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A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.
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A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', ''Literature/LeMorteDArthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.
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* HeroWithBadPublicity: So Morgan le Fay claims, at least.
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* UnreliableNarrator: Kay thinks Morgan is this, though he (and we) have no proof she's lying. Kay also qualifies, not because he isn't honest but because he's definitely letting his hatred of Lancelot color his version of events.
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* InTheBlood: If one is Gawaine's relative, no matter how distant, one is bound to become a serial killer, a cunning liar or, at least, an adulterer.
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* DeadpanSnarker: Kay and, to a lesser degree, Mordred
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* {{Epigraph}}: Each chapter begins with a quotation from a medieval Arthurian romance -- usually Malory, but occasionally some else such as ''Literature/SirGawainAndTheGreenKnight''.
* EveryoneIsASuspect: Almost everyone has some serious reason to revenge on his fellows...
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* {{Epigraph}}: Each chapter begins with a quotation from a medieval Arthurian romance -- usually Malory, but occasionally some something else such as ''Literature/SirGawainAndTheGreenKnight''.
* EveryoneIsASuspect: Almost everyone has some serious reason to revenge on hisfellows...fellows.
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* OnlySaneMan: Kay, as the only knight who questions their world of arbitrary honor and strange quests.
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* TemptingApple: The story begins from the death from a poisoned apple and the remained fruits immediately become the object of interest for many.
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* IWillProtectHer: Kay and Guinevere.
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* AdaptationExpansion: Malory's version of the story is 6 chapters; Karr's is 33, plus an epilogue. Malory has Guinevere saved by a ''deus ex machina'' courtesy of the Lady of the Lake; Karr shows Kay and Mordred having to go to a lot of trouble to make the ''deus ex machina'' possible.
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A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.\\\
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A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.\\\ridiculed.
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* AsleepForDays: In the final chapter, Kay is wounded in pursuit of the murderer; when he regains consciousness, almost the first thing he says is that they have only two days to get the evidence back to London -- to which Mordred replies that actually they only have one days, because he's been unconscious for nearly twenty-four hours.
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* AsleepForDays: In the final chapter, Kay is wounded in pursuit of the murderer; when he regains consciousness, almost the first thing he says is that they have only two days to get the evidence back to London -- to which Mordred replies that actually they only have one days, day, because he's been unconscious for nearly twenty-four hours.
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* SummationGathering: Kay holds one in the penultimate chapter.
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Actually, there are several dwarves, just like in Mallory.
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->''O me, that such a name as Guinevere's,''\\
''Which our high Lancelot hath so lifted up,''\\
''And been thereby uplifted, should through me,''\\
''My violence, and my villainy, come to shame.''
-->-- Alfred, Lord Tennyson, "IdyllsOfTheKing"
A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.\\\
Every chapter has a direct quotation from Malory at its beginning, and, as a whole, the novel sticks to Malory's version in every detail, including the names of minor knights and ladies and the exact chronology of events (though not the religious position - e.g. in Karr's novel the hermits are crazy old men, very much unlike Malorian majestic and omniscient interpreters of dreams).
!!Provides examples of:
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: The problem of Mordred, who turns into a cynical introvert after getting to know who exactly were his parents.
* CourtlyLove: Averted. Those who seem to be most courteous towards the ladies are not the most willing to help the Queen, and Kay himself is ridiculed by the courtiers only because he doesn't beat around the bush.
* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler:Mordred]], troubled by his past.
* EveryoneIsASuspect: Almost everyone has some serious reason to revenge on his fellows...
* {{Excalibur}}: A minor appearance.
* ForegoneConclusion: Everyone who has read Malory knows that the apple was poisoned by [[spoiler:Pinel]].
* GenreBusting: It's a fantasy novel, a satire AND a crime story, with sarcastic knights as detectives (and magic as forensic science).
* GloryDays: Kay's are already behind him. However, he is more realistic than embittered, and deals with the problem very well.
* TheHighMiddleAges: Exactly like in Malory.
* HotWitch: Actually, two of them: Nimue of the Lake and Morgan le Fay.
* HowDoYouLikeThemApples: The story begins from the death from a poisoned apple and the remained fruits immediately become the object of interest for many.
* IWillProtectHer: Kay and Guinevere.
* InTheBlood: If one is Gawaine's relative, no matter how distant, one is bound to become a serial killer, a cunning liar or, at least, an adulterer.
* KnightInSourArmor: Kay. He's really sarcastic for a seneschal.
* LoveRuinsTheRealm: The main danger for the kingdom and court is connected with the poisoning, but the love relation between the Queen and Sir Lancelot causes some further complications.
* AMindIsATerribleThingToRead: Mind reading is a terrible thing for both the reader and the one being read, which is why The Lady of the Lake hates performing this kind of magic.
* MurderByMistake: Everyone assumes that the murderer meant to poison Gawaine, not Patrise.
* PerspectiveFlip: Kay, constantly described as an impolite coward by Malory, here is presented as straightforward and reasonable, while other knights (with possible exception of Mordred) are shown as either dishonest or plainly stupid.
* SupernaturalAid: Given to Mordred and Kay by Nimue and Morgan. Slightly subverted, as magic appears to be more restricted than non-magicians used to think.
* TrialByCombat: The reason why everyone, except Kay and Mordred, desperately search for Lancelot.
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->''O me, that such a name as Guinevere's,''\\
''Which our high Lancelot hath so lifted up,''\\
''And been thereby uplifted, should through me,''\\
''My violence, and my villainy, come to shame.''
-->-- Alfred, Lord Tennyson, "IdyllsOfTheKing"
A retelling of chapters 3-8 in book 18 of Malory's ''Literature/MorteDarthur'', written by Phyllis Ann Karr and published in 1982, this book is an example of fantasy and crime fiction at the same time. The crime in question is the poisoning of the apples served at the feast prepared by Queen Guinevere, so, obviously, the Queen is the main suspect. The story is told from the perspective of Sir Kay, who, with the help of Mordred and the Lady of the Lake, tries to acquit the Queen of the accusation. During the investigation dark secrets of noble families are brought to light, religious conflicts reappear, Lancelot occurs to be a jerk, and all the courtly ideals are ridiculed.\\\
Every chapter has a direct quotation from Malory at its beginning, and, as a whole, the novel sticks to Malory's version in every detail, including the names of minor knights and ladies and the exact chronology of events (though not the religious position - e.g. in Karr's novel the hermits are crazy old men, very much unlike Malorian majestic and omniscient interpreters of dreams).
!!Provides examples of:
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: The problem of Mordred, who turns into a cynical introvert after getting to know who exactly were his parents.
* CourtlyLove: Averted. Those who seem to be most courteous towards the ladies are not the most willing to help the Queen, and Kay himself is ridiculed by the courtiers only because he doesn't beat around the bush.
* DeathSeeker: [[spoiler:Mordred]], troubled by his past.
* EveryoneIsASuspect: Almost everyone has some serious reason to revenge on his fellows...
* {{Excalibur}}: A minor appearance.
* ForegoneConclusion: Everyone who has read Malory knows that the apple was poisoned by [[spoiler:Pinel]].
* GenreBusting: It's a fantasy novel, a satire AND a crime story, with sarcastic knights as detectives (and magic as forensic science).
* GloryDays: Kay's are already behind him. However, he is more realistic than embittered, and deals with the problem very well.
* TheHighMiddleAges: Exactly like in Malory.
* HotWitch: Actually, two of them: Nimue of the Lake and Morgan le Fay.
* HowDoYouLikeThemApples: The story begins from the death from a poisoned apple and the remained fruits immediately become the object of interest for many.
* IWillProtectHer: Kay and Guinevere.
* InTheBlood: If one is Gawaine's relative, no matter how distant, one is bound to become a serial killer, a cunning liar or, at least, an adulterer.
* KnightInSourArmor: Kay. He's really sarcastic for a seneschal.
* LoveRuinsTheRealm: The main danger for the kingdom and court is connected with the poisoning, but the love relation between the Queen and Sir Lancelot causes some further complications.
* AMindIsATerribleThingToRead: Mind reading is a terrible thing for both the reader and the one being read, which is why The Lady of the Lake hates performing this kind of magic.
* MurderByMistake: Everyone assumes that the murderer meant to poison Gawaine, not Patrise.
* PerspectiveFlip: Kay, constantly described as an impolite coward by Malory, here is presented as straightforward and reasonable, while other knights (with possible exception of Mordred) are shown as either dishonest or plainly stupid.
* SupernaturalAid: Given to Mordred and Kay by Nimue and Morgan. Slightly subverted, as magic appears to be more restricted than non-magicians used to think.
* TrialByCombat: The reason why everyone, except Kay and Mordred, desperately search for Lancelot.
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