History Literature / TheLostFleet

16th Jul '16 5:58:41 AM Leliel
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* HerbivoresAreNice: [[spoiler:Inverted ''with extreme prejudice''. The plant-eating Klicks have a [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of OmnicidalManiac, even to the point where propaganda about destroying aliens is apparently ''their entire entertainment industry''. By contrast, the obviously predatory Dancers are the only species in setting that even attempts to communicate peaceably with humans, and their oddly patronizing attitude turns out to be due to a persistent translation error ''they'' think is deliberately patronizing.]]

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* HerbivoresAreNice: [[spoiler:Inverted HerbivoresAreFriendly: Inverted ''with extreme prejudice''. The plant-eating Klicks klicks have a [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of OmnicidalManiac, even to the point where propaganda about destroying aliens is apparently ''their entire entertainment industry''. By contrast, the obviously predatory Dancers are the only species in setting that even attempts to communicate peaceably with humans, and [[spoiler:and their oddly patronizing attitude turns out to be due to a persistent translation error ''they'' think is deliberately patronizing.]]
12th Jul '16 11:26:19 AM PirateJack
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** He's also something of an expy of George Washington, who fought a war against long odds and then refused to take up dictatorial power after he'd won.
6th Jul '16 5:24:23 AM Bissek
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* LensmanArmsRace: Averted. It's explicitly mentioned in the first book that most of the weapons used by the fleet in the story's present day are just incremental upgrades of the weapons used by the fleet before the war. The null field is the only truly new weapon developed over the course of a century, and it's so short ranged that it rarely gets used.
28th Jun '16 4:16:07 PM Bissek
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* RightHandVersusLeftHand: This trope is the reason why the Dark Fleet was possible. Security classifications had gotten so out of hand (Rione mentioned that she knew one security guy who refused to confirm or deny public domain information that could easily be looked up in any library) that nobody in the government really understood what the government was doing. While every component of the government's ultra-classified projects was being overseen, nobody was overseeing the big picture, and none of the people overseeing the pieces talked to each other. As a result, nobody realized how out of control things were getting until it all blew up in their faces.

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* RightHandVersusLeftHand: RightHandVersusLeftHand:
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This trope is the reason why the Dark Fleet was possible. Security classifications had gotten so out of hand (Rione mentioned that she knew one security guy who refused to confirm or deny public domain information that could easily be looked up in any library) that nobody in the government really understood what the government was doing. While every component of the government's ultra-classified projects was being overseen, nobody was overseeing the big picture, and none of the people overseeing the pieces talked to each other. As a result, nobody realized how out of control things were getting until it all blew up in their faces.faces.
** The organization behind the Europa plague kept their project to develop a bioweapon that couldn't be detected by enemy biofilters so secret that they didn't even tell the biofilter design people on ''their'' side about it. This ended up biting them (And everyone else on Europa) back, '''hard'''.
27th Jun '16 2:58:46 PM StFan
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!!This series !!''The Lost Fleet'' provides examples of:
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* TwoDSpace:
** Averted. The formations and tactics used by Geary are not simply 3 dimensional, but ''4'' dimensional. Time plays an incredibly decisive factor in winning a battle, especially since everything the commander sees is happening hours after it happened and everybody is moving fast enough that time dilation is a non-trivial issue. At one point, Geary is simply unable to micromanage every part of his fleet in the middle of battle trying to account for it all.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''Dreadnaught'', where it is used to interpret new regions in a simpler fashion and [[spoiler:figure out that the Enigma Race has political borders within its own territory, indicating that the species is subdivided into factions.]]



* {{Two-DSpace}}: Averted. The formations and tactics used by Geary are not simply 3 dimensional, but ''4'' dimensional. Time plays an incredibly decisive factor in winning a battle, especially since everything the commander sees is happening hours after it happened and everybody is moving fast enough that time dilation is a non-trivial issue. At one point, Geary is simply unable to micromanage every part of his fleet in the middle of battle trying to account for it all.
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] in ''Dreadnaught'', where it is used to interpret new regions in a simpler fashion and [[spoiler:figure out that the Enigma Race has political borders within its own territory, indicating that the species is subdivided into factions.]]
25th Jun '16 5:40:02 PM Bissek
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* GoneHorriblyRight: The Europan plague, the result of a biowarfare project getting lose. The entire moon was dead, and centuries later there is still a dedicated fleet whose sole purpose is to ensure that nothing lands on or leaves Europa.

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* GoneHorriblyRight: The Europan plague, the result of a biowarfare project getting lose. The an attempt to create an undetectable bioweapon, which succeeded so well that the designers were unable to detect it when it escaped containment and infected them. It wiped out the entire moon was dead, population of the moon, and centuries later there is still a dedicated fleet whose sole purpose is to ensure that nothing lands on or leaves Europa.
22nd Jun '16 11:02:32 AM Leliel
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* HerbivoresAreNice: [[spoiler:Inverted ''with extreme prejudice''. The plant-eating Klicks have a [[PlanetOfHats hat]] of OmnicidalManiac, even to the point where propaganda about destroying aliens is apparently ''their entire entertainment industry''. By contrast, the obviously predatory Dancers are the only species in setting that even attempts to communicate peaceably with humans, and their oddly patronizing attitude turns out to be due to a persistent translation error ''they'' think is deliberately patronizing.]]
21st Jun '16 11:15:33 AM HumanTorch2
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** In ''Victorious'', Tulev is reading the Enigma Aliens' ultimatum to the Syndics and notes that it's full of human legalese. Desjani suggests that they may have captured some Syndic lawyers. Duellos's answer? Maybe this is why they want to destroy humans.

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** In ''Victorious'', Tulev is reading the Enigma Aliens' ultimatum to the Syndics and notes that it's full of human legalese. Desjani suggests that they may have captured some Syndic lawyers. Duellos's answer? Maybe [[{{EveryoneHasStandards}} this is why why]] they want to [[{{KillAllHumans}} destroy humans.humans]].
19th Jun '16 2:10:35 PM HiddenWindshield
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* UnwantedFalseFaith: In the years after his supposed death, Geary's legend developed into a sort of cult-like following, where military commanders admonish each other for what they think Geary would supposedly say about their ideas. It's quite clear that Geary feels ''extremely'' [[StopWorshippingMe uncomfortable]] with the ardent faith his subordinates have in his flawlessness. It doesn't help that even people like Desjani think he's been sent by the God's themselves to deliver them unto victory.

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* UnwantedFalseFaith: In the years after his supposed death, Geary's legend developed into a sort of cult-like following, where military commanders admonish each other for what they think Geary would supposedly say about their ideas. It's quite clear that Geary feels ''extremely'' [[StopWorshippingMe uncomfortable]] with the ardent faith his subordinates have in his flawlessness. It doesn't help that even people like Desjani think he's been sent by the God's Gods themselves to deliver them unto victory.
19th Jun '16 2:08:45 PM HiddenWindshield
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* UnfortunateNames: In ''Leviathan'', Geary meets an Alliance ground forces major named Problem. So, naturally, when she introduces herself as "Major Problem", Geary starts by asking what's the problem, before being corrected (naturally, the Major has a pained look on her face). A marine comments that Problem should get herself busted down to Captain.

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* UnfortunateNames: In ''Leviathan'', Geary meets an Alliance ground forces major named Problem. So, naturally, when she introduces herself as "Major Problem", Geary starts by asking what's the problem, before being corrected (naturally, ([[NeverHeardThatOneBefore naturally, the Major has a pained look on her face).face]]). A marine comments that Problem should get herself busted down to Captain.
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