather than pure strength.

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* HumansAreWarriors: An almost straight out version of this trope. When elves first meet humans, Men, they are [[TheMigration refugees]] from Morgoth's land where they had to [[FightingForAHomeland fight to survive]] against [[EverythingIsTryingToKillYou everything]] in the region. Elves, on noticing how tough humans Men were and how quickly they breed are glad to have them as allies, and give them land in a [[TheAlliance treaty]]. Though a variation is that elves did not consider humans Men ''better'' warriors than elves or dwarves for that matter. They just considered humans Men tough enough and better breeders, thus increasing the depleted supply of [[WeHaveReserves reserves]]. It ''is'' possible for humans Men to be physically stronger than Elves, though. Túrin, when he is ambushed by [[{{Jerkass}} Saeros]], is described as "stronger than any Elf." Elves usually have the advantages of experience, endurance, and occasionally magic (in the case of Elves like Finrod Felagund or Lúthien), rather than pure strength.



* ImAHumanitarian: Werewolves eat people. Melkor hand-feeds Carcharoth with elvish and human flesh, yet the most chilling example has to be the werewolf that came back again and again to drag away and eat Beren's companions, one by one, until only he and Finrod were left.

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* ImAHumanitarian: Werewolves eat people. Melkor hand-feeds Carcharoth with elvish and human Man flesh, yet the most chilling example has to be the werewolf that came back again and again to drag away and eat Beren's companions, one by one, until only he and Finrod were left.



** Amandil and Ar-Pharazôn, who befriended each other when Ar-Pharazôn was a boy. Also, any friendship between an Elf and a human (such as Beleg and Túrin, and Tuor and Voronwë) technically counts, as the Elf is nearly always decades or centuries older.

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** Amandil and Ar-Pharazôn, who befriended each other when Ar-Pharazôn was a boy. Also, any friendship between an Elf and a human Man (such as Beleg and Túrin, and Tuor and Voronwë) technically counts, as the Elf is nearly always decades or centuries older.



** Haleth was a human chieftainess and a very fearsome one.

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** Haleth was a human Man chieftainess and a very fearsome one.



** At some points it's mentioned that the Noldor use crystals filled with light as energy-efficient light bulbs when going into dark places, a (magi)tech humans haven't quite mastered. Indeed, their inventor Fëanor didn't share the secret formula with anyone before his death.

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** At some points it's mentioned that the Noldor use crystals filled with light as energy-efficient light bulbs when going into dark places, a (magi)tech humans Men haven't quite mastered. Indeed, their inventor Fëanor didn't share the secret formula with anyone before his death.



* MayflyDecemberRomance: Averted with Beren and Lúthien (and they worked hard to avert it.) Somewhat subverted with Aegnor (an elf) and Andreth (a human woman): he fears that she will grow old while he doesn't, or (quite rightly) that he will die in battle before she does. They never marry.

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* MayflyDecemberRomance: Averted with Beren and Lúthien (and they worked hard to avert it.) Somewhat subverted with Aegnor (an elf) and Andreth (a human Mannish woman): he fears that she will grow old while he doesn't, or (quite rightly) that he will die in battle before she does. They never marry.



* OurElvesAreBetter: Very much not, [[TheThemeParkVersion even if many people mistakenly think so]]. Yes, Elves are in many ways more powerful, "magical" and skilled than humans (they better be as they got long enough to practice), but they can be just as stupid, chauvinist, or violent as any human, and can screw up monumentally. Possibly ''more'' than humans in fact, as their greater power lets them screw up more dramatically and cause more damage. Elves have more control over their bodies than humans, and thus are less inclined toward mundane sins like {{Lust}} and [[VillainousGlutton Gluttony]] and {{Sloth}}, but can fall to {{Wrath}} or {{Pride}} just as humans can. In other words, when an elf becomes evil it is not because he lacks willpower; it is because he actually ''intends'' to do so. Elves are more "in-tune" with the physical world than Mortal Men, since they are a permanent part of it. As such, they seem to feel things more intensely than Mortals, and as a consequence their errors in judgment can be far more damaging. Their peaks and valleys are more like mountains and canyons. An angry Elf is a PersonOfMassDestruction. A sad Elf can literally die of a broken heart.

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* OurElvesAreBetter: Very much not, [[TheThemeParkVersion even if many people mistakenly think so]]. Yes, Elves are in many ways more powerful, "magical" and skilled than humans Men (they better be as they got long enough to practice), but they can be just as stupid, chauvinist, or violent as any human, Man, and can screw up monumentally. Possibly ''more'' than humans Men in fact, as their greater power lets them screw up more dramatically and cause more damage. Elves have more control over their bodies than humans, Men, and thus are less inclined toward mundane sins like {{Lust}} and [[VillainousGlutton Gluttony]] and {{Sloth}}, but can fall to {{Wrath}} or {{Pride}} just as humans Men can. In other words, when an elf becomes evil it is not because he lacks willpower; it is because he actually ''intends'' to do so. Elves are more "in-tune" with the physical world than Mortal Men, since they are a permanent part of it. As such, they seem to feel things more intensely than Mortals, and as a consequence their errors in judgment can be far more damaging. Their peaks and valleys are more like mountains and canyons. An angry Elf is a PersonOfMassDestruction. A sad Elf can literally die of a broken heart.



* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They appear to be not undead humans, but rather a specific class of Maia, or perhaps mutated animals. Only one is named, Thuringwethil, Sauron's messenger, and only it's mentioned that she can take the form of a bat.
* OurWerewolvesAreDifferent: Like dragons, they are demonic spirits in animal bodies/shapes, not "infected" humans. They apparently are not shapeshifters, always resembling huge talking wolves, but the text never clarifies. Sauron was their lord in the First Age.

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* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They appear to be not undead humans, undead, but rather a specific class of Maia, or perhaps mutated animals. Only one is named, Thuringwethil, Sauron's messenger, and only it's mentioned that she can take the form of a bat.
* OurWerewolvesAreDifferent: Like dragons, they are demonic spirits in animal bodies/shapes, not "infected" humans.Men. They apparently are not shapeshifters, always resembling huge talking wolves, but the text never clarifies. Sauron was their lord in the First Age.



* PhysicalHeaven: Valinor, the Western Blessed Realm of the Valar and Maiar. While no part of Arda can be wholly free of the corruption Morgoth forced into it, the Blessed Realm comes closest to what Eru intended Arda to be. There is no disease, no decay, no corruption or poison. Animals and plants there never age.[[labelnote:*]]Questions about how such an ecosystem could function [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief are best avoided.]][[/labelnote]]Everything is vastly more beautiful and lively than anything in Middle-Earth. Elves there can experience a world where everything they love ''doesn't'' age and die in a miniscule fraction of their lifespan. WordOfGod is that mortal humans would eventually find it unpleasant, however, and living there [[BodyHorror would]] [[WasOnceAMan not]] [[TheUndead end]] [[DrivenToSuicide well]]. Thus humans are banned from Valinor itself, by orders of Eru.

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* PhysicalHeaven: Valinor, the Western Blessed Realm of the Valar and Maiar. While no part of Arda can be wholly free of the corruption Morgoth forced into it, the Blessed Realm comes closest to what Eru intended Arda to be. There is no disease, no decay, no corruption or poison. Animals and plants there never age.[[labelnote:*]]Questions about how such an ecosystem could function [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief are best avoided.]][[/labelnote]]Everything is vastly more beautiful and lively than anything in Middle-Earth. Elves there can experience a world where everything they love ''doesn't'' age and die in a miniscule fraction of their lifespan. WordOfGod is that mortal humans Men would eventually find it unpleasant, however, and living there [[BodyHorror would]] [[WasOnceAMan not]] [[TheUndead end]] [[DrivenToSuicide well]]. Thus humans Men are banned from Valinor itself, by orders of Eru.



* RageHelm: The Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost were known for wearing hideous and frightening masks in combat. The Dragon Helm of Dor-lómin was originally a dwarven helmet worn by Azaghâl, Lord of Belegost. He gave it to Maedhros as a gift when they became allies, and Maedhros passed it on to his friend Fingon. However, the helm was simply too damn heavy for any elf to wear it comfortably. Eventually, Fingon gave it to the human chieftain Hador, when Hador became Lord of Dor-lómin, and it became an heirloom of his house.

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* RageHelm: The Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost were known for wearing hideous and frightening masks in combat. The Dragon Helm of Dor-lómin was originally a dwarven helmet worn by Azaghâl, Lord of Belegost. He gave it to Maedhros as a gift when they became allies, and Maedhros passed it on to his friend Fingon. However, the helm was simply too damn heavy for any elf to wear it comfortably. Eventually, Fingon gave it to the human Mannish chieftain Hador, when Hador became Lord of Dor-lómin, and it became an heirloom of his house.



** [[StarCrossedLovers Tragic lovers]] Beren and Lúthien are separated and reunited in death, twice! Special because, being a human and an elf, they would not have had the same fate after death (elves are bound to the world for as long as it lasts whereas humans are fated to leave it forever after a short while), but, through divine intervention, got the one exception. After their first death they were sent back for a short time to live a happy life together, and after their second death Lúthien's spirit was allowed to follow Beren's out of this world, as human souls do.

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** [[StarCrossedLovers Tragic lovers]] Beren and Lúthien are separated and reunited in death, twice! Special because, being a human Man and an elf, they would not have had the same fate after death (elves are bound to the world for as long as it lasts whereas humans Men are fated to leave it forever after a short while), but, through divine intervention, got the one exception. After their first death they were sent back for a short time to live a happy life together, and after their second death Lúthien's spirit was allowed to follow Beren's out of this world, as human Man souls do.



* WeAreAsMayflies: The longest-lived humans get a couple hundred years. Elves can go on until ''the end of the world'', though they become increasingly "faded"/ghostlike with the passage of time, if they remain outside the Undying Realms. No mortal ever enters the Undying Realms; a few are granted a refuge on the Lonely Isle right outside it, but even those mortals who arrive by invitation (like Frodo) remain mortal and eventually die. Eärendil's father Tuor is the only pure human ''implied'' to become immortal without suffering undeath or a FateWorseThanDeath, and that could be {{Fan Wank}}ed as an odd sort of BalancingDeathsBooks from Eru, who'd just fairly recently made an immortal elf (Lúthien) into a mortal.\\

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* WeAreAsMayflies: The longest-lived humans Men get a couple hundred years. Elves can go on until ''the end of the world'', though they become increasingly "faded"/ghostlike with the passage of time, if they remain outside the Undying Realms. No mortal ever enters the Undying Realms; a few are granted a refuge on the Lonely Isle right outside it, but even those mortals who arrive by invitation (like Frodo) remain mortal and eventually die. Eärendil's father Tuor is the only pure human Man ''implied'' to become immortal without suffering undeath or a FateWorseThanDeath, and that could be {{Fan Wank}}ed as an odd sort of BalancingDeathsBooks from Eru, who'd just fairly recently made an immortal elf (Lúthien) into a mortal.\\



One of [[WordOfGod Tolkien's letters]] stated that it was impossible for the Valar to make any human truly immortal. If one ever entered the Undying Lands, they would ''exist'' and seemingly not age long past when they should have died, but their life would gradually become unbearable, since it would just be [[AgeWithoutYouth their natural lifespan spread out continuously]] (similar to what happened to Gollum and Bilbo with the One Ring). Also, it is said in the book that death is Eru's gift to mortals and the Valar don't have the right or ability to take it from them -- only Eru can, and Tuor was likely the only such exception. Before the fall of Númenor, Men ''were'' immortal in the sense that they could ''choose'' when to die. Since Númenor though, Eru was forced to change the gift to introduce lifespans, as Men, thanks to the corrupting influence of Sauron, started to view it as a curse.

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One of [[WordOfGod Tolkien's letters]] stated that it was impossible for the Valar to make any human Man truly immortal. If one ever entered the Undying Lands, they would ''exist'' and seemingly not age long past when they should have died, but their life would gradually become unbearable, since it would just be [[AgeWithoutYouth their natural lifespan spread out continuously]] (similar to what happened to Gollum and Bilbo with the One Ring). Also, it is said in the book that death is Eru's gift to mortals and the Valar don't have the right or ability to take it from them -- only Eru can, and Tuor was likely the only such exception. Before the fall of Númenor, Men ''were'' immortal in the sense that they could ''choose'' when to die. Since Númenor though, Eru was forced to change the gift to introduce lifespans, as Men, thanks to the corrupting influence of Sauron, started to view it as a curse.
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** Ungoliant the giant spider, who drank the life out of the sacred Two Trees, ''nearly ate'' the SatanicArchetype himself and was the mother of the other bane of arachnaphobe's lives when reading (and, especially, watching) [=LotR=], Shelob.

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** Ungoliant the giant spider, who drank the life out of the sacred Two Trees, ''nearly ate'' the SatanicArchetype himself and was the mother of the other bane of arachnaphobe's arachnophobes' lives when reading (and, especially, watching) [=LotR=], Shelob.



* BarredFromTheAfterlife: Túrin. Or rather, ''barred himself'' from the passing on from the Halls of Mandos unto Eru, which is extraordinary since Men by their design are meant to depart Arda. Due to his failures Túrin is unable to rest in peace. ''Can anyone blame him?'' Morgoth ensured he had a fairly lousy existence. It's poetic then that he is prophesied to deal the killing-blow unto Morgoth and destroy his evil-influence.

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* BarredFromTheAfterlife: Túrin. Or rather, ''barred himself'' from the passing on from the Halls of Mandos unto Eru, which is extraordinary since Men by their design are meant to depart Arda. Due to his failures Túrin is unable to rest in peace. ''Can anyone blame him?'' Morgoth ensured he had a fairly lousy existence. It's poetic then that he is prophesied to deal the killing-blow unto Morgoth and destroy his evil-influence.evil influence.



* BurningTheShips: After Fëanor and his faction of the Noldor have crossed over from Aman to Middle-earth on the ships they stole from the Teleri, Fëanor orders to burn all the ships. His motive is duplicate: He wants to prevent any of his followers from returning to Aman, but also make sure they cannot ferry the rest of the Noldor under the leadership of Fëanor's brother Fingolfin over to Middle-earth.

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* BurningTheShips: After Fëanor and his faction of the Noldor have crossed over from Aman to Middle-earth on the ships they stole from the Teleri, Fëanor orders to burn all the ships. His motive is duplicate: two-fold: He wants to prevent any of his followers from returning to Aman, but also make sure they cannot ferry the rest of the Noldor under the leadership of Fëanor's brother Fingolfin over to Middle-earth.



** The Númenórean expedition to conquer the Undying Lands. They were no match against ''the God himself''.

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** The Númenórean expedition to conquer the Undying Lands. They were no match against ''the God ''God himself''.



* FlyingDutchman: In the published (by a son of J.R.R. Tolkien) version, Maglor, one of the sons of Feanor, threw Silmaril he has stolen into the sea and possibly wanders till today singing. In the latest version by J.R.R., Maglor jumped into the sea togever with the Silmaril.

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* FlyingDutchman: In the published (by a son of J.R.R. Tolkien) version, Maglor, one of the sons of Feanor, threw the Silmaril he has he'd stolen into the sea and possibly wanders till today singing. In the Tolkien's latest version by J.R.R., versopm, Maglor jumped into the sea togever together with the Silmaril.



* FurAgainstFang: Both vampires and werewolves work for Morgoth and Sauron, but [[TeethClenchedTeamwork they can not stand each other]]. Werewolves despised vampires, considering them “rats with wings” and vampires regarded wolves like big bullies. It is more evident in the ''[[Literature/HistoryOfMiddleEarth Lay of Beren and Luthien]]'', where the meeting with [[SavageWolves Carcharoth]] makes clear that Carcharoth is shocked of seeing a vampire and a wolf together.

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* FurAgainstFang: Both vampires and werewolves work for Morgoth and Sauron, but [[TeethClenchedTeamwork they can not stand each other]]. Werewolves despised vampires, considering them “rats with wings” and vampires regarded wolves like big bullies. It is more evident in the ''[[Literature/HistoryOfMiddleEarth Lay of Beren and Luthien]]'', where the meeting with [[SavageWolves Carcharoth]] makes clear that Carcharoth is shocked of at seeing a vampire and a wolf together.



* GenderBlenderName: Annatar, Lord of Gifts. Anna is a finish female name that may or may not come from the word "antaa" (to give, or "Anna!" for an imperative). The suffix "-tar" is literally "Lady of-". And as a bonus it's Sauron masquerading as a beautiful man.
* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Ungoliant, whose origins are never clearly stated. Only in later versions she is said to be a Maia.

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* GenderBlenderName: Annatar, Lord of Gifts. Anna is a finish Finnish female name that may or may not come from the word "antaa" (to give, or "Anna!" for an imperative). The suffix "-tar" is literally "Lady of-". And as a bonus it's Sauron masquerading as a beautiful man.
* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Ungoliant, whose origins are never clearly stated. Only in later versions is she is said to be a Maia.



* KissingCousins: There are four cases of marriage between cousins of varying degrees in the family tree of the elven and half-elven royalty. This could be a feature of Teleri marriage customs, are all the involved are at least partly of Teleri descent.

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* KissingCousins: There are four cases of marriage between cousins of varying degrees in the family tree of the elven and half-elven royalty. This could be a feature of Teleri marriage customs, are as all the involved are at least partly of Teleri descent.



** Finally, 3000 years later]], Arwen marries Aragorn, her first cousin 64 times removed (descended from Elros, Elrond's twin brother).

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** Finally, 3000 years later]], later, Arwen marries Aragorn, her first cousin 64 times removed (descended from Elros, Elrond's twin brother).



** Aegnor and Andreth are a variant. Andreth died and left the world forever. When Aegnor died, he could not follow her because being an elf, his life is tied to the world's. So he refused reincarnation and decided remaining on the [[TheLifestream Halls of Mandos]] forever because being permanently dead was the closest that he could get to be together in death with Andreth.

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** Aegnor and Andreth are a variant. Andreth died and left the world forever. When Aegnor died, he could not follow her because being an elf, his life is tied to the world's. So he refused reincarnation and decided remaining on to remain in the [[TheLifestream Halls of Mandos]] forever because being permanently dead was the closest that he could get to be being together in death with Andreth.
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