History Literature / NewJediOrder

26th Aug '17 7:53:56 PM vn70072
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* BiotechIsBetter: Played with. A lot of Yuuzhan Vong biotech advantage comes not from their tech being objectively better, but from it being ''different''. The dovin basals they use for shielding and propulsion aren't necessarily better than standard engines and shields, but their ability to create microsingularities to gobble up weapon's fire is something the New Republic never dealt with before, but rapidly find a trick to work around. Those same dovin basals can use their gravity-altering abilities to yank the shields off NR ships, but extending the ship's acceleration compensator envelope outside the shield radius nullifies that trick. Vong plasma weapons aren't that much more destructive than standard laser weapons, but have a damage-over-time component that's difficult to deal with once a blast strikes the hull. The one thing in space combat that is categorically better than anything the New Republic can offer is grutchins, the Yuuzhan Vong equivalent of torpedo weapons: think the Buzz Droids from ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', but ''much'' bigger, shaped like a giant space-borne locust, with acid-dripping mandibles that pretty much literally eat starfighters for breakfast and even able to pursue ships into hyperspace. No counter is ever found for them, [[ForgottenPhlebotinum and they quietly disappear from the series shortly after their introduction.]] On the gound, Yuuzhan Vong ranged weapons are distinctly lackluster, having no real equivalent to a blaster (their thud bugs are quite a surprise, but easy to deal with once you're aware of them) and Vong warriors have to close to melee range to do any real damage. Unfortunately, their armor and weapons are capable of withstanding hits from lightsabers, so it takes a rather impressive amount of blasterfire to down the average Vong (though as their armor leaves their faces exposed, headshots work pretty well if you're a good marksman).

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* BiotechIsBetter: Played with. A lot of Yuuzhan Vong biotech advantage comes not from their tech being objectively better, but from it being ''different''. The dovin basals they use for shielding and propulsion aren't necessarily better than standard engines and shields, but their ability to create microsingularities to gobble up weapon's fire is something the New Republic never dealt with before, but rapidly find a trick to work around. Those same dovin basals can use their gravity-altering abilities to yank the shields off NR ships, but extending the ship's acceleration compensator envelope outside the shield radius nullifies that trick. Vong plasma weapons aren't that much more destructive than standard laser weapons, but have a damage-over-time component that's difficult to deal with once a blast strikes the hull. The one thing in space combat that is categorically better than anything the New Republic can offer is grutchins, the Yuuzhan Vong equivalent of torpedo weapons: think the Buzz Droids from ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', but ''much'' bigger, shaped like a giant space-borne locust, with acid-dripping mandibles that pretty much literally eat starfighters for breakfast and even able to pursue ships into hyperspace. No counter is ever found for them, [[ForgottenPhlebotinum and they quietly disappear from the series shortly after their introduction.]] On the gound, Yuuzhan Vong ranged weapons are distinctly lackluster, having no real equivalent to a blaster (their thud bugs are quite a surprise, but easy to deal with once you're aware of them) and Vong warriors have to close to melee range to do any real damage. Unfortunately, their armor and weapons are capable of withstanding hits from lightsabers, so it takes a rather impressive amount of blasterfire to down the average Vong (though as their armor leaves their faces exposed, headshots work pretty well if you're a good marksman). Their long range communication devices, villips, can reach interstellar distances despite being relatively compact and having transmission the New Republic can't detect, but they lack the flexibility of traditional comm gear, as each villip can only communicate to its partner. One Yuuzhan Vong pilot even privately envies the ability of starfighters to communicate voice to voice with one another, compared to his own coralskippers.
9th Aug '17 3:40:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BiggerBad: The Yuuzhan Vong pantheon, particularly Yun-Yammka, the WarGod. [[spoiler: Subverted. The entity the ''Yun'o'' are derived from, the GeniusLoci of the original Vong homeworld, was benevolent, and Yammka never actually existed at all]].
** In ''The Unifying Force'', Caluula Station is defended by Boba Fett and the Mandalorians. Han was speechless.



* GondorCallsForAid

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* GondorCallsForAidGreaterScopeVillain: The Yuuzhan Vong pantheon, particularly Yun-Yammka, the WarGod. [[spoiler: Subverted. The entity the ''Yun'o'' are derived from, the GeniusLoci of the original Vong homeworld, was benevolent, and Yammka never actually existed at all]].
14th Jun '17 7:33:18 PM zarpaulus
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* BioArmor: Vonduun crabs, they can even resist lightsabers. Though they're fatally allergic to baffor tree pollen.
30th May '17 9:53:23 PM nombretomado
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: It's a nineteen-book epic space fantasy series linked into ''dozens'' of other novels from the same universe; that's longer in at least one way than the ''WheelOfTime'', so imagine how many characters there are.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: It's a nineteen-book epic space fantasy series linked into ''dozens'' of other novels from the same universe; that's longer in at least one way than the ''WheelOfTime'', ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', so imagine how many characters there are.
14th May '17 6:17:02 AM Scorntex
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* CassandaTruth: Leia's initial attempts to warn the New Republic about the Yuuzhan Vong are ignored by the Senators assuming she's either trying to distract attention from the Jedi's bad publicity, or making a grab for power, [[FantasticRacism like all humans]].

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* CassandaTruth: CassandraTruth: Leia's initial attempts to warn the New Republic about the Yuuzhan Vong are ignored by the Senators assuming she's either trying to distract attention from the Jedi's bad publicity, or making a grab for power, [[FantasticRacism like all humans]].



* DidntSeeThatComing: A Vong infiltration in ''Onslaught'' takes a child hostage so Leia can't shoot her. There's a tense moment as she aims at Leia... and then, thanks to Danni Queen's emerging force powers, the clip of her gun falls out.



* EyeScream: Vua Rapuung's method of taking out an opponent involves [[spoiler: gouging out his eyes with his fingers and then lifting and throwing him aside by his eye sockets.]]

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* EyeScream: EyeScream:
** Corran Horn's first fight with a pair of Vong troopers has him take out the first, and more inexperienced, with a lightsaber to the eye, thanks to the unique design of his lightsaber. He notes it only worked because they didn't expect it, and it won't work on the second.
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Vua Rapuung's method of taking out an opponent involves [[spoiler: gouging out his eyes with his fingers and then lifting and throwing him aside by his eye sockets.]]



* HeroKiller: The Yuuzhan Vong in general [[spoiler:and literally, in Chewie and Anakin's cases]].

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The Yuuzhan Vong in general [[spoiler:and literally, in Chewie and Anakin's cases]].



* MoralMyopia: Shedao Shai is appalled that the evacuees of Dantooine at the end of ''Dark Tide: Onslaught'' leave their dead behind. Never mind that they were running from a Vong attack they couldn't resist, and didn't have time to pick up every corpse.



* MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels: In ''Star by Star, Ganner Rhysode gets the Yuuzhan Vong terms for "low-caste person" and "dung of a rotting meat maggot" confused.

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* MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels: In ''Star by Star, Star'', Ganner Rhysode gets the Yuuzhan Vong terms for "low-caste person" and "dung of a rotting meat maggot" confused.



* NeverFoundTheBody: Nom Anor, leading to many fans speculating that he actually survived. So far, canon has neither confirmed nor denied this, but it's been so long since ''The Unifying Force'' in-universe that it's becoming increasingly unlikely.

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* NeverFoundTheBody: Nom Anor, leading to many fans speculating that he actually survived. So far, canon has neither confirmed nor denied this, but it's been so long since However, he never reappeared after ''The Unifying Force'' in-universe that it's becoming increasingly unlikely.Force''.


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* RelativeButton: Shedao Shai is introduced examining the remains of two Vong warriors who were his cousins, killed by Corran Horn. He's incensed even further when it turns out the scientists Corran was protecting medically examined his grandfather.


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* TheyLookLikeUsNow: The Vong use ooglith masquers to hide among other races. In ''Onslaught'', some of them hide among refugees from one of their attacks.
11th May '17 5:31:36 PM vn70072
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* NoOneGetsLeftBehind: At the times the Yuuzhan Vong are willing to exploit this through the use of refugees or other hostages.
** Blackmoon Squadron is a clear believer. Despite being all but certain that one of their wounded members was evacuated already, they go back during a planetary evacuation when his abandoned fighter launches, saying they won't leave their own behind. This ends up saving the life of another pilot who was forced to use the damaged starfighter to escape the planet.
7th May '17 3:43:02 PM Scorntex
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* CassandaTruth: Leia's initial attempts to warn the New Republic about the Yuuzhan Vong are ignored by the Senators assuming she's either trying to distract attention from the Jedi's bad publicity, or making a grab for power, [[FantasticRacism like all humans]].


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* MundaneUtility: The Force is what gives the Jedi their power. It allows them to move objects with their mind, influence the weak-minded and animals... during ''Dark Tide: Onslaught'', it's used by Kyp as a glorified umbrella to keep sand off him.


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** Kyp Durron's antics, and those of his followers in ''Vector Prime'' sabotage Leia's attempts to warn everyone about the Vong during ''Dark Tide''.
11th Apr '17 9:31:10 AM Golondrina
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* LesCollaborateurs: Viqi Shesh, the Peace Brigade..



* LesCollaborateurs: Viqi Shesh, the Peace Brigade..
27th Jan '17 1:57:50 PM N8han11
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** Actually, sort of an inversion. Stackpole intended for the reverence for pain to be a quirk of Domain Shai, but other writers made it a characteristic of the species. The retcon was that all Vong were into it, but Domain Shai was into it UpToEleven.
8th Jan '17 10:55:46 AM nombretomado
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** In the chronologically later ''StarWarsLegacy'', several characters, most notably Jariah Syn, ''do'' use Vongtech regularly, and it's pretty useful, especially against Jedi or Sith, though by that point the Vong were much friendlier and more willing to share their secrets- Jariah had a Vong warrior as a mentor who taught him a lot.

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** In the chronologically later ''StarWarsLegacy'', ''ComicBook/{{Legacy}}'', several characters, most notably Jariah Syn, ''do'' use Vongtech regularly, and it's pretty useful, especially against Jedi or Sith, though by that point the Vong were much friendlier and more willing to share their secrets- Jariah had a Vong warrior as a mentor who taught him a lot.
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