History Literature / TheManWhoWasThursday

3rd Jun '16 12:19:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* IncrediblyLamePun: "He will say in the most exquisite French, 'How are you?' I shall reply in the most exquisite Cockney, 'Oh, just the Syme --'"
3rd Jun '16 12:19:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* GoodColorsEvilColors: A character with red hair is ''almost'' always Good in Chesterton. Less frequently, BlondGuysAreEvil, especially if the blondness looks somehow artificial gilded. However, this novel subverts this with the honourable protagonist Syme (who is blond) and the antagonist(?) Gregory (maybe), who is red-haired.

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* GoodColorsEvilColors: A character with red hair is ''almost'' always Good in Chesterton. Less frequently, BlondGuysAreEvil, blond hair is evil, especially if the blondness looks somehow artificial gilded. However, this novel subverts this with the honourable protagonist Syme (who is blond) and the antagonist(?) Gregory (maybe), who is red-haired.
12th Mar '16 8:13:27 AM Jeduthun
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* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. Though, in fairness, [[spoiler:none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory.]]

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* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. It's pointed out that there is a distinction between a revolutionary who throws a bomb to kill a king, and an anarchist who throws a bomb to kill ''anybody''. Though, in fairness, [[spoiler:none [[spoiler:it turns out that none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory.]]
19th Jan '16 2:48:16 PM margdean56
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* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]

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* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days Days]] ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]
18th Feb '15 5:43:34 PM Quag15
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"''To abolish God!" said Gregory, opening the eyes of [[KnightTemplar a fanatic]]. "We do not only want to upset a few despotisms and police regulations; that sort of anarchism does exist, but it is a mere branch of the Nonconformists. We dig deeper and we blow you higher. We wish to [[AboveGoodAndEvil deny all those arbitrary distinctions of vice and virtue, honour and treachery]], upon which mere rebels base themselves. The silly sentimentalists of TheFrenchRevolution talked of the Rights of Man! We hate Rights as we hate Wrongs. We have abolished Right and Wrong.''"\\

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"''To abolish God!" said Gregory, opening the eyes of [[KnightTemplar a fanatic]]. "We do not only want to upset a few despotisms and police regulations; that sort of anarchism does exist, but it is a mere branch of the Nonconformists. We dig deeper and we blow you higher. We wish to [[AboveGoodAndEvil deny all those arbitrary distinctions of vice and virtue, honour and treachery]], upon which mere rebels base themselves. The silly sentimentalists of TheFrenchRevolution UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution talked of the Rights of Man! We hate Rights as we hate Wrongs. We have abolished Right and Wrong.''"\\
29th Jan '15 6:58:19 PM UristMcDJ
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: As part of his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment beginning rant]], Gregory attacks the train system, suggesting that the clerks look so dull because their lives are ordered. Symes then says:
--> "It is you who are unpoetical," replied the poet Syme. "If what you say of clerks is true, they can only be as prosaic as your poetry. The rare, strange thing is to hit the mark; the gross, obvious thing is to miss it. We feel it is epical when man with one wild arrow strikes a distant bird. Is it not also epical when man with one wild engine strikes a distant station? Chaos is dull; because in chaos the train might indeed go anywhere, to Baker Street or to Bagdad. But man is a magician, and his whole magic is in this, that he does say Victoria, and lo! it is Victoria. No, take your books of mere poetry and prose; let me read a time table, with tears of pride. Take your Byron, who commemorates the defeats of man; give me Bradshaw, who commemorates his victories. Give me Bradshaw, I say!"
-->"Must you go?" inquired Gregory sarcastically.
-->"I tell you," went on Syme with passion, "that every time a train comes in I feel that it has broken past batteries of besiegers, and that man has won a battle against chaos. You say contemptuously that when one has left Sloane Square one must come to Victoria. I say that one might do a thousand things instead, and that whenever I really come there I have the sense of hairbreadth escape. And when I hear the guard shout out the word 'Victoria,' it is not an unmeaning word. It is to me the cry of a herald announcing conquest. It is to me indeed 'Victoria'; it is the victory of Adam."
30th Oct '14 7:52:49 AM Jeduthun
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* AffablyEvil: Sunday has his moments.
--> "Now listen to me. I like you. The consequence is that it would annoy me for just about two and a half minutes if I heard that you had died in torments. Well, if you ever tell the police or any human soul about us, I shall have that two and a half minutes of discomfort. On your discomfort I will not dwell. Good-day. Mind the step."



* DuelToTheDeath: Syme [[HitMeDammit intentionally provokes one with the Marquis de St. Eustache]] to prevent him from getting to Paris to carry out an assassination. (It's not actually to the death, though.)

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* DuelToTheDeath: Syme [[HitMeDammit intentionally provokes one with the Marquis de St. Eustache]] to prevent him from getting to Paris to carry out an assassination. (It's [[spoiler:(It's not actually to the death, though.))]]
29th Oct '14 9:01:42 AM Jeduthun
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* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. Though, in fairness, none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory.

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* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. Though, in fairness, none [[spoiler:none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory.]]



* BadassBoast: Sunday gives one before revealing he is the man in the dark room.

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* BadassBoast: Sunday gives one before revealing he [[spoiler:he is the man in the dark room.]]



* BlueBlood: A recurring theme of the novel is that the working/lower class, even criminals, will never be swayed into philosophical anarchy, only the rich/upper class and intellectuals. It appears to be subverted in a big way later in the novel, but is actually played straight.

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* BlueBlood: A recurring theme of the novel is that the working/lower class, even criminals, will never be swayed into philosophical anarchy, only the rich/upper class and intellectuals. It [[spoiler:It appears to be subverted in a big way later in the novel, but is actually played straight.]]



* DayOfTheWeekName: Naturally. Though in a slight aversion, the weekday names are actually code names (with the possible exception of Sunday) for the seven leaders of an anarchist organization. In another aversion, they turn out to be based on the days of the Creation week, slightly adjusted.
* DeadpanSnarker: Syme and Wednesday/Rickert especially, though all the characters have their moments.

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* DayOfTheWeekName: Naturally. Though in a slight aversion, the weekday names are actually code names (with the possible exception of Sunday) for the seven leaders of an anarchist organization. In [[spoiler:In another aversion, they turn out to be based on the days of the Creation week, slightly adjusted.
adjusted.]]
* DeadpanSnarker: Syme and Wednesday/Rickert Wednesday/[[spoiler:Rickert]] especially, though all the characters have their moments.



* DressCodedForYourConvenience: At the climax of the story, each Council member is dressed in clothes featuring a motif based on what was created on his respective day in [[Literature/TheBible Genesis]]: Monday has a single white stripe for the light created on the first day; Tuesday, blue parted robes; Wednesday, a tree/green motif; Thursday, the sun and moon; Friday, fish and birds, and Saturday, beasts and a man. In addition, Sunday is in all white robes, and Gregory in all black.

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* DressCodedForYourConvenience: At the climax of the story, each Council member is dressed in clothes featuring a motif based on what was created on his respective day in [[Literature/TheBible Genesis]]: Monday has a single white stripe for the light created on the first day; Tuesday, blue parted robes; Wednesday, a tree/green motif; Thursday, the sun and moon; Friday, fish and birds, and Saturday, beasts and a man. In [[spoiler:In addition, Sunday is in all white robes, and Gregory in all black.]]



*** This is subverted by Tuesday, who normally ''does'' dress as the caricature and is uncomfortable in gentleman's clothes, and ''doubly'' subverted when that costume is revealed to be itself an assumed role.

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*** This is subverted by Tuesday, [[spoiler:Tuesday]], who normally ''does'' dress as the caricature and is uncomfortable in gentleman's clothes, and ''doubly'' subverted when that costume is revealed to be itself an assumed role.



*** And ''again'' when it's revealed that nobody was actually an anarchist, but were only trying to nab the people who they thought were anarchists - who also weren't anarchists.

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*** And ''again'' when it's revealed that nobody [[spoiler:nobody was actually an anarchist, but were only trying to nab the people who they thought were anarchists - who also weren't anarchists.]]



* :FlockOfWolves: Used to the point of hilarity, as well as one the novel's major twists.

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* :FlockOfWolves: [[spoiler:FlockOfWolves]]: Used to the point of hilarity, as well as one the novel's major twists.



* MiseryPoker: Between Syme and Sunday at the end. Sunday wins.
** Before that, one between Syme and Gregory, which Syme wins.
* MistakenForAnImposter: How Wilks got into the Council and the role of Professor De Worms/Friday.

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* MiseryPoker: Between Syme and Sunday at the end. Sunday wins.
[[spoiler:Sunday wins.]]
** Before that, one between Syme and Gregory, which Syme wins.
[[spoiler:Syme wins.]]
* MistakenForAnImposter: How [[spoiler:How Wilks got into the Council and the role of Professor De Worms/Friday.]]



* MotiveRant: Gregory [[RageAgainstTheHeavens gives one at the climax of the book]]; it also doubles as a HannibalLecture.

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* MotiveRant: Gregory [[spoiler:Gregory]] [[RageAgainstTheHeavens gives one at the climax of the book]]; it also doubles as a HannibalLecture.



* NietzscheWannabe: Professor De Worms, or at least Wilks' impression of him.

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* NietzscheWannabe: Professor De Worms, or [[spoiler:or at least Wilks' impression of him.]]



* OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness: Subverted, as all the members save Sunday are policemen in disguise.

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* OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness: Subverted, The Anarchist council. [[spoiler:Subverted, as all the members save Sunday are policemen in disguise.]]



* TheReveal: Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]
* ReverseMole: Syme among others.

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* TheReveal: Sunday [[spoiler:Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]
* ReverseMole: Syme among [[spoiler:among others.]]



* RunningBothSides: Sunday, as part of TheReveal.
* SinisterShades: Bull wears a pair of smoked spectacles that obscure his eyes to [[UncannyValley uncanny]] effect. Without them, his friendly eyes give him away as an agent of law and order, rather than anarchy.
* SourSupporter: The Professor thinks that the task before them is impossible, but still will work on it.

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* RunningBothSides: [[spoiler:RunningBothSides: Sunday, as part of TheReveal.
TheReveal.]]
* SinisterShades: Bull wears a pair of smoked spectacles that obscure his eyes to [[UncannyValley uncanny]] effect. Without [[spoiler:Without them, his friendly eyes give him away as an agent of law and order, rather than anarchy.
anarchy.]]
* SourSupporter: The Professor [[spoiler:The Professor]] thinks that the task before them is impossible, but still will work on it.



* WitchHunt: A form of it is seen later in the novel when the now-revealed-as-policemen Council members are pursued across the countryside by a mob of townspeople and men they thought were allies, led by the Secretary/Monday (who is also a policeman), who are under the mistaken impression that ''they'' are the anarchists. It gets cleared up by the end of the chapter, though.

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* WitchHunt: A form of it is seen later in the novel when the [[spoiler:the now-revealed-as-policemen Council members are pursued across the countryside by a mob of townspeople and men they thought were allies, led by the Secretary/Monday (who is also a policeman), who are under the mistaken impression that ''they'' are the anarchists. It gets cleared up by the end of the chapter, though.]]



* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Syme gives one at the climax of the book; it also serves as a ShutUpHannibal to Gregory's MotiveRant / HannibalLecture.

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* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Syme gives one at the climax of the book; it also serves as a ShutUpHannibal to Gregory's [[spoiler:Gregory's]] MotiveRant / HannibalLecture.
13th Oct '14 3:14:02 AM Sahira
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* TheNounWhoVerbed: The title.
12th Oct '14 6:03:03 AM gallium
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** To be fair, it's not totally clear given that [[spoiler:the protagonist "wakes" to find himself walking and in the middle of a conversation]].
* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. Though, in fairness, [[spoiler:none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory]].

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** To be fair, it's not totally clear given that [[spoiler:the the protagonist "wakes" to find himself walking and in the middle of a conversation]].
conversation.
* AnarchyIsChaos: The anarchists ''themselves'' take this position, as exemplified in the page quote. Though, in fairness, [[spoiler:none none of them are actually anarchists except Gregory]].Gregory.



* BadassBoast: Sunday gives one [[spoiler: before revealing he is the man in the dark room]].

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* BadassBoast: Sunday gives one [[spoiler: before revealing he is the man in the dark room]].room.



* BlueBlood: A recurring theme of the novel is that the working/lower class, even criminals, will never be swayed into philosophical anarchy, only the rich/upper class and intellectuals. [[spoiler:It appears to be subverted in a big way later in the novel, but is actually played straight.]]

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* BlueBlood: A recurring theme of the novel is that the working/lower class, even criminals, will never be swayed into philosophical anarchy, only the rich/upper class and intellectuals. [[spoiler:It It appears to be subverted in a big way later in the novel, but is actually played straight.]]



* DayOfTheWeekName: Naturally. Though in a slight aversion, the weekday names are actually code names (with the possible exception of Sunday) for the seven leaders of an anarchist organization. [[spoiler: In another aversion, they turn out to be based on the days of the Creation week, slightly adjusted.]]
* DeadpanSnarker: Syme and Wednesday/[[spoiler: Rickert]] especially, though all the characters have their moments.

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* DayOfTheWeekName: Naturally. Though in a slight aversion, the weekday names are actually code names (with the possible exception of Sunday) for the seven leaders of an anarchist organization. [[spoiler: In another aversion, they turn out to be based on the days of the Creation week, slightly adjusted.]]
adjusted.
* DeadpanSnarker: Syme and Wednesday/[[spoiler: Rickert]] Wednesday/Rickert especially, though all the characters have their moments.



* DressCodedForYourConvenience: At the climax of the story, each Council member is dressed in clothes featuring a motif based on what was created on his respective day in [[Literature/TheBible Genesis]]: Monday has a single white stripe for the light created on the first day; Tuesday, blue parted robes; Wednesday, a tree/green motif; Thursday, the sun and moon; Friday, fish and birds, and Saturday, beasts and a man. [[spoiler:In addition, Sunday is in all white robes, and Gregory in all black.]]

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* DressCodedForYourConvenience: At the climax of the story, each Council member is dressed in clothes featuring a motif based on what was created on his respective day in [[Literature/TheBible Genesis]]: Monday has a single white stripe for the light created on the first day; Tuesday, blue parted robes; Wednesday, a tree/green motif; Thursday, the sun and moon; Friday, fish and birds, and Saturday, beasts and a man. [[spoiler:In In addition, Sunday is in all white robes, and Gregory in all black.]]



*** This is subverted by [[spoiler: Tuesday]], who normally ''does'' dress as the caricature and is uncomfortable in gentleman's clothes, and ''doubly'' subverted when that costume is revealed to be itself an assumed role.

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*** This is subverted by [[spoiler: Tuesday]], Tuesday, who normally ''does'' dress as the caricature and is uncomfortable in gentleman's clothes, and ''doubly'' subverted when that costume is revealed to be itself an assumed role.



*** Subverted again [[spoiler: late in the novel, during the chapter "The Earth In Anarchy".]]
*** And ''again'' when it's revealed [[spoiler: that nobody was actually an anarchist, but were only trying to nab the people who they thought were anarchists - who also weren't anarchists.]]

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*** Subverted again [[spoiler: late in the novel, during the chapter "The Earth In Anarchy".]]
Anarchy".
*** And ''again'' when it's revealed [[spoiler: that nobody was actually an anarchist, but were only trying to nab the people who they thought were anarchists - who also weren't anarchists.]]



* EvilRedhead: [[spoiler:Gregory]]. But ''not'' [[spoiler:[[HeroesWantRedheads his equally redheaded sister, Rosamond]]]].
--> [[spoiler:"My red hair, like red flames, shall burn up the world ... "]]
* [[spoiler:FlockOfWolves]]: Used to the point of hilarity, as well as one the novel's major twists.

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* EvilRedhead: [[spoiler:Gregory]]. Gregory. But ''not'' [[spoiler:[[HeroesWantRedheads [[HeroesWantRedheads his equally redheaded sister, Rosamond]]]].
Rosamond]].
--> [[spoiler:"My "My red hair, like red flames, shall burn up the world ... "]]
"
* [[spoiler:FlockOfWolves]]: :FlockOfWolves: Used to the point of hilarity, as well as one the novel's major twists.



* {{God}}: [[spoiler:No, Sunday is not He]], though it was a popular interpretation. Chesterton {{Jossed}} this view by WordOfGod in the aforementioned FanDumb article.

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* {{God}}: [[spoiler:No, No, Sunday is not He]], He, though it was a popular interpretation. Chesterton {{Jossed}} this view by WordOfGod in the aforementioned FanDumb article.



-->[[spoiler:"...I think you can take him to stand for Nature as distinguished from God. Huge, boisterous, full of vitality, dancing with a hundred legs, bright with the glare of the sun, and at first sight, somewhat regardless of us and our desires."]]
-->[[spoiler:"But you will note that I hold that when the mask of Nature is lifted you find God behind."]]
* GoodColorsEvilColors: A character with red hair is ''almost'' always Good in Chesterton. Less frequently, BlondGuysAreEvil, especially if the blondness looks somehow artificial gilded. However, this novel subverts this with the honourable protagonist Syme (who is blond) and the antagonist(?) [[spoiler: Gregory (maybe), who is red-haired.]]

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-->[[spoiler:"...-->"...I think you can take him to stand for Nature as distinguished from God. Huge, boisterous, full of vitality, dancing with a hundred legs, bright with the glare of the sun, and at first sight, somewhat regardless of us and our desires."]]
-->[[spoiler:"But
"
-->"But
you will note that I hold that when the mask of Nature is lifted you find God behind."]]
"
* GoodColorsEvilColors: A character with red hair is ''almost'' always Good in Chesterton. Less frequently, BlondGuysAreEvil, especially if the blondness looks somehow artificial gilded. However, this novel subverts this with the honourable protagonist Syme (who is blond) and the antagonist(?) [[spoiler: Gregory (maybe), who is red-haired.]]



* MiseryPoker: Between Syme and Sunday at the end. [[spoiler:Sunday wins.]]
** Before that, one between Syme and Gregory, which [[spoiler: Syme wins.]]
* MistakenForAnImposter: [[spoiler: How Wilks got into the Council and the role of Professor De Worms/Friday.]]

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* MiseryPoker: Between Syme and Sunday at the end. [[spoiler:Sunday wins.]]
Sunday wins.
** Before that, one between Syme and Gregory, which [[spoiler: Syme wins.]]
wins.
* MistakenForAnImposter: [[spoiler: How Wilks got into the Council and the role of Professor De Worms/Friday.]]



* MotiveRant: [[spoiler: Gregory]] [[RageAgainstTheHeavens gives one at the climax of the book]]; it also doubles as a HannibalLecture.

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* MotiveRant: [[spoiler: Gregory]] Gregory [[RageAgainstTheHeavens gives one at the climax of the book]]; it also doubles as a HannibalLecture.



* NietzscheWannabe: Professor De Worms, [[spoiler: or at least Wilks' impression of him]]
* OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness: [[spoiler: Subverted, as all the members save Sunday are policemen in disguise.]]

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* NietzscheWannabe: Professor De Worms, [[spoiler: or at least Wilks' impression of him]]
him.
* OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness: [[spoiler: Subverted, as all the members save Sunday are policemen in disguise.]]



* TheReveal: [[spoiler: Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days]] ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]
* ReverseMole: Syme [[spoiler: among others.]]
* [[spoiler: RightHandVersusLeftHand]]
* [[spoiler: RunningBothSides]]: Sunday, as part of TheReveal.
* SinisterShades: Bull wears a pair of smoked spectacles that obscure his eyes to [[UncannyValley uncanny]] effect. [[spoiler: Without them, his friendly eyes give him away as an agent of law and order, rather than anarchy.]]
* SourSupporter: [[spoiler:The Professor]] thinks that the task before them is impossible, but still will work on it.

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* TheReveal: [[spoiler: Sunday [[StealthMentor was both the leader of the Council of Days]] Days ''and'' [[TheFaceless the "man in the dark room".]] Also, [[FlockOfWolves all the members of the Council of Days were undercover policemen like Syme.]]]]
* ReverseMole: Syme [[spoiler: among others.]]
others.
* [[spoiler: RightHandVersusLeftHand]]
RightHandVersusLeftHand
* [[spoiler: RunningBothSides]]: RunningBothSides: Sunday, as part of TheReveal.
* SinisterShades: Bull wears a pair of smoked spectacles that obscure his eyes to [[UncannyValley uncanny]] effect. [[spoiler: Without them, his friendly eyes give him away as an agent of law and order, rather than anarchy.]]
anarchy.
* SourSupporter: [[spoiler:The Professor]] The Professor thinks that the task before them is impossible, but still will work on it.



* WitchHunt: A form of it is seen later in the novel when [[spoiler: the now-revealed-as-policemen Council members are pursued across the countryside by a mob of townspeople and men they thought were allies, led by the Secretary/Monday (who is also a policeman), who are under the mistaken impression that ''they'' are the anarchists. It gets cleared up by the end of the chapter, though.]]

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* WitchHunt: A form of it is seen later in the novel when [[spoiler: the now-revealed-as-policemen Council members are pursued across the countryside by a mob of townspeople and men they thought were allies, led by the Secretary/Monday (who is also a policeman), who are under the mistaken impression that ''they'' are the anarchists. It gets cleared up by the end of the chapter, though.]]



* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Syme gives one at the climax of the book; it also serves as a ShutUpHannibal to [[spoiler: Gregory]]'s MotiveRant / HannibalLecture.

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* WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Syme gives one at the climax of the book; it also serves as a ShutUpHannibal to [[spoiler: Gregory]]'s Gregory's MotiveRant / HannibalLecture.
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