History Literature / SecondApocalypse

11th Jan '17 12:50:43 PM SimiOfDoom
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* NoIndoorVoice: [[spoiler: Wutteät, the father of dragons]], whom Achamian encounters [[spoiler: in the ruins of the library of Sauglish]], spits out his entire dialogue VERY LOUDLY .The fandom even jokingly calls him [[spoiler: [[FanNickname ALL-CAPS DRAGON]]]].
--> IS NOT TRUTH INFINITE?
6th Nov '16 9:10:30 PM LuckyCharms
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* EastyLogistics: Averted. The importance of armies maintaining supply lines and logistics is emphasized many times.

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* EastyLogistics: EasyLogistics: Averted. The importance of armies maintaining supply lines and logistics is emphasized many times.
6th Nov '16 9:10:10 PM LuckyCharms
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*EastyLogistics: Averted. The importance of armies maintaining supply lines and logistics is emphasized many times.
**More Inrithi die during the march through the Carathay desert than ''all other battles'' during the Holy War—all because the Nansur supply fleet is destroyed at Trantis Bay.
**After the rest of the Three Seas are subjugated, it takes ''eight years'' for the New Empire to gather enough supplies and food in order to sustain the Great Ordeal's arduous march to confront the Consult. It's repeated many times that between the battles with the Consult's legions and the physical march itself, the logistics of supplying the march of the Ordeal are the more dangerous.
3rd Nov '16 11:30:41 AM SolipSchism
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* BookEnds: The first trilogy, the ''Prince of Nothing'', both begins (after the prologue) and ends with a man going into exile. Because the Dûnyain tolerate no contamination from the outside world, it's made clear that Kellhus can never return; and at the end of the trilogy, Achamian renounces both his School and the Aspect-Emperor, making himself doubly-anathema to the people of the Three Seas. The events of the second trilogy make the comparison even more apt, although Achamian's journey doesn't begin until some time after the end of the first trilogy: Both men set out on a journey to cross the northern wastes on a quest to learn more about a Dûnyain. Kellhus travels from Ishuäl to the Three Seas to learn about his father, while Achamian travels from the Three Seas to Ishuäl to learn about Kellhus's origins.

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* BookEnds: The first trilogy, the ''Prince of Nothing'', both begins (after the prologue) and ends with a man going into exile. Because the Dûnyain tolerate no contamination from the outside world, it's made clear that Kellhus can never return; and at the end of the trilogy, Achamian renounces both his School and the Aspect-Emperor, making himself doubly-anathema to the people of the Three Seas. The events of the second trilogy ''The Aspect-Emperor'' series make the comparison even more apt, although Achamian's journey doesn't begin until some time after the end of the first trilogy: Both men set out on a journey to cross the northern wastes on a quest to learn more about a Dûnyain. Kellhus travels from Ishuäl to the Three Seas to learn about his father, while Achamian travels from the Three Seas to Ishuäl to learn about Kellhus's origins.
3rd Nov '16 11:29:42 AM SolipSchism
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* BookEnds: The first trilogy, the ''Prince of Nothing'', both begins (after the prologue) and ends with a man going into exile. Because the Dûnyain tolerate no contamination from the outside world, it's made clear that Kellhus can never return; and at the end of the trilogy, Achamian renounces both his School and the Aspect-Emperor, making himself doubly-anathema to the people of the Three Seas. The events of the second trilogy make the comparison even more apt, although Achamian's journey doesn't begin until some time after the end of the first trilogy: Both men set out on a journey to cross the northern wastes on a quest to learn more about a Dûnyain. Kellhus travels from Ishuäl to the Three Seas to learn about his father, while Achamian travels from the Three Seas to Ishuäl to learn about Kellhus's origins.
3rd Nov '16 11:22:04 AM SolipSchism
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* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: * Knowledge of sorcery is jealously guarded by the Schools, which are divided up in categories based on the type of magic they use (primarily Gnostic and Anagogic sorcery). There's also the [[{{Magitek}} Tekne]] of the Consult and the [[EmotionalPowers Psûkhe]] of the Cishaurim (who [[YouKeepUsingThatWord technically aren't a School]] according to the characters, but whatever). At the beginning of the series, there's no known example of a person capable of using more than a single type of sorcery, even though hypothetically there's nothing about the magic itself stopping them, simply because a) you have to join a School before they'll teach you anything, and b) no School would ever give away its sorcerous secrets to someone who has already joined another School. [[spoiler:Kellhus dispels the idea that you can't learn sorcery without joining a School when he convinces Achamian to teach him the Gnosis, and being the master manipulator that he is, he could certainly convince another School to give up its secrets to him--but the Gnosis is ''insanely'' powerful compared to all other forms of sorcery, so there wouldn't be much point]].

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* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: * Knowledge of sorcery is jealously guarded by the Schools, which are divided up in categories based on the type of magic they use (primarily Gnostic and Anagogic sorcery). There's also the [[{{Magitek}} Tekne]] of the Consult and the [[EmotionalPowers Psûkhe]] of the Cishaurim (who [[YouKeepUsingThatWord technically aren't a School]] according to the characters, but whatever). At the beginning of the series, there's no known example of a person capable of using more than a single type of sorcery, even though hypothetically there's nothing about the magic itself stopping them, simply because a) you have to join a School before they'll teach you anything, and b) no School would ever give away its sorcerous secrets to someone who has already joined another School. [[spoiler:Kellhus dispels the idea that you can't learn sorcery without joining a School when he convinces Achamian to teach him the Gnosis, and being the master manipulator that he is, he could certainly convince another School to give up its secrets to him--but the Gnosis is ''insanely'' powerful compared to all other forms of sorcery, so there wouldn't be much point]].
3rd Nov '16 11:21:44 AM SolipSchism
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* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: * Knowledge of sorcery is jealously guarded by the Schools, which are divided up in categories based on the type of magic they use (primarily Gnostic and Anagogic sorcery). There's also the [[{{Magitek}} Tekne]] of the Consult and the [[EmotionalPowers Psûkhe]] of the Cishaurim (who [[YouKeepUsingThatWord technically aren't a School]] according to the characters, but whatever). At the beginning of the series, there's no known example of a person capable of using more than a single type of sorcery, even though hypothetically there's nothing about the magic itself stopping them, simply because a) you have to join a School before they'll teach you anything, and b) no School would ever give away its sorcerous secrets to someone who has already joined another School. [[spoiler:Kellhus dispels the idea that you can't learn sorcery without joining a School when he convinces Achamian to teach him the Gnosis, and being the master manipulator that he is, he could certainly convince another School to give up its secrets to him--but the Gnosis is ''insanely'' powerful compared to all other forms of sorcery, so there wouldn't be much point]].
7th Oct '16 3:35:10 PM LuckyCharms
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*** The entire story of the Skin Eaters is an homage to ''Literature/BloodMeridian''. It's complete with a faux-western boom town in Marrow, a ferocious and reticent character simply referred to as the Captain, and a pale-skinned, hairless, sermonizing figure in Cleric.

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*** The entire story of the Skin Eaters is an homage to ''Literature/BloodMeridian''. It's complete with a faux-western boom town boomtown in Marrow, a ferocious and reticent character simply referred to as the Captain, and a pale-skinned, hairless, sermonizing figure in Cleric.
7th Oct '16 8:25:22 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** There are a smattering of allusions to the works of CormacMcCarthy.
*** The entire story of the Skin Eaters is an homage to BloodMeridian. Its complete with a faux-western boom town in Marrow, a ferocious character simply referred to as the Captain, and a pale-skinned philosophical figure in Cleric.
*** There is also an homage to TheRoad with [[spoiler:Koringhus and his son, the Boy]]. A father and son who survive a tremendous apocalyptic event and struggle to continue living. This culminates with the eventual [[spoiler:death of the father, and his son being "adopted" by new surrogate parents]].

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** There are a smattering of allusions to the works of CormacMcCarthy.
Creator/CormacMcCarthy.
*** The entire story of the Skin Eaters is an homage to BloodMeridian. Its ''Literature/BloodMeridian''. It's complete with a faux-western boom town in Marrow, a ferocious and reticent character simply referred to as the Captain, and a pale-skinned philosophical pale-skinned, hairless, sermonizing figure in Cleric.
*** There is also an homage to TheRoad ''Literature/TheRoad'' with [[spoiler:Koringhus and his son, the Boy]]. A father and son who survive a tremendous apocalyptic event and struggle to continue living. This culminates with the eventual [[spoiler:death of the father, and his son being "adopted" by new surrogate parents]].
6th Oct '16 4:11:06 PM LuckyCharms
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** There are a smattering of allusions to the works of CormacMcarthy.

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** There are a smattering of allusions to the works of CormacMcarthy.CormacMcCarthy.
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