History Literature / TheManWiththeIronHeart

14th Sep '17 1:12:50 AM Saveelich
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Not to be confused with ''[[Film/{{HHHH}} The Man With the Iron Heart]]'', which is a {{biopic}} of Heydrich.

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Not to be confused with ''[[Film/{{HHHH}} The Man With the Iron Heart]]'', which is a {{biopic}} of Heydrich.about Heydrich in RealLife.
14th Sep '17 1:10:39 AM Saveelich
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Not to be confused with ''[[Film/{{HHHH}} The Man With the Iron Heart]]'', which is a {{biopic}} of Heydrich.
6th Sep '17 11:21:15 PM Fireblood
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** Diana Mc Graw appears to be based on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan Cindy Sheehan]], although leading a more successful anti-occupation campaign than Sheehan.

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** Diana Mc Graw [=McGraw=] appears to be based on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan Cindy Sheehan]], although leading a more successful anti-occupation campaign than Sheehan.



* MarriedToTheJob: Diana Mc Graw becomes too involved in politics that once the occupation is over, she isn't so sure that she is satisfied in going back to being the [[StayInTheKitchen traditional housewife]] and already her marriage is close to breaking apart [[spoiler:especially when she had a brief affair with a local San Francisco politician named Marvin (whom she was disregardful of remembering his last name)]].

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* MarriedToTheJob: Diana Mc Graw [=McGraw=] becomes too involved in politics that once the occupation is over, she isn't so sure that she is satisfied in going back to being the [[StayInTheKitchen traditional housewife]] and already her marriage is close to breaking apart [[spoiler:especially when she had a brief affair with a local San Francisco politician named Marvin (whom she was so disregardful of remembering that she can't remember his last name)]].



* SympatheticPOV: Turtledove uses this nicely to avoid [[StrawmanPolitical Strawmen Political]], either for or against the war. The pro-war side is represented in particular by Weissberg, a decent and dedicated Army intelligence officer who sees the Nazis as just as much of a threat as when Hitler was still in charge, and believe that cutting and running will just lay the groundwork for WorldWarIII. Meanwhile, the other side, represented best by Diana [=McGraw=], the Cindy Sheehan {{Expy}}, and Congressman Jerry Duncan, are correct in the fact that the Truman administration doesn't seem to be doing a good job of things, and that there doesn't seem to be a plan for victory. On the one hand, Truman's predictions of rockets aimed at New York, which Duncan and [=McGraw=] dismiss as "Buck Rogers style fantasy", are, as the reader well knows, all too accurate; however, Duncan and [=McGraw=] have no way of knowing this.

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* SympatheticPOV: Turtledove uses this nicely to avoid [[StrawmanPolitical Strawmen Political]], either for or against the war. The pro-war side is represented in particular by Weissberg, a decent and dedicated Army intelligence officer who sees the Nazis as just as much of a threat as when Hitler was still in charge, and believe that cutting and running will just lay the groundwork for WorldWarIII. Meanwhile, the other side, represented best by Diana [=McGraw=], the Cindy Sheehan {{Expy}}, {{expy}}, and Congressman Jerry Duncan, are correct in the fact that the Truman administration doesn't seem to be doing a good job of things, and that there doesn't seem to be a plan for victory. On the one hand, Truman's predictions of rockets aimed at New York, which Duncan and [=McGraw=] dismiss as "Buck Rogers style fantasy", are, as the reader well knows, all too accurate; however, Duncan and [=McGraw=] have no way of knowing this.
15th Jul '17 1:34:29 PM nombretomado
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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, Heinrich Himmler is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.

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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, Heinrich Himmler is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.
14th Jul '17 6:22:11 AM Saveelich
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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.

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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] Himmler is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.
14th Jul '17 6:21:59 AM Saveelich
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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich]] to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.

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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] is convinced by UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich]] UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.
20th Jun '17 5:56:05 AM Saveelich
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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] is convinced by [[BigBad Reinhard Heydrich]] to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.

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''The Man with the Iron Heart'' is an AlternateHistory by Creator/HarryTurtledove. After the German defeat at the battle of Stalingrad, [[ThoseWackyNazis Heinrich Himmler]] is convinced by [[BigBad Reinhard Heydrich]] UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich]] to help him set up a [[TheRemnant terrorist resistance]] in case Germany loses the [[WorldWarII war]]. Once Nazi Germany loses and is occupied TheWarOnTerror begins [[RecycledInSpace in Germany]] which eventually leads to Allied troops withdrawing and leaving West Germany as a democratic, un-Denazified country where the Nazi party is now legal.
17th Apr '17 4:50:19 PM esq263
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* RecycledINSPACE: The entire premise of the story is essentially TheWarOnTerror set in post-World War II.

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* RecycledINSPACE: RecycledInSpace: The entire premise of the story is essentially TheWarOnTerror set in post-World War II.II.
* ShoutOut: At one point, Heydrich comments that "Tommorow belongs to us", a reference to the song "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" from {{Theater/Cabaret}}, which has since, in RealLife, become associated with Neo-Nazism.
5th Apr '17 7:42:05 AM esq263
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* SympatheticPOV: Turtledove uses this nicely to avoid [[StrawmanPolitical Strawmen Political]], either for or against the war. The pro-war side is represented in particular by Weissberg, a decent and dedicated Army intelligence officer who sees the Nazis as just as much of a threat as when Hitler was still in charge, and believe that cutting and running will just lay the groundwork for WorldWarIII. Meanwhile, the other side, represented best by Diana [=McGraw=], the Cindy Sheehan {{Expy}}, and Congressman Jerry Duncan, are correct in the fact that the Truman administration doesn't seem to be doing a good job of things, and that there doesn't seem to be a plan for victory. On the one hand, Truman's predictions of rockets aimed at New York, which Duncan and [=McGraw=] dismiss as "Buck Rogers style fantasy", are, as the reader well knows, all too accurate; however, Duncan and [=McGraw=} have no way of knowing this.

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* SympatheticPOV: Turtledove uses this nicely to avoid [[StrawmanPolitical Strawmen Political]], either for or against the war. The pro-war side is represented in particular by Weissberg, a decent and dedicated Army intelligence officer who sees the Nazis as just as much of a threat as when Hitler was still in charge, and believe that cutting and running will just lay the groundwork for WorldWarIII. Meanwhile, the other side, represented best by Diana [=McGraw=], the Cindy Sheehan {{Expy}}, and Congressman Jerry Duncan, are correct in the fact that the Truman administration doesn't seem to be doing a good job of things, and that there doesn't seem to be a plan for victory. On the one hand, Truman's predictions of rockets aimed at New York, which Duncan and [=McGraw=] dismiss as "Buck Rogers style fantasy", are, as the reader well knows, all too accurate; however, Duncan and [=McGraw=} [=McGraw=] have no way of knowing this.
5th Apr '17 7:41:28 AM esq263
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* SympatheticPOV: Turtledove uses this nicely to avoid [[StrawmanPolitical Strawmen Political]], either for or against the war. The pro-war side is represented in particular by Weissberg, a decent and dedicated Army intelligence officer who sees the Nazis as just as much of a threat as when Hitler was still in charge, and believe that cutting and running will just lay the groundwork for WorldWarIII. Meanwhile, the other side, represented best by Diana [=McGraw=], the Cindy Sheehan {{Expy}}, and Congressman Jerry Duncan, are correct in the fact that the Truman administration doesn't seem to be doing a good job of things, and that there doesn't seem to be a plan for victory. On the one hand, Truman's predictions of rockets aimed at New York, which Duncan and [=McGraw=] dismiss as "Buck Rogers style fantasy", are, as the reader well knows, all too accurate; however, Duncan and [=McGraw=} have no way of knowing this.
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