History Literature / HorusHeresy

25th Apr '17 10:54:07 AM Steam_Lord
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* StealthHiBye: Malcador does that to Garro when the latter goes AWOL to do some investigating, and going by Space Marine's thoughts, this isn't the first time. Garro's theory on this is that Malcador never actually leaves the Palace, but contacts people telepahically and manifests an image of himself ifor the purpose of a talk.

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* StealthHiBye: Malcador does that to Garro when the latter goes AWOL to do some investigating, and going by Space Marine's thoughts, this isn't the first time. Garro's theory on this is that Malcador never actually leaves the Palace, but contacts people telepahically and manifests an image of himself ifor for the purpose of a talk.
16th Apr '17 3:13:18 PM nombretomado
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* BlindIdiotTranslation: Believe it or not the SpaceWolves fall under this. Their legion name is an overly literal translation of their true name: the ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Vlka Fenryka]]'', [[NamestoRunAwayFromReallyFast the "Wolves of Fenris", or as they prefer to call themselves "the Rout"]]. This seems to be a common problem with translating Fenrisian into Imperial Gothic.

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* BlindIdiotTranslation: Believe it or not the SpaceWolves [[Literature/SpaceWolf Space Wolves]] fall under this. Their legion name is an overly literal translation of their true name: the ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Vlka Fenryka]]'', [[NamestoRunAwayFromReallyFast the "Wolves of Fenris", or as they prefer to call themselves "the Rout"]]. This seems to be a common problem with translating Fenrisian into Imperial Gothic.



* CulturedWarrior: The Emperor's Children take this to the point of arrogance. The Thousand Sons as well--preserving libraries and knowledge (particularly of sorcery, but all subjects are considered important) is a primary goal to the point it brings them into conflict with the SpaceWolves, and individual members have hobbies like philosophy and winemaking. Horus and his Mournival also fit the bill pre-corruption.

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* CulturedWarrior: The Emperor's Children take this to the point of arrogance. The Thousand Sons as well--preserving libraries and knowledge (particularly of sorcery, but all subjects are considered important) is a primary goal to the point it brings them into conflict with the SpaceWolves, [[Literature/SpaceWolf Space Wolves]], and individual members have hobbies like philosophy and winemaking. Horus and his Mournival also fit the bill pre-corruption.
4th Apr '17 6:56:31 AM SorPepita
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** Present among the Primarchs. When Horus was appointed Warmaster, he believed that only Sangiunius, Rogal Dorn, Fulgrim, Mortarion, and Lorgar genuinely supported the decision, with the other doing so reluctantly. Petronella Vivar is shocked when Horus tells her this, but he responds that they may be family, but they're still siblings, [[TruthInTelevision and all siblings try to outdo the other to impress their parents.]]

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** Present among the Primarchs. When Horus was appointed Warmaster, he believed that only Sangiunius, Sanguinius, Rogal Dorn, Fulgrim, Mortarion, and Lorgar genuinely supported the decision, with the other doing so reluctantly. Petronella Vivar is shocked when Horus tells her this, but he responds that they may be family, but they're still siblings, [[TruthInTelevision and all siblings try to outdo the other to impress their parents.]]
4th Apr '17 6:55:12 AM SorPepita
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** The Lion and the Wolf have a particularly violent spat over engagement procedure. Dorn and Perturabo have a...disagreement about the defensibility of the Imperial Palace (oh irony). Roboute Guillman, Paragon of the Standard Procedure, outright denounced Alpharious, Master of the Unorthodox and Decentralised leadership.

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** The Lion and the Wolf have a particularly violent spat over engagement procedure. Dorn and Perturabo have a... disagreement about the defensibility of the Imperial Palace (oh irony). Roboute Guillman, Paragon of the Standard Procedure, outright denounced Alpharious, Master of the Unorthodox and Decentralised leadership.
4th Apr '17 6:54:32 AM SorPepita
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* SanitySlippageSong: Fulgrim's Legion has one, capping off their descent into madness, by attending one in the form of the "opera" Maraviglia, which was literally designed from the ground up to cause sensory overload in the most painful manner possible. It causes the audience, comprised of most of the Legion and many of their human attendants and already deep in Slaanesh's pocket, to go into an orgy of violence and sex. It's ends when the event inadvertently ''summons daemons'' who join in. The Emperor's Children pick up the instruments invented just for the piece from the stage, unmodified, and uses them as destructive weapons.

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* SanitySlippageSong: Fulgrim's Legion has one, capping off their descent into madness, by attending one in the form of the "opera" Maraviglia, which was literally designed from the ground up to cause sensory overload in the most painful manner possible. It causes the audience, comprised of most of the Legion and many of their human attendants and already deep in Slaanesh's pocket, to go into an orgy of violence and sex. It's It ends when the event inadvertently ''summons daemons'' who join in. The Emperor's Children pick up the instruments invented just for the piece from the stage, unmodified, and uses use them as destructive weapons.
4th Apr '17 6:52:55 AM SorPepita
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** Lorgar created one, the Gal Vorbak, fairly late, roughly 50 years before the start of the Heresy. They were formed from the surviving Astartes "expidition force" that returned from their excursion into the Eye of Terror, and came back...[[DemonicPossession changed]].

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** Lorgar created one, the Gal Vorbak, fairly late, roughly 50 years before the start of the Heresy. They were formed from the surviving Astartes "expidition force" that returned from their excursion into the Eye of Terror, and came back... [[DemonicPossession changed]].
4th Apr '17 6:51:07 AM SorPepita
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* FakeOutOpening: The first line of the first book is, ''I was there, the day Horus slew the Emperor.''. Wrong Emperor, it turns out.

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* FakeOutOpening: The first line of the first book is, ''I was there, the day Horus slew the Emperor.''. '' Wrong Emperor, it turns out.
4th Apr '17 6:48:27 AM SorPepita
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* CosmicHorrorStory: Well into the Heresy, some people within the Loyalist factions begin to suspect that Horus is being manipulated by something, and a much bigger story than the galaxy at civil war is playing out behind the scenes. ''The Damnation of Pythos'' is a particularly apt example of this, down to the strange semi-human cultists, reality warping horror, and sealed-away, world-ending, insantiy-causing, unknowable beings from beyond the veil.

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* CosmicHorrorStory: Well into the Heresy, some people within the Loyalist factions begin to suspect that Horus is being manipulated by something, and a much bigger story than the galaxy at civil war is playing out behind the scenes. ''The Damnation of Pythos'' is a particularly apt example of this, down to the strange semi-human cultists, reality warping horror, and sealed-away, world-ending, insantiy-causing, insanity-causing, unknowable beings from beyond the veil.
4th Apr '17 6:48:21 AM SorPepita
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** Fulgrim has a taste for these. He originally wielded Fireblade, a sword made by Ferrus Manus. He later used the Silver Blade of the Laer, which he took as a trophy, but that [[ForgoneConclusion ended poorly]], and in the end wend to Lucius. And during the Heresy itself, he used the Athame, which was a gift from Horus. At one point, he briefly owned ''all three'' of those swords at one time.

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** Fulgrim has a taste for these. He originally wielded Fireblade, a sword made by Ferrus Manus. He later used the Silver Blade of the Laer, which he took as a trophy, but that [[ForgoneConclusion [[ForegoneConclusion ended poorly]], and in the end wend to Lucius. And during the Heresy itself, he used the Athame, which was a gift from Horus. At one point, he briefly owned ''all three'' of those swords at one time.
4th Apr '17 6:47:27 AM SorPepita
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** [=McNeil=] does one against himself. A third of the way through ''The Outcast Dead'' we see [[spoiler: The Emperor receive the ill-fated psychic warning from Magnus, which leads to the Space Wolves going to Prospero for some smashy-smashy.]] The book says this takes place ''after'' the events of ''Galaxy in Flames'' and that Terra is already aware of Horus' treachery. However, both ''False Gods'' and ''A Thousand Sons'' (both written by McNeil!) explicitly say this happened ''before'' the [[spoiler: Istvaan III massacre]].

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** [=McNeil=] does one against himself. A third of the way through ''The Outcast Dead'' we see [[spoiler: The Emperor receive the ill-fated psychic warning from Magnus, which leads to the Space Wolves going to Prospero for some smashy-smashy.]] The book says this takes place ''after'' the events of ''Galaxy in Flames'' and that Terra is already aware of Horus' treachery. However, both ''False Gods'' and ''A Thousand Sons'' (both written by McNeil!) [=McNeil=]!) explicitly say this happened ''before'' the [[spoiler: Istvaan III massacre]].
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