History Literature / LordOfTheFlies

30th Aug '17 10:54:13 PM KingClark
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* AntiIntellectualism: With the exception of Ralph and Piggy, making a strong logical argument tends to be the quickest way to lose your audience when the oldest among them is fourteen, until eventually even trying to do so is an automatic failure; when Jack completely splits from Ralph, the most damning condemnation he can think of is that Ralph is "like Piggy. He says things like Piggy" and this may indeed have been what convinces so many people to join him.

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With the exception of Ralph and Piggy, making a strong logical argument tends to be the quickest way to lose your audience when the oldest among them is fourteen, until eventually even trying to do so is an automatic failure; when Jack completely splits from Ralph, the most damning condemnation he can think of is that Ralph is "like Piggy. He says things like Piggy" and this may indeed have been what convinces so many people to join him.
30th Aug '17 7:32:29 PM ooh
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It's had [[TheFilmOfTheBook three cinematic adaptations]] (a British one in 1963, an American one in 1990, and a little-known Filipino adaptation called ''Alkitrang dugo'' in 1975 that had boys ''and'' girls) and is referenced and parodied in various media. It is very popular for [[SchoolStudyMedia English Literature assignments]] in HighSchool on both sides of the Pond and [[LandDownUnder Down Under]], thanks to its themes about morality and authority, and its symbolism, which is extremely easy to spot, but open to many different interpretations.

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It's had [[TheFilmOfTheBook three cinematic adaptations]] (a British one in 1963, an American one in 1990, and a little-known Filipino adaptation called ''Alkitrang dugo'' in 1975 that had boys ''and'' girls) and girls, and an American all-female version was announced in 2017) and is referenced and parodied in various media. It is very popular for [[SchoolStudyMedia English Literature assignments]] in HighSchool on both sides of the Pond and [[LandDownUnder Down Under]], thanks to its themes about morality and authority, and its symbolism, which is extremely easy to spot, but open to many different interpretations.
17th Jul '17 5:38:16 PM pyroclastic
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* BlowThatHorn: Ralph and Piggy sound a conch shell to gather the boys together. [[spoiler: The eventual crushing of the shell alongside Piggy symbolizes the descent into savagery of the boys]].
23rd Jun '17 4:35:41 AM NightShade96
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* SceneryDissonance: Type 1. The novel takes place on a paradise island, and is about a group of schoolchildren growing increasingly savage and inhuman after losing contact with the civilized world.
9th Jun '17 12:58:38 AM 3rdStringPG
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** Averted in the Filipino adaptation ''Alkitrang Dugo'', where the characters are male and female students (equivalent of junior high in the U.S.) who were on their way to compete in an athletic meet.
16th Apr '17 9:50:59 AM Owlorange1995
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* AdaptationalBadass: In the 1993 film, the boys are recruits from military school. Therefore, they are able to adapt to the island much better than their book counterparts.
16th Apr '17 12:26:37 AM coraline94
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** This is an interpretation that still doesn't explain his vicious desire to pursue and kill Ralph after everything that happened. If he'd felt as horrified and guilty as some readers consider, he wouldn't have so strongly wanted to finish Ralph off. His guilt for Simon's murder is not anywhere suggested in the book, and his hesitation after Roger kills Piggy might be explained as surprise at Roger briefly surpassing him in power. He immediately tries to reestablish his authority after by trying to murder Ralph and finish this personal quest by burning the entire island in order to find Ralph and end him once and for all.

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** This is an interpretation that still doesn't explain his vicious desire to pursue and kill Ralph after everything that happened. If he'd felt as horrified and guilty as some readers consider, he wouldn't have so strongly wanted to finish Ralph off. His guilt for Simon's murder is not anywhere suggested in the book, and his hesitation after Roger kills Piggy might be explained as surprise at Roger briefly surpassing him in power. He immediately tries to reestablish his authority after by trying to murder Ralph and finish this personal quest by burning the entire island in order to find Ralph and end him once and for all. So his [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]] aren't clearly yet defined.
16th Apr '17 12:25:25 AM coraline94
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** This is an interpretation that still doesn't explain his vicious desire to pursue and kill Ralph after everything that happened. If he'd felt as horrified and guilty as some readers consider, he wouldn't have so strongly wanted to finish Ralph off. His guilt for Simon's murder is not anywhere suggested in the book, and his hesitation after Roger kills Piggy might be explained as surprise at Roger briefly surpassing him in power. He immediately tries to reestablish his authority after by trying to murder Ralph and finish this personal quest by burning the entire island in order to find Ralph and end him once and for all. This doesn't exactly appear like guilt-ridden attitude.

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** This is an interpretation that still doesn't explain his vicious desire to pursue and kill Ralph after everything that happened. If he'd felt as horrified and guilty as some readers consider, he wouldn't have so strongly wanted to finish Ralph off. His guilt for Simon's murder is not anywhere suggested in the book, and his hesitation after Roger kills Piggy might be explained as surprise at Roger briefly surpassing him in power. He immediately tries to reestablish his authority after by trying to murder Ralph and finish this personal quest by burning the entire island in order to find Ralph and end him once and for all. This doesn't exactly appear like guilt-ridden attitude.
16th Apr '17 12:23:05 AM coraline94
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** This is an interpretation that still doesn't explain his vicious desire to pursue and kill Ralph after everything that happened. If he'd felt as horrified and guilty as some readers consider, he wouldn't have so strongly wanted to finish Ralph off. His guilt for Simon's murder is not anywhere suggested in the book, and his hesitation after Roger kills Piggy might be explained as surprise at Roger briefly surpassing him in power. He immediately tries to reestablish his authority after by trying to murder Ralph and finish this personal quest by burning the entire island in order to find Ralph and end him once and for all. This doesn't exactly appear like guilt-ridden attitude.
6th Jan '17 8:08:23 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The, ah, [[FreudWasRight 'spearing' of a mother pig]].
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