History Literature / TheIdiot

26th Jun '16 11:26:46 PM PaulA
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6th Jun '16 5:05:51 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* ABirthdayNotABreak: On Myshkin's birthday he has to witness Ippolit's suicide attempt at his SurpriseParty and later read Nastasya's harrowing letters.
6th Jun '16 10:07:18 AM DearestWindmillGirl
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* BettyAndVeronica: For the most part, Aglaia and Nastasya are this respectively for Myshkin, and Myshkin and Rogozhin respectively for Nastasya. Both Myshkin and Nastasya are usually more inclined to go with the Veronica, whom they know full-well is likely destructive for them personally.

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* BettyAndVeronica: For the most part, Aglaia and Nastasya are this respectively for Myshkin, and Myshkin and Rogozhin respectively for Nastasya. Both And both Myshkin and Nastasya are usually more inclined to go with the Veronica, the one they're not ''actually'' in love with, whom they know full-well is likely destructive for them personally.



* BrutalHonesty: Because of his NoSocialSkills, Myshkin actually has a bizarre version of this. He is, of course, polite and never means to offend anyone, but he innoncently tells Aglaia she's 'almost as pretty' as Nastasya, tells Ganya he's 'ordinary' and tells the whole company at the Epanchins' party all the nasty things he's heard about the upper class - only in order to tell how he was proven wrong by them. So he straddles the line between this and InnocentlyInsensitive while still being polite and well-meaning.

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* BrutalHonesty: Because Combined with InnocentlyInsensitive - because of his NoSocialSkills, Myshkin actually has a bizarre version of this. He is, of course, polite and never means to offend anyone, but he innoncently innocently tells Aglaia she's 'almost as pretty' as Nastasya, tells Ganya he's 'ordinary' and tells the whole company at the Epanchins' party all the nasty things he's heard about the upper class - only in order to tell how he was proven wrong by them. So he straddles the line between this and InnocentlyInsensitive while still being polite and well-meaning.class.



* ConvertingForLove: [[spoiler:Aglaia runs off with a Polish guy and converts to Roman Catholicism when she marries him.]]

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* ConvertingForLove: [[spoiler:Aglaia runs off with a Polish guy count and converts to Roman Catholicism when she marries for him.]]



* DisabledLoveInterest: The prince initially believes he can't marry because he is an "invalid" and, indeed, there's a lot of drama and resistance over his status as such before the Epanchins will even consider him a potential suitor for their daughter.

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* DisabledLoveInterest: The prince initially believes he can't marry because he is an "invalid" and, indeed, there's a lot of drama and resistance over several other characters point out his status as such before the Epanchins will even consider is a huge barrier in him a potential suitor for their daughter.having ''any'' romantic or marriage prospects.



* FriendToAllChildren: Myshkin was beloved by children when he was getting over his illness in Switzerland. It's also to some degree why he makes friends so easily with Kolya, who's a young teen. It's also related to the idea that ChildrenAreInnocent so he, being the ultimate innocent, can relate to them better and teach them, while their minds are fresh, to retain his kind and idealistic mindset.

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* FriendToAllChildren: Myshkin was beloved by children when he was getting over his illness in Switzerland. It's also to some degree why he makes friends so easily with Kolya, who's a young teen. It's also related to the idea that likely because ChildrenAreInnocent so he, being the ultimate innocent, can relate to them better better, and teach them, while their minds are fresh, can influence them to retain adopt his kind and idealistic mindset.giving mindset before they become too jaded.



* HenpeckedHusband: General Epanchin is a fairly minor example, but it's abundantly clear his wife runs the household and the family's social lives.
* HeroicBSOD: [[spoiler:The finale leaves Prince Myshkin mad and unable to speak.]]

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* HenpeckedHusband: General Epanchin is a fairly minor example, but it's abundantly clear his wife runs the household and the family's social lives.
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* HeroicBSOD: [[spoiler:The finale leaves Prince Myshkin mad and [[DumbStruck unable to speak.speak]].]]



* IKissYourHand: Myshkin kisses Vera's hand in gratitude for her sympathy and to reassure her. She gets very embarrassed. He also kisses [[AnywhereButTheirLips her forehead]] later on.
* [[IllGirl Ill Boy]]: Prince Myshkin suffers from epilepsy, and even when not having seizures, he is so often described as feverish, "heavy-headed", etc., that one gets the impression he very seldom feels completely well. In addition, there's Ippolit, who's dying of consumption.

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* IKissYourHand: Myshkin kisses Vera's hand in gratitude for her sympathy and to reassure her. She gets very embarrassed.blushes immensely. He also kisses [[AnywhereButTheirLips her forehead]] later on.
* [[IllGirl Ill Boy]]: Prince Myshkin suffers from epilepsy, and even when not having seizures, he is feels faint and trembles and gets fevers and headaches so often described as feverish, "heavy-headed", etc., that one gets the impression he very seldom feels completely well. In addition, there's Ippolit, who's dying of consumption.



* MadonnaWhoreComplex: This mindset causes a great deal of the conflict in the novel, as no one can understand why Myshkin would care for 'disreputable' Nastasya when the 'pure and perfect' Aglaia is in love with him. Especially since, backgrounds aside, one can make the argument that the two proud, capricious, intelligent and rebellious women are NotSoDifferent.

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* LovingAShadow: Yevgeny Pavlovitch conjectures that Myshkin was never truly in love with either Aglaia or Nastasya. Myshkin is very confused and distressed at the time, but readily admits he may be right.
* MadonnaWhoreComplex: This mindset causes a great deal of the conflict in the novel, as no one (including Nastasya herself) can understand why Myshkin would care for 'disreputable' Nastasya when the 'pure and perfect' Aglaia is in love with him. Especially since, backgrounds aside, It's notable because this one distinction of their sexual experience and background is all that separates the public opinion, as one can make the argument that the two beautiful, proud, capricious, intelligent and rebellious women are NotSoDifferent. NotSoDifferent apart from it.



* TheMasochismTango: Roghozin and Nastasya are the worst offenders, who cross the line into DestructiveRomance, but everyone gets in on the act to some extent.

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* TheMasochismTango: Roghozin and Nastasya are the worst offenders, who cross crossing the line into DestructiveRomance, but everyone gets in on the act to some extent.



* ObliviousToLove: Notably, Myshkin has to be ''told'' by other characters that both Nastasya and Aglaia are in love with him, as both have too much {{Pride}} to make an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove. He's even oblivious to his own love for Aglaia, and it's deeply ambiguous when or if he ever gets wise to those feelings, or how real they were.

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* ObliviousToLove: Notably, Myshkin has to be ''told'' by other characters that both Nastasya and Aglaia are in love with him, as both have too much {{Pride}} to make an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove. AnguishedDeclarationOfLove, and it's unclear if he realizes for himself. He's even oblivious to his own ''own'' love for Aglaia, and it's deeply very ambiguous when or if he ever realizes, as he never gets wise to those feelings, or how real they were.a dramatic and clear LoveEpiphany.



* SheepInSheepsClothing: Quite few characters think Myshkin can't possibly be as kind and innocent as he seems, that he must have a dark secret or a calculating ulterior motive. They are wrong. Rogozhin even refers to Myshkin as a sheep.

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* SheepInSheepsClothing: Quite few characters think Myshkin can't possibly be as kind and innocent as he seems, that he must have a dark secret or a calculating ulterior motive. They are wrong. Rogozhin even refers to Myshkin as a sheep.
6th Jun '16 12:43:13 AM DearestWindmillGirl
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* IKissYourHand: Myshkin kisses Vera's hand in gratitude for her sympathy and to reassure her. She gets very embarrassed. He later kisses [[AnywhereButTheLips her forehead]] in gratitude.

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* IKissYourHand: Myshkin kisses Vera's hand in gratitude for her sympathy and to reassure her. She gets very embarrassed. He later also kisses [[AnywhereButTheLips [[AnywhereButTheirLips her forehead]] in gratitude.later on.



* ShipperOnDeck: Kolya is very invested in the prince's relationship with Aglaia, whereas Nastasya's friend Darya (who initially advocated for DumpThemAll to Ganya and Rogozhin's offers) avidly ships Myshkin/Nastasya, seeing the gentle prince as Nastasya's best chance at happiness and healing.

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* ShipperOnDeck: Kolya is very invested in the prince's relationship with Aglaia, whereas Nastasya's friend Darya (who initially advocated for DumpThemAll to Ganya and Rogozhin's offers) avidly ships Myshkin/Nastasya, seeing the gentle prince as Nastasya's best chance at happiness and healing. But the ultimate shipper is actually Nastasya herslef, promoting Myshkin/Aglaia and actively obsessing and scheming to bring it about, despite being in love with Myshkin herself; it's her ''very'' twisted version of IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy.
6th Jun '16 12:33:04 AM DearestWindmillGirl
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* HonorableMarriageProposal: Myshkin's proposal to Nastasya is a variation of this, as he tells her she is already an honest woman and if she accepted, it would be her doing him an honor.
* IKissYourHand: Myshkin kisses Vera's hand in gratitude for her sympathy and to reassure her. She gets very embarrassed. He later kisses [[AnywhereButTheLips her forehead]] in gratitude.


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* ManHug: Rogozhin gives Myshkin one at parting after their FriendshipMoment.


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* ShipperOnDeck: Kolya is very invested in the prince's relationship with Aglaia, whereas Nastasya's friend Darya (who initially advocated for DumpThemAll to Ganya and Rogozhin's offers) avidly ships Myshkin/Nastasya, seeing the gentle prince as Nastasya's best chance at happiness and healing.
5th Jun '16 10:37:00 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* CluelessChickMagnet: Notably, Myshkin has to be ''told'' by other characters that both Nastasya and Aglaia are in love with him, as both have too much {{Pride}} to make an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove.


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* ObliviousToLove: Notably, Myshkin has to be ''told'' by other characters that both Nastasya and Aglaia are in love with him, as both have too much {{Pride}} to make an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove. He's even oblivious to his own love for Aglaia, and it's deeply ambiguous when or if he ever gets wise to those feelings, or how real they were.


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* RunawayBride: Nastasya Filippovna, multiple times. She vascillates between Myshkin and Rogozhin, being intermittently overcome by her fear and her pride and self-loathing as each wedding approaches.
5th Jun '16 9:52:51 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* BroodingBoyGentleGirl: Nastasya and Myshkin are a GenderFlipped version. Nastasya's not getting over her torrid past anytime soon, and as such Myshkin dedicates himself to comforting her and trying to help her see hope and value in herself.



* BungledSuicide: Ippolit attempts to shoot himself in the head. His gun misfires. (Though, owing to his aforementioned attention whoring, some characters suspect that Ippolit wasn’t actually trying to kill himself and had loaded his gun wrong deliberately.)

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* BungledSuicide: Ippolit attempts to shoot himself in the head. His gun misfires. (Though, owing to his aforementioned attention whoring, some characters suspect that Ippolit wasn’t actually trying to kill himself and had loaded his gun wrong deliberately.)) Ultimately, it's left up to the reader to decide if his suicide attempt was genuine.
* CluelessChickMagnet: Notably, Myshkin has to be ''told'' by other characters that both Nastasya and Aglaia are in love with him, as both have too much {{Pride}} to make an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove.



* ConvertingForLove: [[spoiler:Aglaia runs off with a Polish guy and converts to Roman Catholicism when she marries him.]]



* TheMasochismTango: Roghozin and Nastasya are the worst offenders, but everyone gets in on the act to some extent.

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* TheMasochismTango: Roghozin and Nastasya are the worst offenders, who cross the line into DestructiveRomance, but everyone gets in on the act to some extent.
5th Jun '16 5:37:06 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* TheAlcoholic: General Ivolgin and Lebedyev are both drunks, so naturally they become best friends, and continually embarrass their sensitive children.



* CollapsedMidSpeech: Poor Myshkin goes down with a seizure in the middle of an impromptu impassioned speech on the beauty of the world and the Russian national identity to the entire company at the Epanchins' party.

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* CollapsedMidSpeech: Poor Myshkin goes down with a seizure in the middle of an impromptu impassioned speech on the beauty of the world and the Russian national identity to the entire company at the Epanchins' party.



* CrazyJealousGuy: Rogozhin's obsessive jealousy over Nastasya drives him on to all sorts of evil.

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* CrazyJealousGuy: Rogozhin's obsessive jealousy over Nastasya [[LoveMakesYouEvil drives him on to all sorts of evil.]]



* DysfunctionJunction: Being Doestoevsky, this is not surprising. Myshkin and his friends all suffer from various neuroses and traumas, but perhaps none more than BrokenBird Nastasya.

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* DysfunctionJunction: Being Doestoevsky, this is not surprising. Myshkin and his friends all suffer from various neuroses company have a myriad of issues and traumas, but perhaps none more than BrokenBird Nastasya.ranging from alcoholism to suicidal self-loathing.



* InsaneForgiveness: Myshkin readily and with no drama at all forgives [[spoiler:Rogozhin for attempted murder.]]

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* InsaneForgiveness: Myshkin readily and with no drama at all forgives [[spoiler:Rogozhin for attempted murder.trying to murder him.]]



* LoveMartyr: Actually averted more often than not in this novel. Nastasya returns to Rogozhin despite his being a DomesticAbuser not out of love, but out of self-destruction. Some people assume Myshkin was this for the time he was with Nastasya, but most of his unhappiness in that relationship was due to his tender pity at not being able to help her love herself. Myshkin is actually probably ''more'' of a martyr for Aglaia, who is a LovingBully to him.

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* LoveMartyr: Actually averted more often than not in this novel.Played with. Nastasya returns to Rogozhin despite his being a DomesticAbuser not out of love, but out of self-destruction. Some people assume Myshkin was this for the time he was with Nastasya, but most of his unhappiness in that relationship was due to his tender pity at not being able to help her love herself. Myshkin is actually probably ''more'' of a martyr for Aglaia, who is a LovingBully to him.
4th Jun '16 2:08:12 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* TheDulcineaEffect: Myshkin for Nastasya, in a sense. Aglaia even [[{{Lampshading}}lampshades]] it in her "poor knight" poetry reading, where she indirectly compares Myshkin's championing Nastasya to Don Quixote and the original Dulcinea.

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* TheDulcineaEffect: Myshkin for Nastasya, in a sense. Aglaia even [[{{Lampshading}}lampshades]] [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] it in her "poor knight" poetry reading, where she indirectly compares Myshkin's championing of Nastasya and defending her honor to the knight in the poem, who is an {{Expy}} of Don Quixote and Quixote, champion of the original Dulcinea.
4th Jun '16 2:00:47 PM DearestWindmillGirl
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* TheDulcineaEffect: Myshkin for Nastasya, in a sense. Aglaia even [[{{Lampshading}}lampshades]] it in her "poor knight" poetry reading, where she indirectly compares Myshkin's championing Nastasya to Don Quixote and the original Dulcinea.



* LoveMartyr: Actually averted more often than not in this novel. Nastasya returns to Rogozhin despite his being a DomesticAbuser not out of love, but out of self-destruction. Some people assume Myshkin was this for the time he was with Nastasya, but most of his unhappiness in that relationship was due to his tender pity at not being able to help her love herself. Myshkin is actually probably ''more'' of a martyr for Aglaia, who insults him and laughs at him rather than admitting she loves him.

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* LoveMartyr: Actually averted more often than not in this novel. Nastasya returns to Rogozhin despite his being a DomesticAbuser not out of love, but out of self-destruction. Some people assume Myshkin was this for the time he was with Nastasya, but most of his unhappiness in that relationship was due to his tender pity at not being able to help her love herself. Myshkin is actually probably ''more'' of a martyr for Aglaia, who insults him and laughs at him rather than admitting she loves is a LovingBully to him.
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