History Literature / HorusHeresy

26th Sep '17 12:00:31 AM PaulA
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* WholePlotReference: ''Deathfire'' is pretty clearly based on ''Literature/{{Odyssey}}''.

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* WholePlotReference: ''Deathfire'' is pretty clearly based on ''Literature/{{Odyssey}}''.''Literature/TheOdyssey''.
23rd Sep '17 2:10:16 AM bluntblade
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* DeadWorld: There are a great many in this Galaxy.
22nd Sep '17 3:45:56 PM Calandir
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** [=McNeil=] does one against himself. A third of the way through ''The Outcast Dead'' we see [[spoiler: The Emperor receive the ill-fated psychic warning from Magnus, which leads to the Space Wolves going to Prospero for some smashy-smashy.]] The book says this takes place ''after'' the events of ''Galaxy in Flames'' and that Terra is already aware of Horus' treachery. However, both ''False Gods'' and ''A Thousand Sons'' (both written by [=McNeil=]!) explicitly say this happened ''before'' the [[spoiler: Istvaan III massacre]].

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** [=McNeil=] does one against himself. A third of the way through ''The Outcast Dead'' we see [[spoiler: The Emperor receive the ill-fated psychic warning from Magnus, which leads to the Space Wolves going to Prospero for some smashy-smashy.]] The book says this takes place ''after'' the events of ''Galaxy in Flames'' and that Terra is already aware of Horus' treachery. However, both ''False Gods'' and ''A Thousand Sons'' (both written by [=McNeil=]!) explicitly say this happened ''before'' the [[spoiler: Istvaan III massacre]]. It later got retconned, rather clumsily, as Magnus delivering his warning (and damaging the webway) to the Emperor within the pre-heresy timeframe but the psychic backlash of the events being contained and finally bursting open two years later, roughly at the same time as the Istvaan Massacre.
15th Sep '17 11:54:54 PM bluntblade
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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: The Imperial forces aren't happy to see the Space Wolves in ''Prospero Burns''. It's so bad, Russ is actually starting a complete change in operational policy... [[FridgeBrilliance which in turn leads to "nice and friendly" image of Wolves we know from 40K]].

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: The Imperial forces aren't happy to see the Space Wolves in ''Prospero Burns''. It's so bad, Russ is actually starting a complete change in operational policy... [[FridgeBrilliance which in turn leads to the "nice and friendly" image of Wolves we know from 40K]].40K]].
** The World Eaters' rep is far worse, however, as they're liable to start killing their own allies before the battle is even won. If the Army hears the XII are on their way they start begging for someone else to come and help them.



** Yet both of the above pale in comparison to the unfathomably ancient and bizarre Webway.



** It's also present among their sons, here an there. In some Legions, Terran Astartes are isolated.



** Luna Wolves sergeant amputates his own mangled hand only a few scenes into the series.



** Jaghatai Khan inflicts this on [[spoiler: a Greater Daemon]] at the climax of ''Path of Heaven'',



** In Prospero Burns, the Space Wolves drop a graving dock onto a planet, making a continent sized crater. Also, they later use plasma energy, las bombardments, kinetic munitions, gravity bombs, targeted missiles, magma bombs, and atomic bombs on Prospero. It is hinted at that the bombardment created ''new fault lines''!

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** In Prospero Burns, ',Prospero Burns'', the Space Wolves drop a graving dock onto a planet, making a continent sized crater. Also, they later use plasma energy, las bombardments, kinetic munitions, gravity bombs, targeted missiles, magma bombs, and atomic bombs on Prospero. It is hinted at that the bombardment created ''new fault lines''!lines''!
** ''Galaxy in Flames'' has Horus virus-bomb a world, killing its entire population and ecology. Then he burns it.



** Horus wears a massive fur cloak over his armour.



* BattleCry: The Space Wolves makes snarls, roars, and "leopard-growls".

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* BattleCry: Pretty much every Legion's got one. The Space Wolves makes make snarls, roars, and "leopard-growls"."leopard-growls" as wel as "Hjolda Fenris!".



** Lorgar's is nothing to sniff at, either. Bonus points because he really does speak softly.



* DropTheHammer: A few Marines forgo the usual power sword for hammers and maces of various description. Lorgar's and Vulkan's preferred weapon, too.

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* DropTheHammer: A few Marines forgo the usual power sword for hammers and maces of various description. Lorgar's Ferrus' and Vulkan's preferred weapon, too.
28th Jul '17 10:30:15 AM bluntblade
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** Played straight when Horus gets hit in the arm by an Interex and pulls it out casually.

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** Played straight when Horus gets hit in the arm by an Interex and pulls it out casually. Justified as he's a Primarch, and absurdly hard to harm.



** In ''A Thousand Sons'', [[spoiler: Prospero is utterly destroyed by the Space Wolves.]]
** ''Daemonology'' has the Death Guard methodically kill a world and everything on it.



** In a flashback, Curze kills a man in the act.



* BFS: even considering that any given Astartes' or Primarch's sword is this to an ordinary human, Rogal Dorn and Leman Russ' favoured weapons are colossal.



* CarryABigStick: Horus wields a colossal mace named Worldbreaker.



* ChickenWalkers: The smaller Titan classes count as this.



* CombatByChampion: Used to settle inter-Legion disputes ''in extremis'' during the Crusade. Sigismund and Alajos converse during one such disagreement, anticipating that they will be designated champions for their respective Legions.

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* CombatByChampion: Used to settle inter-Legion disputes ''in extremis'' during the Crusade. Crusade and after the Heresy. Sigismund and Alajos converse during one such disagreement, anticipating that they will be designated champions for their respective Legions.Legions.
** Also happens on one occasion when the White Scars unexpectedly share a battlefield with the Imperial Fists.
23rd Jul '17 8:41:50 AM bluntblade
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** The Blood Angels and White Scars practice arts, albeit less ostentasiously than the Emperor's Children.
23rd Jul '17 8:27:55 AM bluntblade
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* BaldOfAwesome: Several characters sport this, including Nathaniel Garro. Lorgar and Horus count as this until they turn traitor, at which point they become:
* BaldOfEvil: The aforementioned, plus Mortarion, Kor Phaeron and Erebus.



** Played utterly, [[spoiler: terminally]] straight with Serena D'Angelus in ''Fulgrim''.



* CombatByChampion: Used to settle inter-Legion disputes ''in extremis'' during the Crusade. Sigismund and Alajos converse during one such disagreement, anticipating that they will be designated champions for their respective Legions.



** Argel Tal uses the language of daemons in ''Betrayer'', forcing an Ultramarine to drop his weapon.



** In ''Path of Heaven'', [[spoiler: Cario accepts his death at Shiban's hands to prevent himself from being possessed by a daemon]].



** The Night Lords often wear the results of their flaying work.



* GoodScarsEvilScars: Zigzagged. Some villains receive sinister and grotesque scars, but then so do some heroes. Khârn averts the villainous scars, still having "his own face."



* GreenEyedMonster: Horus, and of course, [[spoiler:Slaaneshi Daemons and Fulgrim.]] Those primarchs can be jealous of each other and their father.

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* GreenEyedMonster: Horus, Perturabo, Mortarion and of course, [[spoiler:Slaaneshi Daemons and Fulgrim.]] Those primarchs can be jealous of each other and their father.



** In the Webway during ''Master of Mankind'', Jaya hears the voices of people she used to know.



** In ''Betrayer'' the World Eaters Librarians combine themselves for form a gestalt consciousness.

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** In ''Betrayer'' the World Eaters Librarians combine themselves for to form a gestalt consciousness.consciousness.
* HollywoodTactics: Averted with most battles and most Legions, as they use their extensive arsenals to the full. Justified when Space Marines charge into melee range against mortal soldiers, as they are crushingly superior to them.
** The World Eaters play it straight, but it is shown to be a problem as they suffer heavy losses, and results from their implants interfering with planning and discipline.
** Averted in most void battles, with ships fighting thousands of kilometres apart, although in orbital battles things can get much more "in your face."
21st Jul '17 4:34:59 PM Steam_Lord
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21st Jul '17 10:50:19 AM bluntblade
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** The White Scars have pastimes such as poetry, and consider them integral to a true warrior's life.
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** In ''Betrayer'' the World Eaters Librarians combine themselves for form a gestalt consciousness.



** Playing it straight, the Emperor's actions were pursuing the only way to ensure humanity's survival.



** Istvaan III Massacre is supposed to purge the loyalist elements of Traitor Legions. Instead, it gives the loyalists the incentive to escape and warn the Imperium what's happening.

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** Istvaan III Massacre is supposed to purge the loyalist elements of Traitor Legions. Instead, it gives the a few loyalists the incentive to escape and warn the Imperium what's happening.



* NoHeroToHisValet: Averted- Every heroic figure is held in high esteem by all, except for the main characters. This is exemplified when [[spoiler:a Legion's Space Marines generally have such a lofty opinion of their Primarchs that it borders (and crosses into) fanaticism.]]

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* NoHeroToHisValet: Averted- Every almost every heroic figure is held in high esteem by all, except for the main characters. This is exemplified when [[spoiler:a Legion's Space Marines generally have such a lofty opinion of their Primarchs that it borders (and crosses into) fanaticism.]]]]
** However, in some cases it is played straight. Angron treats his own bodyguards with scorn, as they're unable to keep up with him on the battlefield.
** Perturabo is worse.
9th Jul '17 6:53:50 PM Flameal15k
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