History Literature / TheIliad

20th Sep '16 10:38:28 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* UnusualEuphemism: Getting [[RapeAsDrama abducted]] in ancient Greece may be worse than it already sounds, since some believe that it is a synonym for rape. However, the truth is the other way around: "Rape" can mean "to steal" as well. Sexual rape was just something that happened to occur during or after an abduction (or as the point of one), but "sexual rape" and "abduction" are not in any way synonymous.

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* UnusualEuphemism: UnusualEuphemism:
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Getting [[RapeAsDrama abducted]] in ancient Greece may be worse than it already sounds, since some believe that it is a synonym for rape. However, the truth is the other way around: "Rape" can mean "to steal" as well. Sexual rape was just something that happened to occur during or after an abduction (or as the point of one), but "sexual rape" and "abduction" are not in any way synonymous.



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: [[Literature/TheAeneid Aeneas]]. Just as Diomedes is about to kill him, the Gods save his life and declare that after the war, he shall be the leader of all future Trojans. He's rarely mentioned again, and then only in passing. 800 years later, Virgil decided to make this a BrickJoke.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: [[Literature/TheAeneid Aeneas]]. Just as Diomedes is about to kill him, the Gods gods save his life and declare that after the war, he shall be the leader of all future Trojans. He's rarely mentioned again, and then only in passing. 800 years later, Virgil decided to make this a BrickJoke.
20th Sep '16 10:37:01 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* MommasBoy:
%%** Achilles.
** When she gets her hand speared by Diomedes, Aphrodite proves herself to be quite the Momma's ''Girl''.

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* MommasBoy:
%%** Achilles.
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MommasBoy: When she gets her hand speared by Diomedes, Aphrodite proves herself to be quite the Momma's ''Girl''.
20th Sep '16 10:35:39 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* LadyOfWar: Athena herself helps out the Greek side. [[ActionGirl Also beats up Ares in a duel]].
** Also Hera and to a lesser extent Artemis. Aphrodite, on the other hand, is shown to be a lover, not a fighter.

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* LadyOfWar: LadyOfWar:
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Athena herself helps out the Greek side. She [[ActionGirl Also also beats up Ares in a duel]].
** Also Hera and to Hera
** To
a lesser extent Artemis. Aphrodite, on the other hand, is shown to be a lover, not a fighter.
6th Sep '16 6:32:19 AM annette12
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* BadAss:
** For the humans, there is Achilles, [[Literature/TheAeneid Aeneas]], [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking Agamemnon]], [[TheBigGuy Ajax]], [[OneSteveLimit the other Ajax]], [[BadassNormal Diomedes]], Glaucus, [[BadassGrandpa Nestor]], [[TheRival Hector]], Patroclus, [[GeniusBruiser Odysseus]], Sarpedon, Menelaus... [[WorldOfBadass EVERYONE, in fact]]. Except [[DirtyCoward for]] [[TheLoad Paris]].
** For the goddesses, there's Hera and Athena.



* DisposablePilot: Charioteers in this story tend to have the life expectancy of an asthmatic mayfly. Which makes Automedon holding his own in a fight against ''Hector'' of all people and ''surviving'' all the more BadAss. Then again, Automedon isn't just ''any'' charioteer, he's ''[[BadAss Achilles']]'' charioteer, so he's BadAss by association.

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* DisposablePilot: Charioteers in this story tend to have the life expectancy of an asthmatic mayfly. Which makes Automedon holding his own in a fight against ''Hector'' of all people and ''surviving'' all the more BadAss. Then again, Automedon isn't just ''any'' charioteer, he's ''[[BadAss Achilles']]'' ''Achilles''' charioteer, so he's BadAss Badass by association.



* WorldOfBadass: Greece is full with heroes, each worth at least 100 common soldiers.

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* WorldOfBadass: Greece is full with heroes, each worth at least 100 common soldiers. For the humans, there is Achilles, [[Literature/TheAeneid Aeneas]], [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking Agamemnon]], [[TheBigGuy Ajax]], [[OneSteveLimit the other Ajax]], [[BadassNormal Diomedes]], Glaucus, [[BadassGrandpa Nestor]], [[TheRival Hector]], Patroclus, [[GeniusBruiser Odysseus]], Sarpedon, Menelaus... [[WorldOfBadass EVERYONE, in fact]]. Except [[DirtyCoward for]] [[TheLoad Paris]]. For the goddesses, there's Hera and Athena.
27th Aug '16 12:27:42 PM morane
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Achilles/Akhilleus, Patroclus/Patroklos, Hector/Hektor, Ajax/Aias, Helen/Helene, Teucer/Teukros. During the ages, the text has gone through editing, transliteration, translation, and adaptation for poetic purposes: it's not surprising that there are variants of the main characters' names. Romanized vs. original Greek names is a big contributor.

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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Achilles/Akhilleus, Patroclus/Patroklos, Hector/Hektor, Ajax/Aias, Helen/Helene, Teucer/Teukros.Teucer/Teukros, Clytemestra/Klytaimnestra. During the ages, the text has gone through editing, transliteration, translation, and adaptation for poetic purposes: it's not surprising that there are variants of the main characters' names. Romanized vs. original Greek names is a big contributor.
14th Aug '16 5:55:45 AM ashimbabbar
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* DirtyCoward: Paris is given this characterization when he flees from the fight with Menelaus.

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* DirtyCoward: Paris is given this characterization when he flees from the fight with Menelaus. Also Dolon.
5th Jun '16 6:31:27 AM LogicDragon
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5th Jun '16 6:31:25 AM LogicDragon
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* AntiHero: At the time of the tale's origin, Achilles was definitely ''not'' an antihero, but due to ValuesDissonance, many readers see Achilles as a colossal JerkAss and are more sympathetic to Hector, who is not a nice guy either.

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* AntiHero: At the time of the tale's origin, Achilles was definitely ''not'' perhaps less of an antihero, but due to ValuesDissonance, many readers see Achilles as a colossal JerkAss and are more sympathetic to Hector, who is not a nice guy either.
3rd Apr '16 11:02:47 AM ading
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* ForegoneConclusion: Homer's audience would have been very familiar with the myths behind the story, and known how it all ended. The fact that the Trojans are doomed to lose is known even by Hector himself.

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* ForegoneConclusion: Homer's audience would have been very familiar with the myths behind the story, and known how it all ended. The fact that the Trojans are doomed to lose is known even by Hector himself. Even if the audience doesn't know beforehand, Zeus explains midway through what's going to happen in the rest of the epic.



* ManlyTears: Many times. The most famous example being between Achilles and King Priam [[spoiler: when Priam begs Achilles to return the body of his son Hector for burial. Priam's passion moves Achilles who begins thinking about his lost friend Patroclus and his own aged father back in Greece, who will soon lose his son; and the two men weep together over their loss.]]

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* ManlyTears: Many times. The most famous example being between Achilles and King Priam [[spoiler: when Priam begs Achilles to return the body of his son Hector for burial. Priam's passion moves Achilles who begins thinking about his lost friend Patroclus and his own aged father back in Greece, who will soon lose his son; and the two men weep together over their loss.]]



* TragicBromance: [[spoiler:Achilles and Patroclus]]

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* TragicBromance: [[spoiler:Achilles Achilles and Patroclus]]Patroclus.
13th Mar '16 8:50:15 AM LordGro
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* HeroicAmbidexterity: The Trojan [[BitCharacter Asteropaeus]] throws both his spears at once, "for both his arms were as his right", when he faces off against Achilles. One of the spears hits Achilles in the arm, making Asteropaeus the first Trojan to give Achilles a wound. Nevertheless Asteropaeus is slain in the ensuing sword-fight.
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