History Literature / OldMansWar

23rd Dec '16 6:26:40 AM PaulA
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* TheBadGuyWins: How [[spoiler:''The Human Division'']] ends, with [[spoiler:the conspiracy succeeding in driving a permanent wedge between Earth and the Colonial Union.]]

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* TheBadGuyWins: How [[spoiler:''The Human Division'']] ends, with [[spoiler:the conspiracy succeeding in driving a permanent wedge between Earth and the Colonial Union.]]]] The tables are turned in the following book, however.



* ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder: In ''The Human Division''.
-->'''Dr. Danielle Lowen:''' I have no idea, Jim. I'm a doctor, not a private investigator.



* StarCrossedLovers: Harry and Danielle look like they're heading in that direction by the end of ''The Human Division.''

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* StarCrossedLovers: Harry and Danielle look like they're heading in that direction by the end of ''The Human Division.'' Division''. [[spoiler:By the end of ''The End of All Things'', they appear to have the "star-crossed" bit sorted out.]]



* ThanatosGambit: In ''The End of All Things'', [[spoiler:General Gau arranges for his own assassination in the middle of a speech to the assembled representatives of the Conclave, creating a crisis situation that catapults his aide into the top job and inspires the representatives to pull together against a common threat.]]



* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: Subverted.

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* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: Subverted. At first it's taken for granted that Earth of the future is still recognizable to a reader in the early 21st century, but then the characters start questioning it, and it turns out the Colonial Union has been deliberately holding back Earth's social and technological development.
23rd Dec '16 6:05:37 AM PaulA
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* GovernmentConspiracy (see BatmanGambit below)

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* GovernmentConspiracy (see BatmanGambit below)GovernmentConspiracy
23rd Dec '16 6:04:16 AM PaulA
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** FridgeBrilliance as well - The "mystery" of the real Roanoke isn't really a mystery; the colonists all went off to join the native Americans. [[spoiler:Which is exactly what the Perry family does by the end of ''The Last Colony''.]]
23rd Dec '16 6:04:03 AM PaulA
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** It's weird in 2014 how Bender, described as "two time Democratic senator from Massachusetts, former ambassador to France, Japan, and the United Nations, Secretary of State in the otherwise disastrous Crowe administration," sounds in 2014 like a possible {{Expy}} for John Kerry, who wouldn't become Secretary of State until 8 years after the book was published.
23rd Dec '16 6:03:30 AM PaulA
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* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: All members of the CDF look like in their mid-twenties (with green skin and feline eyes).
23rd Dec '16 6:02:44 AM PaulA
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** Possibly also an example of ItAmusedMe.
23rd Dec '16 6:01:18 AM PaulA
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* [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Means We Tolerate You For A Bit]]: Want answers from the Consu? Their religion ''does'' allow you that right. You have to kill their dishonored criminals in single combat to the death. (In case you were wondering, the average Consu is 8' tall, covered in a sturdy exoskeleton, and has a set of mantis-like limbs that come in handy for disembowelments.) For each one your side kills, they will truthfully answer one question of your choice.



* [[NeverAcceptedInHisHometown Never Accepted On His Homeplanet]]: Big time {{masquerade}}.
23rd Dec '16 5:56:06 AM PaulA
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** BenevolentAlienInvasion: [[spoiler:Earth's enforced isolation is ended by a Conclave trade fleet.]]



* [[spoiler:TheBadGuyWins: How ''The Human Division'' ends, with the conspiracy succeeding in driving a permanent wedge between Earth and the Colonial Union.]]
* BatmanGambit in multiple ways: [[spoiler:In ''The Ghost Brigades'', Charles Boutin's attempts to gain revenge on the Colonial Union and repeated adapting to changes in plans; In ''The Last Colony'', they're all over the place--The Colonial Union's attempt to destroy the Conclave, John Perry's plan to defeat Admiral Eser, and the most convoluted, General Szilard's "plan" to bring the Special Forces into the open.]]
* BiotechIsBetter: In the later novels the CDF starts phasing out the cybernetic [[BrainComputerInterface BrainPals]] in favor of completely biotech ones. It's implied that their long-term goal is to introduce the genes to the baseline human population. In addition the [[SpacePeople Gameras]] are 100% biotech in contrast to the CDF's normal soldiers that are a mixture of bio- cyber- and nanotech with the objective of eventually making them capable of breeding true and forming a human species that doesn't need to compete with aliens for planets.

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* [[spoiler:TheBadGuyWins: TheBadGuyWins: How ''The [[spoiler:''The Human Division'' Division'']] ends, with the [[spoiler:the conspiracy succeeding in driving a permanent wedge between Earth and the Colonial Union.]]
* BatmanGambit in multiple ways: [[spoiler:In BatmanGambit:
** In
''The Ghost Brigades'', Charles [[spoiler:Charles Boutin's attempts to gain revenge on the Colonial Union and repeated adapting to changes in plans; plans]].
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In ''The Last Colony'', they're [[spoiler:they're all over the place--The Colonial Union's attempt to destroy the Conclave, John Perry's plan to defeat Admiral Eser, and the most convoluted, General Szilard's "plan" to bring the Special Forces into the open.]]
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* BiotechIsBetter: BenevolentAlienInvasion: [[spoiler:Earth's enforced isolation is ended by a Conclave trade fleet.]]
* BiotechIsBetter:
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In the later novels the CDF starts phasing out the cybernetic [[BrainComputerInterface BrainPals]] in favor of completely biotech ones. It's implied that their long-term goal is to introduce the genes to the baseline human population. In addition the population.
** The
[[SpacePeople Gameras]] are 100% biotech in contrast to the CDF's normal soldiers that are a mixture of bio- cyber- and nanotech with the objective of eventually making them capable of breeding true and forming a human species that doesn't need to compete with aliens for planets.



* BolivianArmyEnding: Near the end of ''The Ghost Brigades, [[spoiler:Harvey]] is left alone on a planet swarming with hostile Obin, with days until possible rescue. The next chapter [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome strongly implies he survived]].
* BrainInAJar: Mentioned in ''The Ghost Brigades'' as the CDF punishment for refusing direct orders. [[spoiler:The [[TheConspiracy Evil Conspiracy]] in ''The Human Division'' uses them to turn spacecraft into drones, with the added bonus of making it look like the Colonial Union is behind things, thanks to the aforementioned punishment.]]
* BrainUploading: Central to the series. The CDF recruits retirees and transfers their adult consciousness into a speed-grown SuperSoldier body partially based on their DNA. Their Special Forces are ''fully'' synthetic people given a 'starter personality' by nanotech in their brains, but these soldiers - while superior - lack emotional maturity... and [[FantasticRacism aren't completely trusted]] by their GenreSavvy creators.

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* BolivianArmyEnding: Near the end of ''The Ghost Brigades, Brigades'', [[spoiler:Harvey]] is left alone on a planet swarming with hostile Obin, with days until possible rescue. The next chapter [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome strongly implies he survived]].
* BrainInAJar: BrainInAJar:
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Mentioned in ''The Ghost Brigades'' as the CDF punishment for refusing direct orders. [[spoiler:The orders.
** In ''The Human Division'', [[spoiler:the
[[TheConspiracy Evil Conspiracy]] in ''The Human Division'' uses them to turn spacecraft into drones, with the added bonus of making it look like the Colonial Union is behind things, thanks to the aforementioned punishment.]]
* BrainUploading: BrainUploading:
**
Central to the series. The CDF recruits retirees and transfers their adult consciousness into a speed-grown SuperSoldier body partially based on their DNA. Their Special Forces are ''fully'' synthetic people given a 'starter personality' by nanotech in their brains, but these soldiers - while superior - lack emotional maturity... and [[FantasticRacism aren't completely trusted]] by their GenreSavvy creators.



* BullyingADragon: The CU's plan to break the Conclave turns into this. [[spoiler:They humiliate the Conclave by using Roanoke as bait for their unified fleet and destroy it. Somehow they didn't realize that nearly every ship in the fleet was the flagship of each member race, meaning they just gave 412 different races a personal kick in the nuts.]] So they get the internal strife they wanted, but [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it's largely over whether or not to wipe out all humanity in retaliation]]. Turns out, though, that it worked out better than it seemed it would when it happened, as explained in the Conclave chapter of The Human Division.

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* BullyingADragon: BullyingADragon:
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The CU's plan to break the Conclave turns into this. [[spoiler:They humiliate the Conclave by using Roanoke as bait for their unified fleet and destroy it. Somehow they didn't realize that nearly every ship in the fleet was the flagship of each member race, meaning they just gave 412 different races a personal kick in the nuts.]] So they get the internal strife they wanted, but [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it's largely over whether or not to wipe out all humanity in retaliation]]. Turns out, though, that it worked out better than it seemed it would when it happened, as explained in the Conclave chapter of The ''The Human Division.Division''.



* ChekhovsGun: [[spoiler:Weaponized [=SmartBlood=] and the use of trees climbing to avoid hostile guns in ''The Ghost Brigades''.]]

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* ChekhovsGun: [[spoiler:Weaponized [=SmartBlood=] and the use of trees climbing to avoid hostile guns guns]] in ''The Ghost Brigades''.]]



* ColonyDrop: In ''The Ghost Brigades'', one of the techniques used by the Special Forces to cover their tracks is to drop an asteroid on the site of their activities. They've apparently used this trick often enough to become very good at making it look like an accident. They also drop asteroids (with some pre-placed seismic sensors) to spot underground caves and complexes.

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* ColonyDrop: ColonyDrop:
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In ''The Ghost Brigades'', one of the techniques used by the Special Forces to cover their tracks is to drop an asteroid on the site of their activities. They've apparently used this trick often enough to become very good at making it look like an accident. They also drop asteroids (with some pre-placed seismic sensors) to spot underground caves and complexes.



* DyingMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler:Jared Dirac planting a Trojan Horse virus in his body that will destroy it when the guy taking it over opens a message explaining just how screwed he is.]]
** Also [[spoiler: Captain Coloma]] at the end of all things.

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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: DyingMomentOfAwesome:
** In ''The Ghost Brigades'',
[[spoiler:Jared Dirac planting a Trojan Horse virus in his body that will destroy it when the guy taking it over opens a message explaining just how screwed he is.]]
** Also [[spoiler: Captain Coloma]] at the end of all things.In ''The Human Division'', [[spoiler:Captain Coloma]].



* FirstPersonSmartass: John, Zoe, and Harry. Especially Harry for his chapter of "The End of All Things". In contrast, the ''Sagan Diaries'' indicates that Jane is exactly as fun in her head as she is in person.

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* FirstPersonSmartass: John, Zoe, and Harry. Especially Harry for his chapter of "The ''The End of All Things".Things''. In contrast, the ''Sagan Diaries'' indicates that Jane is exactly as fun in her head as she is in person.



* {{Gendercide}}:The Crimp which made 1/3 of Earth's male population sterile.
* [[GladToBeAliveSex Glad To Be Alive Orgy]]: In ''The Ghost Brigades'' this is apparently a tradition after each mission for the Special Forces.

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* {{Gendercide}}:The {{Gendercide}}: The Crimp which made 1/3 of Earth's male population sterile.
* [[GladToBeAliveSex Glad To Be Alive Orgy]]: GladToBeAliveSex: In ''The Ghost Brigades'' this is apparently a tradition after each mission for the Special Forces.



* GraveMarkingScene: The first thing John Perry did on his seventy-fifth birthday was visit his wife's grave. Similarly, Zoe Boutin visits her family grave at the end of ''The Ghost Brigades''.

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* GraveMarkingScene: GraveMarkingScene:
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The first thing John Perry did on his seventy-fifth birthday birthday, at the beginning of ''Old Man's War'', was visit his wife's grave. Similarly, grave.
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Zoe Boutin visits her family grave at the end of ''The Ghost Brigades''.



* GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe: The members of the CDF, their skin is photosynthetic, they are all in perfect physical shape, they won't age past appearing to be in their early twenties, and they are possibly even altered to look sexier than their normal genetics would allow to encourage bonding and to exploit the natural human tendency to treat good looking people better.
** Ruiz calls out minorities during his spiel at the start of basic training... then yells "BULLSHIT! You're all green!" (He has NWordPrivileges, since his original body was Hispanic.)
* GreyAndGreyMorality: And plenty of it. Interestingly, it's often the Colonial Union (i.e., ''humanity'') that comes across as a slightly darker shade of grey, though it's a very close-run thing.
* GuiltFreeExterminationWar: The CDF leadership seems to feel this way in regards to their alien neighbors. It's not an entirely uncommon feeling: if nothing else, spacefaring races almost categorically refuse to share planets with each other, and exterminating someone else's colony prior to establishing your own is common practice.
** Subverted, however, by the narrative itself (which doesn't seem to agree with this), and by the fact that enough people eventually got fed up with this to form the [[TheFederation Conclave]].

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* GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe: The members of the CDF, their skin is photosynthetic, they are all in perfect physical shape, they won't age past appearing to be in their early twenties, and they are possibly even altered to look sexier than their normal genetics would allow to encourage bonding and to exploit the natural human tendency to treat good looking people better.
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better. Ruiz calls out minorities during his spiel at the start of basic training... then yells "BULLSHIT! You're all green!" (He has NWordPrivileges, since his original body was Hispanic.)
* GreyAndGreyMorality: GreyAndGrayMorality: And plenty of it. Interestingly, it's often the Colonial Union (i.e., ''humanity'') that comes across as a slightly darker shade of grey, though it's a very close-run thing.
* GuiltFreeExterminationWar: The CDF leadership seems to feel this way in regards to their alien neighbors. It's not an entirely uncommon feeling: if nothing else, spacefaring races almost categorically refuse to share planets with each other, and exterminating someone else's colony prior to establishing your own is common practice.
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practice. Subverted, however, by the narrative itself (which doesn't seem to agree with this), and by the fact that enough people eventually got fed up with this to form the [[TheFederation Conclave]].



* ItsRainingMen: When using a DropShip to land on a hostile planet is unworkable, the CDF troopers can sky-dive from orbit, protected by a heat shield made from nanomachines which turns into a parachute before landing. While sometimes used by regular CDF troopers, this is a Special Forces signature move.
** In "The Human Division", this maneuver is used [[spoiler: for Wilson and Danielle to escape the destruction of Earth Station.]]
* KickTheDog: The CU does this a few times in each book, with increasing severity as the story goes along.
** [[spoiler: Equilibrium]] does almost nothing but this throughout ''The Human Division.''

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* ItsRainingMen: ItsRainingMen:
**
When using a DropShip to land on a hostile planet is unworkable, the CDF troopers can sky-dive from orbit, protected by a heat shield made from nanomachines which turns into a parachute before landing. While sometimes used by regular CDF troopers, this is a Special Forces signature move.
** In "The ''The Human Division", Division'', this maneuver is used [[spoiler: for [[spoiler:for Wilson and Danielle to escape the destruction of Earth Station.]]
* KickTheDog: KickTheDog:
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The CU does this a few times in each book, with increasing severity as the story goes along.
** [[spoiler: Equilibrium]] [[spoiler:Equilibrium]] does almost nothing but this throughout ''The Human Division.'' Division''.



* MildlyMilitary: Heavily averted in ''Old Man's War,'' where professionalism and discipline are repeatedly displayed to be the only things standing between CDF soldiers and being eaten by aliens.
** It occurs to some extent in ''The Ghost Brigades,'' though, justified by the characters being SuperSoldiers taught to fight from birth: being an effective soldier is ingrained deeply enough into their identity that strict military discipline is redundant. But even they stick to business once they're on the clock, though.
** Seen later on in Heather Lee's squad in ''The End Of All Things,'' who spend most of their episode bickering and debating the CU's response to colonial unrest.

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* MildlyMilitary: MildlyMilitary:
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Heavily averted in ''Old Man's War,'' War'', where professionalism and discipline are repeatedly displayed to be the only things standing between CDF soldiers and being eaten by aliens.
aliens.
** It occurs to some extent in ''The Ghost Brigades,'' Brigades'', though, justified by the characters being SuperSoldiers taught to fight from birth: being an effective soldier is ingrained deeply enough into their identity that strict military discipline is redundant. But even they stick to business once they're on the clock, though.
** Seen later on in Heather Lee's squad in ''The End Of of All Things,'' Things'', who spend most of their episode bickering and debating the CU's response to colonial unrest. unrest.



* RankUp: Perry starts ''Old Man's War'' as a recruit, and is commissioned as a lieutenant by the end. It's mentioned in ''The Lost Colony'' that he later rose to be a Major and commanded a battalion before retiring. In comparison, Harry Wilson, in the same time period, seems to have topped out as a Lieutenant, possibly because he doesn't toe the party line and tends to annoy his superiors.

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* RankUp: Perry starts ''Old Man's War'' as a recruit, and is commissioned as a lieutenant by the end. It's mentioned in ''The Lost Last Colony'' that he later rose to be a Major and commanded a battalion before retiring. In comparison, Harry Wilson, in the same time period, seems to have topped out as a Lieutenant, possibly because he doesn't toe the party line and tends to annoy his superiors.



* ScaryDogmaticAliens: The Consu. Curiously enough, though, that dogma makes them ''less'' dangerous than they might be - they could easily steamroll everyone else in the galaxy, but their philosophy/religion calls on them to fight 'fairly' in their continued effort to help other races 'perfect' themselves. In their eyes, it's a species-wide EarnYourHappyEnding: in the eyes of most of their neighbors, it's random, scary mayhem.
** Also, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters The Colonial Union]]: a fascist, xenophobic, and violently expansionistic state that keeps its own people in the dark and farms them to populate colonies and die in endless wars.

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* ScaryDogmaticAliens: ScaryDogmaticAliens:
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The Consu. Curiously enough, though, that dogma makes them ''less'' dangerous than they might be - they could easily steamroll everyone else in the galaxy, but their philosophy/religion calls on them to fight 'fairly' in their continued effort to help other races 'perfect' themselves. In their eyes, it's a species-wide EarnYourHappyEnding: in the eyes of most of their neighbors, it's random, scary mayhem.
** Also, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters The Colonial Union]]: a fascist, xenophobic, and violently expansionistic state that keeps its own people in the dark and farms them to populate colonies and die in endless wars.



* SmartGun: the Colonial Marines' weapons are biometrically locked, computer-controlled and programmable {{Swiss Army Gun}}s. Special Forces can also control the gun remotely.

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* SmartGun: the The Colonial Marines' weapons are biometrically locked, computer-controlled and programmable {{Swiss Army Gun}}s. Special Forces can also control the gun remotely.



* TakingYouWithMe: [[spoiler:Dirac's nasty surprise for Charles Boutin after the latter took over Dirac's body]].
** [[spoiler:How Captain Coloma deals with the ''Erie Morningstar''.]]

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* TakingYouWithMe: TakingYouWithMe:
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[[spoiler:Dirac's nasty surprise for Charles Boutin after the latter took over Dirac's body]].
body]] in ''The Ghost Brigades''.
** [[spoiler:How Captain Coloma deals with the ''Erie Morningstar''.]]Morningstar'']] in ''The Human Division''.



* ThemeNaming: Special Forces soldiers have the last name of a famous person in science and philosophy (or science fiction, for the Gamerans). Their troopships, similarly, are not named after cities like those of the regular CDF (and the Mobile Infantry in ''Starship Troopers:'') they're named after birds of prey.

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* ThemeNaming: Special Forces soldiers have the last name of a famous person in science and philosophy (or science fiction, for the Gamerans). Their troopships, similarly, are not named after cities like those of the regular CDF (and the Mobile Infantry in ''Starship Troopers:'') Troopers''); they're named after birds of prey.



** FridgeBrilliance as well - The "mystery" of the real Roanoke isn't really a mystery; the colonists all went off to join the native Americans. [[spoiler:Which is exactly what the Perry family does by the end of "The Lost Colony]]

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** FridgeBrilliance as well - The "mystery" of the real Roanoke isn't really a mystery; the colonists all went off to join the native Americans. [[spoiler:Which is exactly what the Perry family does by the end of "The Lost Colony]]''The Last Colony''.]]



* WorthyOpponent: John gets two in 'The Last Colony', in the form of [[CommanderContrarian Manfred Trujillo]] and [[VisionaryVillain General]] [[NecessarilyEvil Gau]]. [[spoiler:By the end of the book, he's good friends with both.]]

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* WorthyOpponent: John gets two in 'The ''The Last Colony', Colony'', in the form of [[CommanderContrarian Manfred Trujillo]] and [[VisionaryVillain General]] [[NecessarilyEvil Gau]]. [[spoiler:By the end of the book, he's good friends with both.]]
17th Dec '16 12:54:22 AM Xtifr
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'''''Old Man's War''''' is a series of SpaceOpera novels by author Creator/JohnScalzi. Its follows the recruits of Earth's [[SpaceMarine Colonial Defense Force]], tasked with protecting Mankind's far-flung colony worlds from ruthless alien species. The twist? All recruits to the CDF are ''elderly citizens''; the minimum sign up age is 75 years old. Recruits sign up while they are still on Earth, having already lived a long life, and are then given young, genetically-enhanced bodies upon joining the CDF.

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'''''Old ''Old Man's War''''' War'' is a series of SpaceOpera novels by author Creator/JohnScalzi. Its follows the recruits of Earth's [[SpaceMarine Colonial Defense Force]], tasked with protecting Mankind's far-flung colony worlds from ruthless alien species. The twist? All recruits to the CDF are ''elderly citizens''; the minimum sign up age is 75 years old. Recruits sign up while they are still on Earth, having already lived a long life, and are then given young, genetically-enhanced bodies upon joining the CDF.
22nd Nov '16 9:29:01 AM LBHills
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* [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Means We Tolerate You For A Bit]]: Want answers from the Consu? You have to kill their dishonored criminals in single combat. For each one your side kills, you get one question.

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* [[DefeatMeansFriendship Defeat Means We Tolerate You For A Bit]]: Want answers from the Consu? Their religion ''does'' allow you that right. You have to kill their dishonored criminals in single combat. combat to the death. (In case you were wondering, the average Consu is 8' tall, covered in a sturdy exoskeleton, and has a set of mantis-like limbs that come in handy for disembowelments.) For each one your side kills, you get they will truthfully answer one question.question of your choice.
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