History Literature / TheElenium

7th May '17 11:38:36 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* FiveManBand:
** TheHero: Sparhawk.
** TheLancer: Kalten.
** TheSmartGuy: Kurik.
** TheChick: Sephrenia.
** TheBigGuy: Ulath/Tynian/Bevier/Berit.
** {{Tagalong Kid}}s: Talen and Flute.
** Or, if you like, you could make the {{BigGuy}}s their own band-within-a-band: Tynian as the [[TheLancer Big Lancer]], Bevier as the [[TheSmartGuy Big Smart Guy]], Ulath as the [[TheBigGuy Big Guy Squared]], and Berit as the [[TheChick Big Chick]], with Sparhawk as the Big Hero.
** Alternately, Kurik could be considered TheLancer, with Sephrenia as TheSmartGuy and Kalten as PluckyComicRelief.



** The Trolls embody this stereotype almost to a T, to the point of being so primitive it's stated they'd have died off centuries ago if they weren't immortal.
** When [[TokenNonHuman Bhlokw]] the Troll joins the party in the ''Tamuli,'' the species gets a more thorough fleshing-out. Ulath and Tynian even get to like him. Now if only he'd stop [[EatTheDog Eating The Dog]]....
** Also the Dawn-Men, but that's different. In fact only [[spoiler:Cyrgon]] fails to grasp that a Troll is not a Dawn-Man.

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** The Trolls embody this stereotype almost to a T, to the point of being so primitive it's stated they'd have died off centuries ago if they weren't immortal.
** When [[TokenNonHuman Bhlokw]] the Troll joins the party in the ''Tamuli,'' the species gets a more thorough fleshing-out. Ulath
immortal. Essentially nine-foot tall apes, they are incapable of using any weapon other than clubs and Tynian even get tend not to like him. Now if only he'd stop [[EatTheDog Eating The Dog]]....
work in groups, but still possess a language and their own gods.
** Also Trolls, Elenes, and Styrics are all descended from the Dawn-Men, a race of carnivorous apes who walked the earth eons ago. Far larger than Elenes or Styrics, the Dawn-Men were still smaller than Trolls (though even [[MadeOfIron harder to kill]]), and while capable of working in groups and making flint weapons (abilities Styrics and Elenes would later build on, but that's different. In fact only [[spoiler:Cyrgon]] fails to grasp that a Troll is not a Dawn-Man.Trolls would abandon), lacked language skills (something all of their descendants would develop). Cyrgon, amusingly, cannot tell Trolls and Dawn-Men apart.



* HarmlessVillain: Otha. Despite being the most powerful sorcerer in Zemoch and the mastermind behind the catastrophic invasion of the West, he's a FatBastard who can barely galvanize a corpse properly, as that would take ''thought''. Sure, he fought Sephrenia on a pretty even basis, but it's implied that slinging attack spells is not a complicated concept.


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* HumanSubspecies: The first series has the Elenes (taller, capable of logical thinking, decidedly unintuitive), the Styrics (smaller, incapable of logic, very intuitive and connected to their gods) and the Trolls (nine foot tall predatory apes sitting somewhere between KillerGorilla and FrazettaMan). All are descended from the Dawn-Men, a race of huge carnivorous [[FrazettaMan ape-men]] who walked the earth eons previously. The sequel series introduced the various races of the Tamul Empire; how they fit into the equation is not entirely clear, though the Atans' bulk is the result of a breeding program.
6th Apr '17 8:07:39 AM TristanJeremiah
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* MoodWhiplash: This exchange in the third book:
-->'''Sephrenia:'''Sparhawlk, stop! Bhellioum's tampering with your thoughts. Its trying to lure you into using it. Each time you do, its hold on you grows stronger. Think about something else.
-->'''Kurik:''' Like Aphrael? Or is she dangerous too?
-->'''Sephrenia:''' (Smiles)Oh yes, very dangerous. She'll capture your soul even faster than Bhellioum will.
13th Mar '17 5:56:48 AM Steinman76
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*** Khalad resolves to do it anyway, not out of revenge, but because ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure.


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*** Of course, given the number of powerful, violent people who are very, ''very'' angry with him, he may not have escaped for long.
14th Jan '17 6:25:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Klael shows up randomly in the final book of the second series and promptly takes over as BigBad. Once explained it makes sense, and anyone familiar with TheMalloreon could see something like that coming, but it was still rather jarring.

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* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Klael shows up randomly in the final book of the second series and promptly takes over as BigBad. Once explained it makes sense, and anyone familiar with TheMalloreon Literature/TheMalloreon could see something like that coming, but it was still rather jarring.
30th Dec '16 11:58:49 PM Carnildo
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** Also: 'I'm an agnostic, Divine One.' 'Would you like to examine that last sentence for logical consistency, Stragen?'

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** Also: 'I'm an agnostic, Divine One.' 'Would you like to examine that last sentence for logical consistency, Stragen?'Stragen?'[[note]]"Divine One" is the honorific used when addressing a god or goddess.[[/note]]



* DumbBlonde: Subverted by [[ObfuscatingStupidity Melidere]].

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* DumbBlonde: Subverted by [[ObfuscatingStupidity Melidere]]. On the surface, she's Ehlana's air-headed lady-in-waiting. [[spoiler:In practice, she's simultaneously one of Ehlana's chief advisors and a successful white-collar criminal.]]
23rd Dec '16 6:07:03 PM erana
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* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: Sparhawk, twice. See LemonyNarrator below.



* LemonyNarrator: Played with (added to a few isolated examples of it being PlayedForLaughs) when the third person narration of Sparhawk's inner monologue turns into garish PurpleProse, then comments upon Sparhawk noticing it and groaning inwardly. It's actually a minor plot point. Blame [[spoiler:Aphrael]].

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* LemonyNarrator: Played with (added to a few isolated examples of it being PlayedForLaughs) when the third person narration of Sparhawk's inner monologue turns into garish PurpleProse, then comments upon Sparhawk noticing it and groaning inwardly. It's actually a minor plot point. Blame [[spoiler:Aphrael]]. It happens ''again'' but UpToEleven with [[spoiler:Sparhawk/Anakha]] ''[[LeaningOnTheFourthWall actually complaining outwardly about it]]'' at the last book's climax. It's actually a bigger plot point. Blame [[spoiler:Bhelliom]].
23rd Dec '16 2:05:06 AM erana
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* BabiesEverAfter: Only for [[spoiler:Sparhawk and Ehlana]]. Subverted in that their bouncing baby daughter is actually ''[[spoiler: Aphrael.]]'' [[spoiler: [[MindScrew At the same time she exists as Flute]]]]. When they do eventually meet, nobody non-magical suspects a thing except [[spoiler:[[OnlySaneMan Berit]]]], who sees that Sparhawk, Sephrenia, and Vanion are remarkably twitchy about it.

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* BabiesEverAfter: Only for [[spoiler:Sparhawk and Ehlana]]. Subverted in that their bouncing baby daughter is actually ''[[spoiler: Aphrael.]]'' [[spoiler: [[MindScrew At the same time she exists as Flute]]]]. When they do eventually meet, nobody non-magical (or [[EverythingsCuterWithKittens non-human]]) suspects a thing except [[spoiler:[[OnlySaneMan Berit]]]], who sees that Sparhawk, Sephrenia, and Vanion are remarkably twitchy about it.
22nd Dec '16 3:23:20 PM erana
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: There's a big deal made of the Cyrgai ([[{{Expy}} Expies]] of AncientGreece using Phalanx tactics) being hopelessly obsolete against "modern tactics", like the Eastern Peloi javalin-armed light cavalry using hit-and-run tactics. In actuality, said javelin-throwing light cavalry tactic is as ancient as the Phalanx itself, being used by the Persian armies in their war against Greece. Yes, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataeathe one where they were soundly defeated]].

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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: There's a big deal made of the Cyrgai ([[{{Expy}} Expies]] of AncientGreece using Phalanx tactics) being hopelessly obsolete against "modern tactics", like the Eastern Peloi javalin-armed light cavalry using hit-and-run tactics. In actuality, said javelin-throwing light cavalry tactic is as ancient as the Phalanx itself, being used by the Persian armies in their war against Greece. Yes, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataeathe org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea the one where they were soundly defeated]].
22nd Dec '16 3:21:55 PM erana
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: There's a big deal made of the Cyrgai ({{Expie}}s of AncientGreece using Phalanx tactics) being hopelessly obsolete against "modern tactics", like the Eastern Peloi javalin-armed light cavalry using hit-and-run tactics. In actuality, said javelin-throwing light cavalry tactic is as ancient as the Phalanx itself, being used by the Persian armies in their war against Greece. Yes, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataeathe one where they were soundly defeated]].

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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: There's a big deal made of the Cyrgai ({{Expie}}s ([[{{Expy}} Expies]] of AncientGreece using Phalanx tactics) being hopelessly obsolete against "modern tactics", like the Eastern Peloi javalin-armed light cavalry using hit-and-run tactics. In actuality, said javelin-throwing light cavalry tactic is as ancient as the Phalanx itself, being used by the Persian armies in their war against Greece. Yes, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataeathe one where they were soundly defeated]].
22nd Dec '16 3:20:30 PM erana
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: There's a big deal made of the Cyrgai ({{Expie}}s of AncientGreece using Phalanx tactics) being hopelessly obsolete against "modern tactics", like the Eastern Peloi javalin-armed light cavalry using hit-and-run tactics. In actuality, said javelin-throwing light cavalry tactic is as ancient as the Phalanx itself, being used by the Persian armies in their war against Greece. Yes, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataeathe one where they were soundly defeated]].
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