History Literature / KnownSpace

12th Jun '16 5:43:44 PM Pavlov
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* AutoKitchen: Usually produce bricks with different layers of "meat", "vegetable", and "fiber".

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* AutoKitchen: Usually Primitive versions usually produce bricks with different layers of "meat", "vegetable", and "fiber"."fiber". Later models produce a homogeneous blend out of any available plant tissue.
3rd Jun '16 2:08:21 PM Kalaong
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* TheMilkyWayIsTheOnlyWay: Even with the Quantum II hyperdrive (which travels a light-year every 75 seconds), the Andromeda Galaxy is still centuries away.
** [[WritersCannotDoMath Which is odd]] because 1ly/75s is 420000 times the speed of light so it should take less than a decade. Yes, that's a long trip, but it's short compared to the travel times of the colony slowboats that founded the early human worlds. Possibly justified in that none of the intelligent species seems to be psychologically capable of remaining in hyperspace for long (more than perhaps a week) without periodically dropping out to reassure themselves the universe is still there,

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* TheMilkyWayIsTheOnlyWay: Even with the Quantum II hyperdrive (which travels a light-year every 75 seconds), seconds - ''420,000 times lightspeed'' - enough to get to another galaxy in a decade), the Andromeda Galaxy is still centuries away.
** [[WritersCannotDoMath Which is odd]]
away because 1ly/75s is 420000 times the speed of light so it should take less than a decade. Yes, that's a HyperspaceIsAScaryPlace - long trip, but it's short compared to the travel times of the colony slowboats that founded the early human worlds. Possibly justified in that none of the intelligent species seems to be psychologically capable of remaining in hyperspace journeys inflict psychological trauma on passengers, and the ship is instantly destroyed if it travels within several light hours of a star. Beowulf Shaeffer attempts to visit the galactic core and nearly has a stress-induced breakdown due to having to dodge stars non-stop for long (more than perhaps a week) without periodically dropping out to reassure themselves the universe is still there,hours on end.
3rd Jun '16 1:55:32 PM Kalaong
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## Most hyperdrives just need to be Neptune’s distance from a star to work - two light hours ; the Q-II needs to be ''five'' - ‘''Pluto’s!''' Even with Known Space reactionless drives, that means it takes around eight hours to go ''anywhere.''

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## Most hyperdrives just need to be Neptune’s distance from a star to work - two light hours ; the Q-II needs to be ''five'' - ‘''Pluto’s!''' '''Pluto’s!''' Even with Known Space reactionless drives, that means it takes around eight hours to go ''anywhere.''
3rd Jun '16 1:51:53 PM Kalaong
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: A recurring and invoked theme: thanks at first to easy organ transplants and then boosterspice, many stories have people over a century old - think of your grandparents embarrassing attitudes towards class, gender and race, but with young, vital bodies. Thus, many people remember a time when criminals were rehabilitated instead of being made into transplant stock, when the slightest violent tendencies weren't considered mental illness, when history books weren't edited at the drop of a hat. Some have become calculatingly immoral, saying, "TheGovernment brainwashes and kills people whenever they feel like. What does morality even mean when every cop is a mental rapist and/or a murderer?"
** A creepy example is Gil Hamilton's girlfriend, a doctor who doesn't so much treat illnesses as replace failing organs - she's careful not to talk shop with Gil, as it reminds her that her transplant stock is not so much raw materials as parts of executed criminals or even seizures from their stockpiles of murder victims, making her more a Literature/{{Frankenstein}} then a healer.
3rd Jun '16 12:13:04 PM Kalaong
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** The Quantum II hyperdrive that the Puppeteers discover is AwesomeButImpractical: it's ''musixch'' faster (about 75 seconds per light year). Unfortunately, there are ‘’loads’’ of catches;

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** The Quantum II hyperdrive that the Puppeteers discover is AwesomeButImpractical: it's ''musixch'' ''much'' faster (about - about 75 seconds per light year). years. Unfortunately, there are ‘’loads’’ ''loads'' of catches;



## There’s no intermediate setting. With most hyperdrives, a pilot can leave the helm unattended for hours at a time. If he does so in a Q-II for more than two, he’s liable to crash into a star.

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## There’s no intermediate setting. With most hyperdrives, a pilot can leave the helm unattended for hours at a most of the time. If he one does so in a Q-II for more than two, he’s liable ''two minutes'', they’re almost certain to crash into a star.star. It doesn't have an on-off switch, it has a grip that has to be kept or the drive turns off.
3rd Jun '16 12:09:53 PM Kalaong
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** The Quantum II hyperdrive that the Puppeteers discover is AwesomeButImpractical: it's ''much'' faster (about 75 seconds per light year), but there's no intermediate setting, and because it has to get out of a system's gravity well before it can safely enter hyperspace, one of the characters observes that it's capable of travelling between any two worlds in Known Space in 12 hours but nowhere in less than 8 hours. Also, the drive is ''huge'', it barely fits into the largest General Products hull, so there's no cargo room (and barely space for a pilot).

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** The Quantum II hyperdrive that the Puppeteers discover is AwesomeButImpractical: it's ''much'' ''musixch'' faster (about 75 seconds per light year), but there's year). Unfortunately, there are ‘’loads’’ of catches;
## Most hyperdrives just need to be Neptune’s distance from a star to work - two light hours ; the Q-II needs to be ''five'' - ‘''Pluto’s!''' Even with Known Space reactionless drives, that means it takes around eight hours to go ''anywhere.''
## There’s
no intermediate setting, and because it has to get out of setting. With most hyperdrives, a system's gravity well before it pilot can safely enter hyperspace, one of leave the characters observes that it's capable of travelling between any two worlds in Known Space in 12 helm unattended for hours but nowhere at a time. If he does so in less a Q-II for more than 8 hours. Also, the two, he’s liable to crash into a star.
## The
drive is ''huge'', it barely fits into the largest General Products hull, so there's no cargo room (and barely space for a pilot).
18th May '16 8:01:21 AM Morgenthaler
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KnownSpace is a [[StandardSciFiSetting future history setting]] used by author Creator/LarryNiven as a base for thirty-five of his short stories and nine novels. It is generally considered by scholars of science fiction to be one of the most internally consistent, if not always the most scientifically plausible, SF settings in the history of the genre.

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KnownSpace Known Space is a [[StandardSciFiSetting future history setting]] used by author Creator/LarryNiven as a base for thirty-five of his short stories and nine novels. It is generally considered by scholars of science fiction to be one of the most internally consistent, if not always the most scientifically plausible, SF settings in the history of the genre.
6th Apr '16 2:53:29 PM Kalaong
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* EnforcedTechnologyLevels: '''Repeatedly stated.''' The ARM(under the guidance of Protector Jack Brennan) aggressively suppressed any and all technology that could be used by humans to harm other humans, resulting in the {{Zeerust}} SchizoTech of the setting. References are made to planet-cracking superweapons, game-breaking economic theories, and even an invention "that would have forced (the ARM) to make murder legal." [[spoiler:Turns out this invention was actually a simple yet unintuitive modification to transfer booths which would allow them to act as ''[[CloningBlues people duplicators]]'' - this would prove the devices don't teleport humans but kill them and create copies at their destinations, meaning anyone who ever sent another person through a transfer booth was guilty of manslaughter at best]].

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* EnforcedTechnologyLevels: '''Repeatedly stated.''' The ARM(under the guidance of Protector Jack Brennan) aggressively suppressed any and all technology that could be used by humans to harm other humans, resulting in the {{Zeerust}} SchizoTech of the setting. References are made to planet-cracking superweapons, game-breaking economic theories, and even an invention "that would have forced (the ARM) to make murder legal." legal", none of which could be expanded on so as to protect humanity from [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow dangerous knowledge]]. [[spoiler:Turns out this invention was actually a simple yet unintuitive modification to transfer booths which would allow them to act as ''[[CloningBlues people duplicators]]'' - this would prove the devices don't teleport humans but kill them and create copies at their destinations, meaning anyone who ever sent another person through a transfer booth was guilty of manslaughter at best]].
31st Mar '16 1:39:20 PM Bense
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** It's a significant aspect of Known Space pre-hyperdrive colony planets. While the colony probes did indeed follow their programming, humans hadn't exactly gotten the programming ''quite'' right. Instead of finding Earth-like worlds, they had a tendency to find worlds where some portion was Earthlike ''somewhere''. Since the "slowboat" colony ships were one-way trips, there was nothing the colonists could do upon arrival except make the most of the situation. Also, Earth's draconian government would make a North Korean leader blush and even marginally habitable worlds are fairly rare, meaning population pressure drives humans to take whatever they can get.
*** Plateau, which has a crushing, corrosive atmosphere not unlike Venus, except for an inhabitable mountain that rose above the majority of the hellish atmosphere. A planet 95% the size of Earth with habitable area roughly the size of Southern California. When the probe found the Plateau it sent a message back to Earth saying "Come on over!"

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** It's a particularly significant aspect of Known Space with the pre-hyperdrive colony planets. While the colony probes did indeed follow their programming, humans hadn't exactly gotten the programming ''quite'' right. Instead of finding Earth-like worlds, they had a tendency to find worlds where some portion was an Earthlike ''somewhere''. ''point'' on the worlds they were sent to, even if the rest of the planet was not at all Earthlike. Since the "slowboat" colony ships that followed the probes were one-way trips, there was nothing the colonists could do upon arrival except make the most of the situation. Also, situation.
** Even after the hypderdrive became available,
Earth's draconian government would make a North Korean leader blush and even marginally habitable worlds are fairly rare, meaning population pressure drives humans to take whatever they can get.
*** Plateau, which has a crushing, corrosive atmosphere not unlike Venus, except for an inhabitable one 40-mile high mountain that rose rises above the majority of the hellish atmosphere.atmosphere, making the plateau at the top habitable. A planet 95% the size of Earth with habitable area roughly the size of Southern California. When the probe found the Plateau it sent a message back to Earth saying "Come on over!"



*** A particularly notable one was once named "Warhead" -- a Mars-like rock used by the Kzin as a military outpost during the Third Man-Kzin War. Humans used a not-quite-Death Star-level disintegrator beam to wipe out the bases -- which were in a line on the equator -- in the process digging a ''twelve mile deep trench the length and breadth of the Baja peninsula'', ending the Third Man-Kzin War, nicknaming the beam the "Wunderland Treatymaker", and renaming the planet "Canyon", as it turns out a Mars-like world's atmosphere is an Earth-like atmosphere if it all falls into a Baja-sized canyon. Oh, and there was enough water vapor in the atmosphere to create a fairly deep ocean at the bottom, so the cities had to be built into the cliff-faces.

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*** A particularly notable one was once named "Warhead" -- a Mars-like rock used by the Kzin as a military outpost during the Third Man-Kzin War. Humans used a not-quite-Death Star-level disintegrator beam to wipe out the bases -- which were in a line on the equator -- in the process digging a ''twelve mile deep trench the length and breadth of the Baja peninsula'', ending peninsula''. The attack ended the Third Man-Kzin War, nicknaming the beam the "Wunderland Treatymaker", and renaming the Treatymaker". The planet was renamed "Canyon", as it turns out a Mars-like world's atmosphere is an Earth-like atmosphere if it all falls into a Baja-sized canyon. Oh, and there was enough water vapor in the atmosphere to create a fairly deep ocean at the bottom, so the cities had to be built into the cliff-faces.
31st Mar '16 1:24:49 PM Bense
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: Keller in ''A Gift From Earth'' doesn't care much about the Sons of Earth and their crusade to topple the government. He just wants to save Polly.
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