History Literature / ThatWackyRedhead

22nd Jul '17 1:12:56 AM TropesForever
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* Any of the tropes from Modern Who[[note]]AliensOfLondon, BowtiesAreCool, EverybodyLives, TheMissusAndTheEx, PerceptionFilter, TheSlowPath, TimeyWimeyBall[[/note]]: Although the timeline ended in 1986 (with Lucy's interview), it's a given that ''if'' the show gets uncancelled ITTL, it will be a different creature from the OTL version. [[spoiler:Especially since the show originally ended ITTL with the Doctor [[KilledOffForReal running out of regenerations]].]]

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* Any of the tropes from Modern Who[[note]]AliensOfLondon, BowtiesAreCool, EverybodyLives, TheMissusAndTheEx, PerceptionFilter, TheSlowPath, TimeyWimeyBall[[/note]]: Although the timeline ended in 1986 (with Lucy's interview), it's a given that ''if'' the show gets uncancelled ITTL, it will be a different creature from the OTL version. [[spoiler:Especially since the show originally ended ITTL with the Doctor [[KilledOffForReal running out of regenerations]].]]
30th Jun '17 9:08:10 PM BobSaget9
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* CrapsackWorld / AWorldHalfFull Thanks to Desilu not merging with Paramount changes occur both positively '''and''' negatively to the world (in the sense of pop culture), to keep things brief.
-->'''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=7229983&postcount=2428 Brainbin:]]''' I ''told'' you I wasn’t writing a utopia!
** As a point of reference, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5602657&postcount=496 "The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same"]] points out how "race relations are ''generally'' better" in 1971-2 ITTL, just ''generally''.
** Also, the economy is in "better absolute shape" in TTL's 1975.
** Despite NASA going through difficulties, it's still a LOT better than OTL's NASA. [[spoiler:And, given that John Glenn, who promised to revitalize the space program, won the 1980 election...]]



* WorldHalfEmpty: Thanks to Desilu not merging with Paramount changes occur both positively '''and''' negatively to the world (in the sense of pop culture), to keep things brief.
-->'''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=7229983&postcount=2428 Brainbin:]]''' I ''told'' you I wasn’t writing a utopia!
** As a point of reference, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5602657&postcount=496 "The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same"]] points out how "race relations are ''generally'' better" in 1971-2 ITTL, just ''generally''.
** Also, the economy is in "better absolute shape" in TTL's 1975.
** Despite NASA going through difficulties, it's still a LOT better than OTL's NASA. [[spoiler:And, given that John Glenn, who promised to revitalize the space program, won the 1980 election...]]
30th Jun '17 9:06:25 PM BobSaget9
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* WorldHalfEmpty: Thanks to Desilu not merging with Paramount changes occur both positively '''and''' negatively to the world (in the sense of pop culture), to keep things brief.
-->'''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=7229983&postcount=2428 Brainbin:]]''' I ''told'' you I wasn’t writing a utopia!
** As a point of reference, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5602657&postcount=496 "The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same"]] points out how "race relations are ''generally'' better" in 1971-2 ITTL, just ''generally''.
** Also, the economy is in "better absolute shape" in TTL's 1975.
** Despite NASA going through difficulties, it's still a LOT better than OTL's NASA. [[spoiler:And, given that John Glenn, who promised to revitalize the space program, won the 1980 election...]]



* WorldHalfEmpty: Thanks to Desilu not merging with Paramount changes occur both positively '''and''' negatively to the world (in the sense of pop culture), to keep things brief.
-->'''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=7229983&postcount=2428 Brainbin:]]''' I ''told'' you I wasn’t writing a utopia!
** As a point of reference, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5602657&postcount=496 "The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same"]] points out how "race relations are ''generally'' better" in 1971-2 ITTL, just ''generally''.
** Also, the economy is in "better absolute shape" in TTL's 1975.
** Despite NASA going through difficulties, it's still a LOT better than OTL's NASA. [[spoiler:And, given that John Glenn, who promised to revitalize the space program, won the 1980 election...]]
30th Jun '17 9:05:20 PM BobSaget9
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** The timeline ''itself'' is set to end this way, with the final post going to take us back to the 1986 interview where Lucy announces she's retiring.

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** The timeline ''itself'' is was set to end this way, way from the very beginning, with the final post going to take us back to the a 1986 interview where Lucy announces she's retiring.



* ForegoneConclusion: Like it or not, the timeline ''is'' going to end at September 20, 1986, with Lucy's interview with [[InsistentTerminology Baba Wawa]] and the announcement of her retirement.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: ''Maybe'', but: "[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 As far as]] ''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 you]]'' [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 know]], [[spoiler:'Leningrad' may never become an obsolete term ITTL]]".[[note]]Though ''within the context of the TL proper'', that is less of a spoiler/foreshadowing than it might seem. [[spoiler: WordOfGod is the the TL will end in 1986 -- even if the USSR falls [[InSpiteOfANail roughly on schedule]]]], it wouldn't have the slightest effect on ''That Wacky Redhead''.[[/note]]
** More in-line with the boundaries of the timeline itself, we have this bit from the end of "Appendix C, Part IV: [[spoiler:The Trial of the Century]]":

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* ForegoneConclusion: Like it or not, the timeline ''is'' going to end has ended at September 20, 1986, with Lucy's interview with [[InsistentTerminology Baba Wawa]] and the announcement of her retirement.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: ''Maybe'', but: "[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 As far as]] ''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 you]]'' [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5634707&postcount=520 know]], [[spoiler:'Leningrad' may never become an obsolete term ITTL]]".[[note]]Though ''within the context of the TL proper'', that is less of a spoiler/foreshadowing than it might seem. [[spoiler: WordOfGod is the the TL will end in 1986 -- even if the USSR falls [[InSpiteOfANail roughly on schedule]]]], it wouldn't have the slightest effect on ''That Wacky Redhead''.[[/note]]
{{Foreshadowing}}:
** More in-line with the boundaries of the timeline itself, we have Consider this bit from the end of "Appendix C, Part IV: [[spoiler:The Trial of the Century]]":



* {{Futureshadowing}}: The 1986 interview ''in spades''.

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* {{Futureshadowing}}: The first portion of the 1986 interview ''in spades''.



* Any of the tropes from Modern Who[[note]]AliensOfLondon, BowtiesAreCool, EverybodyLives, TheMissusAndTheEx, PerceptionFilter, TheSlowPath, TimeyWimeyBall[[/note]]: Although the timeline is going to end in 1986 (with Lucy's interview), it's a given that ''if'' the show gets uncancelled ITTL, it will be a different creature from the OTL version.

to:

* Any of the tropes from Modern Who[[note]]AliensOfLondon, BowtiesAreCool, EverybodyLives, TheMissusAndTheEx, PerceptionFilter, TheSlowPath, TimeyWimeyBall[[/note]]: Although the timeline is going to end ended in 1986 (with Lucy's interview), it's a given that ''if'' the show gets uncancelled ITTL, it will be a different creature from the OTL version.version. [[spoiler:Especially since the show originally ended ITTL with the Doctor [[KilledOffForReal running out of regenerations]].]]
30th Jun '17 9:00:52 PM BobSaget9
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** "[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=11628750&postcount=4451 The Doctor is Out]]". ''Series/DoctorWho'' being cancelled was unavoidable, even if it's being done four years earlier than OTL. But, where the wham ''truly'' lies is in the ''In-Universe'' Wham Episode / Series Finale "Requiem for a Time Lord". Long story short, [[spoiler:it turns out that TTL's regeneration limit... is '''four''']].

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** "[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=11628750&postcount=4451 The Doctor is Out]]". ''Series/DoctorWho'' being cancelled was unavoidable, even if it's being done four years earlier than OTL. But, where the wham ''truly'' lies is in the ''In-Universe'' Wham Episode / Series Finale WhamEpisode [[spoiler: and SeriesFinale]] "Requiem for a Time Lord". Long story short, [[spoiler:it turns out that TTL's regeneration limit... is '''four''']].
30th Jun '17 8:59:17 PM BobSaget9
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* MissingEpisode: The "Feast of Steven" episode of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Dalek's Master Plan]]". Due to Desilu stepping in to buy the syndication rights to ''Doctor Who'' '''after''' this episode got wiped, this is TTL's only missing episode.

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* MissingEpisode: The "Feast "[[{{In-universe}} Feast of Steven" Steven]]" episode of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Dalek's Master Plan]]". Due to Desilu stepping in to buy the syndication rights to ''Doctor Who'' '''after''' this episode got wiped, this is TTL's only missing episode.
30th Jun '17 8:58:52 PM BobSaget9
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* UsefulNotes/TheTroubles, as discussed in [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=7645631&postcount=2833 this post]][[note]]It's the last response.[[/note]] and in [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=6128942&postcount=1084 this post]], [[spoiler:have been butterflied away ITTL]].


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* MissingEpisode: The "Feast of Steven" episode of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS3E4TheDaleksMasterPlan The Dalek's Master Plan]]". Due to Desilu stepping in to buy the syndication rights to ''Doctor Who'' '''after''' this episode got wiped, this is TTL's only missing episode.
18th Jun '17 6:19:00 AM themisterfree
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* [=SelectaVision=] does ''better'' than in IOTL: a projected 200,000 figure in the beginning of 1978, with over ''250,000'' being shipped New Years Day with over 100 launch titles.[[note]]IOTL, only 100,000 were sold in 1981, with only 50 launch titles.[[/note]]

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* [=SelectaVision=] [[UsefulNotes/{{CED}} [=SelectaVision=]]] (RCA's cockamamie vinyl-record based videodisc system) does ''better'' than in IOTL: a projected 200,000 figure in the beginning of 1978, with over ''250,000'' being shipped New Years Day with over 100 launch titles.[[note]]IOTL, only 100,000 were sold in 1981, with only 50 launch titles.[[/note]]



* Thanks to [=ABC=] being in such dire straits ITTL, they were convinced to pick up ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' for syndication (after agreeing to air "The Muppets Valentine Show") in 197''4'', two years before the show's OTL premiere.[[note]]Plus, OTL's ''Muppet Show'' was produced under [=ATV=], a UK television company, due to no American television companies being interested.[[/note]]

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* Thanks to [=ABC=] being in such dire straits ITTL, they were convinced to pick up ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' for syndication (after agreeing to air "The Muppets Valentine Show") in 197''4'', two years before the show's OTL premiere.[[note]]Plus, OTL's ''Muppet Show'' was produced under [=ATV=], a UK television company, due to no American television companies being interested.interested, and sold it in syndication via their international arm ITC Entertainment, most notably to the CBS owned stations.[[/note]]
27th May '17 12:29:26 PM nombretomado
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* Jumping back to 1968 for a minute, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5351938&postcount=53 this]] coverage of the 1968 presidential election reveals that one of the factors in [[spoiler:Humphrey's lead]] was "[[spoiler:the announcement of a bombing halt in their quagmire of [[TheVietnamWar an overseas conflict]], and a resulting peace conference.]]"[[note]][[spoiler:Nixon's people, seeing that he was going to lose, weren't able to pull out of those talks as opposed to IOTL.]][[/note]]

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* Jumping back to 1968 for a minute, [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5351938&postcount=53 this]] coverage of the 1968 presidential election reveals that one of the factors in [[spoiler:Humphrey's lead]] was "[[spoiler:the announcement of a bombing halt in their quagmire of [[TheVietnamWar [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar an overseas conflict]], and a resulting peace conference.]]"[[note]][[spoiler:Nixon's people, seeing that he was going to lose, weren't able to pull out of those talks as opposed to IOTL.]][[/note]]
27th May '17 12:27:44 PM nombretomado
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* TWordEuphemism: The author never refers to "[[TheVietnamWar the V-word]]" explicitly, only referring to it as an "overseas quagmire", as part of an InJoke about how that topic tends to dominate American-penned AlternateHistory timelines set in this period. [[spoiler:It helps that it apparently ended in 1969 through peace talks.]]

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* TWordEuphemism: The author never refers to "[[TheVietnamWar "[[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar the V-word]]" explicitly, only referring to it as an "overseas quagmire", as part of an InJoke about how that topic tends to dominate American-penned AlternateHistory timelines set in this period. [[spoiler:It helps that it apparently ended in 1969 through peace talks.]]
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