History Literature / NewJediOrder

11th May '16 10:32:23 PM chicagomel
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** Many, most memorably Jaina [[spoiler: when Anakin dies]].

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** Many, most memorably Jaina and Leia [[spoiler: when Anakin dies]].
9th May '16 11:02:07 PM erforce
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->-Even [[ScaryDogmaticAliens a bloodthirsty crusade]] needs bureaucrats in ''Destiny's Way''

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->-Even -->-- Even [[ScaryDogmaticAliens a bloodthirsty crusade]] needs bureaucrats in ''Destiny's Way''



* ShoutOut: Take a look at a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YVH-series_battle_droid Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droid]], then compare it to a {{Terminator}} minus its human disguise. Wholly deliberate, since the Vong (minus scars, tattoos, implants, skin color, and possibly absence of nose) look basically human, and the YVH droids were meant to look like mechanical mockeries of Yuuzhan Vong specifically to piss them off.

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* ShoutOut: Take a look at a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YVH-series_battle_droid Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droid]], then compare it to a {{Terminator}} Franchise/{{Terminator}} minus its human disguise. Wholly deliberate, since the Vong (minus scars, tattoos, implants, skin color, and possibly absence of nose) look basically human, and the YVH droids were meant to look like mechanical mockeries of Yuuzhan Vong specifically to piss them off.
18th Jan '16 4:27:22 AM SamMax
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New Jedi Order is a StarWarsExpandedUniverse series set twenty-five years after ''Franchise/StarWars[[ColonCancer : Episode IV]]--Film/ANewHope''. The galaxy is at peace. [[LaResistance The Rebellion]] has become [[TheAlliance the New Republic]]. [[TheEmpire The Empire]] is reduced to a shadow of its former self, its surviving leaders much more reasonable (still authoritarian but not outright dictatorial), and a treaty exists between the Empire and the Republic. Luke Skywalker's [[TitleDrop new Jedi Order]] is still small, but growing--about a hundred all told. He also got married four years ago to a wonderful woman, also a Jedi and [[DefectingForLove who happens to have once wanted to kill him]]. Their courtship was ''adorable''. [[OfficialCouple Han Solo and Leia Organa]] have been hitched for seventeen years, and have three teenaged children, all prodigies and strong in the Force.

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New Jedi Order is a StarWarsExpandedUniverse ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' series set twenty-five years after ''Franchise/StarWars[[ColonCancer : Episode IV]]--Film/ANewHope''. The galaxy is at peace. [[LaResistance The Rebellion]] has become [[TheAlliance the New Republic]]. [[TheEmpire The Empire]] is reduced to a shadow of its former self, its surviving leaders much more reasonable (still authoritarian but not outright dictatorial), and a treaty exists between the Empire and the Republic. Luke Skywalker's [[TitleDrop new Jedi Order]] is still small, but growing--about a hundred all told. He also got married four years ago to a wonderful woman, also a Jedi and [[DefectingForLove who happens to have once wanted to kill him]]. Their courtship was ''adorable''. [[OfficialCouple Han Solo and Leia Organa]] have been hitched for seventeen years, and have three teenaged children, all prodigies and strong in the Force.
14th Jan '16 10:11:05 PM Hobbie
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* ADayInTheLimelight: Dark Tide for Corran Horn, Agents of Chaos for Han Solo, Edge of Victory for Anakin Solo, ''Dark Journey'' for Jaina Solo, ''Traitor'' for Jacen Solo and ''The Final Prophecy'' for Tahiri Veila.

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* ADayInTheLimelight: Dark Tide for Corran Horn, Agents of Chaos for Han Solo, Edge of Victory for Anakin Solo, ''Dark Journey'' for Jaina Solo, ''Enemy Lines'' for Wedge Antilles, ''Traitor'' for Jacen Solo and ''The Final Prophecy'' for Tahiri Veila.
8th Jan '16 2:47:24 PM morenohijazo
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* WarringNatures: [[ActionGirl Tahiri]] has this problem after a failed attempt to turn her into a half-Jedi half-Yuuzhan Vong SuperSoldier leaves her with two distinct personalities who are on opposite sides of the war. She finally resolves the issue near the end of the series, integrating both personalities to form, in effect, a completely new one with the strongest traits of both.
7th Nov '15 10:57:50 PM StarSword
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* HomeworldEvacuation: The Yuuzhan Vong underwent a home ''galaxy'' evacuation, after massive wars of conquest and then internecine wars they started devastated so much of it that it was rendered incapable of sustaining their civilization (their actual homeworld was destroyed first, and it's speculated, though not fully confirmed, that they were the ones who did it). After travelling through the intergalactic void for milennia, they finally found the ''Franchise/StarWars'' galaxy- and decided to take over.
** It's also been speculated that they were fleeing the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Silentium-Abominor_War Silentium-Abominor War]], which would explain their belief that technology is unholy.
** Another speculation is that their wars featured such copious use of Yo'Gand's Core (see ColonyDrop) that there weren't any habitable planets left in their home galaxy.

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* HomeworldEvacuation: The Yuuzhan Vong underwent a home ''galaxy'' evacuation, after massive wars of conquest and then internecine wars they started devastated so much of it that it was rendered incapable of sustaining their civilization (their actual homeworld was destroyed first, and it's speculated, though not fully confirmed, implied that they were the ones who did it). After travelling through the intergalactic void for milennia, millennia, they finally found the ''Franchise/StarWars'' galaxy- and galaxy--and decided to take over.
** It's
over.\\
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Out-of-universe, it was
also been speculated that they were fleeing the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Silentium-Abominor_War Silentium-Abominor War]], which would explain their belief that technology is unholy.
** Another speculation is
unholy. WordOfGod confirmed the reverse was true: a ''Franchise/StarWars''' blog [[http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/2013/07/05/the-droids-re-animated-part-2/ entry]] clarified a line by Harrar in ''The Unifying Force'' that their wars featured such copious use of Yo'Gand's Core (see ColonyDrop) that there weren't any habitable planets left in their home galaxy.the Vong had actually kicked out the two robot species, which also fled to the GFFA.
7th Nov '15 11:42:14 AM StarSword
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* ''Vector Prime'' (1999)
** ''Dark Tide I: Onslaught'' (2000)

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* ''Vector Prime'' (1999)
(1999) -- Creator/RASalvatore
** ''Dark Tide I: Onslaught'' (2000)(2000) -- Creator/MichaelAStackpole



** ''Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial'' (2000)

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** ''Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial'' (2000)(2000) -- Creator/JamesLuceno



* ''Balance Point'' (2000)
** ''Edge Of Victory I: Conquest'' (2001)

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* ''Balance Point'' (2000)
(2000) -- Creator/KathyTyers
** ''Edge Of Victory I: Conquest'' (2001)(2001) -- Creator/GregKeyes



* ''Star By Star'' (2001)
** ''Dark Journey'' (2002)
** ''Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream'' (2002)

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* ''Star By Star'' (2001)
(2001) -- Creator/TroyDenning
** ''Dark Journey'' (2002)
(2002) -- Creator/ElaineCunningham
** ''Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream'' (2002)(2002) -- Creator/AaronAllston



** ''Traitor'' (2002)
* ''Destiny's Way'' (2002)
** ''Force Heretic I: Remnant'' (2003)

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** ''Traitor'' (2002)
(2002) -- Creator/MatthewStover
* ''Destiny's Way'' (2002)
(2002) -- Creator/WalterJonWilliams
** ''Force Heretic I: Remnant'' (2003)(2003) -- Creator/SeanWilliams and Creator/ShaneDix



** ''The Final Prophecy'' (2003)
* ''The Unifying Force'' (2003)

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** ''The Final Prophecy'' (2003)
(2003) -- Creator/GregKeyes
* ''The Unifying Force'' (2003)
(2003) -- Creator/JamesLuceno
20th Sep '15 11:38:46 AM StarSword
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* CoolOldGuy: The main characters from the movies have begun to verge into this, particularly Han, who's a good ten years older than Luke or Leia. For an evil version, there's Czulkang Lah, the Warmaster's father.

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* CoolOldGuy: The main characters from the movies have begun to verge into this, particularly Han, who's a good ten years older than Luke or Leia. For an evil version, there's Czulkang Lah, the Warmaster's Warmaster Tsavong Lah's father.



* CombatSadomasochist: All the Vong have strong elements of this, but Domain Shai takes it UpToEleven.

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* CombatSadomasochist: All the Vong have strong elements of this, given their religious fetishization of pain, but Domain Shai takes it UpToEleven.UpToEleven by doing things like using the [[AgonyBeam Embrace of Pain, a torture instrument]], as a means of meditation.



* CultureClash[=/=]DeliberateValuesDissonance: The Vong see themselves as noble heroes purging a terrible taint from the galaxy, but their culture is so plain ''crazy'' that it's difficult for either the audience or other characters to have any sympathy for them whatsoever. This has the added bonus of making negotiating with them nearly impossible.



* DependingOnTheWriter: All but inevitable in a series with nineteen books and almost as many writers. The major example is the Vong's "immunity to the Force." Originally, it was just intended that the Force couldn't detect them, then it was that the Force couldn't affect them, then it was that the Force couldn't affect them directly (you couldn't Force Choke them by telekinetically squeezing their windpipe, but you could move the air away from their heads), then it went full-circle to being able to affect them normally, but not sense them.
* DisastrousDemonstration: Subverted when Lando demos the YVH droids. He ends the demonstration and the droid promptly opens fire on the crowd. Specifically on the ''ooglith masquer''-wearing Yuuzhan Vong infiltrators watching the event.
* DiscOneFinalBoss: Runs up to a Disc Two Final Boss, actually. The series is ''that'' long
** Shedao Shai, who leads the invasion of the Outer Rim Territories until Corran Horn kills him on Ithor in ''Ruin''. Replaced by Warmaster Tsavong Lah.

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* DependingOnTheWriter: All but inevitable in a series with nineteen books and almost as many writers. The major example is the Vong's "immunity to the Force." Originally, it was just intended that the Force couldn't detect them, then it was that the Force couldn't affect them, then it was that the Force couldn't affect them directly (you couldn't Force Choke them by telekinetically squeezing their windpipe, but you could move the air away from their heads), heads, then it went full-circle to being able to affect them normally, but not sense them.
them. ''Star By Star'' also makes the Yuuzhan Vong vulnerable to Force lightning.
* DisastrousDemonstration: Subverted when Lando demos the YVH droids. He ends the demonstration and the droid promptly opens fire on the crowd. Specifically on Except it's aiming at the ''ooglith masquer''-wearing Yuuzhan Vong infiltrators watching the event.
event. The droid is acting ''exactly'' as designed, and when it discovers that its blasters had been locked in powered-down mode for the demo, it improvises and crushes the infiltrators to death.
* DiscOneFinalBoss: Runs up to a Disc Two Three Final Boss, actually. The series is ''that'' long
long.
** ''Vector Prime'' has the Praetorite Vong, an advance guard defeated by {{technobabble}} in the same book they're introduced. Replaced by Shedao, Domain Shai.
** Shedao Shai, who Shai leads the invasion of the Outer Rim Territories from the second book until Corran Horn kills him on Ithor in ''Ruin''. Replaced by Warmaster Tsavong Lah.



* DrillSergeantNasty: Czulkang Lah's occupation, prior to filling the role of ArcVillain in the ''Enemy Lines'' duology.
** Czulkang Lah is far more of a VeteranInstructor. He is depicted as the epitome of wisdom (for the Vong,) and far more reasonable and rational then many of his counterparts. Rather then delivering brutal punishment, he uses very small punishments, the minimum he can for his society, and emphasizes personal honor as a reason to succeed. He is comparatively soft spoken, thinks carefully before acting, and is willing, [[spoiler:much like his son]], to dirty himself with technology to gain a better understanding of his foes. It helps that he is also a retired leader from before the invasion, reduced to training the next generation of officers after he was forcibly retired.



** The Vong culture and military presented in the first few novels were even more [[ScaryDogmaticAliens dogmatic]], masochistic, and incompetent than in later books. Explained in later books as being characteristic of the Praetorite Vong and Domain Shai, who made up the vanguard and may or may not have been [[UriahGambit put there so the rest of the Vong wouldn't have to deal with them]][[note]]this is all but canon for the Shai; ''Ruin'' ends with Deign Lian proudly reporting to Tsavong Lah that he arranged Shedao Shai's death. It's more ambiguous with the Praetorite, but it's clear that Da'Gara and co. were not well-liked[[/note]].

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** The Vong culture and military presented in the first few novels were even more [[ScaryDogmaticAliens dogmatic]], masochistic, and incompetent than in later books. Explained in later books as being characteristic of the Praetorite Vong and Domain Shai, who made up the vanguard and may or may not have been [[UriahGambit put there so the rest of the Vong wouldn't have to deal with them]][[note]]this them]].[[note]]This is all but canon for the Shai; ''Ruin'' ends with Deign Lian proudly reporting to Tsavong Lah that he arranged Shedao Shai's death. It's more ambiguous with the Praetorite, but it's clear that Da'Gara and co. were not well-liked[[/note]].well-liked.[[/note]]



** The yammosk in the first book is also significantly more powerful and threatening than any others which would appear later and is revered as something close to a demigod by the Vong. Later yammosks are treated as, essentially, living supercomputers - highly valued and useful, to be sure, but not the superiors or even equals of the Vong themselves.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: ''The Unifying Force''.

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** The yammosk in the first book is also significantly more powerful and threatening than any others which would appear later and is revered as something close to a demigod by the Vong. Later yammosks are treated as, essentially, living supercomputers - highly valued and useful, to be sure, but not the superiors or even equals of the Vong themselves. \n {{Justified}} [[{{Retcon}} retroactively]]: the yammosk in ''Vector Prime'' is said to have been defective.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: EarnYourHappyEnding:
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''The Unifying Force''.Force'' for the series as a whole. The Yuuzhan Vong surrender and give up warfare, but dozens of planets have been devastated or destroyed, 365 trillion people lie dead[[note]]and that's just the agreed-upon figure; nobody has any actual idea what the real number is[[/note]], the New Republic has fallen, and the Jedi Order is in tatters.



* EliteMooks: An ordinary Vong warrior is more than a match for a Jedi, if they catch them unawares. Later in the series, they become ''somewhat'' less formidable as the Jedi become wise to their weak spots. They're still probably the most impressive mooks in the entire GFFA.

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* EliteMooks: EliteMooks:
**
An ordinary Vong warrior is more than a match for a Jedi, if they catch them unawares. Later in the series, they become ''somewhat'' less formidable as the Jedi become wise to their weak spots. They're still probably the most impressive mooks in the entire GFFA. GFFA.
** The GFFA develops its own MechaMooks countermeasure in ''Star By Star'' with Tendrando Arms Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droids, equipped with self-healing structural materials, a blaster cannon that can bring down a coralskipper at full power, and a sensor package capable of ferreting out disguised Vong.



** Ditto the [[Literature/TheTruceAtBakura Ssi-Ruuk]]: Like the Vong, they're a race of [[OutsideContextVillain invaders from elsewhere]] with a rigid [[FantasticCasteSystem caste system]], a [[ScaryDogmaticAliens fanatical religion]], a reptilian SlaveRace, and a fondness for [[BodyHorror truly]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild horrific]] [[BrainInAJar technology]]. Infiltrated by Vong agents, their imperium ends up subverted, thrown into disarray, and ultimately invaded.

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** Ditto the [[Literature/TheTruceAtBakura Ssi-Ruuk]]: Like the Vong, they're a race of [[OutsideContextVillain invaders from elsewhere]] with a rigid [[FantasticCasteSystem caste system]], a [[ScaryDogmaticAliens fanatical religion]], a reptilian SlaveRace, and a fondness for [[BodyHorror truly]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild horrific]] [[BrainInAJar technology]]. Infiltrated by Vong agents, their imperium Imperium ends up subverted, thrown into disarray, and ultimately invaded.



* HeroicBSOD: Many, most memorably Jaina [[spoiler: when Anakin dies]].

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* HeroicBSOD: HeroicBSOD:
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Many, most memorably Jaina [[spoiler: when Anakin dies]].



* HomeworldEvacuation: The Yuuzhan Vong underwent a home ''galaxy'' evacuation, after massive wars of conquest and then internicine wars they started devastated so much of it that it was rendered incapable of sustaining their civilization (their actual homeworld was destroyed first, and it's speculated, though not fully confirmed, that they were the ones who did it). After travelling through the intergalactic void for milennia, they finally found the ''Franchise/StarWars'' galaxy- and decided to take over.

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* HomeworldEvacuation: The Yuuzhan Vong underwent a home ''galaxy'' evacuation, after massive wars of conquest and then internicine internecine wars they started devastated so much of it that it was rendered incapable of sustaining their civilization (their actual homeworld was destroyed first, and it's speculated, though not fully confirmed, that they were the ones who did it). After travelling through the intergalactic void for milennia, they finally found the ''Franchise/StarWars'' galaxy- and decided to take over.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Saba Sebatyne's reaction to inadvertently killing hundreds of her fellow Barabels by destroying a Yuuzhan Vong slave transport in anger in ''Remnant''. She's [[OutDamnedSpot troubled by what she had done]], which leads her to [[MustMakeAmends attempt a daring capture]] of a similar slave ship later on in the book

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: MyGodWhatHaveIDone:
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Saba Sebatyne's reaction to inadvertently killing hundreds of her fellow Barabels by destroying a Yuuzhan Vong slave transport in anger in ''Remnant''. She's [[OutDamnedSpot troubled by what she had done]], which leads her to [[MustMakeAmends attempt a daring capture]] of a similar slave ship later on in the bookbook.



* [[MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels My Landspeeder Is Full of Adegan Eels]]: In ''Star by Star, Ganner Rhysode gets the Yuuzhan Vong terms for "low-caste person" and "dung of a rotting meat maggot" confused.

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* [[MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels My Landspeeder Is Full of Adegan Eels]]: MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels: In ''Star by Star, Ganner Rhysode gets the Yuuzhan Vong terms for "low-caste person" and "dung of a rotting meat maggot" confused.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Under normal circumstances, the arrival of the ''Lusankya'' and its subsequent pasting of the Yuuzhan Vong task force in at Borleias near the beginning of ''Rebel Dream'' would have been a GunshipRescue moment. However, prior to its arrival, the New Republic forces at Borleias were counting on stringing along a merely average Yuuzhan Vong commander and fleet in order to fulfill their goals. When the ''Lusankya'' killed the commander and wiped out his forces, the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil dictated that the Yuuzhan Vong send a more wily commander with a stronger task force.
** A particularly cruel variant appears in ''Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse''. The heroes are considering using Centerpoint Station to attack the Yuuzhan Vong fleet, but Anakin is torn over whether or not such participating in such a brutal attack would go against his Jedi training. Meanwhile, his evil cousin Thrackan Sal-Solo is all for using the station, and tries to push Anakin into pulling the trigger. In the end, [[spoiler: Anakin steadfastly refuses, so Thrackan jumps in and fires the station himself--proceeding to wipe out most of the fleet that the Hapans had sent to aid the Republic]]. Even worse, [[spoiler: Anakin realizes that if he ''had'' pulled the trigger, he probably could have successfully wiped out the Vong without hitting the Hapans, since his control over the station is much better than Thrackan's]].
** Luke setting up a Jedi base in the Maw Cluster during ''Edge of Victory'' will come back to haunt everyone during ''Fate of the Jedi''. In his defense, he had no way of knowing that [[spoiler: the Dark Side entity Abeloth was imprisoned in the Maw, or that she would turn the young Force users into sleeper agents in an attempt to free herself.]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: NiceJobBreakingItHero:
**
Under normal circumstances, the arrival of the ''Lusankya'' and its subsequent pasting of the Yuuzhan Vong task force in at Borleias near the beginning of ''Rebel Dream'' would have been a GunshipRescue moment. However, prior to its arrival, the New Republic forces at Borleias were counting on stringing along a merely average Yuuzhan Vong commander and fleet in order to fulfill their goals. When the ''Lusankya'' killed the commander and wiped out his forces, the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil dictated that the Yuuzhan Vong send a more wily commander with a stronger task force.
** A particularly cruel variant appears in ''Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse''. The heroes are considering using Centerpoint Station to attack the Yuuzhan Vong fleet, fleet to save the critical shipyard world Fondor, but Anakin is torn over whether or not such participating in such a brutal attack would go against his Jedi training. Meanwhile, his evil cousin Thrackan Sal-Solo is all for using the station, and tries to push Anakin into pulling the trigger. In the end, [[spoiler: Anakin steadfastly refuses, so Thrackan jumps in and fires the station himself--proceeding to wipe out most of the fleet that the Hapans had sent to aid the Republic]]. Even worse, [[spoiler: Anakin realizes that if he ''had'' pulled the trigger, he probably could have successfully wiped out the Vong without hitting the Hapans, since his control over the station is much better than Thrackan's]].
** Luke setting up a Jedi base in the Maw Cluster Deep Core during ''Edge of Victory'' will come back to haunt everyone during ''Fate of the Jedi''. In his defense, he had no way of knowing that [[spoiler: the Dark Side entity Abeloth was imprisoned in the Maw, Deep Core, or that she would turn the young Force users into sleeper agents in an attempt to free herself.]]



* PyrrhicVictory: Wedge's forces on Borleias manage to hand one of these to the Yuuzhan Vong, sacrificing a Super Star Destroyer (but ''not'' its crew or weapons; they were all relocated to other ships) to destroy a worldship ''and'' one of the Yuuzhan Vong's best generals. The Yuuzhan Vong gain the planet, but with ''far'' greater losses than Wedge's forces suffered. Said general is fully aware that his victory was not worth the cost, and reports as much to the Warmaster, all but spelling out its a blow from which the Vong are unlikely to recover.

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* PyrrhicVictory: Wedge's forces on Borleias manage to hand one of these to the Yuuzhan Vong, sacrificing a Super Star Destroyer (but ''not'' its crew or weapons; they were all relocated to other ships) to destroy a worldship ''and'' one of the Yuuzhan Vong's best generals. The Yuuzhan Vong gain the planet, but with ''far'' greater losses than Wedge's forces suffered. Said general is fully aware that his victory was not worth the cost, and reports as much to the Warmaster, all but spelling out its a blow from which the Vong are unlikely to recover. Meanwhile Wedge achieved his primary objective--to delay the Vong while what was left of the Republic got itself sorted out and became the Galactic Alliance--albeit at a greater cost than he intended.



* ShoutOut: Take a look at a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YVH-series_battle_droid Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droid]], then compare it to a {{Terminator}} minus its human disguise.
** Wholly deliberate, since the Vong (minus scars, tattoos, implants, skin color, and possibly absence of nose) look basically human, and the YVH droids were meant to look like mechanical mockeries of Yuuzhan Vong specifically to piss them off.

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* ShoutOut: Take a look at a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YVH-series_battle_droid Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droid]], then compare it to a {{Terminator}} minus its human disguise.
**
disguise. Wholly deliberate, since the Vong (minus scars, tattoos, implants, skin color, and possibly absence of nose) look basically human, and the YVH droids were meant to look like mechanical mockeries of Yuuzhan Vong specifically to piss them off.



* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil
-->''"We were hoping to get a Yuuzhan Vong commander of average skills, with an average fleet, and I suspect that we did. We were going to string him along for as much time as we could, but circumstances today dictated that we wipe him out right away. The next one they send is going to be much tougher, and that's going to make things more difficult for all of us."''
-->-Wedge Antilles, ''Rebel Stand''

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* SortingAlgorithmOfEvil
-->''"We
SortingAlgorithmOfEvil: {{Discussed}} in ''Rebel Stand''.
-->'''Gen. Wedge Antilles:''' We
were hoping to get a Yuuzhan Vong commander of average skills, with an average fleet, and I suspect that we did. We were going to string him along for as much time as we could, but circumstances today dictated that we wipe him out right away. The next one they send is going to be much tougher, and that's going to make things more difficult for all of us."''
-->-Wedge Antilles, ''Rebel Stand''



** The rank-and-file Vong warriors probably count, since they have armor and weapons that can withstand lightsaber strikes, are ([[DependingOnTheWriter mostly]]) immune to Force powers, and frequently have implants that make them more formidable than their species baseline (which heavily implied to be larger and stronger than the average human.)

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** The rank-and-file Vong warriors probably count, since they have armor and weapons that can withstand lightsaber strikes, are ([[DependingOnTheWriter mostly]]) immune to Force powers, and frequently have implants that make them more formidable than their species baseline (which heavily implied to be larger and stronger than the average human.)human).



* ValuesDissonance: In-universe example. The Vong see themselves as noble heroes purging a terrible taint from the galaxy, but their culture is so plain ''crazy'' that it's difficult for either the audience or other characters to have any sympathy for them whatsoever. This has the added bonus of making negotiating with them nearly impossible.



* VeteranInstructor: Czulkang Lah is depicted as the epitome of wisdom (for the Vong) and far more reasonable and rational then many of his counterparts. Rather then delivering brutal punishment as a DrillSergeantNasty, he uses very small punishments, the minimum he can for his society, and emphasizes personal honor as a reason to succeed. He is comparatively soft spoken, thinks carefully before acting, and is willing, [[spoiler:much like his son]], to dirty himself with technology to gain a better understanding of his foes. It helps that he is also a retired leader from before the invasion, reduced to training the next generation of officers after he was forcibly retired.



* WeHaveReserves: Yuuzhan Vong combat doctrine teaches warriors to sacrifice their lives and their subordinates is the highest honor. Tsavong Lah follows this trope until they eventually ''run out of reserves.''

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* WeHaveReserves: Yuuzhan Vong combat doctrine teaches warriors that to sacrifice their lives and their subordinates is the highest honor. Tsavong Lah follows this trope until they eventually ''run out of reserves.''



* TheWorfEffect: Early in the series, Leia's Noghri bodyguard, Bolphur, takes out a Yuuzhan Vong warrior, but is clawed to death in return. Leia's reaction: "If the Yuuzhan Vong are powerful enough to take out Noghri with their bare hands ..."
** Leia's Noghri bodyguards suffer this depressingly often, especially in the first half of the series. Arguably, this was also the reason Chewie died.

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* TheWorfEffect: Early in the series, Leia's Noghri bodyguard, Bolphur, takes out a Yuuzhan Vong warrior, but is clawed to death in return. Leia's reaction: "If the Yuuzhan Vong are powerful enough to take out Noghri with their bare hands ..."
**
" Leia's Noghri bodyguards suffer this depressingly often, especially in the first half of the series. Arguably, this was also the reason Chewie died.



** Played with in that while "charging full-tilt at the enemy with amphistaffs raised" may be the Vong's ''favorite'' tactic, but that doesn't mean it's all their capable of doing. They're actually quite canny if the situation warrants it.
** Especially early on, they're shown to be remarkably adept all aspects of warfare, including political and psychological, to the point where one of their favorite sayings translates as "Weaken the hinges of the enemey's fort."

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** Played with in that while "charging full-tilt at the enemy with amphistaffs raised" may be the Vong's ''favorite'' tactic, but that doesn't mean it's all their they're capable of doing. They're actually quite canny if the situation warrants it.
** Especially early on, they're shown to be remarkably adept all aspects of warfare, including political and psychological, to the point where one of their favorite sayings translates as "Weaken the hinges of the enemey's enemy's fort."
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* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Shimrra.]]

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* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Shimrra.Runs up to a Disc Two Final Boss, actually. The series is ''that'' long
** Shedao Shai, who leads the invasion of the Outer Rim Territories until Corran Horn kills him on Ithor in ''Ruin''. Replaced by Warmaster Tsavong Lah.
** Tsavong Lah, in turn, is killed by Jaina Solo after the Alliance inflicts a decisive defeat on the Vong at Ebaq 9 in ''Destiny's Way''. Supreme Overlord Shimmra is set up as the final villain. [[spoiler:Then it turns out in ''The Unifying Force'' that his court jester Onimi is the real BigBad.
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* EvilerThanThou: The Yuuzhan Vong share a lot of similarities with [[Literature/BlackFleetCrisis the Yevetha]], genocidal xenophobia and love of pain and bloody deaths among them. About halfway through the war, in exchange for having a group of planets that feared a Duskhan League resurgence surrendering without a fight, the Vong dispatch a battle group to N'zoth and glass it, wiping out the whole species.

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The Yuuzhan Vong share a lot of similarities with [[Literature/BlackFleetCrisis the Yevetha]], genocidal xenophobia and love of pain and bloody deaths among them. About halfway through the war, in exchange for having a group of planets that feared a Duskhan League resurgence surrendering surrender to them without a fight, the Vong dispatch a battle group to N'zoth and glass it, wiping out the whole species.
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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Luke - and later Kyp - is able to manipulate the little singularities which Vong ships produce to absorb attacks, making them into somewhat bigger singularities which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard swallow the Vong ships]]. Neither of them does it more than once, though. Luke is also able to communicate with a tank of goo made of single-celled creatures that devour all organic matter, nanite-style, telling them "I am not food" so he can climb in and get something. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny This leads to him ruefully saying]], "[[NakedPeopleAreFunny I should have told it 'My clothes are not food, either.]]"

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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Luke - and later Kyp - is able to manipulate the little singularities which Vong ships produce to absorb attacks, making them into somewhat bigger singularities which [[HoistByHisOwnPetard swallow the Vong ships]]. Neither of them does it more than once, though.though--Luke goes unconscious from the effort, and while Kyp doesn't pass out from his effort, he still ends up exhausted. Luke is also able to communicate with a tank of goo made of single-celled creatures that devour all organic matter, nanite-style, telling them "I am not food" so he can climb in and get something. [[CrowningMomentOfFunny This leads to him ruefully saying]], "[[NakedPeopleAreFunny I should have told it 'My clothes are not food, either.]]"
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