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10th Jun '16 1:26:15 AM Morgenthaler
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''Rule 34'' is a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture near-future]] ScienceFiction novel by Creator/CharlesStross, released in 2011, a sequel to ''HaltingState''.

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''Rule 34'' is a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture near-future]] ScienceFiction novel by Creator/CharlesStross, released in 2011, a sequel to ''HaltingState''.
''Literature/HaltingState''.
23rd Apr '16 8:47:07 PM aye_amber
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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he tells the reader not to mention the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] or, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Operation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]]. And later in the book various people identify him as a "narcissist psychopath".

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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he tells the reader not to mention the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests [[Film/BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]] [[note]] tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] empathy [[/note]] or, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's PCL-R]] [[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] Revised [[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Operation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]]. And later in the book various people identify him as a "narcissist psychopath". psychopath."
21st Oct '15 12:26:59 AM VioletVisions
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*** But The Toymaker mentions unfortunately not knowing where the local cruising spots are [[note]]Ironically, for a book so obsessed with smart phone technology, the author seems to have been completely unaware of the existence of Grindr and similar locate-likeminded-people-near-you hook-up apps that had replaced traditional gay cruising spots by the time the book was written.[[/note]] and seems quite familiar with London Pride. That indicates he's bisexual as well. The only major characters identified as straight (by ommission of any hints of same sex interests) were the Colonel Felix Datka and his President friend, Anwar's wife, and perhaps Kemal.

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*** But The Toymaker mentions unfortunately not knowing where the local cruising spots are [[note]]Ironically, for a book so obsessed with smart phone technology, the author seems to have been completely unaware of the existence of Grindr and similar locate-likeminded-people-near-you hook-up apps that had replaced traditional gay cruising spots by the time the book was written.[[/note]] and seems quite familiar with London Pride. That indicates he's bisexual as well. The only major characters identified as straight (by ommission of any hints of same sex interests) were the Colonel Felix Datka and his President friend, Anwar's wife, and perhaps Kemal.



** And in the end, [[spoiler: we see through ATHENA's 'eyes', who uses the drones and cameras to keep an eye on her 'meat puppets'.]]

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** And in the end, [[spoiler: we briefly see through ATHENA's 'eyes', POV, who uses the drones and cameras to keep an eye on her 'meat puppets'."meat puppets".]]


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* TheSociopath: The Toymaker is a very clear-cut example and it's lampshaded many times in the book. Apparently his version of antisocial personality disorder is genetic.
21st Oct '15 12:15:47 AM VioletVisions
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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he tells the reader not to mention the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] or, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].

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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he tells the reader not to mention the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] or, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation Operation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]]. And later in the book various people identify him as a "narcissist psychopath".
* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Or at least all the bisexuals (Anwar habitually cheats on his wife; Dorothy is polyamourous and doesn't want commitment; the Toymaker normally relies on sex workers and gay cruising) and the gay men (Adam has many "on-again-off-again boyfriends" according to Anwar). Even the LGTB murder victims (Micheal and Vivienne) turn out to have had busy sexual histories and died during sexual escapades with hook-ups or sex workers. (The straight victims died in normal houshold accidents - electrocuted by a faulty kitchen machine or in the bath, for example.) The only monogamous queer character is Liz, the lesbian.


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*** But The Toymaker mentions unfortunately not knowing where the local cruising spots are [[note]]Ironically, for a book so obsessed with smart phone technology, the author seems to have been completely unaware of the existence of Grindr and similar locate-likeminded-people-near-you hook-up apps that had replaced traditional gay cruising spots by the time the book was written.[[/note]] and seems quite familiar with London Pride. That indicates he's bisexual as well. The only major characters identified as straight (by ommission of any hints of same sex interests) were the Colonel Felix Datka and his President friend, Anwar's wife, and perhaps Kemal.


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** And in the end, [[spoiler: we see through ATHENA's 'eyes', who uses the drones and cameras to keep an eye on her 'meat puppets'.]]
20th Oct '15 2:48:06 PM VioletVisions
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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he reacts badly to being asked about the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] and, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].

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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he reacts badly tells the reader not to being asked about mention the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy[[/note]] and, or, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].
20th Oct '15 2:43:15 PM VioletVisions
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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he reacts badly to being asked about the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note: tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy]] and, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note: that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].

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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he reacts badly to being asked about the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note: tests Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note]]tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy]] empathy[[/note]] and, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note: that's PCL-R]][[note]]that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised]] Revised[[/note]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].
20th Oct '15 2:41:26 PM VioletVisions
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** Nothing ambiguous about it. His narration says the medication is against paranoid schizophrenia, and in addition he's got a self-admitted personality disorder that lets him lie without showing the same signs as most other people, that makes him avoid airports because they analyse the camera footage for antisocial behavoir patterns, and he reacts badly to being asked about the [[BladeRunner Voigt-Kampff-Test]][[note: tests whether you're human or a robot by checking for empathy]] and, even more obviously, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist PCL-R]][[note: that's the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised]] test. Later, the short chapter about his bosses outright states that The Organisation specifically hires people with [[TheSociopath antisocial personality disorder]].
21st Feb '14 6:15:00 AM TrustBen
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[[IThoughtItMeant Not To Be Confused With]] {{Rule 34}}, which is something else entirely (although it is what the book is named for).

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[[IThoughtItMeant Not To Be Confused With]] {{Rule 34}}, which is something else entirely (although it is what the book is named for). The titular police division tracks crimes that operate on a similar "if you can think of it, it's out there" principle.


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* BreakingTheFourthWall: Some of John Christie's sections break out of the novel's SecondPersonNarration so that "Christie" can address the reader directly. Apparently Christie suspects that we're [[MindScrew figments of his addled brain]].
21st Feb '14 6:08:25 AM TrustBen
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* AmbiguousDisorder: The Toymaker is by his own account not neurotypical and relies on meds to maintain the control his job requires. When those meds are unavailable he demonstrates symptoms of a schizophrenia type disorder.
9th Dec '13 10:23:10 AM nombretomado
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''Rule 34'' is a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture near-future]] ScienceFiction novel by CharlesStross, released in 2011, a sequel to ''HaltingState''.

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''Rule 34'' is a [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture near-future]] ScienceFiction novel by CharlesStross, Creator/CharlesStross, released in 2011, a sequel to ''HaltingState''.
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