History Literature / MemorySorrowAndThorn

31st Jan '16 6:12:15 PM GrammarNavi
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''Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn'' is a HighFantasy novel written by TadWilliams, comprising three volumes: ''The Dragonbone Chair'', ''The Stone of Farewell'' and ''To Green Angel Tower''. The latter volume was [[DividedForPublication broken up into two separate books]] in its paperback release.
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''Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn'' is a HighFantasy novel written by TadWilliams, Creator/TadWilliams, comprising three volumes: ''The Dragonbone Chair'', ''The Stone of Farewell'' and ''To Green Angel Tower''. The latter volume was [[DividedForPublication broken up into two separate books]] in its paperback release.

* SpiritualSuccessor: TadWilliams was inspired by and intentionally copied many themes from ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: TadWilliams Creator/TadWilliams was inspired by and intentionally copied many themes from ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''.
31st Jan '16 10:51:11 AM Thebrawlbro
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13th Oct '15 3:11:24 AM WillBGood
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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Camaris, the most powerful knight in Osten Ard, becomes this after his HeroicBSOD and [[NotQuiteDead apparent suicide]]. When awakened from his simpleminded state, he picks the BadAss mantle right up again, along with some ShellShockedSenior baggage.
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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Camaris, the most powerful knight in Osten Ard, becomes this after his HeroicBSOD and [[NotQuiteDead apparent suicide]]. When awakened from his simpleminded state, he picks the BadAss mantle right up again, along with some ShellShockedSenior ShellShockedVeteran baggage.

* ShellShockedSenior: Cadrach. Also, Camaris after being awakened.
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* ShellShockedSenior: ShellShockedVeteran: Cadrach. Also, Camaris after being awakened.
22nd Sep '15 8:40:32 PM nombretomado
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* OhMyGods: A number of non-Aedonist characters do this. most Hilariously, so does Duke Isgrimnur- he converted as an adult, but tends to forget and start swearing by FantasyCounterpartCulture versions of [[NorseMythology Odin and Thor]] instead of Usires.
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* OhMyGods: A number of non-Aedonist characters do this. most Hilariously, so does Duke Isgrimnur- he converted as an adult, but tends to forget and start swearing by FantasyCounterpartCulture versions of [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Odin and Thor]] instead of Usires.
18th Sep '15 12:54:07 AM surgoshan
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** A few of the successors to the league also count. Binabik is a shaman, expected to keep the lore and sing in the spring, but also to hunt down cave bears. With a stick. [[spoiler:Josua, now an innkeeper,]] survived quite an ordeal before retiring to his little hideaway. Tiamak may be a shy little nerd, but he ''did'' wrestle an alligator and win. ** Once upon a time, Cadrach. Remember, he's the only person to have read the entirety of Du Svardenvyrd who didn't go insane.

* MindRape: Even casual contact with the Storm King and his minions can destroy the minds of mortals - heaven help you if you attract their personal attention. Mentally encountering the Norn queen on the Dream Road is quite unhealthy even to immortals. This trope is also one of the more charming side-effects of touching Sorrow.
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* MindRape: Even casual contact with the Storm King and his minions can destroy the minds of mortals - heaven help you if you attract their personal attention. Mentally encountering the Norn queen on the Dream Road is quite unhealthy even to immortals. This trope is also one of the more charming side-effects of touching Sorrow. Similarly, Du Svardenvyrd is so laden with the Storm King's power that reading it is enough to drive people insane. That Cadrach ''wasn't'' driven mad, but merely to unending despair, is a sign of his strength.
7th Apr '15 12:31:25 PM EmperorMattXV
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* BittersweetEnding: For many characters, but Count Eolair especially drives this one home. He unwillingly rules the shattered remains of Hernystir, has seen too many good friends to count die in pointless battle, and worst of all, Maegwin died a madwoman without ever requiting his love for her. Simon at least hopes to soften the latter blow by revealing that she was sane at the end of her life.
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* BittersweetEnding: For many characters, but Count Eolair especially drives this one home. He [[spoiler:He unwillingly rules the shattered remains of Hernystir, has seen too many good friends to count die in pointless battle, and worst of all, Maegwin died a madwoman without ever requiting his love for her. Simon at least hopes to soften the latter blow by revealing that she was sane at the end of her life.life]].

* CollapsingLair: Green Angel Tower collapses into ruin after [[spoiler:the Storm King's defeat]], symbolically representing the final eradication of the Sithi's ancient empire.
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* CollapsingLair: Green [[spoiler:Green Angel Tower collapses into ruin after [[spoiler:the the Storm King's defeat]], symbolically representing the final eradication of the Sithi's ancient empire.
12th Jan '15 9:42:03 AM HoursGoneBy
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* QuestionableConsent: Miriamele [[spoiler:gives in to Aspitis when he comes to her bunk]] but she is vulnerable, drunk, and possibly drugged at the time.
22nd Aug '14 7:00:32 AM Fighteer
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Moving to the correct trope.
* CryForTheDevil: The Storm King's tragic {{backstory}} becomes a crucial element at the climax.

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* CryForTheDevil: The SympathyForTheDevil: As Simon learns more about Ineluki, he keeps seeing, rather than a terrifying being of fire and hate, a figure shrouded in despair, yet desperate to preserve his people at all cost. At the end, [[spoiler:it is this vision that allows him to disrupt the Storm King's tragic {{backstory}} becomes a crucial element at the climax.power, which is fueled by hate.]]
8th Jul '14 12:42:45 PM Fighteer
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* BadassBeard: Beards are an important element of the Rimmersgard culture. Isgrimnur, a powerful (if elderly) warrior, is enormously proud of his and is aghast when told he'll have to shave it for a covert mission.

* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: Ineluki/The Storm King's tragic backstory is this.]] He went from TheWisePrince, and a compassive ruler who wanted to save his people, to a WellIntentionedExtremist, was then maddened by rejection, disgrace and a failure, and became an OmnicidalManiac. * BeneathTheEarth: The tunnels beneath the Hayholt, including the ruins of Asu'a, are an important plot element as well as a component of Simon's [[TheHerosJourney journey]]. * BerserkerTears: Simon, after [[spoiler:Amerasu's death]], leading to his HeroicBSOD. * {{BFS}}: Thorn is described as being unusually large and heavy, so that only a very strong man can wield it. The other two swords are more conventionally sized.
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* BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: [[spoiler: Ineluki/The Storm King's tragic backstory is this.]] He went Ineluki evolved from TheWisePrince, a [[TheWisePrince compassionate and a compassive ruler knowledgeable prince]] who wanted to save his people, people to a WellIntentionedExtremist, [[WellIntentionedExtremist desperate warrior seeking to stop humanity's onslaught]], was then maddened by rejection, disgrace his father's rejection of his choice of tactics, and a failure, died for his troubles. His hatred burned so strongly that he refused to pass into Unbeing and instead became an OmnicidalManiac. undead OmnicidalManiac. * BeneathTheEarth: The labyrinthine tunnels beneath the Hayholt, including the ruins of Asu'a, are an important plot element as well as a component of Simon's major story element. Simon is forced to traverse them twice during his journey, both times representing his [[TheHerosJourney journey]]. "descent into darkness""]]. Other characters visit the tunnels as well, including the Sithi ([[spoiler:and Norns]]) near the climax. * BerserkerTears: Simon, after After [[spoiler:Amerasu's death]], leading to his HeroicBSOD. Simon goes into a berserker fury, not realizing that he's crying the whole time. * {{BFS}}: Thorn is described as being unusually large and heavy, so that only a very strong man can wield it. it, yet its weight seems to vary -- at times it's too heavy for anyone to lift, while at others it seems weightless. The other two swords are more conventionally sized.
8th Jul '14 12:34:08 PM Fighteer
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* AllTrollsAreDifferent: The Qanuc, who seem to have a lot in common appearance-wise with hobbits, looking like humans in every way besides height. * AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: All of the good human kingdoms have been captured or subverted by the end of the first book.
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* AllTrollsAreDifferent: The Qanuc, who seem Qanuc are referred to have a lot in common appearance-wise as trolls, but more closely resemble mountain dwarves with hobbits, looking like humans in every way besides height.an Inuit culture. * AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs: All of the good human kingdoms have been captured or subverted by the end of the first book.book; this is part of the villains' plan to keep any possible resistance off-balance and on the run.

* AnyoneCanDie: And they do. In droves. * ApronMatron: Rachel, headmistress of the Hayholt, who has earned the nickname "The Dragon" for her strictness. Simon is her "favorite" disciplinary case.
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* AnyoneCanDie: And they do. In droves. * ApronMatron: Rachel, headmistress of the Hayholt, who has earned the nickname "The Dragon" for her strictness. Simon is her "favorite" favorite disciplinary case.
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