History Literature / LabyrinthsOfEcho

16th Jan '17 5:06:39 PM jlt314
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* HeinzHybrid: the various kinds of humans, elves, dwarves and krays (catch-all term, includes several distinctive species) among the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfRaces races]] known in Echo and their descendants seem to beget fertile offspring in almost any combination. Max gets a laugh from learning that Melifaro has simultaneously inherited dwarven and giant blood.



* UnevenHybrid: Late in the series Max learns that most of his colleagues have non-humans down their bloodlines: Juffin, like most Kettarians, has some [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werefox]] blood in him; Shurf is descended from the [[OurElvesAreBetter elves]]; Melifaro has both [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame dwarven]] ''and'' [[OurGiantsAreBigger giant]] ancestors; Melamori has a lot of elven and [[{{Invisibility}} faff]] blood. In fact, the only pure-blooded humans in Secret Investigations are Kofa and Max himself (insofar one disregards his birth in an entirely different world).

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* UnevenHybrid: Late in the series Max learns that most of his colleagues have non-humans down their bloodlines: Juffin, like most Kettarians, has some [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werefox]] blood in him; Shurf is descended from the [[OurElvesAreBetter elves]]; Melifaro has both [[HeinzHybrid both]] [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame dwarven]] ''and'' [[OurGiantsAreBigger giant]] ancestors; Melamori has a lot of elven and [[{{Invisibility}} faff]] blood. In fact, the only pure-blooded humans in Secret Investigations are Kofa and Max himself (insofar one disregards his birth in an entirely different world).
22nd Oct '16 4:32:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy by means of AlternateSelf and FlashSideways: As Murakoks share the memories across all of their instances, Max suspects JosefStalin whose pseudonim was "Koba" to be a Murakok instance of Echo's Beggars' Foreman who also goes by "Koba". Thus Koba's [[BlackComedy weird jokes]] about Echo's LSIF make Max both wary and curious about the man.

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* BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy by means of AlternateSelf and FlashSideways: As Murakoks share the memories across all of their instances, Max suspects JosefStalin UsefulNotes/JosefStalin whose pseudonim was "Koba" to be a Murakok instance of Echo's Beggars' Foreman who also goes by "Koba". Thus Koba's [[BlackComedy weird jokes]] about Echo's LSIF make Max both wary and curious about the man.
22nd May '15 1:37:10 PM Generality
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* FantasyKeepsake: when Max goes back to our world for the first time, hestarts to doubt that his adventures in Echo were real. Then, however, he tests some of his powers and realizes that if he is still a trained combat mage, he must have not been dreaming, after all.
6th May '15 3:51:11 PM Khathi
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* DeathIsCheap: There is the whole ghost thing, but it is eventually revealed [[spoiler: that the use of True Magic makes its user effectively immortal. And True Magic essentially being ''the life itself'', the question of mortality depends entirely on how full someone lives their life. For the subconscious users, [[TrueArt like all artists and especially poets]], it ensures at least a spiritual immortality, imbuing them with the immortal and indestructible soul, while the conscious and focused users rapidly progress to the [[PhysicalGod transhuman levels]] where the very concept of death becomes alien to them.]]


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** Because the fear of death is usually the strongest fear in a person, and [[FearlessFool losing all fears]] is an essential step of any aspiring wizard's progress, achieving this becomes necessary to rise above the mediocrity. Though because this "mediocrity" is [[spoiler: around the level of Loyso Pondokhva and Shurf Lonli-Lokli, [[TheArchmage the greatest Plain Magic prodigies of the time]], few magic users actually learn this.]] An another reason is that this is heavily tied into the True Magic, which is an obscure and little-used art in Echo, where the few people has the ability to use it anyway.
28th Apr '15 7:54:58 AM Khathi
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* FearlessFool: There are several characters who may seem to be this on the first glance. It is later revealed, though, that [[spoiler: losing one's fear completely is an absolutely normal and ''necessary'' step in the progress of an any self-respecting mage. That's why the Order wizards (and, generally, everyone else), are destined to never rise above mediocrity, fear being the most used tool in their education and a large part of their life. That said, a natural consequence of a person losing all fears is that person [[ForTheLulz starting having fun!]]]] Thus the ones mentioned above are usually the wizards powerful enough to afford it.
** This is especially pronounced for True Magic users, because [[spoiler: the people's strongest fear is usually fear of death, which is ridiculously easy to cheat for them,]] thus this step often comes to them naturally and easily. A lucky few (like Max) are so innately powerful that while they [[spoiler: can feel the fear on the outside, subconsciously they just ''know'' that they are ''way'' too strong to all this shit.]]



** CompleteImmortality: Elsidiayas, the intangible elves. Possibly the nameless entity at the point opposite to Heart of the World.

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** CompleteImmortality: Elsidiayas, the intangible elves. Possibly the nameless entity at the point opposite to Heart of the World. [[spoiler: Sufficiently advanced True Magic users too.]]



*** sufficiently powerful mages, especially True Magic users, effectively stop aging and are notoriously hard to kill.

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*** sufficiently Sufficiently powerful mages, especially True Magic users, effectively stop aging and are notoriously hard to kill.kill. [[spoiler: It is later revealed that all True Magis users are at least spiritually immortal, even those who do it unknowingly, while for those who practice it consiously [[CompleteImmortality the very concept of death simply loses the meaning]] at some point.]]



* ImmortalProcreationClause: while all pure-blooded elves are effectively immortal, their descendants from marriages with humans or krays are merely long-lived, yet mortal. The elves, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever grieving for their family members]], built the city of Kharumba, where their descendants may stay forever, while their respective deaths wait outside.

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* ImmortalProcreationClause: while While all pure-blooded elves are effectively immortal, their descendants from marriages with humans or krays are merely long-lived, yet mortal. The elves, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever grieving for their family members]], built the city of Kharumba, where their descendants may stay forever, while their respective deaths wait outside.
27th Apr '15 10:27:06 PM Khathi
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In late 2014, Martynchik returned to the franchise with a new series, titled ''Dreams of Echo'', currently at two volumes, telling of the Max' new adventures [[spoiler:since his return from the Quiet City]]. While the franchise always had a major emphasis in the dreams and their worlds, this series concentrated on them soecifically, each new adventure having something to do with the protagonist's and other people dreams and (sometimes) nightmares. It also significantly changes the interpersonal dynamics between many characters, reflecting their new status, maturity, or lack thereof.

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In late 2014, Martynchik returned to the franchise with a new series, titled ''Dreams of Echo'', currently at two volumes, telling of the Max' new adventures [[spoiler:since his return from the Quiet City]]. While the franchise always had a major emphasis in the dreams and their worlds, this series concentrated on them soecifically, specifically, each new adventure having something to do with the protagonist's and other people dreams and (sometimes) nightmares. It also significantly changes the interpersonal dynamics between many characters, reflecting their new status, maturity, or lack thereof.
27th Apr '15 10:26:40 PM Khathi
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In late 2014, Martynchik returned to the franchise with a new series, titled ''Dreams of Echo'', currently at two volumes, telling of the Max' new adventures [[spoiler:since his return from the Quiet City]]. While the franchise always had a major emphasis in the dreams and their worlds, this series concentrated on them soecifically, each new adventure having something to do with the protagonist's and other people dreams and (sometimes) nightmares. It also significantly changes the interpersonal dynamics between many characters, reflecting their new status, maturity, or lack thereof.


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** Sotofa tells Max in ''Master of the Winds and Sunsets'' that this is actually true for ''any'' magic user, unlike the Murakoks, though, they just tend to choose one of their lives, believing it to be their "real" one.


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** The Seven-Leaf's new Grand Magister, [[spoiler: Shurf Lonli-Lokli]], makes up for that in spades, though, being a Plain Magic prodigy almost of the Loiso Pondokhva's level. Its ''witches'' are another matter entirely as well (see Lady Sotofa).
30th Mar '15 9:37:27 PM nombretomado
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* EgyptianMythology: Max assumes some transfer of knowledge between Echo and the ancient Egypt, and suspects [[spoiler: Mokhi Ainti, Juffin's mentor]] of being an actual ancient Egyptian. Points in case:

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* EgyptianMythology: Myth/EgyptianMythology: Max assumes some transfer of knowledge between Echo and the ancient Egypt, and suspects [[spoiler: Mokhi Ainti, Juffin's mentor]] of being an actual ancient Egyptian. Points in case:
4th Sep '14 10:19:22 AM DracMonster
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* YourMagicsNoGoodHere: In ''Nests of Chimerae'', Max is TrappedInAnotherWorld and apparently DePowered by its magic functioning differently from the magic in Echo. By the end of the book, however, he picks up a few nifty tricks and returns home.
7th Jul '14 1:03:24 PM LadyNomad
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* HeroismEqualsJobQualification: General Bubuta Bokh was a great hero during their civil war and once saved the King's life. The problem: he was good on a battlefield, but as a [[DaChief chief of police]] this rustic BoisterousBruiser is comically incompetent -- all the time. The only thing he does well is roaring and [[HollywoodTourettes swearing]] at perps... or anyone in range who annoys and does not outrank him, for that matter.
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